Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sunday 14 December 2014 10:44:08 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine And Gene did reply: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard My best guess is that due to static while handling, that memory is duff, test with another known good stick, and follow static control procedures when you handle it after its been removed from its anti-static shipping bag. --- --- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg. clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2 bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in 25 years. Anytime something was screwed up, it was something I did. Also Keep in mind that some motherboards want a certain wattage Power Supply. My Daughter built a computer last year, i gave her a P.S. (450 watts), I had and it wouldn't boot, it was 50 watts less than the MB recommended, went to microcenter got a 700 watt and it has been fine. Good Luck. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote: In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS jumper in the reset position. That holds the system settings in a cleared and won't allow the system to start. You may want to check for that. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second. -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote: Is the memory in the right slot? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: kqt4a...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also tried B just for the hell of it :) As an act of desperation I tried clearing the cmos. Still no go. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
following this for a while ... but On 12/15/2014 02:43 PM, Matt Tucci wrote: 3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2 that is not correct. PCs do not boot into BIOS. BIOS is the code that runs self tests and initiate bootup from the selected peripheral. Some advanced BIOS boot mini version of Linux but that's not common unfortunately. Blame Microsoft. It's the BIOS code that makes beeps when self test detects an error. Beeps are somewhat standard. http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-beeps.htm bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in 25 years. Anytime something was screwed up, it was something I did. Also Keep in mind that some motherboards want a certain wattage Power Supply. My That statement is inaccurate. All motherboards require certain wattage whatever that be. It all depends on the chipset, type of memory and CPU. What's also important is peripherals such as disk drives, internal tape drives, video cards, etc. Daughter built a computer last year, i gave her a P.S. (450 watts), I had and it wouldn't boot, it was 50 watts less than the MB recommended, went to microcenter got a 700 watt and it has been fine. Good Luck. That's suspicious to me. My system with 4 core CPU, 12 GB of memory, and Nvidia video card is happy with 450W PSU. Unless that PC has more stuff in it, 450W should be sufficient. I work with 1U or 2U servers here and there and they do not use that much power, over 450W, with 2 multicore CPUs. http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote: In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS jumper in the reset position. That holds the system settings in a cleared and won't allow the system to start. You may want to check for that. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 Mixing old memory with new motherboard is most likely the issue here. Make sure you have memory type that manual recommends and your PC will help you cut material soon. -- Rafael -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On 12/15/2014 3:43 PM, Matt Tucci wrote: 3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2 bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in 25 years. I had one a few months ago that lasted just long enough to get Windows 8.1 installed. The replacement didn't last but a couple of minutes. So I sent the second one back for a refund and bought a completely different board from a different place and it's been working fine. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connnected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... He pulled it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports no vga signal. I think I am just screwed. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
Two bad motherboards are less likely than one bad DIMM. Yes, you wouldn't get video if the memory was bad---without memory, the system probably runs a limited amount of code from BIOS ROM, and stops trying to test and use memory, before initializing the video subsystem. Since memory costs around 10$/GB, I'd definitely try getting whatever DIMM ASROCK recommends and test with that. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:00 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... He pulled it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports no vga signal. I think I am just screwed. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
Is the memory in the right slot? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: kqt4a...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:00:35 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... He pulled it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports no vga signal. I think I am just screwed. You will not get video without memory... Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:00:35 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... He pulled it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports no vga signal. I think I am just screwed. You will not get video without memory... I am returning memory to friend and ordering new. Thanks -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote: Is the memory in the right slot? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: kqt4a...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also tried B just for the hell of it :) -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS jumper in the reset position. That holds the system settings in a cleared and won't allow the system to start. You may want to check for that. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second. -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote: Is the memory in the right slot? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: kqt4a...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also tried B just for the hell of it :) -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote: In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS jumper in the reset position. That holds the system settings in a cleared and won't allow the system to start. You may want to check for that. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second. -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote: Is the memory in the right slot? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: kqt4a...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote: Peter is right. You need to read the manual. Motherboards beep in codes on startup if something is wrong. Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB? I think the 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply. Otherwise beep code! Dave On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back. Richard The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code. The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also tried B just for the hell of it :) As an act of desperation I tried clearing the cmos. Still no go. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On 12/14/2014 9:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the internet, if you don't have a manual. Peter Without the RAM installed, all the beeps will tell you is there's no RAM. One of those tell me something I don't already know bleedin obvious error messages. ;) Kind of like how pre-1996 GM cars if you shorted the contacts in the ALDL and the only code the light blinked was 12, telling you the engine isn't running. Useless when you're attempting to discover *why* the engine will not run. When troubleshooting a PC board that won't boot, the first thing is to install the minimum amount of supported RAM. If the CPU is removable, you'll need one you know is supported by an older BIOS. Typically the BIOS chip will have a label with the revision number installed at manufacture. If that one doesn't support the CPU you want to use but a newer version does, you'll have to scrounge up an older/slower CPU just to use for updating the BIOS. Some boards will go ahead and boot with an unrecognized CPU but will lock to a slow speed and may also prevent any setup changes. But for a RAM configuration that's not supported, not going to boot. Get a POST (Power On Self Test) card. They have two 7-segment LED displays that cycle through 2 digit hexadecimal numbers during POST and should end on FF (a few manufacturers don't end POST with FF), followed by beginning to boot the operating system. If it stops partway through, the code it stops on, or the one just before it stops, will tell you what may be holding it up. 'Course if it's a non-removable part the board is toast, unless you want to ship it off to someone with an SMT rework setup and can find replacement components. If the POST display instantly goes to FF when you hit the power button, that's most likely a bad CPU, or something major wrong with the board, such as a way out of spec or non-functioning power supply to the CPU. A POST card can be bought for a few dollars and can be very helpful, especially when you need to prove that a brand new motherboard is defekt. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
On 12/14/2014 11:00 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote: I guess I would start to suspect that you free RAM was bad... He pulled it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports no vga signal. I think I am just screwed. No memory = no worky. ;P A computer must have functional RAM in a supported configuration, and it must have a functional CPU that is supported both by the hardware and by the power supply capability of the board. The CPU and RAM and some other parts have to pass the POST before the system gets around to looking for and turning on video. Something else to check, both Intel and AMD have produced various CPUs that will plug into sockets they are not at all compatible with. If you are lucky all that will happen is the computer will do nothing instead of destroying the CPU with too much power or power applied to data connections. I've been working with and on PC systems for 32 years now, seen a lot of crazy things with the hardware. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
