Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Many thanks for all your help and comments, I think I'll try booting from a USB stick. Regards -- From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:48 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems My old recommendation stands, install OS on another computer and then move the disk. i On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I did that, otherwise I would not have booted from usb flash drive, would I? I spent pretty long time trying to figure out, if there is something in the BIOS that I should check/uncheck, but no luck. But it works with my laptop. Unfortunately all my remaining PCs are old enough so that there is no support for booting from usb in the BIOS. /vie 2010/8/27 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Make sure that in the BIOS that you have enable boot from USB device set and it is in your boot device list. Otherwise it definitely will not work. Hard to beat CDROM/DVD drives for loading up an OS quickly. Dave On 8/27/2010 5:12 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/8/26 Davee...@dc9.tzo.com: Andy, There is no reason why you cannot connect a Sata or USB CDROM drive to your system, install the OS and then remove the CDROM drive. Get the latest EMC2 live CD and boot the system off the CDROM drive, then have it load the system right off the live CD. You can't get any simpler than that. I have a portable USB CDROM drive that I use all of the time just for that purpose.But you could temporarily plug in a Sata CDROM also. The Pico power supplies work fine and so does the 510 board. I tried to boot from external USB DVD-RW and got boot error on the screen. The drive is ~1 year old and I have successfully booted from it on my laptop, I have burned discs with it and I do not remember having any trouble with it, but it never worked as bootable drive with my D510MO board. I tried both Hardy and Lucid as well as Windows. None of them worked, so be aware that You might meet some obstacles with usb dvd drives, because I do not think that it was a problem with my drive. But the idea itself is very nice - attach dvd drive, install system and then remove the drive to save space. /vie -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
2010/8/26 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Andy, There is no reason why you cannot connect a Sata or USB CDROM drive to your system, install the OS and then remove the CDROM drive. Get the latest EMC2 live CD and boot the system off the CDROM drive, then have it load the system right off the live CD. You can't get any simpler than that. I have a portable USB CDROM drive that I use all of the time just for that purpose. But you could temporarily plug in a Sata CDROM also. The Pico power supplies work fine and so does the 510 board. I tried to boot from external USB DVD-RW and got boot error on the screen. The drive is ~1 year old and I have successfully booted from it on my laptop, I have burned discs with it and I do not remember having any trouble with it, but it never worked as bootable drive with my D510MO board. I tried both Hardy and Lucid as well as Windows. None of them worked, so be aware that You might meet some obstacles with usb dvd drives, because I do not think that it was a problem with my drive. But the idea itself is very nice - attach dvd drive, install system and then remove the drive to save space. /vie -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
2010/8/26 Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk: On 26 August 2010 22:08, Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com wrote: I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have exactly the system you describe. I started with a VMWare Lucid install on my Mac (based on a downloaded ISO) I then used the Startup Disc Creator that is included in Lucid to make a bootable USB stick, (System-Administration-Startup Disk Creator) to make a bootable Lucid USB stick. I needed to make a couple of BIOS changes to get the system to boot from the rear-panel USB slots, but I think that the front panel header is meant to support USB drives by default. However that is unwired on mine (and probablu yours) and the others worked. I recall a bit of messing about to get the drive bootable, I think it has to be FAT16 for example. Once the machine is booted you can install from a script. You will soon be able to create a bootable Lucid USB stick from the LiveCD image, I think, which will save a few steps. Currently the LiveCD is Hardy, which has been perfectly OK as a CNC OS for the last couple of years. You can create live-usb for Lucid from a iso image with the USB startup disk creator and You can do it in Hardy or other Ubuntu version, which, I suppose, You already have on one of Your PCs. There is application called unetbootin which allows You to create live-usb stick from iso image also on windows machine - I have used it few times and I like it, so IMHO getting live-usb with Lucid on it is not a problem. /vie -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Viesturs Lācis wrote: But the idea itself is very nice - attach dvd drive, install system and then remove the drive to save space. I have an old internal drive and cable with it's own power supply just for that job ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Make sure that in the BIOS that you have enable boot from USB device set and it is in your boot device list. Otherwise it definitely will not work. Hard to beat CDROM/DVD drives for loading up an OS quickly. Dave On 8/27/2010 5:12 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/8/26 Davee...