Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
:( Thank you :) On 05/14/2014 01:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: >>> On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc > said: > >> I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and >> vmware-player-W8.desktop >> >> They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. >> I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox >> but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of >> vmware-player-W8.png). >> >> I do not understand what may occur. > because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a > seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the > mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when > app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf > that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do > this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) > which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or > symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm > startup id. > > to check the startup id: > > $ xprop | grep ID > _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" > > (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). > > I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? >>> it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window >>> created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the >>> window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that >>> link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next >>> best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was >>> launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the >>> pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and >>> unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does >>> not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you >>> clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - >>> we match them up. >>> >>> >>> >> I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file >> which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the >> application..? > you can't. well you could do it with an ld_preload and trap the window create > and then force a property to be added - but no such ld_preload has been > written > and it wont work for setuid apps. > > e already provides the id in an environment variable as per freedesktop.org > specs - some apps support it. efl always supports it as its done in the > toolkit > if the app likes it or not. > > -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > > On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > > > >> On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc > >>> said: > >>> > I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and > vmware-player-W8.desktop > > They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. > I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox > but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of > vmware-player-W8.png). > > I do not understand what may occur. > >>> because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a > >>> seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the > >>> mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when > >>> app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf > >>> that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do > >>> this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) > >>> which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or > >>> symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm > >>> startup id. > >>> > >>> to check the startup id: > >>> > >>> $ xprop | grep ID > >>> _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" > >>> > >>> (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). > >>> > >>> > >> I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from > >> the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? > > it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window > > created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the > > window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that > > link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next > > best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was > > launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the > > pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and > > unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does > > not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you > > clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - > > we match them up. > > > > > > > I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file > which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the > application..? you can't. well you could do it with an ld_preload and trap the window create and then force a property to be added - but no such ld_preload has been written and it wont work for setuid apps. e already provides the id in an environment variable as per freedesktop.org specs - some apps support it. efl always supports it as its done in the toolkit if the app likes it or not. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: >>> I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. >>> because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a >>> seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the >>> mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app >>> is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env >>> var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is >>> falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is >>> ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use >>> a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. >>> >>> to check the startup id: >>> >>> $ xprop | grep ID >>> _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" >>> >>> (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). >>> >>> >> I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from >> the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? > it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created > is > just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing > and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most > accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm > PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar > is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for > firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup > id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. > we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you > see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. > > > I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the application..? -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > > On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > > > >> I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and > >> vmware-player-W8.desktop > >> > >> They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. > >> I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox > >> but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of > >> vmware-player-W8.png). > >> > >> I do not understand what may occur. > > because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a > > seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the > > mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app > > is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env > > var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is > > falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is > > ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use > > a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. > > > > to check the startup id: > > > > $ xprop | grep ID > > _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" > > > > (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). > > > > > I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from > the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop >> >> They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. >> I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox >> but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of >> vmware-player-W8.png). >> >> I do not understand what may occur. > because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies > of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st > accurate > is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it > is > the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on > the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching > commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name > too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to > vmware about netwm startup id. > > to check the startup id: > > $ xprop | grep ID > _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" > > (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). > > I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop > > They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. > I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox > but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of > vmware-player-W8.png). > > I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133" (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). > Here is significant data : > > > > root@pcouderc:/usr/share/applications# cat vmware-player-XP.desktop > [Desktop Entry] > Encoding=UTF-8 > Name=VMware XP > Comment=Run XP > Exec=/usr/bin/vmplayer /var/vm/TOLL-XPVM/TOLL-XPVM.vmx > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Icon=vmware-player-XP > StartupNotify=true > Categories=System; > MimeType=application/x-vmware-vm;application/x-vmware-enc-vm; > > root@pcouderc:/usr/share/applications# cat vmware-player-W8.desktop > [Desktop Entry] > Encoding=UTF-8 > Name=VMware W8 > Comment=Run W8 > Exec=/usr/bin/vmplayer /var/vm/TOLL-W8VM/TOLL-XPVM.vmx > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Icon=vmware-player-W8.png > StartupNotify=true > Categories=System; > MimeType=application/x-vmware-vm;application/x-vmware-enc-vm; > > root@pcouderc:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps# locate vmware-player- > | grep > png > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/vmware-player-W8.png > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/vmware-player-XP.png > > > -- > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get > unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. > Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." > http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for releasing software faster • Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. Here is significant data : root@pcouderc:/usr/share/applications# cat vmware-player-XP.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=VMware XP Comment=Run XP Exec=/usr/bin/vmplayer /var/vm/TOLL-XPVM/TOLL-XPVM.vmx Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=vmware-player-XP StartupNotify=true Categories=System; MimeType=application/x-vmware-vm;application/x-vmware-enc-vm; root@pcouderc:/usr/share/applications# cat vmware-player-W8.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=VMware W8 Comment=Run W8 Exec=/usr/bin/vmplayer /var/vm/TOLL-W8VM/TOLL-XPVM.vmx Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=vmware-player-W8.png StartupNotify=true Categories=System; MimeType=application/x-vmware-vm;application/x-vmware-enc-vm; root@pcouderc:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps# locate vmware-player- | grep png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/vmware-player-W8.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/vmware-player-XP.png -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
