Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On 26 January 2012 01:22, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/24 Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, You mean like, have-been-using-EMC-the-last-nine-years doubter? I suspect that finger was being pointed at a different moderator, Al the Man for a guess. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On 01/25/2012 08:22 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: 2012/1/24 Eric Kellereekel...@psu.edu Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, maybe I'm wrong. You mean like, have-been-using-EMC-the-last-nine-years doubter? I'm one of the mods over there like Sven, and I'm a firm believer in LinuxCNC! I've even been known to defend LinuxCNC against the hordes of Mach users... ;-) Mark -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
shows how long it's been since I have been there, but I was thinking of Al and ynneb. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:46 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 January 2012 01:22, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/24 Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, You mean like, have-been-using-EMC-the-last-nine-years doubter? I suspect that finger was being pointed at a different moderator, Al the Man for a guess. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
2012/1/24 Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, maybe I'm wrong. You mean like, have-been-using-EMC-the-last-nine-years doubter? -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone I disagree. I don't like the linuxcnc forum particularly (I don't really like forums in general) but it is the first port of call for help for many new users. Many folk do go straight to the website of a package they have downloaded and look for the forum. The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small enough. I agree that it is a pity that the activity is split between two forums, but I don't think that closing either of them down is the right solution. I wonder if there is any way to link them? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: Google can't make correct forward links I just tried a search for something I knew would find the LinuxCNC website forum, and it worked fine. Can you elaborate on this point? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On mar, 2012-01-24 at 14:10 +, andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone I disagree. I don't like the linuxcnc forum particularly (I don't really like forums in general) but it is the first port of call for help for many new users. Many folk do go straight to the website of a package they have downloaded and look for the forum. The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small enough. I agree that it is a pity that the activity is split between two forums, but I don't think that closing either of them down is the right solution. I wonder if there is any way to link them? I agree with you. Mailing list, IRC and Forum are three different things, and all of them are important. The forum is good because a discussion stay there, and every newcomers can read from others errors and success. is the base of the wiki. when you see other wikis, many times near an explanation there's the link to the discussion that bringed (brought?..sorry..) to the explanation. This way, if my case is a little different from the wiki's i can better dig into the situation. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:10 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small enough. Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, maybe I'm wrong. I used to hang out more at CNCzone, but it really gets tiresome after a while. Lots of good information, and a lot of people that need help, but also lots of trolls and (often misinformed) know-it-alls that confuse things Eric Keller Boalsburg, Pennsylvania, USA -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
Eric Keller wrote: The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small enough. Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator is a EMC doubter at best, maybe I'm wrong. I used to hang out more at CNCzone, but it really gets tiresome after a while. Lots of good information, and a lot of people that need help, but also lots of trolls and (often misinformed) know-it-alls that confuse things I am a CNCZone doubter ;) It's not as bad as some of the other on-line list sites, but not being able to answer threads from my in box is the main reason it does not get as much support as these more accessible ones. It's a pet moan that there is not an ideal list management solution. SF and Yahoo both have there own niggles, but on the whole they do at least support both 'on-line' and 'off-line' users reasonably well? Any site that requires you to log in to reply when the message HAS been delivered off-line is a bigger pain ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)
andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone I disagree. I don't like the linuxcnc forum particularly (I don't really like forums in general) but it is the first port of call for help for many new users. Yes, I second this. While the Joomla forum may not be the best system out there, it IS the main forum for questions and answers for LinuxCNC users, and has permanent storage of categorized info, where others can look up previous answers and follow the thread for weeks or months. You can't do that on IRC. It sure works on Linux/Firefox, what else should LinuxCNC users be using. (Yeah, I know, the dark side.) The CNC zone foum for EMC is NOT very active at all, I monitor it about once a week, sometimes there is a new message or even two. Jon -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
