Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
At least I can open up the stl files and view them in 3-D. There are 
several areas that are impossible to machine... they could be injection 
molded but not machined. Sharp inside corners in the Z axis are not 
machinable... if they have a radius they can be machined. The smaller 
the radius the longer it will take to machine as the tool would be 
small. I can only view a stl file and can't make a solid out of it...

Is there some reason you selected PVC as the material?

John

On 4/16/2012 4:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
 The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can open.

 John

 On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get iges/step
 exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.

 For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
 incomplete
 files.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
   wrote:
 I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
 which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
 used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
 affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
 now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
 FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

 With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
 With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
 I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

 Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
 achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
 threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

 One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
 10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
 be much bigger, depending on thickness.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 Erik,

 I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
 file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

 thanks
 John

 On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
 needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
 guys
 on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
It is
 all
 plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
 dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
Which areas?  I have built 10 of these on my 3 axis machine.  I had to hand
drill the hole in the side of the lid.  Everything else was done with 1/4,
1/8, and 1/16 bits.

PVC is the only cost effective material with resistance to bromine.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 At least I can open up the stl files and view them in 3-D. There are
 several areas that are impossible to machine... they could be injection
 molded but not machined. Sharp inside corners in the Z axis are not
 machinable... if they have a radius they can be machined. The smaller
 the radius the longer it will take to machine as the tool would be
 small. I can only view a stl file and can't make a solid out of it...

 Is there some reason you selected PVC as the material?

 John

 On 4/16/2012 4:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
  The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can
 open.
 
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get
 iges/step
  exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.
 
  For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
  incomplete
  files.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
wrote:
  I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
  which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
  used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
  affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
  now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
  FC was better for 1-3 day turns.
 
  With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
  With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
  I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.
 
  Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
  achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
  threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.
 
  One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
  10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
  be much bigger, depending on thickness.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Erik,
 
  I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
  file. Can you save the file as step or iges?
 
  thanks
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model
 of
  the part?
 
  John Thornton
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Around 50 pieces each.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote:
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
  needing
  to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
  guys
  on
  this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
 It is
  all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
  dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
It appears that all the hexes have sharp inside corners as well as a 
couple of places on the inside of the base. The bosses around the screw 
holes on the top inside corners are drawn sharp inside corners. The 
middle section bosses for the screw holes also have sharp inside 
corners. I wish SolidWorks would do more with the stl file than just 
create an image of it in one color with no edges...

I had to google bromine to see what that is...

When you machined them did you machine the radius on all the outside 
corners with a radius bit?

John

On 4/17/2012 7:17 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Which areas?  I have built 10 of these on my 3 axis machine.  I had to hand
 drill the hole in the side of the lid.  Everything else was done with 1/4,
 1/8, and 1/16 bits.

 PVC is the only cost effective material with resistance to bromine.

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 At least I can open up the stl files and view them in 3-D. There are
 several areas that are impossible to machine... they could be injection
 molded but not machined. Sharp inside corners in the Z axis are not
 machinable... if they have a radius they can be machined. The smaller
 the radius the longer it will take to machine as the tool would be
 small. I can only view a stl file and can't make a solid out of it...

 Is there some reason you selected PVC as the material?

 John

 On 4/16/2012 4:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com   wrote:

 The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
 The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can
 open.
 John

 On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get
 iges/step
 exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.

 For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
 incomplete
 files.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
wrote:
 I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
 which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
 used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
 affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
 now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
 FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

 With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
 With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
 I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

 Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
 achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
 threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

 One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
 10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
 be much bigger, depending on thickness.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Erik,

 I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
 file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

 thanks
 John

 On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model
 of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com  wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
 needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
 guys
 on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
 It is
 all
 plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
 dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
Someone on the SolidWorks forum said there is a free 30 day trial of 
alibre that is full featured and the files can be exported as a step or 
parasolid file which is a native file for SW. I'm downloading the trial 
now to see so if you want to link to the three parts in alibre I'll try 
and convert them.

John

On 4/17/2012 7:17 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Which areas?  I have built 10 of these on my 3 axis machine.  I had to hand
 drill the hole in the side of the lid.  Everything else was done with 1/4,
 1/8, and 1/16 bits.

