Re: [Enigmail] Problems with Mint Debian
I went through most of those procedures where appropriate, disabling the gnome keyring etc. but to no avail. It's possible I was not doing everything correctly - most of it was strange to me. However, without changing anything else at all, I installed Claws Mail, told it to use agent in the settings, and it worked perfectly- so the obvious answer is to use Claws mail - certainly for anything encrypted, so that is what I will do. Thanks for the help, anyway. Regards, Bob On 22/11/2016 4:46 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 22.11.16 14:09, Bob Henson wrote: >> I didn't have a problem with Thunderbird/Enigmail and LDME until a >> recent LMDE re-installation and update - so I was hoping someone would >> be able tell me what has changed. I used to get an gpg agent error >> message on first use - but before it just carried on and worked anyway. > I'd suggest you follow my "Guide for resolving issues with GnuPG 2.x and > gpg-agent". > > http://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=category=11 > > Scroll down to Troubleshooting. > > -Patrick > > > > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Problems with Mint Debian
On 22/11/2016 11:40 am, Mike Acker wrote: > > > On 11/22/2016 06:00 AM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote: >> LMDE is not production ready (and neither are the other editions >> of Linux Mint), even if it looks pretty. > > > I disagree with these remarks. I'm using LMDE/2 (Betsy) today -- and > have been using it since it cleared Beta. Of the MINT varieties I > get the best results from the LMDE/2 Quite. It runs considerably faster than Debian Stable, has more facilities, and is generally much *more* fit for purpose - Debian Stable is so old-fashioned it's not true. Even with the problems it has the Mint version (I use the Mate version) it is much better. > > I have MINT 18 Cinamon as well as MINT 18 KDE installed on my test > box; both have trouble with some applications > > as far as GPG/2 goes -- just check your system at command line using > GPG2 --version. if it's not installed just do an apt/get and > install it. T-Bird shoud pick it up automatically Mine shows gpg2 present, and enigmail finds it automatically. I'm not very technical - but it does point to /usr/bin/gpg2 which is a library (?) not an executable - the nearby exectutable is gpg (1.x) - but Enigmail refuses to talk to that at all. > > as far as T-Bird goes I've had trouble with the GPG interface "off > and on".IMHO I suspect it's because "AFAIK" T-Bird does not use > the GPGME interface. > > I've been experimenting with both CLAWS e/mail as well as Evolution. > For Linux users it might be best to get away from T-Bird -- although > the T-Bird that I have now -- 45.5.0 -- works fine with LMDE/2 and > GPG/2 I didn't have a problem with Thunderbird/Enigmail and LDME until a recent LMDE re-installation and update - so I was hoping someone would be able tell me what has changed. I used to get an gpg agent error message on first use - but before it just carried on and worked anyway. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
[Enigmail] Problems with Mint Debian
Having used it before with no problems, I am getting an error using Enigmail/GnuPG2 on Thunderbird running under a new install of Linux Mint Debian Edition. All appears welluntil I come to send a message and I get the error message:- "GnuPG reports an error in the communication with gpg-agent (a component of GnuPG)." "This is a system setup or configuration error that prevents Enigmail from working properly and cannot be fixed automatically." I have had similar errors in the past concerning gpg-agent, but Enigmail has gone on to work correctly - presumably using the Linux key-ring? I'm not too technical, so I'm not quite sure why this error hasarisen when it never did before. Can you tell me where I should start looking for an answer - LMDE, Enigamil, or GnuPG? Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Rules for attaching public key
On 01/06/2016 6:32 pm, Hakuch wrote: > are there any possibilities to create rules for public key attaching? > Currently, I send always my public key to everyone, even if I sent it > already 2000 times to a specific person. Why not just put your key number in your signature and let them get it from a keyserver if they want it? Regards, Bob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27
On 20/03/2015 10:01 pm, Olav Seyfarth wrote: installed GnupG 2.0.27, via Gpg4Win 2.2.4 reason is, that GnuPG 2.0.27 errors out if it detects keys using MD5. Workaround: use allow-weak-digest-algos in Enigmail or gpg.conf Is there a method to search for such keys? I definitely *don't know whether this is correct*, but what I did is gpg --list-key 0x This, in my case, *seemes* to list all affected keys. Don't ask me why. I stumbled upon it while I got displayed keys with FPR all zero... I exported these keys to be able to roll back ... gpg --export 0x md5_keys.gpg ... and deleted them manually by executing this as long as it still found some: gpg --delete-keys 0x After that cleanup, I had no more errors even without allow-weak-digest-algos . That worked fine. Deletion was a shade more complex as two old Thawtes keys had private keys, but all is now well. Thanks again, Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27
