Re: [e-users] distrobutions-E-based distro
On 02/03/04, at 13:54 -0600, Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already brewing on e-users. I
am very interested at this point in creating an E-based distro/liveCD --
mostly out of frustration working with the various retarded Unix WMs I
have to use at work. At this point the tentative plan is to take
MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it has better/more
user-friendly administration tools) and strip it down to a bare minimum,
then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely necessary packages, and
finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands over to Entrance. If
there is sufficient support for this I'll start up a new project on SF to
begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced Unix, of course).
Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes to naming projects. :)
From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:
eunuch
n : a man who has been castrated and is incapable of
reproduction; eunuchs guarded the harem [syn: {castrate}]
Gees I like the idea of it. But NOT the name. No please not
eunuchs... :-) This name is awful dude. Give it a more powerful name or
one which symbolizes E! Who would want to use a distro w/ that
name?!?! Gosh!
Ibukun please consider revising it...
With kind regards,
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions-E-based distro
I agree with Didler the name Eunuchs sounds like
catchinng your balls in the door, how about something
more original like Enux or Enix.
Ben
--- Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 02/03/04, at 13:54 -0600, Ibukun Olumuyiwa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already
brewing on e-users. I
am very interested at this point in creating an
E-based distro/liveCD --
mostly out of frustration working with the various
retarded Unix WMs I
have to use at work. At this point the tentative
plan is to take
MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it
has better/more
user-friendly administration tools) and strip it
down to a bare minimum,
then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely
necessary packages, and
finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands
over to Entrance. If
there is sufficient support for this I'll start up
a new project on SF to
begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced
Unix, of course).
Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes
to naming projects. :)
From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:
eunuch
n : a man who has been castrated and is
incapable of
reproduction; eunuchs guarded the harem
[syn: {castrate}]
Gees I like the idea of it. But NOT the name. No
please not
eunuchs... :-) This name is awful dude. Give it a
more powerful name or
one which symbolizes E! Who would want to use a
distro w/ that
name?!?! Gosh!
Ibukun please consider revising it...
With kind regards,
Didier.
---
PhD student.
Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603
Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg /
didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu 26 Feb 2004, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:51:06 +0800 Wouter van Marle [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Strawberry flavour. Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop). if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no apache no mysql no openldap in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read e-mail. all things like gimp would be add-on packages (of course an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :) Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already brewing on e-users. I am very interested at this point in creating an E-based distro/liveCD -- mostly out of frustration working with the various retarded Unix WMs I have to use at work. At this point the tentative plan is to take MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it has better/more user-friendly administration tools) and strip it down to a bare minimum, then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely necessary packages, and finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands over to Entrance. If there is sufficient support for this I'll start up a new project on SF to begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced Unix, of course). Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes to naming projects. :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:01:08 -0500 Justin P [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B I would love to help out with this idea. I am new at this development (B thing, so I won't be able to give much in the way of guidance but would (B gladly be an indian and listen and do what the chiefs suggest. (B (Bwell at this stage it's probably a question of - either if we make it compatible (Bwith a dist - example, make it based on debian and use .deb's then it will just (Bbe a specific fork of debian's base and we can apt-get install the rest. do we (Bbuild off RH/fedora? or mandrake? or do we simply examine dists and "DIY" (B (Bpersonally i'd DIY to meet the goals of making it ultra-small and ultra-fast to (Bboot. (B (B Justin (B (B On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote: (B On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:54:07 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B babbled: (B (B Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already brewing on