 PVC is the only cost effective material with resistance to bromine.

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 At least I can open up the stl files and view them in 3-D. There are
 several areas that are impossible to machine... they could be injection
 molded but not machined. Sharp inside corners in the Z axis are not
 machinable... if they have a radius they can be machined. The smaller
 the radius the longer it will take to machine as the tool would be
 small. I can only view a stl file and can't make a solid out of it...

 Is there some reason you selected PVC as the material?

 John

 On 4/16/2012 4:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com   wrote:

 The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
 The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can
 open.
 John

 On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get
 iges/step
 exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.

 For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
 incomplete
 files.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
wrote:
 I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
 which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
 used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
 affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
 now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
 FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

 With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
 With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
 I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

 Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
 achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
 threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

 One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
 10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
 be much bigger, depending on thickness.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Erik,

 I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
 file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

 thanks
 John

 On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model
 of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com  wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
 needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
 guys
 on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
 It is
 all
 plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
 dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
The only places that require a 1/16 bit are the o ring grooves on the base
and middle pieces.  Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.

I machined the radius with a ball end mill, which is time consuming, but
less than doing it by hand.  The base this fits in was machined using a
ball end, so to fit I have to radius the bottom.

Here is what mine http://aercon.net/Public/Image40.jpg looks like.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone on the SolidWorks forum said there is a free 30 day trial of
 alibre that is full featured and the files can be exported as a step or
 parasolid file which is a native file for SW. I'm downloading the trial
 now to see so if you want to link to the three parts in alibre I'll try
 and convert them.

 John

 On 4/17/2012 7:17 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Which areas?  I have built 10 of these on my 3 axis machine.  I had to
 hand
  drill the hole in the side of the lid.  Everything else was done with
 1/4,
  1/8, and 1/16 bits.
 
  PVC is the only cost effective material with resistance to bromine.
 
  On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  At least I can open up the stl files and view them in 3-D. There are
  several areas that are impossible to machine... they could be injection
  molded but not machined. Sharp inside corners in the Z axis are not
  machinable... if they have a radius they can be machined. The smaller
  the radius the longer it will take to machine as the tool would be
  small. I can only view a stl file and can't make a solid out of it...
 
  Is there some reason you selected PVC as the material?
 
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 4:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
  The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can
  open.
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get
  iges/step
  exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.
 
  For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
  incomplete
  files.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
 wrote:
  I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
  which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
  used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
  affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me
 right
  now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
  FC was better for 1-3 day turns.
 
  With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
  With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With
 RM,
  I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.
 
  Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
  achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number
 of
  threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.
 
  One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
  10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size
 can
  be much bigger, depending on thickness.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Erik,
 
  I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
  file. Can you save the file as step or iges?
 
  thanks
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d
 model
  of
  the part?
 
  John Thornton
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Around 50 pieces each.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com
  wrote:
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
  needing
  to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
  guys
  on
  this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of
 it.
  It is
  all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
  dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote:
 Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.

In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
more for difficult machining that you don't need.

I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
part, but they exist in the model.

If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree the 
part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.

John

On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.net  wrote:
 Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
 In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
 shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
 more for difficult machining that you don't need.

 I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
 part, but they exist in the model.

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 nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.


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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
I get some new corrected ones on here after a bit.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree the
 part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.

 John

 On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
  On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.net  wrote:
  Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
  In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
  shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
  more for difficult machining that you don't need.
 
  I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
  part, but they exist in the model.
 
  If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
  nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.
 


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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
Strangely enough my CAM software (OneCNC) will open a stl file but I 
can't extract any edges or surfaces for machining.

I registered twice to get the trial download but have not received the 
email yet with the information... the next page gave me another register 
page and wouldn't you know I got an email from a salesperson asap...

http://mkt.alibre.com/testdrive

John


On 4/17/2012 8:32 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 I get some new corrected ones on here after a bit.

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree the
 part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.

 John

 On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.net   wrote:
 Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
 In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
 shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
 more for difficult machining that you don't need.

 I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
 part, but they exist in the model.

 If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
 nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.


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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
Whats is the cost for OneCNC?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Strangely enough my CAM software (OneCNC) will open a stl file but I
 can't extract any edges or surfaces for machining.