@dc9.tzo.com: Andy, There is no reason why you cannot connect a Sata or USB CDROM drive to your system, install the OS and then remove the CDROM drive. Get the latest EMC2 live CD and boot the system off the CDROM drive, then have it load the system right off the live CD. You can't get any simpler than that. I have a portable USB CDROM drive that I use all of the time just for that purpose.But you could temporarily plug in a Sata CDROM also. The Pico power supplies work fine and so does the 510 board. I tried to boot from external USB DVD-RW and got boot error on the screen. The drive is ~1 year old and I have successfully booted from it on my laptop, I have burned discs with it and I do not remember having any trouble with it, but it never worked as bootable drive with my D510MO board. I tried both Hardy and Lucid as well as Windows. None of them worked, so be aware that You might meet some obstacles with usb dvd drives, because I do not think that it was a problem with my drive. But the idea itself is very nice - attach dvd drive, install system and then remove the drive to save space. /vie -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Well, I did that, otherwise I would not have booted from usb flash drive, would I? I spent pretty long time trying to figure out, if there is something in the BIOS that I should check/uncheck, but no luck. But it works with my laptop. Unfortunately all my remaining PCs are old enough so that there is no support for booting from usb in the BIOS. /vie 2010/8/27 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Make sure that in the BIOS that you have enable boot from USB device set and it is in your boot device list. Otherwise it definitely will not work. Hard to beat CDROM/DVD drives for loading up an OS quickly. Dave On 8/27/2010 5:12 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/8/26 Davee...@dc9.tzo.com: Andy, There is no reason why you cannot connect a Sata or USB CDROM drive to your system, install the OS and then remove the CDROM drive. Get the latest EMC2 live CD and boot the system off the CDROM drive, then have it load the system right off the live CD. You can't get any simpler than that. I have a portable USB CDROM drive that I use all of the time just for that purpose. But you could temporarily plug in a Sata CDROM also. The Pico power supplies work fine and so does the 510 board. I tried to boot from external USB DVD-RW and got boot error on the screen. The drive is ~1 year old and I have successfully booted from it on my laptop, I have burned discs with it and I do not remember having any trouble with it, but it never worked as bootable drive with my D510MO board. I tried both Hardy and Lucid as well as Windows. None of them worked, so be aware that You might meet some obstacles with usb dvd drives, because I do not think that it was a problem with my drive. But the idea itself is very nice - attach dvd drive, install system and then remove the drive to save space. /vie -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
You can install Linux on your hard on another computer and then move your hard drive to this motherboard. Should work great. i On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Install Ubuntu (just basic installation of Hardy or Lucid) from usb-flash and then connect to internet and install EMC with a script - it will install also all the RTAI packages and everything else necessary for EMC. That is how I did on my D510MO based PC. /vie 2010/8/27 Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com: Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems.
Hi Andy: I may be showing my ignorance here, but while searching on your motherboard, because I'm about to do the same thing you are, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121399Tpk=D510MO Where's the parallel port? Am I missing something? Look at some posts last week we had some informative back and forth with links on this very subject. Andrew Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:08:02 +0100 From: Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com Subject: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: af3523a7303846fc9b25ca56960ec...@eeepc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
Andy, There is no reason why you cannot connect a Sata or USB CDROM drive to your system, install the OS and then remove the CDROM drive. Get the latest EMC2 live CD and boot the system off the CDROM drive, then have it load the system right off the live CD. You can't get any simpler than that. I have a portable USB CDROM drive that I use all of the time just for that purpose.But you could temporarily plug in a Sata CDROM also. The Pico power supplies work fine and so does the 510 board. Dave On 8/26/2010 5:08 PM, Andy Ibbotson wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems
On 26 August 2010 22:08, Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com wrote: I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have exactly the system you describe. I started with a VMWare Lucid install on my Mac (based on a downloaded ISO) I then used the Startup Disc Creator that is included in Lucid to make a bootable USB stick, (System-Administration-Startup Disk Creator) to make a bootable Lucid USB stick. I needed to make a couple of BIOS changes to get the system to boot from the rear-panel USB slots, but I think that the front panel header is meant to support USB drives by default. However that is unwired on mine (and probablu yours) and the others worked. I recall a bit of messing about to get the drive bootable, I think it has to be FAT16 for example. Once the machine is booted you can install from a script. You will soon be able to create a bootable Lucid USB stick from the LiveCD image, I think, which will save a few steps. Currently the LiveCD is Hardy, which has been perfectly OK as a CNC OS for the last couple of years. -- atp -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems.
