Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
Sears Roebuck Company was a GREAT retailer at one time. But since I remember they have always been a little high priced. When they were a real catalog retailer you could purchase almost anything in life from them (in the 1920's or so I think they sold house kits). Still their small tool, power tool, and specialty clothing (work clothes) catalogs are pretty reasonable. I don't think they even do a 'big' catalog anymore. The internet has pretty much put mail order out of business and Sears didn't adapt very well. Their old major competition Montgomery Wards is now defunct I think. I took a tour of Chicago and went up the Chicago river. It was interesting to see the loading docks where Sears and Wards both took in lots of paper, and sent out catalogs and goods on barges to the US Post Office (that also had a water level dock built into their building). Sears and Wards both really helped develop rural America in the 1st 2/3 of the 20th century. And neither ever MADE anything to speak of. They were just the power house retailers (think Wal-Mart) of the era. Enough retail history (or pseudo history) ... - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
Yes it is old... Trick! Just plain advertising WITHOUT any SIGN of technical merit. And how do you connect EMC to it? (you spam-bot posted this to emc-users mailing list YOU HEAR RIGHT, EMC U-S-E-R-S ) Plus, the Sears have no establishment in my country and in hundred others too, while EMC is open-source and is freely available in ~230 countries! Analysis shows that your speech is purely generated, no relation between separate sentences. Oh, yes, I will never buy Sears, because they advertise something they do not even manufacture, or even have in stock! (according to this ad.) On 1/1/07, Dean Hedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it had to happen sometime.. I was watching the Barret Jackson auction tonight an an interesting Sears commercial appeared. Seems Sears in now selling a CNC wood router, the Compucarve. http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yesvertical=TOOLcat=Bench+Power+Toolssubcat=Jointers%2C+Planers+%26+Shaperspid=00921754000sid=IOx20060405x099 It's a rebranding of the Carvewright by LHS Technologies You can read about it here: http://www.carvewright.com/ http://www.carvewright.com/downloads/manual.pdf Not a bad deal for $1800. The only problem is they (both Sears and LHS) are out of stock on the unit. I guess the initial production run was not big enough. The carvewright site FAQ mentions that the software does not yet import g-code or any other 3d format, but may in the future. Sorry if this is old news. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
I am sorry, but this can not be discerned from automatic spam generator. As for non-availability, TESCO for example advertises products they do not have on general sale, they have, but 2-3 PIECES for 5-milion inhabitants! Now imagine their offer of some cheaper high-quality electronics, like a translator - my father wanted to buy one. They did not have it. So he asked my brother who worked at TESCO at that time where is the problem, they actually had bought only 2 pieces for Slovak national market for all their stores. And more cool products for cool price that were printed in their own advertising newspaper were also unavailable because of that. All they wanted was that: you had to come, and while you are at it, buy just anything. It works, people are stupid. Did you know that last time they did this at IBM (advertising a product for sale they yet did not even start manufacturing) - a huge investigation was started and lasted decades... Or some time ago, some Yugoslavian US inhabitants offered a good compiler for PIC microcontroller, they claimed it is ready and that it supports all PIC models, etc. The truth was, it did not support PICmicro at all at that time! All they wanted was to get 500 orders on that expensive software. And if you want to know... I work in sales business now. On 1/1/07, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mario wrote: Yes it is old... Trick! Just plain advertising WITHOUT any SIGN of technical merit. And how do you connect EMC to it? (you spam-bot posted this to emc-users mailing list YOU HEAR RIGHT, EMC U-S-E-R-S ) Plus, the Sears have no establishment in my country and in hundred others too, while EMC is open-source and is freely available in ~230 countries! Analysis shows that your speech is purely generated, no relation between separate sentences. you're kidding, right? you actually believe that someone forwarding a note, as an item of interest, about a commercial CNC machine from a major consumer-grade retailer, is spam? Oh, yes, I will never buy Sears, because they advertise something they do not even manufacture, or even have in stock! (according to this ad.) the fact that it's out of stock sort of proves that it might not be spam, right? hint: it wasnt an advertisement. it was a link to a page in their catalog, provided by someone with an interest in EMC and CNC. and the poster even included extra info, about who really manufactures the unit. how does this news relate to EMC? it means that CNC machines are becoming more affordable, and more mainstream, all the time -- pretty soon even Tesco might sell them. :-) and that means the need for a program like EMC will continue to grow. paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 37.4 degrees) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
