Re: [E-devel] E16.8 & Rox : ghosts windows ?
Julien wrote: Hello, I've got a bug with e16's current cvs while running ROX-Filer, and only the filer, I don't use the pinboard, the session nor the panel. And this is the only app I've seen this bug appear. When I rename a file with ROX, I very often -near every time- come up with some kind of "ghost" window. A "move" window is opened after clicking the ok button to rename the file, but disappears near the same time. That might be the problem : e thinking the window is created while it's already been destroyed ? I tried to kill the rox process : no effect. I tried to xkill the window : nothing (no resource). The window isn't related to any running process. It doesn't exists anymore actually, except for e. If i restart e, the "ghost" window disappears. Sometime when reproducing it, e crashes or freezes... I can't reproduce that. I always see the "move" window being properly mapped and unmapped. Probably some race condition, as you suggest. If you could run e16 with $ EDBUG_FLAGS=16:17:18:19:20:128 e16 and mail me the log, that would be most helpful. The interesting part is what happens after pressing "Rename" in the Rename box. /Kim --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16.8 & Rox : ghosts windows ?
Kim Woelders wrote: Julien wrote: Hello, I've got a bug with e16's current cvs while running ROX-Filer, and only the filer, I don't use the pinboard, the session nor the panel. And this is the only app I've seen this bug appear. When I rename a file with ROX, I very often -near every time- come up with some kind of "ghost" window. A "move" window is opened after clicking the ok button to rename the file, but disappears near the same time. That might be the problem : e thinking the window is created while it's already been destroyed ? I tried to kill the rox process : no effect. I tried to xkill the window : nothing (no resource). The window isn't related to any running process. It doesn't exists anymore actually, except for e. If i restart e, the "ghost" window disappears. Sometime when reproducing it, e crashes or freezes... I can't reproduce that. I always see the "move" window being properly mapped and unmapped. Probably some race condition, as you suggest. If you could run e16 with $ EDBUG_FLAGS=16:17:18:19:20:128 e16 and mail me the log, that would be most helpful. The interesting part is what happens after pressing "Rename" in the Rename box. Never mind. I believe it is fixed now. /Kim --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Evidence enters loop...
When started with shelf (-S)evidence entered in a endless loop. It was looking for one of my files in dnd.c. This was fixed by removing .evidence The bug is not reproducable ;-(. I hope this can proove helpfull. Till P.S.: would it be possible to see the output of the commands typed in the type buffer? P.P.S: Great job on evidence. It's just... up to enlightenment's DR 17 standards (and that means a lot). --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Wiki
On a totally different point then my previous post: I think an enlightenment wiki would be interesting. Since everybody agrees there is a great lack of documentation a wiki would prove really helpfull. Regards, Till --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:33:35 +0100 till varoquaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On a totally different point then my previous post: > I think an enlightenment wiki would be interesting. Since everybody > agrees there is a great lack of documentation a wiki would prove really > helpfull. > Regards, > Till http://www.enlightenment.org/t/ we're testing out drupal - but right now we dont have manpower or people willing to work on a cms for e.org to make this happen. i've done some of the work - but there's a lot more to do. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 09:33 pm, till varoquaux wrote: > I think an enlightenment wiki would be interesting. Since everybody > agrees there is a great lack of documentation a wiki would prove really > helpfull. i hate wiki's ... rarely do i find them the least bit useful either in content or in presentation but thats me -mike --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Wednesday, 05 January 2005, at 11:36:32 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > http://www.enlightenment.org/t/ > > we're testing out drupal - but right now we dont have manpower or > people willing to work on a cms for e.org to make this happen. i've > done some of the work - but there's a lot more to do. I've been very impressed with Tikiwiki. It has a sane Wiki implementation along with a complete, robust CMS and modules for articles, FAQ's, site directories, task management, ticket tracking, forums, file/image galleries, user/team web logs, live support, and a bunch more. We're now using it for the cAos wiki (though without many of the addons): https://wiki.caosity.org/ Their site is: http://tikiwiki.org/ Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "I gave you my purity, and my purity you stole. Did you think I wouldn't recognize this compromise? Am I just to stupid to realize? Stale incense, old sweat, and lies, lies, lies." -- Nine Inch Nails, "sin" --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
I like wikis but it depends very much on the people behind them. Wikis provide a more formal format than forums and offer a better presentation in my opinion. Personally I hate digging through forums and mailing archives. A wiki allows you to present important discussions and detailed issues in a more organized format. A wiki fills a certain gap with documentation. Questions such as "Why the binary config format?" and others that deserve a full answer supported by different opinions is best presented by a wiki. This could go in the FAQ but to do full justice to the question it would span quite a bit of the FAQ. There are other fundamental design issues that ought to go into a wiki sort of format to preserve their importance and maintain a logical argument for their existence. With the forum/mailing system these issues are quickly lost in the past and inevitably arise again when someone new (or forgetful) brings up the same issue. Anyhow, for an example of a well developed wiki see: http://wiki.osafoundation.org I did some wiki experiments a while ago; here are a few of my reactions: TikiWiki - Full featured but a bit cluttered looking and complex, well known and has a large community MediaWiki - Clean and Stable but lacking some features such as file upload other than pictures (wikipedia) Kwiki - A simple clean wiki, modular design DokuWiki - Another wiki designed for documentation that has a nice clean feel Not Recommended: Phpwiki - Seemed a bit buggy and I've seen errors from sites that use phpwiki, not particularly feature full anyway MoinMoin - A bit harder to install because its python based, I found some design quirks annoying, not all that bad though, just not great. Arlo --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:47:51 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Wednesday, 05 January 2005, at 11:36:32 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/t/ > > > > we're testing