Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
Dave Engvall writes: ... > > BTW - I'm manually changing tools with the dual arm tool changer > similar to the one Stuart uses. > > But everyone has their preferred way to doing things and that is why > it is important to be able to change the post. ... Dave, Heehee, I have a tray of 40 taper holders, but twin arm toolchanger is also DNA enhanced. I will follow the link you kindly provided. Thanks! Tom -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
Look under /usr/weber/post_formats/EMC2 for the emc2 post files. For starters (npi) check out startup1 and startup2. I don't use some of the stuff in the startup file(s) My first few lines tends to be: G17G20G40G49G80G90 G0Z0M5 (MSG, LOAD TOOL) M0M6T1 with the tool change position in my .ini. BTW - I'm manually changing tools with the dual arm tool changer similar to the one Stuart uses. ;-) But everyone has their preferred way to doing things and that is why it is important to be able to change the post. :-) HTH Dave On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:49 PM, Tom wrote: > Dave Engvall writes: > > ... I have thoughts about getting a blog going and if so the > instructions >> for getting the correct contour will be there. >> >> Dave > > > Dave, Thanks for posting that. Based on what you did, I downloaded > the free > trial version of Synergy, and poked around a little. Do you have an > Emc2 > post configuration that you would be willing to share. I assume it > would > be a text file? > > Thanks, > Tom > > > > -- > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
Dave Engvall writes: ... I have thoughts about getting a blog going and if so the instructions > for getting the correct contour will be there. > > Dave Dave, Thanks for posting that. Based on what you did, I downloaded the free trial version of Synergy, and poked around a little. Do you have an Emc2 post configuration that you would be willing to share. I assume it would be a text file? Thanks, Tom -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Greg Michalski wrote: >When I saw the images I had a feeling it was for some style of >musket-loading pistol - very cool. Nice work and glad to see Synergy is >working well for you. Definitely start a blog of you work. Replica work >like this, though not the historically correct method used for the originals >is very cool and I for one would love to follow your work. > >Personally I'd like to get around to making up my own AR-15 receiver with >some flair (within the legal limits of personal use and not for sale - just >being clear so as not to get anyone's knickers in knots). Granted not as >historical as a musket but firearms are still a passion of mine regardless >of the genre. > >Of course since I finally had a legitimate way to bring up firearms and EMC >I now have the opportunity to tell Gene that I love the Ed Howdershelt quote >in the sig line :) Personally I've only used defenses one and two thus far, >someday (I'm a young'n in my mid-30s - lots of living left to do - I hope) Thanks for the flowers, and some of which (living) at 74, I have done. :) >maybe I'll be called upon for number three When you are young ane eligible, you just might. I got a letter for petit jury duty a couple of years ago, and was amazed that I was excused because of my age after I filled out the form and returned it. Darnit, I have more spare time than some poor schmuck who has to take a week off from work, losing several hundred dollars in income he probably sorely needs, and I think I can listen to the arguments as well as the next person (if they speak up that is, my hearing had been damaged by my hobbies). And I'm far more likely to consider jury nullification if the charges appear to be trumped up than some youngster with far less of lifes experience to judge things by. But I got the impression from reading between the lines that what they wanted were robots the judge could program than real, reasoning jurors. >but I sincerely pray I never need >to use four, especially for defense of freedom. > >Greg FWIW Greg, we have at least 200k men doing that right now, in Iraq and Afganistan amoung other places. But I don't for a minute believe that is what that particular quote meant when Ed wrote it. Much more along the lines of a rather famous half quote of Thomas Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time," and the rest of that comma terminated quote is "and God help us if we go 20 years without it." which does not get the well deserved ink the first half seems to get for free. That to me, is what the 2nd amendment is all about. The ability of the people to defend themselves from a government run amuck, is how I interpret the last box's meaning. Sorry about the rant folks, but no one who attacks the Bill of Rights ever gets a 2nd vote from me... [...] -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If it has syntax, it isn't user friendly. -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
When I saw the images I had a feeling it was for some style of musket-loading pistol - very cool. Nice work and glad to see Synergy is working well for you. Definitely start a blog of you work. Replica work like this, though not the historically correct method used for the originals is very cool and I for one would love to follow your work. Personally I'd like to get around to making up my own AR-15 receiver with some flair (within the legal limits of personal use and not for sale - just being clear so as not to get anyone's knickers in knots). Granted not as historical as a musket but firearms are still a passion of mine regardless of the genre. Of course since I finally had a legitimate way to bring up firearms and EMC I now have the opportunity to tell Gene that I love the Ed Howdershelt quote in the sig line :) Personally I've only used defenses one and two thus far, someday (I'm a young'n in my mid-30s - lots of living left to do - I hope) maybe I'll be called upon for number three but I sincerely pray I never need to use four, especially for defense of freedom. Greg -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gene.hesk...