Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
Hi Jon, I asked a long time ago and sent the spec to Vlad and he said it would be ok. So I hope they will work, but you never know... Unfortenately it seems that Rutex is a sleeping business nowadays, so I hope my Rutex board will survive. I rather buy new motors if something wrecks. 2007/9/9, Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Svenne Larsson wrote: > > I'm planning to use them together with a set of Rutex controllers. > > Not there yet, but in a very near future I have more to tell. :) > Oh, there will be lots more to tell, I am afraid. The Minertia > motors have extremely small inductance, as they are ironless > rotor motors. I think the circulating triangle wave current > with the unfiltered Rutex drive will be a problem. It may cause > excessive heating of the motor, drive or both. You may want to > consult with Rutex on putting an inductor in series with the > motor before you even connect it up the first time. > > Jon > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
Thanks for the info Jon. I will do some more digging on their site for the complete specs of these systems. I'm sure I will have more questions. Reg On 9/9/07, Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Svenne Larsson wrote: > > I'm planning to use them together with a set of Rutex controllers. > > Not there yet, but in a very near future I have more to tell. :) > Oh, there will be lots more to tell, I am afraid. The Minertia > motors have extremely small inductance, as they are ironless > rotor motors. I think the circulating triangle wave current > with the unfiltered Rutex drive will be a problem. It may cause > excessive heating of the motor, drive or both. You may want to > consult with Rutex on putting an inductor in series with the > motor before you even connect it up the first time. > > Jon > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
Svenne Larsson wrote: > I'm planning to use them together with a set of Rutex controllers. > Not there yet, but in a very near future I have more to tell. :) Oh, there will be lots more to tell, I am afraid. The Minertia motors have extremely small inductance, as they are ironless rotor motors. I think the circulating triangle wave current with the unfiltered Rutex drive will be a problem. It may cause excessive heating of the motor, drive or both. You may want to consult with Rutex on putting an inductor in series with the motor before you even connect it up the first time. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
I'm planning to use them together with a set of Rutex controllers. Not there yet, but in a very near future I have more to tell. :) --S 2007/9/9, John Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sven, > > What servo controller board are you using? > > Reg > > On 9/8/07, Svenne Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > I think I have the same, or at least a very similare model from > > Minertia. They are not mounted on a machine yet (will be very soon) but > > there shouldn't be any problem. > > > > Regards, > > Sven > > > > 2007/9/8, John Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Has anyone ever connected EMC to Yaskawa servos? I have a 4 > > > axis machine that was designed as a laser solder machine some 15 years > > > ago. > > > The servos are a brush type Minertia Motor # UGRMEM-02MAKOE with > > > UTOPI-04OMX optical encoder (400 pulses/rev). The controller is > > > FR01RB7-R2M. > > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Reg > > > > > > > > > - > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ___ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
John Crane wrote: > Has anyone ever connected EMC to Yaskawa servos? I have a 4 axis > machine that was designed as a laser solder machine some 15 years ago. > The servos are a brush type Minertia Motor # UGRMEM-02MAKOE with > UTOPI-04OMX optical encoder (400 pulses/rev). The controller is > FR01RB7-R2M. I have set up some Yaskawa Servo Pak drives both using EMC software step/direction and with my stepper controller board. In that particular system, the high encoder resolution pretty much required the hardware support. I think it was 16384 step pulses per revolution. The Minertia motors are exotic ironless-rotor motors designed for high acceleration. I don't know anything about the FR series of drives, but they are likely to be standard velocity servos. Do the motors have tachometers? That would be a strong indication the drive is a velocity servo. If so, it is likely to take a +/- 10 V velocity command. A little searching indicates the FR01RB7-R2M is probably a CPCR-FR01RB7-R2M, but I couldn't find anything on the Yaskawa site on this product. You can use some other servo drives for these motors. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
Sven, What servo controller board are you using? Reg On 9/8/07, Svenne Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I have the same, or at least a very similare model from Minertia. > They are not mounted on a machine yet (will be very soon) but there > shouldn't be any problem. > > Regards, > Sven > > 2007/9/8, John Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Has anyone ever connected EMC to Yaskawa servos? I have a 4 axis > > machine that was designed as a laser solder machine some 15 years ago. The > > servos are a brush type Minertia Motor # UGRMEM-02MAKOE with UTOPI-04OMX > > optical encoder (400 pulses/rev). The controller is FR01RB7-R2M. > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > > > Reg > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
I think I have the same, or at least a very similare model from Minertia. They are not mounted on a machine yet (will be very soon) but there shouldn't be any problem. Regards, Sven 2007/9/8, John Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Has anyone ever connected EMC to Yaskawa servos? I have a 4 axis > machine that was designed as a laser solder machine some 15 years ago. The > servos are a brush type Minertia Motor # UGRMEM-02MAKOE with UTOPI-04OMX > optical encoder (400 pulses/rev). The controller is FR01RB7-R2M. > Any info would be appreciated. > > > Reg > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Minertia Motor (Yaskawa) Servos
Has anyone ever connected EMC to Yaskawa servos? I have a 4 axis machine that was designed as a laser solder machine some 15 years ago. The servos are a brush type Minertia Motor # UGRMEM-02MAKOE with UTOPI-04OMX optical encoder (400 pulses/rev). The controller is FR01RB7-R2M. Any info would be appreciated. Reg - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