Hi, It doesn't have one. You could use this one instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396 Cheers, Peter. Speaker To-Dirt wrote: Hi Andy: I may be showing my ignorance here, but while searching on your motherboard, because I'm about to do the same thing you are, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121399Tpk=D510MO Where's the parallel port? Am I missing something? Look at some posts last week we had some informative back and forth with links on this very subject. Andrew Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:08:02 +0100 From: Andy Ibbotson andyi_w...@btinternet.com Subject: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: af3523a7303846fc9b25ca56960ec...@eeepc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - http://www.homanndesigns.com -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems.
it does have a printer port header on the motherboard. sam On 8/26/2010 7:09 PM, Peter Homann wrote: Hi, It doesn't have one. You could use this one instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396 Cheers, Peter. Speaker To-Dirt wrote: Hi Andy: I may be showing my ignorance here, but while searching on your motherboard, because I'm about to do the same thing you are, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121399Tpk=D510MO Where's the parallel port? Am I missing something? Look at some posts last week we had some informative back and forth with links on this very subject. Andrew Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:08:02 +0100 From: Andy Ibbotsonandyi_w...@btinternet.com Subject: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:af3523a7303846fc9b25ca56960ec...@eeepc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - http://www.homanndesigns.com -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems.
Yup, I have one this mobo, and i add parallel port konnekor from old pc, like 386 PC. Kurniadi 2010/8/27 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com: it does have a printer port header on the motherboard. sam On 8/26/2010 7:09 PM, Peter Homann wrote: Hi, It doesn't have one. You could use this one instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396 Cheers, Peter. Speaker To-Dirt wrote: Hi Andy: I may be showing my ignorance here, but while searching on your motherboard, because I'm about to do the same thing you are, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121399Tpk=D510MO Where's the parallel port? Am I missing something? Look at some posts last week we had some informative back and forth with links on this very subject. Andrew Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:08:02 +0100 From: Andy Ibbotsonandyi_w...@btinternet.com Subject: [Emc-users] Mini ITX systems To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:af3523a7303846fc9b25ca56960ec...@eeepc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Everyone, I have a question re. systems built around mini ITX motherboards. What I have in mind is to build a system using the Intel D510MO motherboard (good choice re. latency?), picoPSU, solid state SATA disk. I want to minimise the size of the computer so no CD / DVD drives, my question is how do I get EMC2 on to the system? Can I install from a USB memory? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Andy -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - http://www.homanndesigns.com -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Igor: What model did you get? I was looking at this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396cm_re=Intel_D945GCLF2-_-13-131-396-_-Product Based on the numbers given here. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test I noted these numbers Intel D945GCLF2 mini-ITX Atom 330 2x 1.6Ghz 1 GB DDR 667Linux 2.6.30.5 + RTAI 3.7.1 with SMP support Max Interval (1.0 ms thread) 996381 Max Jitter(ns) 1.0 ms thread 5101 Max Interval (25 us thread) 30121 Max Jitter (25 us thread) 5428 I'd love to know what you have so I can use your experience to help which direction to go. Andrew Igor Chudov wrote: My old control box was, well, old and slow and had only 512 MB of RAM. So, I bought a bunch of parts on Newegg to build a small PC based on Mini ITX motherboard (really small, to fit into tthe cabinet). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Speaker To-Dirt speaker_2_d...@yahoo.com wrote: Igor: What model did you get? I was looking at this one. I assembled my own: Intel BOXDG41MJ LGA 775 Intel G41 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813121381 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Item #: N82E16820145184 [2] MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Case Fan Item #: N82E16835150007 Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale #: N82E16819115056 Unfortunately, one of the two memory sticks was bad, so I have to ship both back to Newegg, so I am stuck with the old computer until I get a replacement. The new one is 5x faster than the old one, core for core, and has two cores instead of one, so it has 10 times more capacity. Running latency test remotely through X windows, gives me max jitter of 19673 and 10839 ns. I am extremely satisfied with the form factor, it will sit nicely under the servo drives. I have two case fans, one sucks air in, and another pushes it out on the other side. I cannot yet give any conclusions. i http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396cm_re=Intel_D945GCLF2-_-13-131-396-_-Product Based on the numbers given here. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test I noted these numbers Intel D945GCLF2 mini-ITX Atom 330 2x 1.6Ghz 1 GB DDR 667 Linux 2.6.30.5 + RTAI 3.7.1 with SMP support Max Interval (1.0 ms thread) 996381 Max Jitter(ns) 1.0 ms thread 5101 Max Interval (25 us thread) 30121 Max Jitter (25 us thread) 5428 I'd love to know what you have so I can use your experience to help which direction to go. Andrew Igor Chudov wrote: My old control box was, well, old and slow and had only 512 MB of RAM. So, I bought a bunch of parts on Newegg to build a small PC based on Mini ITX motherboard (really small, to fit into tthe cabinet). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX Systems.
I have Intel D510MO Mini-ITX board with built-on dual-core Atom D510 1,6 GHz, 2GB RAM and 4GB CF card as a HDD. Max jitter for 1.0 ms servo thread is 7316 ns Max jitter for 25.0 us base thread is 8706 ns And it all is fitted in a selfmade case so that I can put it inside the control cabinet next to servo drives instead of having pc case outside of it, because there is not enough room for even a small mini-atx case. Viesturs 2010/8/20 Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Speaker To-Dirt speaker_2_d...@yahoo.com wrote: Igor: What model did you get? I was looking at this one. I assembled my own: Intel BOXDG41MJ LGA 775 Intel G41 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813121381 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Item #: N82E16820145184 [2] MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Case Fan Item #: N82E16835150007 Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale #: N82E16819115056 Unfortunately, one of the two memory sticks was bad, so I have to ship both back to Newegg, so I am stuck with the old computer until I get a replacement. The new one is 5x faster than the old one, core for core, and has two cores instead of one, so it has 10 times more capacity. Running latency test remotely through X windows, gives me max jitter of 19673 and 10839 ns. I am extremely satisfied with the form factor, it will sit nicely under the servo drives. I have two case fans, one sucks air in, and another pushes it out on the other side. I cannot yet give any conclusions. i http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396cm_re=Intel_D945GCLF2-_-13-131-396-_-Product Based on the numbers given here. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test I noted these numbers Intel D945GCLF2 mini-ITX Atom 330 2x 1.6Ghz 1 GB DDR 667 Linux 2.6.30.5 + RTAI 3.7.1 with SMP support Max Interval (1.0 ms thread) 996381 Max Jitter(ns) 1.0 ms thread 5101 Max Interval (25 us thread) 30121 Max Jitter (25 us thread) 5428 I'd love to know what you have so I can use your experience to help which direction to go. Andrew Igor Chudov wrote: My old control box was, well, old and slow and had only 512 MB of RAM. So, I bought a bunch of parts on Newegg to build a small PC based on Mini ITX motherboard (really small, to fit into tthe cabinet). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 20 August 2010 19:17, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: I have Intel D510MO Mini-ITX board with built-on dual-core Atom D510 Another vote for that board. Runs 10.04 and 2.4.1 nicely. It was cheap and is tiny. (also silent as it seems happy completely passively cooled with an 8GB SSD and a picoPSU -- atp -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Intel has discontinued the D945GCLF boards.. but a number of other board makers are still making Atom 330 based boards. The D510 board works well as does the Jetway D510 based board. Hard to beat for the price.. Dave On 8/20/2010 1:33 PM, Speaker To-Dirt wrote: Igor: What model did you get? I was looking at this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396cm_re=Intel_D945GCLF2-_-13-131-396-_-Product Based on the numbers given here. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test I noted these numbers Intel D945GCLF2 mini-ITX Atom 330 2x 1.6Ghz 1 GB DDR 667 Linux 2.6.30.5 + RTAI 3.7.1 with SMP support Max Interval (1.0 ms thread) 996381 Max Jitter(ns) 1.0 ms thread 5101 Max Interval (25 us thread) 30121 Max Jitter (25 us thread) 5428 I'd love to know what you have so I can use your experience to help which direction to go. Andrew Igor Chudov wrote: My old control box was, well, old and slow and had only 512 MB of RAM. So, I bought a bunch of parts on Newegg to build a small PC based on Mini ITX motherboard (really small, to fit into tthe cabinet). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mini ITX Systems.
