Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
2011/5/31 Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks I'm working in Rhino and MadCAM nowadays, works very well. It's easier to use and cost less than my previous CAM system. MadCAM (Mould And Die CAM) comes in different levels, and in the PRO license you can generate 5-axis code but there's also a mid level for 4-axis support. http://madcamcnc.com/product.html Some example videos here http://madcamcnc.blogspot.com/ Regards, Sven -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Gene, I built it from source, What tarball version? I grabbed the latest from the source repository, following the instructions here: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/wiki/BuildWithCmakeOnUbuntu At the bottom of that link there is a script that does it all. If your not using ubuntu, you can use it as a guide. I've found a number of tutorials on YouTube. I just found those last night. Generally he is too far from the mic, and goes way too fast for me to keep up. I've had the same problem. I viewed the multiple times. I pause them, play around heekcad and then continue. It would be nice to have a tutorial that took something simple from a hand drawn sketch, into heekscnc, and then milled using EMC2. That would be several 10 minute movies to do it justice, but yeah, precisely my thought. Maybe I can do put together something along those lines as I learn. No promises. I'll try to keep a list of difficulties I've come across so that I can organise my thoughts later. Work and my parents visiting are going to keep me busy over the next couple weeks. Me too Andy. And as I age, that point where I can say aha, that's how it works seems slower and slower in coming. At 76 and diabetic, I'm fond of quoting that old saw about taking better care of me if I had known I was going to live this long. ;-) Well, I'm 25 years behind you, and a bit slower on the uptake these days. Oh well :) We've hijacked Igor's original post, so we should probably create a new thread, take this off-line or move it over to the heekscad list. Regards, Andy attachment: andy.vcf-- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 03:09:57 AM Andy Howell did opine: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy From my POV, HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC for linux is a disaster as its several versions (0.13) behind the windows issue (0.18) and missing stuff in wholesale quantities. Using wine on this pclos box, heekscad for winderz seems to run well and stably once you click through about 25 xml errors on startup. But I have not been able to locate any beginner oriented printable tutorials for it. A URL for that would be highly appreciated. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html She sells cshs by the cshore. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On 05/31/2011 03:03 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 03:09:57 AM Andy Howell did opine: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy From my POV, HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC for linux is a disaster as its several versions (0.13) behind the windows issue (0.18) and missing stuff in wholesale quantities. Using wine on this pclos box, heekscad for winderz seems to run well and stably once you click through about 25 xml errors on startup. But I have not been able to locate any beginner oriented printable tutorials for it. A URL for that would be highly appreciated. Gene, I built it from source, which is pretty straight forward. I did have to fix some problems in the EMC2.py script. Those changes are checked in. There are three different EMC 'machines' defined. I fixed the firth first one, EMC2 Controler'. There are some docs and links under http://code.google.com/p/heekscnc/ I've found a number of tutorials on YouTube. It would be nice to have a tutorial that took something simple from a hand drawn sketch, into heekscnc, and then milled using EMC2. I ended up starting with HeeksCNC because I could not find any other open source packages that handled both the CAD and CAM aspects. QCad has a CAM option, but its not free. Being new to all this, its taking me awhile to figure out how all the pieces fit together :) Regards, Andy attachment: andy.vcf-- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Igor, Inexpensive CAD CAM is a very relative term. I use AlibreCAM in my home shop, and it has an EMC post processor. You can check out their tutorials on YouTube. Cheers, jim - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue May 31 00:19:36 2011 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. attachment: winmail.dat-- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Igor, I have been doing a traject at a shipyard implementing a CAD/CAM solution. And the reality is that you might have personal opinions on how to work, would you like to work parametric, or