On 21/03/2015 9:57 am, Olav Seyfarth wrote: pre wrap Hi Bob, /preblockquote type=citepre wrap Deletion was a shade more complex as two old Thawtes keys had private keys, but all is now well. Thanks again, /pre/blockquotepre wrap So, how did you solve that? I also had two secret keys, now removed. I'd like to restore them, but how to ged rid of MD5 there? prefs? I'm afraid I can't work that out - I'm not very technical, sadly. As I no longer need the keys, I just removed them. When I ran the delete command, it removed the public keys but not the private ones, so the two that had public keys only partially deleted (?). I got interrupted in the middle of doing it, so I wasn't paying enough attention - but there was a message telling me to run the secret key removal command (can't remember it) first. As I had already run the delete, it was too late. I thought I would then just delete the whole thing using the Enigmail Key manager, but they refused to delete. I restored them from the back up (the public parts only seemed to re-import) and then using Key Manager to delete them altogether. I still have the backup, but I think that only saved the public keys? Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27
On 21/03/2015 10:36 am, Olav Seyfarth wrote: Hi Patrick, I'm thinking about adding --allow-weak-digest-algos to the GnuPG parameters if GnuPG 2.0.27 is detected. Would you think this is a good idea to get rid of the problem -- or this just postponing the problem? Please don't. MD5 IS an issue and should not be trusted by default. Same line of thinking as with the red warning about unencrypted messages. We should provide (or link to) a help/FAQ page how to solve it. Olav That would seem best to me too, a note somewhere about the workaround would be the way to go. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
[Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27
I just installed the new GnupG 2.0.27, via Gpg4Win 2.2.4 vanilla. I couldnot access the Enigmail key management window at all - getting the following error message:- error The spinner was indicating that it was trying to load the keys, but nothing happenedafter a considerable wait. I reinstalled it over itself to no avail. I re-installed 2.0.26 via Gpg4Win 2.2.3 and all was immediately restored to full functioning . Not being very technical, I have no idea why this should be but thought it would be of interest, and that someone might know why? I'm not currently connected to the GPG4Win forum, so I can't say if it has been mentioned in there. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27
On 18/03/2015 12:57 pm, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: On 18.03.15 12:11, Bob Henson wrote: I just installed the new GnupG 2.0.27, via Gpg4Win 2.2.4 vanilla. I couldnot access the Enigmail key management window at all - getting the following error message:- error The spinner was indicating that it was trying to load the keys, but nothing happenedafter a considerable wait. I reinstalled it over itself to no avail. I re-installed 2.0.26 via Gpg4Win 2.2.3 and all was immediately restored to full functioning . Not being very technical, I have no idea why this should be but thought it would be of interest, and that someone might know why? I'm not currently connected to the GPG4Win forum, so I can't say if it has been mentioned in there. The deeper reason is, that GnuPG 2.0.27 errors out if it detects weak digest algorithms. They are used on older keys, having the MD5 hash. See the release notes for 2.0.27: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2015q1/000362.html This behaviour prohibits loading the key list, as Enigmail respects the exit code of GnuPG and thinks, there is a serious error and no usable output. So, this is no bug which was introduced with Enigmail 1.8, you would certainly get the same behaviour with 1.7.2. As a first aid, this can be fixed by the following procedure: Open Enigmail - Preferences. Ensure the Advanced tab is shown. If not, click on Show Expert Settings and Menues. Select the Advanced tab. Put the following in the field Additional parameters for GnuPG: --allow-weak-digest-algos OK, I'll use that for the moment whilst I work out which of the keyring have the old hash. Thanks for the help. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 05/02/2015 6:55 am, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: On 04.02.15 20:16, Bob Henson wrote: On 04/02/2015 5:13 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: We recently discussed in (a part of) the Enigmail team that we should think about giving up support for GnuPG 1.4.x. Hmm - just tried the GPG4Win installer - it won't allow the installation of GnuPG without Kleopatra too and Kleopatra is very, very flaky under Windows 64 bit. I think before you drop support of 1.4 you should wait until there is a standalone official version GnuPG 2.0 for Windows. Excuse me but that's rubish. You can install gpg4win-vanilla, which delivery only GnuPG and pinentry, no other tools. That's what Enigmail downloads in the Wizard. P.S. I've got it to work OK now. I set the preferences to override gpg.exe with gpg2.exe and the top GPG was found in line duly changed to reflect that. I assumed that it would stay that way and unticked the override, and Enigmail reverted itself to use gpg.exe. I had assumed, incorrectly, it turned out, that once it was set it would stay set. All appears to be fine now. Regards, Bob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 04/02/2015 8:15 pm, Doug Barton wrote: On 2/4/15 11:16 AM, Bob Henson wrote: On 04/02/2015 5:13 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: We recently discussed in (a part of) the Enigmail team that we should think about giving up support for GnuPG 1.4.x. Hmm - just tried the GPG4Win installer - it won't allow the installation of GnuPG without Kleopatra too and Kleopatra is very, very flaky under Windows 64 bit. I am not sure where you are getting your information. I have used the Gpg4win-Light installer (which does not include Kleopatra) successfully on 64-bit Windows 7, and on XP before that, for many years. Doug I had the full version here, and tried to install from that. I've got the vanilla version now, and have installed it - although I can't get the system to use it yet. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] GnuPG 2.0 for Windows