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:31 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM On Thursday 18 December 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: >Hi, >Finally got brave enough to try something with Synergy solids. > >The easy stuff was done in 2.5 D but the contour in the pic was done >with solids. > >Used a .500 roughing mill to rough and then a 0.500 ball end to >finish plus a bit of cleaning >up with a file and emery cloth. ;-) > >http://imagebin.ca/view/EGO40Lt.html > >http://imagebin.ca/view/dHfREsy.html > That is beautiful Dave. I need to do something similar with one of mine, but with a very abreviated rear end, just enough to let it be screwed to the stock. Thumbhole stocks don't leave a lot of room to be pretty behind the trigger guard as the rear screw flat is actually let into the front face of the pistol grip. I hammered up a couple of pieces of sheet brass, which looks redneck primitive. The other alternative would be to somehow extract the molded in guard from that Black Diamonds OEM plastic stock and let it into the bottom of that stick of maple its sitting in now. This hammered brass thingy is servicable, but has a quite low torr rating to its suction. BTW, I cut the group size that Black Diamond is shooting by 90% with one change. From only hitting an 8.5x11 target about half the time at 25 yards, to a 4", 10 shot group at 50 yards. I pulled the 209 breechplug and put a #11 nipple in. The #209 is way too much firepower, and is lifting the bullet free of the ramming before the powder gets lit, and that destroys the accuracy. The #11 percussion cap is not as strong and is more accurate because of that. Now if I could do that to my thumbhole stocked TC Omega. I made the breech with the #11 nipple ok, but its firing pin is so well centered it goes .065" deep into the middle of the nipple without firing the cap. Bummer. I need a missdrilled nipple I guess. Now back to our regularly scheduled topic, emc. Which, BTW, I used to make that breechplug for the T. C. Omega. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The real purpose of books is to trap the mind into doing its own thinking. -- Christopher Morley -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: >Hi, >Finally got brave enough to try something with Synergy solids. > >The easy stuff was done in 2.5 D but the contour in the pic was done >with solids. > >Used a .500 roughing mill to rough and then a 0.500 ball end to >finish plus a bit of cleaning >up with a file and emery cloth. ;-) > >http://imagebin.ca/view/EGO40Lt.html > >http://imagebin.ca/view/dHfREsy.html > That is beautiful Dave. I need to do something similar with one of mine, but with a very abreviated rear end, just enough to let it be screwed to the stock. Thumbhole stocks don't leave a lot of room to be pretty behind the trigger guard as the rear screw flat is actually let into the front face of the pistol grip. I hammered up a couple of pieces of sheet brass, which looks redneck primitive. The other alternative would be to somehow extract the molded in guard from that Black Diamonds OEM plastic stock and let it into the bottom of that stick of maple its sitting in now. This hammered brass thingy is servicable, but has a quite low torr rating to its suction. BTW, I cut the group size that Black Diamond is shooting by 90% with one change. From only hitting an 8.5x11 target about half the time at 25 yards, to a 4", 10 shot group at 50 yards. I pulled the 209 breechplug and put a #11 nipple in. The #209 is way too much firepower, and is lifting the bullet free of the ramming before the powder gets lit, and that destroys the accuracy. The #11 percussion cap is not as strong and is more accurate because of that. Now if I could do that to my thumbhole stocked TC Omega. I made the breech with the #11 nipple ok, but its firing pin is so well centered it goes .065" deep into the middle of the nipple without firing the cap. Bummer. I need a missdrilled nipple I guess. Now back to our regularly scheduled topic, emc. Which, BTW, I used to make that breechplug for the T. C. Omega. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The real purpose of books is to trap the mind into doing its own thinking. -- Christopher Morley -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 13:32 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> Could I get you to post a tool path picture? >> ( for ex. >> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Synergy/Screenshot-3b.png >> ) >> --- >> Kirk >> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > > Oops, your screen shot shows the projection plane (red) that I was > curious about. Never mind. Thanks. > > Kirk The red line is the boundary. I'm posting a side view of the tool paths rather than isometric as I think it illustrated the tool paths better. green = .500" SE rougher at 0.1" offset in z red = 0.500" ball end mill at 0.0 offset in z 1770 guns hardly count as an instrument of destruction; more like meat, shoes, and protection. Those were not nice times to live in. This will end up on a short barreled muzzleloader more like the jaeger the german immigrants brought with them but without the european style stock which is/was much less graceful than those of the American made guns. I have thoughts about getting a blog going and if so the instructions for getting the correct contour will be there. Dave > > > -- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 > to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http:// > 2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 13:32 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Could I get you to post a tool path picture? > ( for ex. > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Synergy/Screenshot-3b.png > ) > --- > Kirk > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Oops, your screen shot shows the projection plane (red) that I was curious about. Never mind. Thanks. Kirk -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 13:05 -0800, Dave Engvall wrote: > Hi, > Finally got brave enough to try something with Synergy solids. > > The easy stuff was done in 2.5 D but the contour in the pic was done > with solids. > > Used a .500 roughing mill to rough and then a 0.500 ball end to > finish plus a bit of cleaning > up with a file and emery cloth. ;-) > > http://imagebin.ca/view/EGO40Lt.html > > http://imagebin.ca/view/dHfREsy.html > > Dave Even though the part is for an instrument of destruction, that is an impressive creation. Bravo. Could I get you to post a tool path picture? ( for ex. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Synergy/Screenshot-3b.png ) --- Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