not for example. Pro/Egineer (at that time) was a strong parametric tool, Solidwork was much less (you can 'fool around) and at that time Inventor was just a mess. But, any of the 3 pages would just work very well in specific situation, and with specific users. I can strongly recommend Pro/Engineet Wildfire, and I have loaded g-code from Pro/E into EMC2 without issues. But saying this, makes properly others people back hair stand up straight :D It's really up to you, check your budgets, and check what tools are available and what the general audience do with the tools. Then just try it out, this is really the only good way for you to find a CAD package that will fit you. In general all CAD packages can do what you what, however the gotcha is, how easy can do do that?? I can only speak for Pro/E but if I change my model, then Pro/E can re-generate all toolpath's without re-doing all that work, just click 're-generate toolpath' this works very will if you use one model frequently with changed dimensions. If you don't do this, then you might not want to go through the burden understanding this workflow and use a CAD package with a external CAM package that keep the relation, but might just be a whole lot cheaper. just my 2 cents... Ries On May 31, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Ries, thanks. Creo Elements/Pro is a full CAD/CAM package and has EMC2 compatible output. Right? On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:03 AM, R. van Twisk e...@rvt.dds.nl wrote: Igor, I have been doing a traject at a shipyard implementing a CAD/CAM solution. And the reality is that you might have personal opinions on how to work, would you like to work parametric, or not for example. Pro/Egineer (at that time) was a strong parametric tool, Solidwork was much less (you can 'fool around) and at that time Inventor was just a mess. But, any of the 3 pages would just work very well in specific situation, and with specific users. I can strongly recommend Pro/Engineet Wildfire, and I have loaded g-code from Pro/E into EMC2 without issues. But saying this, makes properly others people back hair stand up straight :D It's really up to you, check your budgets, and check what tools are available and what the general audience do with the tools. Then just try it out, this is really the only good way for you to find a CAD package that will fit you. In general all CAD packages can do what you what, however the gotcha is, how easy can do do that?? I can only speak for Pro/E but if I change my model, then Pro/E can re-generate all toolpath's without re-doing all that work, just click 're-generate toolpath' this works very will if you use one model frequently with changed dimensions. If you don't do this, then you might not want to go through the burden understanding this workflow and use a CAD package with a external CAM package that keep the relation, but might just be a whole lot cheaper. just my 2 cents... Ries On May 31, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Thanks, Jim. i am looking at it now. While it is kind of shocking to pay as much money as I paid for my CNC Bridgeport conversion, if a product is good, it may make sense. I found Alibre Design Expert on a certain pirate bay. I will try to evaluate it. Thanks a lot for the pointer. Which Alibre CAM do you use? i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:02 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, Inexpensive CAD CAM is a very relative term. I use AlibreCAM in my home shop, and it has an EMC post processor. You can check out their tutorials on YouTube. Cheers, jim - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue May 31 00:19:36 2011 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Igor, I use Standard, but for 4-Axis you will need AlibreCAM Professional. jim -Original Message- From: Igor Chudov [mailto:ichu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:16 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Thanks, Jim. i am looking at it now. While it is kind of shocking to pay as much money as I paid for my CNC Bridgeport conversion, if a product is good, it may make sense. I found Alibre Design Expert on a certain pirate bay. I will try to evaluate it. Thanks a lot for the pointer. Which Alibre CAM do you use? i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:02 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, Inexpensive CAD CAM is a very relative term. I use AlibreCAM in my home shop, and it has an EMC post processor. You can check out their tutorials on YouTube. Cheers, jim - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue May 31 00:19:36 2011 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:35 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, I use Standard, but for 4-Axis you will need AlibreCAM Professional. Thanks. With the standard AlibreCAM, though, I can do all 2.5D stuff, right? Pocketing