Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: It might make sense to have an option without terminals, for those of us who really can't stand the IDC ones ;) Even if I only save $10 or $20 due to parts cost, I sure save a lot of work and aggravation by not having to desolder the large connectors. I can't test it on my bed-of-nails text fixture without something soldered in those holes. Maybe I should prominently list the screw-terminal option on my price list. It sure is a pain of somebody has to pull the whole board out of their system and send it for repair. Fortunately, that is extremely rare, unless they get hit by lightning. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Maybe this is a dumb point. Could you not flow solder on the contacts on the board and let the user choose? Kyle Jon Elson wrote: I can't test it on my bed-of-nails text fixture without something soldered in those holes. Maybe I should prominently list the screw-terminal option on my price list. It sure is a pain of somebody has to pull the whole board out of their system and send it for repair. Fortunately, that is extremely rare, unless they get hit by lightning. Jon Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Actually, there's a better way :) (getting rid of the solder is one of the pains of replacing those connectors.) There are hundreds of kinds of pins for bed-o-nails fixtures, including ones that are meant to toich pins (cup varieties), ones that are meant to touch bare metal areas like SMT pads (castle-type, I think), and ones that are meant to poke into empty holes, which are basically cone shaped. These are also available in sockets - you populate the socket into the text fixture board, and then you can choose which type of pin to insert, and can repair a bent/broken probe pin by just putting in a new one. At my old company, test jig repairs were basically eliminated when we went to the socketed probe pins. - Steve Kyle wrote: Maybe this is a dumb point. Could you not flow solder on the contacts on the board and let the user choose? Kyle Jon Elson wrote: I can't test it on my bed-of-nails text fixture without something soldered in those holes. Maybe I should prominently list the screw-terminal option on my price list. It sure is a pain of somebody has to pull the whole board out of their system and send it for repair. Fortunately, that is extremely rare, unless they get hit by lightning. Jon Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 13:18 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Actually, there's a better way :) (getting rid of the solder is one of the pains of replacing those connectors.) There are hundreds of kinds of pins for bed-o-nails fixtures, including ... snip went to the socketed probe pins. - Steve Kyle wrote: ...snip This reminded me that I have seen pads on boards just for test pins. Then I got to thinking it, would be nice to have a set of pads for d-sub connectors. I like to screw mount either the connector or the connection. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe Bridgeport mill conversion pending Zubal lathe conversion pending) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Oh good - I'm glad I'm not the only one who has done that ;) Mesa has some of their I/O boards with terminal header options - the boards are about $20 more than their ribbon header counterparts, but the two 24-pin terminal plugs are about $22 *each*. It's less than a (reasonable quality) breakout board, but not by all that much. - Steve Actually if you remove the Digikey tax they are not so bad. Avnet price (MOQ=20) is 10.77 Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Kyle wrote: Maybe this is a dumb point. Could you not flow solder on the contacts on the board and let the user choose? Most users would not want to have to suck the solder out of 60 holes and then solder in connectors. I really don't blame them, either! If you really want to do it this way, I could make up a board like that. JOn - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
You might be able to find a crown type large enough to probe either populated or unpopulated boards. Have you tried targeting the edge of the hole with a crown type? Unless the fillet is very large that might work. Javid - Original Message - From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Actually, there's a better way :) (getting rid of the solder is one of the pains of replacing those connectors.) There are hundreds of kinds of pins for bed-o-nails fixtures, including ones that are meant to toich pins (cup varieties), ones that are meant to touch bare metal areas like SMT pads (castle-type, I think), and ones that are meant to poke into empty holes, which are basically cone shaped. These are also available in sockets - you populate the socket into the text fixture board, and then you can choose which type of pin to insert, and can repair a bent/broken probe pin by just putting in a new one. At my old company, test jig repairs were basically eliminated when we went to the socketed probe pins. Yes, I have cup-type socketed probe pins from Interconnect Solutions, I think, in my test unit. I could probably replace the pins with different types, but there are only certain type of pins that fit each size socket. These are some fairly big holes in the board, so I might not be able to get big enough pins for the empty holes. But, probably there is something that would work. But, I'd have to change 60 contacts to swap the fixture over from populated to non-populated terminals strips. That could also get to be a drag. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Apparently, Pluto is not available anymore. Are there any alternatives? Are there firmware files available that would allow me to make my own? Thanks. -- Kirk Wallace (Hardinge HNC lathe, California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ ) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Kirk Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently, Pluto is not available anymore. Are there any alternatives? Are there firmware files available that would allow me to make my own? The Pluto-P will apparently be available in December: http://www.knjn.com/ShopBoards_Parallel.html The interfaces supported by EMC are listed here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware Looks like Pico Systems are the only parallel-port based alternative. Then there are some PCI-based options, the MesaNet 5i20 comes highly recommended but it's quite a bit more expensive at $200. Am I the only one who wishes for a Pluto-P with screw-terminals on the board instead of a ribbon-cable header? -- Sebastian Kuzminsky - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
On Sunday 14 October 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: Apparently, Pluto is not available anymore. Are there any alternatives? Are there firmware files available that would allow me to make my own? Thanks. I take it you are not referring to this link: http://www.bentoni.com/PLUTO/ Which appears to be a web page monitor of some sort. Now, this might be closer to what you are looking for: http://www.knjn.com/board_plutos.html Thanks to the controversy about whether pluto is a planet or not, that hit is 36 pages down in the google search. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) |Rain| Knghtbrd: let me give you access to the zone files Knghtbrd oh gods - you do realize I have never played with bind right? |Rain| uhoh :) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 14:55 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Hi Kirk. Mesa Electronics should be coming out with their 7I43 soon, which will be a reasonable alternative. It's listed as a USB-connected device, but it will be USB and/or parallel. ... snip Of course if you can use a PCI card then a Mesa 5i20 or 5i22 would do just fine also, though at significantly higher cost. - Steve Thanks for the news. I'll check it out. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe Bridgeport mill conversion pending Zubal lathe conversion pending) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 12:50 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Am I the only one who wishes for a Pluto-P with screw-terminals on the board instead of a ribbon-cable header? I am with you on this one. I much prefer screw terminals. Just a s a data point, to convert my universal stepper controller or PWM controller from the cheap IDC punch-down terminals to 2-part screw terminals costs ME an additional $60 in parts. Clearly, there are more components in the screw terminal variety. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 20:25 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 12:50 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Am I the only one who wishes for a Pluto-P with screw-terminals on the board instead of a ribbon-cable header? I am with you on this one. I much prefer screw terminals. Just a s a data point, to convert my universal stepper controller or PWM controller from the cheap IDC punch-down terminals to 2-part screw terminals costs ME an additional $60 in parts. Clearly, there are more components in the screw terminal variety. Jon Now that you mentioned it. I de-soldered the terminals on my UPC and put on screw terminals. But it's funny that I would have a really hard time paying $60 more for a UPC. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe Bridgeport mill conversion pending Zubal lathe conversion pending) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 20:25 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 12:50 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Am I the only one who wishes for a Pluto-P with screw-terminals on the board instead of a ribbon-cable header? I am with you on this one. I much prefer screw terminals. Just a s a data point, to convert my universal stepper controller or PWM controller from the cheap IDC punch-down terminals to 2-part screw terminals costs ME an additional $60 in parts. Clearly, there are more components in the screw terminal variety. Jon Now that you mentioned it. I de-soldered the terminals on my UPC and put on screw terminals. But it's funny that I would have a really hard time paying $60 more for a UPC. Oh good - I'm glad I'm not the only one who has done that ;) Mesa has some of their I/O boards with terminal header options - the boards are about $20 more than their ribbon header counterparts, but the two 24-pin terminal plugs are about $22 *each*. It's less than a (reasonable quality) breakout board, but not by all that much. - Steve - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pluto Alternatives
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 20:25 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 12:50 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Am I the only one who wishes for a Pluto-P with screw-terminals on the board instead of a ribbon-cable header? I am with you on this one. I much prefer screw terminals. Just a s a data point, to convert my universal stepper controller or PWM controller from the cheap IDC punch-down terminals to 2-part screw terminals costs ME an additional $60 in parts. Clearly, there are more components in the screw terminal variety. Jon Now that you mentioned it. I de-soldered the terminals on my UPC and put on screw terminals. But it's funny that I would have a really hard time paying $60 more for a UPC. Yeah, funny how that works out! I've made a couple for my own test stations like that, but never sold one with the screw terminals. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
