Re: [Emc-users] looking to add inputs on Pico setup

[Chris Albertson]

I' slowly working on a USB pendant.  All the data both directions will go
over a virtual serial port and USB.   I'm pretty sure you can buy a serial
interface pendant, in fact that is how most of them work

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 7:26 AM Ed  wrote:

> Is there an easy way to add encoder inputs on a 4 axis Pico Systems
> setup? Hopefully without giving up I/O.
>
> Specifically adding a hand wheel and to select feed rate and spindle speed.
>
>
> Thanks, Ed.
>
>
>
>
> ___
> Emc-users mailing list
> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
>


-- 

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] looking to add inputs on Pico setup

[John Dammeyer]

I used a USB pendant.   Works with both MACH3 automatically and with LinuxCNC 
using the 

[XHC_HB04_CONFIG]
# specify layout = n for LIB:xhc-hb04-layout{n}.cfg files
layout = 2
# coords: specify upto 4 letters from set {x y z a b c u v w}
# coords: switch labels are xyza but any unique 4 letters
# from the set {xyxabcuvw) can be used (if the coord exists)
coords = x y z a
# lowpass settings:
# coef: slows rate of change of output,  range: 0 < coef < 1
coefs = 1 1 1 1
# scale plus or minus, rotaries may require larger scale factor:
scales = 1 1 1 1
# jogmode normal(default) or vnormal or plus-minus
jogmode = normal
# sequence 1: 0.001,0.010,0.100,1.000 (mm-based machine)
# sequence 2: 0.001,0.005,0.010,0.020 (inch-based machine)
# sequence 3: 0.001,0.010,0.100
# sequence 4: 0.001,0.005,0.010,0.020,0.050,0.100
# sequence 5: 0.001,0.010,0.050,0.100,1.000
sequence = 2
# require_pendant = no: create xhc-hb04 hal pins when pendant not connecte
#   at startup
require_pendant = yes
# inch_or_mm = in | mm
inch_or_mm = in
# mpg_accels: provision for reduced acceleration for manual mode jogging
mpg_accels = 2.5 2.5 2.5 12


> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: February-24-20 11:31 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] looking to add inputs on Pico setup
> 
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 15:26, Ed  wrote:
> 
> > Is there an easy way to add encoder inputs on a 4 axis Pico Systems
> > setup? Hopefully without giving up I/O.
> 
> 
> Maybe one of the USB pendants? Or possibly an Arduino (
> https://emergent.unpythonic.net/01198594294 )
> 
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> � George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> 
> ___
> Emc-users mailing list
> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users



___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Question for people using new qtpyvcp gui and touch screens

[Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users]

I have an 800x600 panel mount monitor with resistive touch screen. It's ELO 
brand, has drivers for Windows and Linux. Plan is to one of these days have it 
on my mill.


On Monday, February 24, 2020, 7:32:56 AM MST, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:  
 
 On Monday 24 February 2020 08:00:36 andy pugh wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 07:39, andrew beck  
wrote:
> > Problem is they are not the current popular screen resolution which
> > everyone is using.
>
> What resolution are they?

640x480 for the video of ones I've bought on ebay, ex p.o.s. stuff, vga 
speeds so only one gets used here on my trs80 color computer which is up 
converted from 225x200 sorta ntsc. Pos stuff usually has a very low 
touch resolution too, often 8x8 in boxes. If some higher res stuff ever 
shows up at reasonable prices... The video is generally written to 
position the item description to the touch box, so the touch box is 
fairly large.  And no good reason to make it any higher touch 
resolution. It might be ok for something that works like gmocapy, but 
I've been so interested that I've not looked at any touch screen 
receivers we might have.  What I've seen here is all 9600 baud seriel 
stuff.  
___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] looking to add inputs on Pico setup

[andy pugh]

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 15:26, Ed  wrote:

> Is there an easy way to add encoder inputs on a 4 axis Pico Systems
> setup? Hopefully without giving up I/O.


Maybe one of the USB pendants? Or possibly an Arduino (
https://emergent.unpythonic.net/01198594294 )

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] back to my out of whack encoder

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 24 February 2020 10:24:57 dave engvall wrote:

> It is unusual for epoxy not to stick. Pocket eh? Take a Q-tip with
> either lye or muriatic acid and etch. Then wash with water, then
> degrease with iso-propanol, trichoroethylene, perchlor (dry cleaning
> solvent),  etc. This assumes the pocket is aluminum which is
> amphoteric. ... reactive with either acid or base.  If it is steel
> then think I'd polish with a dremel. At room temp JB-weld will cure
> out well in 24 hrs. Every 10 C down halves the reaction rate. If you
> can position quickly the 5 min Devcon or equivalent (clear) should

Thats my problem, it will take time to apply the jbweld, then get it 
mounted and some 0-80 screws adjusted to get good quadrature.  I've 
shaved the end of the pocket down to a fast 1/16 thick, and was fighting 
to get a 1 or 1.5mm er16 collect to hold the drill to bore the pilot 
holes for the tap, dropped the drill, saw it roll into one of the bed 
slots, and it just vanished, can't be found. So I've got to find another 
drill of a similar size, and see if I can get it to run true in a collet 
that small.  I have no chucks that will hold a drill that small.

So, based on a msg from TomP I found the rt-kernel in the tgz had a bogus 
as a $3 bill sha512sum. So I've been most of the day fixing that, so be 
sure and get the new kernel-rt.tgz from my site again. And re-read the 
README for the ugly news at the bottom.
 