and so on? Igor jim -Original Message- From: Igor Chudov [mailto:ichu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:16 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Thanks, Jim. i am looking at it now. While it is kind of shocking to pay as much money as I paid for my CNC Bridgeport conversion, if a product is good, it may make sense. I found Alibre Design Expert on a certain pirate bay. I will try to evaluate it. Thanks a lot for the pointer. Which Alibre CAM do you use? i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:02 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, Inexpensive CAD CAM is a very relative term. I use AlibreCAM in my home shop, and it has an EMC post processor. You can check out their tutorials on YouTube. Cheers, jim - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue May 31 00:19:36 2011 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Yes, and the post processor is customizable too. jim -Original Message- From: Igor Chudov [mailto:ichu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:40 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:35 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, I use Standard, but for 4-Axis you will need AlibreCAM Professional. Thanks. With the standard AlibreCAM, though, I can do all 2.5D stuff, right? Pocketing and so on? Igor jim -Original Message- From: Igor Chudov [mailto:ichu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:16 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Thanks, Jim. i am looking at it now. While it is kind of shocking to pay as much money as I paid for my CNC Bridgeport conversion, if a product is good, it may make sense. I found Alibre Design Expert on a certain pirate bay. I will try to evaluate it. Thanks a lot for the pointer. Which Alibre CAM do you use? i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:02 AM, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.orgwrote: Igor, Inexpensive CAD CAM is a very relative term. I use AlibreCAM in my home shop, and it has an EMC post processor. You can check out their tutorials on YouTube. Cheers, jim - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue May 31 00:19:36 2011 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
- Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ries, thanks. Creo Elements/Pro is a full CAD/CAM package and has EMC2 compatible output. Right? Igor - pardon me jumping in here Creo Elements/Pro (was Pro|Engineer Wildfire 5.0) will generate good G-code for all sorts of milling up to full 5 axis stuff. It has a generic post processor with a menu driven confguration program to configure the details of the G-code output. This program allows you to define the architecture of your rotary axes - trunnion, wrist etc. For the brave, there are other tools that allow you to control the code in very detailed ways (e.g. FIL) Commercial seats of this product is not cheap and the educational versions are limited in CAM capability. The learning curve is steep. There are many historical GUIs in the software. There is a lot of stuff on U-tube but it mainly relates to Wildfire 4.0 (or earlier) The NC Manufacturing module GUI has changed dramatically for Creo/Elements Pro. Undergraduate students, who use Pro|E CAD regularly, can machine their first part after about 6 hours of study. Workflow for prototyping shops is very good, as the manufacturing model is fully associative with the 3D part modelled in the CAD parts of the package. Change a pocket size or depth, re-run the creation of the CL data and G-code files and it will cut the new part. CAM solutions based in importing IGES are a problem as you often have to redefine all the cutting sequences for the new version of the file. You also get a version of Vericut which gives an accurate preview of machining including possible interference of tool holders with stock or fixturing. HTH John Prentice -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:19 AM, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: - Original Message - From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ries, thanks. Creo Elements/Pro is a full CAD/CAM package and has EMC2 compatible output. Right? Igor - pardon me jumping in here Creo Elements/Pro (was Pro|Engineer Wildfire 5.0) will generate good G-code for all sorts of milling up to full 5 axis stuff. It has a generic post processor with a menu driven confguration program to configure the details of the G-code output. This program allows you to define the architecture of your rotary axes - trunnion, wrist etc. For the brave, there are other tools that allow you to control the code in very detailed ways (e.g. FIL) Commercial seats of this product is not cheap and the educational versions are limited in CAM capability. John, as far as I can tell, just about every powerful CAD/CAM system has a steep learning curve. So, I want to settle on one thing that may