I've also had good luck running EMC2 on LGA boards equipped with the Intel Celeron E3300 which I believe is sort of a cheap Core 2 Duo. In fact I have taken a hard drive setup to run EMC2 with Ubuntu 10.04 on a Atom 330 board and plugged it into a Celeron E3300 system and it boots right up. Nice... 1 Gig seems to be plenty to run EMC2 on. I have never seen memory usage go much above a couple hundred megs. Dave On 8/20/2010 1:44 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Speaker To-Dirt speaker_2_d...@yahoo.com wrote: Igor: What model did you get? I was looking at this one. I assembled my own: Intel BOXDG41MJ LGA 775 Intel G41 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813121381 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Item #: N82E16820145184 [2] MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Case Fan Item #: N82E16835150007 Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale #: N82E16819115056 Unfortunately, one of the two memory sticks was bad, so I have to ship both back to Newegg, so I am stuck with the old computer until I get a replacement. The new one is 5x faster than the old one, core for core, and has two cores instead of one, so it has 10 times more capacity. Running latency test remotely through X windows, gives me max jitter of 19673 and 10839 ns. I am extremely satisfied with the form factor, it will sit nicely under the servo drives. I have two case fans, one sucks air in, and another pushes it out on the other side. I cannot yet give any conclusions. i http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131396cm_re=Intel_D945GCLF2-_-13-131-396-_-Product Based on the numbers given here. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test I noted these numbers Intel D945GCLF2 mini-ITX Atom 330 2x 1.6Ghz 1 GB DDR 667Linux 2.6.30.5 + RTAI 3.7.1 with SMP support Max Interval (1.0 ms thread) 996381 Max Jitter(ns) 1.0 ms thread 5101 Max Interval (25 us thread) 30121 Max Jitter (25 us thread) 5428 I'd love to know what you have so I can use your experience to help which direction to go. Andrew Igor Chudov wrote: My old control box was, well, old and slow and had only 512 MB of RAM. So, I bought a bunch of parts on Newegg to build a small PC based on Mini ITX motherboard (really small, to fit into tthe cabinet). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: 1 Gig seems to be plenty to run EMC2 on. I have never seen memory usage go much above a couple hundred megs. I like to run all kinds of other things, like browser, XEmacs, terminals, etc. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Sure.. I just wanted to let you know that 1 gig wouldn't keep you from running EMC2. I oftentimes just put 2 gigs into each system also as memory is cheap. Dave On 8/20/2010 3:33 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: 1 Gig seems to be plenty to run EMC2 on. I have never seen memory usage go much above a couple hundred megs. I like to run all kinds of other things, like browser, XEmacs, terminals, etc. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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My current system has 512 MB. It works OK. i On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: 1 Gig seems to be plenty to run EMC2 on. I have never seen memory usage go much above a couple hundred megs. I like to run all kinds of other things, like browser, XEmacs, terminals, etc. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