> work. If you can clamp it in  position after adjusting quadrature then
> raising the temp will do good things. I routinely cure at approx 150
> F. NOTE: have  no idea what the max storage temp is on the device. ;-)
>
> I've  used JB-weld to mount blocks for a scope. ... need to remove
> them  heat to 250 F and then apply chisel or screwdriver. Even
> then it can take a decent hit to break them loose.
>
> BTW - I've had pretty good luck with lacquer thinner as a degreaser. 
> Brownells recommends gasoline as a degreaser for their bluing kits.
>
> Hope this helps. Hang in there.  as always YMMV.
>
> Advice is always worth about what you pay for it. ;-)
>
> Dave
>
> On 2/23/20 5:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > Gene,
> >   I have seen this advertised several times but have never tried it.
> > I saw the same type of stuff used on my son's knocked out tooth. The
> > dentist glued it to the adjoining teeth. It lasted in that
> > environment for over a year.
> >
> > https://justdiy.com/bondic-review/
> > This is not exactly the same thing but it is close.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 6:07 PM Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> >> Greetings all;
> >>
> >> This is turning into a PITA.
> >>
> >> After a weeks cure time I went to remove the blown ATS-667 from
> >> that pocket in my bracket, using a 1/4" wood chisel and a very
> >> small bit of alu for a hammer, it came loose so easy I could have
> >> just lifted the leads by hand.  This was with the pocket scratched
> >> up with my pocket knife and washed down with brake cleaner before
> >> applying the jbfastweld.
> >>
> >> Anybody got a foolproof method of making it stick?
> >>
> >> Anodize it maybe.
> >>
> >> Quick recipe for that?
> >>
> >> Then use the slow jbweld to give me time to adjust some 0-80 screws
> >> to push it around till the quadrature is good. Then ignore it for a
> >> week to cure...
> >>
> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >> --
> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> >> respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
> >> Genes Web page 
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Emc-users mailing list
> >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
> >
> > ___
> > Emc-users mailing list
> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
>
> ___
> Emc-users mailing list
> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] back to my out of whack encoder

[dave engvall]

It is unusual for epoxy not to stick. Pocket eh? Take a Q-tip with 
either lye or muriatic acid and etch. Then wash with water, then 
degrease with iso-propanol, trichoroethylene, perchlor (dry cleaning 
solvent),  etc. This assumes the pocket is aluminum which is amphoteric. 
... reactive with either acid or base.  If it is steel then think I'd 
polish with a dremel. At room temp JB-weld will cure out well in 24 hrs. 
Every 10 C down halves the reaction rate. If you can position quickly 
the 5 min Devcon or equivalent (clear) should work. If you can clamp it 
in  position after adjusting quadrature then raising the temp will do 
good things. I routinely cure at approx 150 F. NOTE: have  no idea what 
the max storage temp is on the device. ;-)


I've  used JB-weld to mount blocks for a scope. ... need to remove them 
 heat to 250 F and then apply chisel or screwdriver. Even then it 
can take a decent hit to break them loose.


BTW - I've had pretty good luck with lacquer thinner as a degreaser.  
Brownells recommends gasoline as a degreaser for their bluing kits.


Hope this helps. Hang in there.  as always YMMV.

Advice is always worth about what you pay for it. ;-)

Dave

On 2/23/20 5:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:

Gene,
  I have seen this advertised several times but have never tried it. I saw
the same type of stuff used on my son's knocked out tooth. The dentist
glued it to the adjoining teeth. It lasted in that environment for over a
year.

https://justdiy.com/bondic-review/
This is not exactly the same thing but it is close.

Stuart

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 6:07 PM Gene Heskett  wrote:


Greetings all;

This is turning into a PITA.

After a weeks cure time I went to remove the blown ATS-667 from that
pocket in my bracket, using a 1/4" wood chisel and a very small bit of
alu for a hammer, it came loose so easy I could have just lifted the
leads by hand.  This was with the pocket scratched up with my pocket
knife and washed down with brake cleaner before applying the jbfastweld.

Anybody got a foolproof method of making it stick?

Anodize it maybe.

Quick recipe for that?

Then use the slow jbweld to give me time to adjust some 0-80 screws to
push it around till the quadrature is good. Then ignore it for a week to
cure...

Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users



___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Question for people using new qtpyvcp gui and touch screens

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 24 February 2020 08:00:36 andy pugh wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 07:39, andrew beck  
wrote:
> > Problem is they are not the current popular screen resolution which
> > everyone is using.
>
> What resolution are they?

640x480 for the video of ones I've bought on ebay, ex p.o.s. stuff, vga 
speeds so only one gets used here on my trs80 color computer which is up 
converted from 225x200 sorta ntsc. Pos stuff usually has a very low 
touch resolution too, often 8x8 in boxes. If some higher res stuff ever 
shows up at reasonable prices... The video is generally written to 
position the item description to the touch box, so the touch box is 
fairly large.  And no good reason to make it any higher touch 
resolution. It might be ok for something that works like gmocapy, but 
I've been so interested that I've not looked at any touch screen 
receivers we might have.  What I've seen here is all 9600 baud seriel 
stuff.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Question for people using new qtpyvcp gui and touch screens

[Stuart Stevenson]

What resolution do you need for an industrial touchscreen?

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 7:07 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 07:39, andrew beck 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Problem is they are not the current popular screen resolution which
> > everyone is using.
>
>
> What resolution are they?
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>
> ___
> Emc-users mailing list
> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
>

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Head

[andy pugh]

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 21:38, Jeff Johnson  wrote:

> Ok.Thanks guys I see there are simpler ways to go now.


There is something to be said for using tools that are familiar.
is the table already motorised? Does is have an existing drive? What
control signals does that drive expect?

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Question for people using new qtpyvcp gui and touch screens

[andy pugh]

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 07:39, andrew beck  wrote:

>
> Problem is they are not the current popular screen resolution which
> everyone is using.


What resolution are they?

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users