be hard to learn, but at least has the capabilities that i need (4 axis). Cost is a concern. Personally, I have no ingrained respect for copyright , as such. thanks i The learning curve is steep. There are many historical GUIs in the software. There is a lot of stuff on U-tube but it mainly relates to Wildfire 4.0 (or earlier) The NC Manufacturing module GUI has changed dramatically for Creo/Elements Pro. Undergraduate students, who use Pro|E CAD regularly, can machine their first part after about 6 hours of study. Workflow for prototyping shops is very good, as the manufacturing model is fully associative with the 3D part modelled in the CAD parts of the package. Change a pocket size or depth, re-run the creation of the CL data and G-code files and it will cut the new part. CAM solutions based in importing IGES are a problem as you often have to redefine all the cutting sequences for the new version of the file. You also get a version of Vericut which gives an accurate preview of machining including possible interference of tool holders with stock or fixturing. HTH John Prentice -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:22:25 AM Andy Howell did opine: On 05/31/2011 03:03 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 03:09:57 AM Andy Howell did opine: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy From my POV, HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC for linux is a disaster as its several versions (0.13) behind the windows issue (0.18) and missing stuff in wholesale quantities. Using wine on this pclos box, heekscad for winderz seems to run well and stably once you click through about 25 xml errors on startup. But I have not been able to locate any beginner oriented printable tutorials for it. A URL for that would be highly appreciated. Gene, I built it from source, What tarball version? which is pretty straight forward. I did have to fix some problems in the EMC2.py script. Those changes are checked in. There are three different EMC 'machines' defined. I fixed the firth first one, EMC2 Controler'. There are some docs and links under http://code.google.com/p/heekscnc/ I found those easily enough. 3rd party authored. I've found a number of tutorials on YouTube. I just found those last night. Generally he is too far from the mic, and goes way too fast for me to keep up. It would be nice to have a tutorial that took something simple from a hand drawn sketch, into heekscnc, and then milled using EMC2. That would be several 10 minute movies to do it justice, but yeah, precisely my thought. I ended up starting with HeeksCNC because I could not find any other open source packages that handled both the CAD and CAM aspects. QCad has a CAM option, but its not free. Being new to all this, its taking me awhile to figure out how all the pieces fit together :) Me too Andy. And as I age, that point where I can say aha, that's how it works seems slower and slower in coming. At 76 and diabetic, I'm fond of quoting that old saw about taking better care of me if I had known I was going to live this long. ;-) One of my stepsons came down for the weekend I got out the boat we went fishing. Caught a bunch of minnows one bass plus an improved tan. Coming back, my son said, well, now you know how to catch trout with a grin. Pulling up to the dock to wait my turn at the ramp to pull out, I tried to give that lone bass to the retired folks in the next boat, but they didn't want it, and in fact said they had some trout, about a dozen, to give away. Not having had fresh trout in 30 years, I said I'd take them. So they dug out a plastic grocery sack and opened up the live well in their bass tracker started sacking rainbows, and the smallest one was a good 14, with several up around the 18 range! That sack was FULL and over 20 pounds easy. So the 2nd warmup of my new gas grill was a fish fry Sunday evening. We ate very well indeed. And about half of them are still in the freezer where we put them to stiffen up while filleting them. I had passed them, sitting on the bank with the boat semi beached, so I know where they were fishing, and the trout were full of a chartreuse powerbait, said they were fishing on the bottom as far out as their spin rods could throw, so they were a good 40 foot deep. Anyway, to bring home trout, try to give away the only bass you caught. ;-) Makes perfect sense when you think about it. :) In fact, I was surprised at the relative lack of traffic on the lake, I'd guess a dozen boats at the max. Its a 10 horse limit lake, used for flood control mostly, about 12 miles long. About 80 feet deep, my fishfinder said the surface temp was 78F, already too warm IMO. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Programmers used to batch environments may find it hard to live without giant listings; we would find it hard to use them. -- D.M. Ritchie -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today.
[Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Ed, thanks. I am looking at it. Essentially, its limitation is that it cannot do curvy shapes, right? i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
It can generate toolpaths for curvy shapes in three dimensions, but it cannot create curvy 3 dimensional models. So if you generate a 3d model in a program that can export an STL (for example Autodesk's free 123d) you can use CamBam's tools to generate the gcode to cut it. CamBam's 2.5D cad tools are quite powerful so if you are not working with curves in the 3d dimension you can do just about everything inside CamBam. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, thanks. I am looking at it. Essentially, its limitation is that it cannot do curvy shapes, right? i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Not sure what you mean by curvy shapes but it will do curves in either two or three dimensional work. (the majority of the work I do is 2d curves in wood) I took a look on the CamBam forum and apparently it will do 4th axis work through a work-around. Oh, and by the way, the developer has said he is considering porting CamBam to Linux so the more of us EMC2 people that use it the more pressure he will feel to do so. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:06:40 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ed, thanks. I am looking at it. Essentially, its limitation is that it cannot do curvy shapes, right? i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Ed, for example, can this CamBam help me generate G code for making a mold that is a half sphere removed from metal? The 4th axis, I think, I can use mostly as an indexing axis. i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: Not sure what you mean by curvy shapes but it will do curves in either two or three dimensional work. (the majority of the work I do is 2d curves in wood) I took a look on the CamBam forum and apparently it will do 4th axis work through a work-around. Oh, and by the way, the developer has said he is considering porting CamBam to Linux so the more of us EMC2 people that use it the more pressure he will feel to do so. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:06:40 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ed, thanks. I am looking at it. Essentially, its limitation is that it cannot do curvy shapes, right? i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Yes, I believe it can though it's something I've not gotten into yet. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 11:06:13 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ed, for example, can this CamBam help me generate G code for making a mold that is a half sphere removed from metal? The 4th axis, I think, I can use mostly as an indexing axis. i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: Not sure what you mean by curvy shapes but it will do curves in either two or three dimensional work. (the majority of the work I do is 2d curves in wood) I took a look on the CamBam forum and apparently it will do 4th axis work through a work-around. Oh, and by the way, the developer has said he is considering porting CamBam to Linux so the more of us EMC2 people that use it the more pressure he will feel to do so. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:06:40 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling Ed, thanks. I am looking at it. Essentially, its limitation is that it cannot do curvy shapes, right? i On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been satisfied with CamBam http://www.cambam.info/. It's only $150 and it's a well maintained product with an active user base. I don't think it does the 4th axis though. From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:52:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Thanks i -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy attachment: andy.vcf-- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Andy, ideally, I would like to hear an opinion of a seasoned user, who made plenty of parts using a particular CAD/CAM package. Many software projects look great upon the first initial impression. Later, real life problems crop up and many of those promising projects end up in the does not really work pile. What I really want to know is to hear something like I used program XYZ to make a lot of metal parts and it is really great. In response to my question, I expected to hear answers such as look at this and that looks interesting, but this is decidedly not what I am looking for. I am looking for an opinion of a seasoned user who is satisfied with sufficient amount of usage experience with a particular project. i On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Andy Howell a...@gamubaru.com wrote: On 05/30/2011 07:52 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am aware that this is a can of worms. I will ask, nevertheless. I am becoming constrained by my approach of just write G code for anything I want. Is there an inexpensive CAD/CAM package that is EMC2 compatible, designed to work with milling operation (I have a 4 axis mill). At this point I do not care if it is Windows or Linux based, although I would prefer Linux. Igor, I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Regards, Andy -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
Igor, look thru http://tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue54/frost.html for some (imo) more professional pay for products and ask for a free limited time version of Medusa http://www.cad-schroer.com/ these products are not easy to evaluate, since any powerful tool usually has more primitives and finding people to say 'ive used to make several dies/molds/machine designs will be difficult its only a small investment in money it'll be a big investment in time but these companies ( esp Varicad and Schroeder ) may have some examples for you to look at. I owned a version f Varicad when it first came out ( about BDI 2 iirc ) and it was way more than what I needed which was jig/fixture design. Schroeder has updated my free Medusa twice now and i am embarrassed to say i really only cracked it open twice :( hth tomp -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling
I've been playing with HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC. I'm quite new to machining, cad/cam etc, so I can't comment on how it compares to other packages. I run it under Ubuntu. It works under windows as well. See http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ slightly OT, but anyway: everyone who feels confident in c++ and/or computational geometry or is willing to learn, I have a project where the goal is to create a CAM-library for toolpath calculations: http://code.google.com/p/opencamlib/ Some things to work on: - documentation/examples - finish push-cutter (radial tool projection of a cone-shape) - add line and arc generators to the voronoi-diagram algorithm. this leads to a fast and robust 2D offset algorithm. (something the librecad project could be interested in also?) - construction of cutter-location surfaces/meshes. various slicing, cutting, and filtering operations on this surface then leads to more advanced toolpath strategies than the simple zigzag and waterline which are in prototype-stage right now. - cutting simulation. the bare-bones are sort of there but integration with an OpenGL environment of choice as well as interfacing with the emc2 interpreter is missing. Anders -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