On 05/02/2015 10:52 am, Werner Koch wrote: If there is a problem with Kleopatra you may instead use GPA - just do not install Kleopatra, use a registry setting, or delete the Kleopatra binary. Except for some minor things GPA provide the same functionally (called the UI-Server) and in addition it has a full fledged card manager which Kleopatra is missing. I won't go on at length because we're off topic in this list, but when I tried the full installer yesterday the installer would not let me install GnuPG without Kleopatra. As Kleopatra used to regularly completely hang on my system, I'd rather not do that - albeit it was better the last time I tried it. Samir told me about vanilla installer and I have used that successfully. The rumors that Gpg4win does not work on 64 bit Windows may come from two issues: - GpgEx - The explorer extension was not available for 64 bit Windows until one the last versions (~ 2013). - GpgOL - The Outlook extensions does not work with a 64 bit Outlook. Everything else works in the same way as all other 32 bit Windows applications continue to work on 64 bit Windows. I was using 64bit Outlook with GPG4Win, and GPGol was unusable - also causing the system to hang completely. Perhaps it was GpGol that was causing the problems with Kleopatra - I don't know. All I can say is I tried every version as they came out and none would work at all, until the last version I tried - which was usable most of the time. However, I abandoned it because (and this *is* on topic) messages written using GPGol caused an error whereby Enigmail on other systems couldn't handle the output from GPG4Win correctly. It was a while back and my old brain can't remember precisely what the problem was (we discussed it at the time, so perhaps you remember?) - but GPG4Win was not being precise about something that Patrick was. It was about that point I got tired of Outlook (again) and switched finally back to Thunderbird/Enigmail. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 04/02/2015 5:13 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: We recently discussed in (a part of) the Enigmail team that we should think about giving up support for GnuPG 1.4.x. There may be a few problems with Windows users only being able to get GnuPG 2.x as part of GPG4Win - that might put many people off using it. I'm not use how well it functions on 64 bit Windows systems - it certainly failed here when I tried it some time back - but maybe that was probably GPG4Win not GnuPG - it was very flaky. I can't remember what the problem was so I'll have a go at installing just GnuPG and see what happens - maybe all is OK now. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 04/02/2015 5:13 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: We recently discussed in (a part of) the Enigmail team that we should think about giving up support for GnuPG 1.4.x. Hmm - just tried the GPG4Win installer - it won't allow the installation of GnuPG without Kleopatra too and Kleopatra is very, very flaky under Windows 64 bit. I think before you drop support of 1.4 you should wait until there is a standalone official version GnuPG 2.0 for Windows. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 04/02/2015 7:27 pm, Samir Nassar wrote: On Wednesday, February 04, 2015 07:16:26 PM Bob Henson wrote: Hmm - just tried the GPG4Win installer - it won't allow the installation of GnuPG without Kleopatra too and Kleopatra is very, very flaky under Windows 64 bit. I think before you drop support of 1.4 you should wait until there is a standalone official version GnuPG 2.0 for Windows. Did you try the Vanilla installer? http://files.gpg4win.org/gpg4win-vanilla-2.2.3.exe This install gnupg only. Samir Hmm. I just gave it a try and it seems to be fine - however, I sent myself a test message and when I had a look at the details it said :- Version: GnuPG v1 All I did was changed Enigmail to use gpg2.exe instead of gpg.exe - maybe I need to do more than just that to get it to use v2 ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Medium Term Plan for Dropping GnuPG 1.4.x Support
On 04/02/2015 7:27 pm, Samir Nassar wrote: pre wrap On Wednesday, February 04, 2015 07:16:26 PM Bob Henson wrote: /preblockquote type=citepre wrap Hmm - just tried the GPG4Win installer - it won't allow the installation of GnuPG without Kleopatra too and Kleopatra is very, very flaky under Windows 64 bit. I think before you drop support of 1.4 you should wait until there is a standalone official version GnuPG 2.0 for Windows. /pre/blockquotepre wrap Did you try the Vanilla installer? http://files.gpg4win.org/gpg4win-vanilla-2.2.3.exe This install gnupg only. I didn't know about that - I'll give it a try. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] how to turn off constant dialog prompt by Enigmail in background?