Mario. wrote: Oh, yes, I will never buy Sears, because they advertise something they do not even manufacture, Sears doesn't manufacture ANYTHING in their entire store. At one time, they may have made some of the Craftsman brand of small hand tools themselves. Now, they are just a department store that sells the products of other outfits. Some carry their store brand label. Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
So, Sears is a some kind of hobby-TESCO? So, similar practices can be awaited... either lie as much as you can, or perish. And, sorry again to all for overreacting to advertising, had to deal with lots of dumb, stupid, and idiotic customers for the past year - most of them wanting to buy goods for less than I can even buy them for - - because they are fed the lies in advertising every day. Oh, did I mention that they get mad at me when I don't have it? I live in a small town and that 8-13% margin hardly brings any profit to live. I always wanted a regular job in a research lab, but guess what? They either don't pay much or they require you to be very, very old. (virtually, you have to prove hundred years expertise or so ;-) ) One experience for all: Customer buying a computer says: Is there that program? - this actually happens a lot. By program they mean operating system Microsoft Windows XP, plus various tools for burning CD/DVD, DVD player and Word/Excel together. None of them learned to say any of these names. Why do I bother you with all this? Sorry all, I will try to keep on-topic the next time. By the way, I NEVER heard of any Sears before in my entire life. Maybe except of Sears Tower. On 1/1/07, Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario. wrote: Oh, yes, I will never buy Sears, because they advertise something they do not even manufacture, Sears doesn't manufacture ANYTHING in their entire store. At one time, they may have made some of the Craftsman brand of small hand tools themselves. Now, they are just a department store that sells the products of other outfits. Some carry their store brand label. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
To be fair, most department stores are simply distribution outlets, and even store brands are just private labeled. But Sears has been pretty sleazy in the past, and now that they are owned by K-mart that is not likely to improve any. As a previous person said, this is good news (and it is the first I heard of it, so thanks for posting it) in that it broadens the market and the base for EMC. Even people who do not buy the Sears unit will see it in the catalog and be aware that such products exist, and some of them will search for general CNC information and find EMC. - Original Message - From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream Mario. wrote: Oh, yes, I will never buy Sears, because they advertise something they do not even manufacture, Sears doesn't manufacture ANYTHING in their entire store. At one time, they may have made some of the Craftsman brand of small hand tools themselves. Now, they are just a department store that sells the products of other outfits. Some carry their store brand label. Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 23:37 +0100, Mario. wrote: By the way, I NEVER heard of any Sears before in my entire life. Maybe except of Sears Tower. Yep, that's them. Been around for quite a while. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Tower - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CNC routing goes mainstream
I guess it had to happen sometime.. I was watching the Barret Jackson auction tonight an an interesting Sears commercial appeared. Seems Sears in now selling a CNC wood router, the Compucarve. http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yesvertical=TOOLcat=Bench+Power+Toolssubcat=Jointers%2C+Planers+%26+Shaperspid=00921754000sid=IOx20060405x099 It's a rebranding of the Carvewright by LHS Technologies You can read about it here: http://www.carvewright.com/ http://www.carvewright.com/downloads/manual.pdf Not a bad deal for $1800. The only problem is they (both Sears and LHS) are out of stock on the unit. I guess the initial production run was not big enough. The carvewright site FAQ mentions that the software does not yet import g-code or any other 3d format, but may in the future. Sorry if this is old news. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