 I registered twice to get the trial download but have not received the
 email yet with the information... the next page gave me another register
 page and wouldn't you know I got an email from a salesperson asap...

 http://mkt.alibre.com/testdrive

 John


 On 4/17/2012 8:32 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  I get some new corrected ones on here after a bit.
 
  On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree the
  part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.
 
  John
 
  On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
  On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.net   wrote:
  Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
  In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
  shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
  more for difficult machining that you don't need.
 
  I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
  part, but they exist in the model.
 
  If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
  nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.
 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread John Thornton
IIRC the level of OneCNC I purchased was somewhat over 1k... I can't 
completely recommend it as it does have some UI issues and is not the 
best but it does work for me.

Still no response from the attempt to get a trial version of alibre so 
unless you can create a dxf with all the information needed then that 
would have to be brought into the CAM software and extruded out to a 
solid for the CAM software or an industry standard 3-D file like iges or 
step or parasolid I can't even begin to look at it...

This is frustrating at the least...

John

On 4/17/2012 9:14 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Whats is the cost for OneCNC?

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Strangely enough my CAM software (OneCNC) will open a stl file but I
 can't extract any edges or surfaces for machining.

 I registered twice to get the trial download but have not received the
 email yet with the information... the next page gave me another register
 page and wouldn't you know I got an email from a salesperson asap...

 http://mkt.alibre.com/testdrive

 John


 On 4/17/2012 8:32 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 I get some new corrected ones on here after a bit.

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com   wrote:

 The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree the
 part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.

 John

 On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.netwrote:
 Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
 In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
 shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
 more for difficult machining that you don't need.

 I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
 part, but they exist in the model.

 If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
 nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.


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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
Paid$$.  Try these - www.aercon.net/Public/PartsIges.zip

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 IIRC the level of OneCNC I purchased was somewhat over 1k... I can't
 completely recommend it as it does have some UI issues and is not the
 best but it does work for me.

 Still no response from the attempt to get a trial version of alibre so
 unless you can create a dxf with all the information needed then that
 would have to be brought into the CAM software and extruded out to a
 solid for the CAM software or an industry standard 3-D file like iges or
 step or parasolid I can't even begin to look at it...

 This is frustrating at the least...

 John

 On 4/17/2012 9:14 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Whats is the cost for OneCNC?
 
  On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Strangely enough my CAM software (OneCNC) will open a stl file but I
  can't extract any edges or surfaces for machining.
 
  I registered twice to get the trial download but have not received the
  email yet with the information... the next page gave me another register
  page and wouldn't you know I got an email from a salesperson asap...
 
  http://mkt.alibre.com/testdrive
 
  John
 
 
  On 4/17/2012 8:32 AM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  I get some new corrected ones on here after a bit.
 
  On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  The top part just has some counterbores for SHCS's.  And yes I agree
 the
  part should be modeled with a radius on inside corners as allowed.
 
  John
 
  On 4/17/2012 8:13 AM, andy pugh wrote:
  On 17 April 2012 14:02, Erik Friesene...@aercon.netwrote:
  Everything else ended up with 1/8 radius.
  In that case you need to draw it with a 1/8 radius, or the machine
  shops will quote for the part as-drawn, and you will be paying a lot
  more for difficult machining that you don't need.
 
  I see, for example, that you don't have hexagonal recesses in your
  part, but they exist in the model.
 
  If you want to keep nuts captive then a rounded triangle will work
  nearly as well, but can be much more easily machined.
 
 
 
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[Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing to
outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on this
project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is all
plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
are 4 x 2.35
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread James Louis
Erik,

A few years ago I used e-machine shop.  Their CAD software, which you must 
download and install, was very basic.  It worked well and the CNC machining was 
reasonably priced.  The whole process is transparent down to your cost and ship 
date before you even purchase your part(s).  You can back out with nothing lost 
but your CAD time.
I was very happy with the tolerances held too.

http://www.emachineshop.com

Jim

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Subject: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing to
outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on this
project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is all
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Dave
On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is all
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How many do you need?

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
Around 50 pieces each.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on
 this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is
 all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread John Thornton
I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of 
the part?