On 19/12/2014 10:13 am, Roland Siemons wrote: Terry, I have the same problem. I remember the issue was debated some time ago, e.g. by bob.hen...@galen.org.uk (topic: Odd behaviour of Enigmail 1.7.2). I did not see an answer. Perhaps anyone knows which settig should be adapted in Thunderbird? Please advise! Roland On 16/12/2014 16:40, terrygal...@mailbolt.com wrote: Hi, Enigmail keeps popping up a dialog This email address has not been configured ..., grabbing focus, and forcing a switch to the dialog in Tbird for an unfinished/unsent email even when TBird is in the background. How do I turn this incessant prompting off? I don't recall the conversation - but it sounds to me as though the OP has not set his Thunderbird account to use Enigmail. Tools Account Settings Select the account OpenPGP security Tick - Enable OpenPGP support (Enigmail) for this identity. Add any other details required. Regards, Bob P.S. top posting messes up the quoting as above. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] how to turn off constant dialog prompt by Enigmail in background?
On 19/12/2014 3:27 pm, terrygal...@mailbolt.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014, at 07:23 AM, Bob Henson wrote: Enable it, and then don't use it. Simples! Tchk! Or, remove the broken software. Simpler! Tchk! My apologies to everyone else reading - had I realised I was talking to a Troll I wouldn't have bothered replying ni the first place. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] GnuPG 2.1.0
On 06/11/2014 2:52 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: pre wrap On 11/06/2014 06:11 AM, Bob Henson wrote: /preblockquote type=citepre wrap I hear this morning that there is a new GnuPG 2.1.0 version which is quite different from the 2.0.x versions. Will Enigmail continue to work with this new version? /pre/blockquotepre wrap Yes, i've been running enigmail 1.7.2 with the series of GnuPG 2.1.0 betas for over a month now. I don't expect that the official release version of 2.1.0 will cause a regression with respect to enigmail functionality. Note: I run debian testing/unstable, using the gnupg 2.1.0 packages from experimental (which i plan to update to the released version later today). Thanks. I imagine that will also apply to the Windows port too. Regards, Bob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] GnuPG 2.1.0
On 06/11/2014 4:55 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: Thanks. I imagine that will also apply to the Windows port too. puts on official Enigmail hat At present, we do not recommend using GnuPG 2.1 with Enigmail. There are a couple of problems with it which we believe will seriously impact many users' experiences. All new software has bugs, and GnuPG 2.1 is no exception. We believe these issues will soon be patched. But for now, Windows users should continue to use GPG4WIN. /takes off official hat Puts on clown's hat.. What can go wrong, I thought - if it works on Linux... Wrong - it refused to read in the keyring, and worse than that screwed everything up irretrievably. Note for future reference - wait a bit longer for Robert J to reply :-( Takes off clowns hat ... I had a backup! I've gone back to 1.4. Thanks for the help. Regards, Bob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Odd behaviour of Enigmail 1.7.2
On 04/10/2014 7:46 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: Hi Bob, On 25.09.14 17:38, Bob Henson wrote: I've just started using Thunderbird/Enigmail again and am seeing an od d thing. I have Enigmail set to neither sign nor encrypt mail unless I manually tell it to. When replying to a newsgroup messageor e-mail, th e Enigmail Key Selection window pops up. This is apparently random - but may be time related as I've only noticed it when I've been typing for some time. Both the message recipient not valid, trusted or not found , and my Newsgroup signing key number are shown top left (even on e-mail ), the send encrypted box is ticked, and to get the message to send it is necessary to tick the force not to encrypt box - although encryptio n is not selected by me, nor shown to be selected in the drop-down menus . It just happenedwhilst I was typing this, and still included my newsgroup key, even though I'm not using my newsgroup e-mail address. I clicked Forced not to encrypt and then a couple of moments later the window popped up again, even though force not to encrypt was still ticked. Any ideas what's going on - is this a known bug? The behaviour regarding unwanted encryption of newsgroup postings was reported by Matthew Woehlke on this list on October 1st, but I cannot reproduce it. I have recently discovered the reason for it, and have been trying it for a few days to make sure the behaviour did not recur before adding a comment to my original message - as no-one had replied I wasn't hurrying. I believe it was due to having ticked Use PGP/Mime by Default in the Thunderbird account settings, since I never use in-line PGP. I did not have any other defaults set so, logically, I assumed the PGP/Mime setting would only be invoked when I manually selected signing or encrypting later on. These were the settings I thought I had used with the old versions of Enigmail and they did not have the problem, so when I set it up again, I did the same. I unticked all the Use PGP/Mime by Default radio buttons in all my accounts, and the odd behaviour went away, and has not returned. Now, of course, when I do want to sign or encrypt I have to select PGP/Mime manually as well, as the setting has reverted to using in-line as the default. I must say that the new Enigmail is much more unnecessarily complicated to set up and to use than the old one - and I cannot see the reason for the changes. I'm sure there is one, but the new, cumbersome selection options in the Write window headers are a step in the wrong direction. Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Odd behaviour of Enigmail 1.7.2
On 05/10/2014 12:36 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: On 05.10.14 10:54, Bob Henson wrote: I must say that the new Enigmail is much more unnecessarily complicated to set up and to use than the old one - and I cannot see the reason for the changes. I'm sure there is one, but the new, cumbersome selection options in the Write window headers are a step in the wrong direction. The reason is that we wanted to be more explicit about what is going on. Whether or not an email is encrypted (or signed) depends on several sometimes contradictory rule-sets. The most important are: * global defaults * account-specific defaults * per-recipient rules * whether or not you reply to an encrypted mail In previous versions of Enigmail, you could enable encryption manually, and yet your email was sent unencrypted (or vice versa). We thought that this is difficult to understand. If you have suggestions for how to improve the menu entries, we will gladly listen. I just think that they have been made unnecessarily complicated. In the Thunderbird account settings the default settings are fine, except that enabling Use PGP/MIME by Default causes the problem about which I wrote initially if enabled on it's own - so it probably should be greyed out unless one of the other default items is ticked. If it's a bug and shouldn't act as it does, then obviously it needs fixing. I cannot see that the options under After application of defaults and rules are of any use at all - if the defaults and rules have already been applied these two options seem irrelevant to me - maybe there are reasons I cannot see? The per-recipient rules make sense to me, and if they override all other settings should create no problems. The Thunderbird Write window is unnecessarily confusing and duplications abound. I cannot see any point whatever in having the Enigmail encryption and signing settings menu that drops down from clicking the Enigmail button, and I would remove it altogether. The drop down at the side of the button only needs to have on/off toggles for Sign, Encrypt, and Use PGP/MIME - for people like me to override all previous default other settings, or lack of settings, in my case. That's all I ever used to use, except for a couple of per-recipient rules. The overcomplicated drop down is more or less duplicated in the Enimail Menu bar button in the Write window, so those could be removed to simplify matters - particular the strange and even more unnecessary submenus that pop out from the first three items. I'm sure there are reasons for some of these - but I cannot see them. Basically, what I am saying is that it was fine before it was altered and has been for years. You said that, before, In previous versions of Enigmail, you could enable encryption manually, and yet your email was sent unencrypted (or vice versa). We thought that this is difficult to understand. I cannot understand this as I never noticed a problem before. However if it was a bug, then it just needed fixing. Perhaps, I'm missing something though - I'm getting a bit old now :-) Regards, Bob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
[Enigmail] Odd behaviour of Enigmail 1.7.2
I've just started using Thunderbird/Enigmail again and am seeing an odd thing. I have Enigmail set to neither sign nor encrypt mail unless I manually tell it to. When replying to a newsgroup messageor e-mail, the Enigmail Key Selection window pops up. This is apparently random - but may be time related as I've only noticed it when I've been typing for some time. Both the message recipient not valid, trusted or not found, and my Newsgroup signing key number are shown top left (even on e-mail), the send encrypted box is ticked, and to get the message to send it is necessary to tick the force not to encrypt box - although encryption is not selected by me, nor shown to be selected in the drop-down menus. It just happenedwhilst I was typing this, and still included my newsgroup key, even though I'm not using my newsgroup e-mail address. I clicked Forced not to encrypt and then a couple of moments later the window popped up again, even though force not to encrypt was still ticked. Any ideas what's going on - is this a known bug? Regards, Bob ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
