[Emc-users] Problem with RTAI on Ubuntu 8.04 HH and new EMC2 2.2.7

2008-11-14 Thread Roberto Caminiti
Hi everybody,
I have installed on my PC the Ubuntu 8.04 HH with EMC2 from the live
cd from linuxcnc.org.
After, i have updated my system to EMC 2.2.7 with the ubuntu update
manager, so I have updated
EMC2 and other 227 files (from critical update and other applications...).

Now when I try to load EMC2 with sim configuration (but it happens
with any configuration),
the rtai doesn't be loaded with the following error:

insmod: error inserting
'/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/rtai_hal.ko' -1 File exists
4891

PID TTYSTAT TIME   COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
ERROR: Module rtai_math does not exists in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module rtai_sched does not exists in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module rtai_hal is in use by rtai_lxrt

I don't know how it's possible, i have tryied to reboot the pc but nothing...
I think that other applications use this rtai_lxrt but who is this???

Thank you!
BYEEE

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Re: [Emc-users] Problem with RTAI on Ubuntu 8.04 HH and new EMC2 2.2.7

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Epler
Please show us the list of kernel modules that are loaded immediately
after you log in but before you run emc.

You can do this by opening Applications  Accessories  Terminal, then
typing dmesg, then by pasting the result into your reply.  The *top*
lines are probably going to be the important ones, but there shouldn't
be so many that you can't include them all.

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] Problem with RTAI on Ubuntu 8.04 HH and new EMC2 2.2.7

2008-11-14 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Roberto,

I suspect what is happening is that the real time kernel is not the default
kernel and the errors you are seeing are a consequence of not having a real
time kernel loaded. You can select the kernel on boot, on some systems you
may need to hit escape while grub is loading in order to select the kernel.
The real time kernels will have 'rtai' in the name.

To permanently change the default kernel, edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst.

I don't know why this has changed for HH, as far as what becomes the default
kernel, but this question will continue to get asked until that is changed.

Regards,
Eric

I have installed on my PC the Ubuntu 8.04 HH with EMC2 from the live cd from
linuxcnc.org.
After, i have updated my system to EMC 2.2.7 with the ubuntu update manager,
so I have updated
EMC2 and other 227 files (from critical update and other applications...).

Now when I try to load EMC2 with sim configuration (but it happens with any
configuration), the rtai doesn't be loaded with the following error:

insmod: error inserting
'/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/rtai_hal.ko' -1 File exists
4891

PID TTYSTAT TIME   COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
ERROR: Module rtai_math does not exists in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module rtai_sched does not exists in /proc/modules
ERROR: Module rtai_hal is in use by rtai_lxrt

I don't know how it's possible, i have tryied to reboot the pc but
nothing...
I think that other applications use this rtai_lxrt but who is this???


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Re: [Emc-users] Problem with RTAI on Ubuntu 8.04 HH and new EMC2 2.2.7

2008-11-14 Thread Alex Hunt
Roberto,

I have experienced this same issue with 8.04 installed from the live CD -
but it is occurring on EMC 2.2.6.  I haven't allowed the upgrade to 2.2.7 to
occur, but I did install all the critical  other apps.

I have found a work around - load EMC2 again!  I only get the rtai_hal.ko
file exists error the first time I try to run EMC after a reboot.  If I shut
it down and start it again, it loads.

Here are the error messages I see after a reboot:
http://pastebin.com/m12dbb0b6
Here is the dmesg list after a reboot:  http://pastebin.com/m23c28ffb
Here is the dmesg list after I load EMC, let it fail, close and re-open:
http://pastebin.com/m71e7e99b
(I'm still working on the unexpected real time delay on task 1)

I hope that is helpful.  I didn't report it before because I am very new to
EMC and I thought I was doing something wrong.

Oh, another random bit of information - this error also happens if I try to
load emc-trunk using run-in-place.

Alex


On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Eric H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Roberto,

 I suspect what is happening is that the real time kernel is not the default
 kernel and the errors you are seeing are a consequence of not having a real
 time kernel loaded. You can select the kernel on boot, on some systems you
 may need to hit escape while grub is loading in order to select the kernel.
 The real time kernels will have 'rtai' in the name.

 To permanently change the default kernel, edit the file
 /boot/grub/menu.lst.

 I don't know why this has changed for HH, as far as what becomes the
 default
 kernel, but this question will continue to get asked until that is changed.

 Regards,
 Eric

 I have installed on my PC the Ubuntu 8.04 HH with EMC2 from the live cd
 from
 linuxcnc.org.
 After, i have updated my system to EMC 2.2.7 with the ubuntu update
 manager,
 so I have updated
 EMC2 and other 227 files (from critical update and other applications...).

 Now when I try to load EMC2 with sim configuration (but it happens with any
 configuration), the rtai doesn't be loaded with the following error:

 insmod: error inserting
 '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/rtai_hal.ko' -1 File exists
 4891

 PID TTYSTAT TIME   COMMAND
 Stopping realtime threads
 Unloading hal components
 ERROR: Module rtai_math does not exists in /proc/modules
 ERROR: Module rtai_sched does not exists in /proc/modules
 ERROR: Module rtai_hal is in use by rtai_lxrt

 I don't know how it's possible, i have tryied to reboot the pc but
 nothing...
 I think that other applications use this rtai_lxrt but who is this???


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