John Thornton

On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com  wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is
 all
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 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

DXF http://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
PDF http://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
Alibre http://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Around 50 pieces each.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com  wrote:
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing
 to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on
  this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is
  all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread John Thornton
Erik,

I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt 
file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

thanks
John

On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com   wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is
 all
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 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Joseph Chiu
I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
be much bigger, depending on thickness.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Erik,

 I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
 file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

 thanks
 John

 On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com   wrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.  It is
 all
 plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get iges/step
exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.

For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading incomplete
files.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT



On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiu joec...@joechiu.com wrote:

 I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
 which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
 used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
 affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
 now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
 FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

 With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
 With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
 I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

 Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
 achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
 threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

 One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
 10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
 be much bigger, depending on thickness.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:
  Erik,
 
  I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
  file. Can you save the file as step or iges?
 
  thanks
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
  the part?
 
  John Thornton
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Around 50 pieces each.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com   wrote:
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
 needing
  to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys
 on
  this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
  It is
  all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread John Thornton
The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing. 
The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can open.

John

On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get iges/step
 exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.

 For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading incomplete
 files.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com  wrote:

 I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
 which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
 used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
 affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
 now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
 FC was better for 1-3 day turns.

 With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
 With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
 I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.

 Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
 achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
 threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.

 One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
 10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
 be much bigger, depending on thickness.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Erik,

 I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
 file. Can you save the file as step or iges?

 thanks
 John

 On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.

 DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
 PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
 Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
 the part?

 John Thornton

 On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Around 50 pieces each.

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.comwrote:

 On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
 Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
 needing
 to
 outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the guys
 on
 this
 project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
   It is
 all
 plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
 http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three, dimensions
 are 4 x 2.35

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Re: [Emc-users] machine shop advice

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
Ok, hadn't thought that far.  www.aercon.net/Public/Pumpitems.zip

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 The dxf and pdf came through this time but too much detail is missing.
 The alibre web site says the software can export to STL which I can open.

 John

 On 4/16/2012 3:36 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Try these again.The ad_prt is an alibre file.  I intend to get iges/step
  exporting, but currently only have alibre pe.
 
  For some reason, fireftp isn't doing its job, and was uploading
 incomplete
  files.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Chiujoec...@joechiu.com
  wrote:
 
  I've recently got a bunch of parts from FirstCut (Part of ProtoLabs,
  which started out as ProtoMold) that turned out well.  Years ago, I
  used Rapid Sheet Metal for sheet work, and was very happy.  Their
  affiliate company, Rapid Machining, is working on a piece for me right
  now.  Their prices were better than FirstCut for 5-days turns, while
  FC was better for 1-3 day turns.
 
  With FC and RM, they used my exported STEP 214 files from Alibre.
  With FC, I use their online system to call out the threads.  With RM,
  I had a separate .pdf calling out my threads.
 
  Both places have a +/- 0.005 as a standard tolerance; but usually
  achieves much better than that.  FC only supports a limited number of
  threads.  RM appears to be more flexible.
 
  One thing about FC -- they claim they have a bed size limit of 7 x
  10 -- but it turns out for thinner parts, the supported bed size can
  be much bigger, depending on thickness.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Erik,
 
  I get invalid or incomplete for the dxf and bad file for the ad_prt
  file. Can you save the file as step or iges?
 
  thanks
  John
 
  On 4/16/2012 2:00 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  The 3d pdf's created by alibre are a little flaky.
 
  DXFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Base.dxf
  PDFhttp://www.aercon.net/Public/Bottom.pdf
  Alibrehttp://aercon.net/Public/Base.AD_PRT
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com
wrote:
  I can't see much on the pdf, do you have a cad drawing or 3d model of
  the part?
 
  John Thornton
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:42 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Around 50 pieces each.
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.comwrote:
 
  On 4/16/2012 1:35 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:
  Has anyone here use e-machine shop, or anything like it?  I am
  needing
  to
  outsource some cnc work, but not sure where to go.  One of the
 guys
  on
  this
  project had mentioned www.mfg.com, but I am pretty leery of it.
It is
  all
  plastic machining, pvc sheet.  Here
  http://www.aercon.net//Public/Base.pdfis one of three,
 dimensions
  are 4 x 2.35
 
 
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