out drupal - but right now we dont have manpower or > > people willing to work on a cms for e.org to make this happen. i've > > done some of the work - but there's a lot more to do. > > I've been very impressed with Tikiwiki. It has a sane Wiki > implementation along with a complete, robust CMS and modules for > articles, FAQ's, site directories, task management, ticket tracking, > forums, file/image galleries, user/team web logs, live support, and a > bunch more. We're now using it for the cAos wiki (though without many > of the addons): > > https://wiki.caosity.org/ > > Their site is: > > http://tikiwiki.org/ hmm. willing to try it out... does it require mysql like god damn everything else? -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:38:19 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 09:33 pm, till varoquaux wrote: > > I think an enlightenment wiki would be interesting. Since everybody > > agrees there is a great lack of documentation a wiki would prove really > > helpfull. > > i hate wiki's ... rarely do i find them the least bit useful either in content > or in presentation true - but we need a way to make it easier to manage/access e.org, update it with multiple people doing it. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:27:06 -0800 Arlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > I like wikis but it depends very much on the people behind them. Wikis > provide a more formal format than forums and offer a better presentation > in my opinion. Personally I hate digging through forums and mailing > archives. A wiki allows you to present important discussions and > detailed issues in a more organized format. > > > A wiki fills a certain gap with documentation. Questions such as "Why > the binary config format?" and others that deserve a full answer > supported by different opinions is best presented by a wiki. This could > go in the FAQ but to do full justice to the question it would span quite > a bit of the FAQ. There are other fundamental design issues that ought > to go into a wiki sort of format to preserve their importance and > maintain a logical argument for their existence. With the forum/mailing > system these issues are quickly lost in the past and inevitably arise > again when someone new (or forgetful) brings up the same issue. > > Anyhow, for an example of a well developed wiki see: > http://wiki.osafoundation.org > > I did some wiki experiments a while ago; here are a few of my reactions: > TikiWiki - Full featured but a bit cluttered looking and complex, well > known and has a large community > MediaWiki - Clean and Stable but lacking some features such as file > upload other than pictures (wikipedia) > Kwiki - A simple clean wiki, modular design > DokuWiki - Another wiki designed for documentation that has a nice clean > feel > > Not Recommended: > Phpwiki - Seemed a bit buggy and I've seen errors from sites that use > phpwiki, not particularly feature full anyway > MoinMoin - A bit harder to install because its python based, I found > some design quirks annoying, not all that bad though, just not great. i was looking mainly at cms's as they provide an even more structured/organised way of dealing with web site content. they can act as wikis as such but are more geared to site content management than discussion management. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
On Wednesday, 05 January 2005, at 12:22:35 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > http://tikiwiki.org/ > > hmm. willing to try it out... does it require mysql like god damn > everything else? Yes, so if that's an issue for you, don't bother with it. But you'll be hard-pressed to find a CMS that's both feature-rich and flat-file-based. What's your objection to a MySQL backend? Do you dislike the DB overhead, or is there something with MySQL in particular? I believe Tikiwiki supports several different backends. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "You know the real reason God kicked Adam & Eve Consulting Associates LLC off the Eden project, dontcha? Adam & Eve wanted to audit everything and redo Creation in java." -- Ari Heitner on BugTraq --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Wiki
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:47:51 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > >>On Wednesday, 05 January 2005, at 11:36:32 (+0900), >>Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> >> >>>http://www.enlightenment.org/t/ >>> >>>we're testing out drupal - but right now we dont have manpower or >>>people willing to work on a cms for e.org to make this happen. i've >>>done some of the work - but there's a lot more to do. >> >>I've been very impressed with Tikiwiki. It has a sane Wiki >>implementation along with a complete, robust CMS and modules for >>articles, FAQ's, site directories, task management, ticket tracking, >>forums, file/image galleries, user/team web logs, live support, and a >>bunch more. We're now using it for the cAos wiki (though without many >>of the addons): >> >>https://wiki.caosity.org/ >> >>Their site is: >> >>http://tikiwiki.org/ > > > hmm. willing to try it out... does it require mysql like god damn everything > else? > AFAIK tikiwiki use ADODB abstraction layer for database operation. That means it can (almost transparently) use any database from the list (from the adodb website): MySQL, PostgreSQL, Interbase, Firebird, Informix, Oracle, MS SQL, Foxpro, Access, ADO, Sybase, FrontBase, DB2, SAP DB, SQLite, Netezza, LDAP, and generic ODBC, ODBTP. That's mean that using SQLite it can use a file for operation! -- Mathieu Bruneau aka ROunofF === GPG keys available @ http://rounoff.darktech.org -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 2004-12-30 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] e16.8 in CVS
It's great to see that E has begun to make use of the new X extensions before the other window managers. :) Are there any plans to use the new composite manager in conjunction with the pager and/or iconified windows? It would be awfully nice (and very useful) to have off-screen window-contents updated in real-time on the pager's display and on iconified window representations. Best regards, c On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:06:12 +0100 Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In case there still are a few out there using e16 :) > > I have been messing around with a number of things, until now in a > separate CVS branch. This has now been merged into the trunk. > > 0.16.8 contains (at least internally) major changes wrt. 0.16.7. > I believe it is quite stable, but there may well be some bugs around. > > The major new features are: > - Name, configuration path, and install path changes, "enlightenment" -> >"e16" to avoid conficts with older e16 versions and with e17. > - Built-in composite manager. > - Systray. > > Additional info can be found in > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/enlightenment/e16/e/INSTALL?view=markup > > 0.16.7 had a few minor bug fixes after 0.16.7.2 was released. If anybody > wants those, check out by tag "tag-e16_7-final". > > /Kim > > > > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