e-users. I (B am very interested at this point in creating an E-based distro/liveCD -- (B mostly out of frustration working with the various retarded Unix WMs I (B (B there's also undeadlinux that tries to be this - i know very little about it (B - so i don't know if its alive, dead, how good etc. (B (B have to use at work. At this point the tentative plan is to take (B MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it has better/more (B user-friendly administration tools) and strip it down to a bare minimum, (B then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely necessary packages, and (B finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands over to Entrance. If (B there is sufficient support for this I'll start up a new project on SF to (B begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced "Unix", of course). (B Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes to naming projects. :) (B (B not sure i like enuchs... but... hehehehe :) first i like this idea - but (B we'd need REAL dedication to this. doing a dist - of any size is a LOT of (B work. and i see us having 2 issues here. we have a CD "live" dist and an (B installed dist - they can share a lot in common - in fatc i'd love to see a (B live dist where one option after it has booted is "install me" as a (B menu/app/button etc. the problem with building on a dist and stripping it (B down is that you inherit its cruft - no matter how far you strip. (B (B personally i'd look agt WHAT the dists do to run well and then do it again (B "from scratch". that'd be how i would do it. you will make a MUCh leaner (B dist and actually understand every component and know why it is there and (B exactly what it does. in all honesty this isnt as hard as it sounds... (B (B -- (B (B Ibukun Olumuyiwa (B http://xcomputerman.com (B (B "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy (B getting get understanding." - Proverbs 4:7 (B (B (B (B (B --- (B SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. (B Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with (B a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! (B http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B ___ (B enlightenment-users mailing list (B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:49:08AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. FreeBSD. Which isn't a flavor of linux. :-) Yeah, me to. Make world and the power to server. -- J. Erik Heinz Mitarbeiter am Lehrstuhl fuer Entwicklung betrieblicher InformationsSysteme --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On 02/28/04 21:44:59, Francisco de Borja López Río wrote: E-16.5 on a FreeBSD 5.2 Box E-16.4 on a OpenBSD -current Box E-16.6 in my Slackware -current laptop E-17 (tryied a little in Slackware's laptop too) it's hard to get it now on slackware, since pat didn't makes official packages (extremely hard with Eterm). What problems are you having with E or Eterm now under Slack? There was a problem under Slack-9 in that the ksh93 package contained a library file named libast-so.5.4 which conflicted with the libast required by Eterm-9.2. The Slackware-current ksh package no longer contains the conflicting library. I compiled E, Eterm (and libast) with no problems on a fresh install of slackware-9.1 (immediately upgraded to -current.) Brad --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
(B Hello, (B (B Some of U has tried www.knoppix.org which is a LIVE-CD distro based on (B debian. You can choose lang, wm, at boot time. There is about 2Go of (B applications on only 1 CD. The packages are uncompressed "in live". (B (B It's very interesting to verify if a computer is Linux compatible. Just (B Boot on the CD and look the eyes of the (windows) sailor when you can (B- connect to the network especially if there is a DHCP (B- access the windows partitions with only a click on the desktop (B icons (B- run the last e17 installed on your USB key !!! (B- use open office (B- try the usb or iEEE connection with your camera (B- print if there is printer connected (B- and many other things that a full system can run. (B (B all this without anything installed on the disk ! (B And the sailor prays for you to forget the CD !:-D ! (B (B Actually, e isn't in the wm list you can choose at boot time but knoppix (B is, in fact, a debian sarge and gives tools to create/add/remove the (B (un)needed debian packages. (B (Bif anyone wants they could make a knoppix build/variant that does ship with E as (Bthe wm... :) (B (B After booting and validating, you can install knoppix (debian (B apt-get/cache ...) on your computer. (B (B Any computer (of friend, parents, company) can be transformed in a full (B linux system configured for your needs anytime ! powerful no ?! (B (B (B (B (B (B On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:41:39 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B babbled: (B (B On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:59:49 +0900 (B Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: (B (Bbut i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or (B"e friendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean (Bdesktop - all clean and spotless. (B (B (B There is one (B (B http://undeadlinux.org/ (B (B Been awhile since I tested it but it installs in the manner of gentoo (B (B ooh it's alive! err i man dead... err undead :) (B -- (B Debian SID (B Linux tanna 2.6.3 #1 Tue Feb 24 03:06:51 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux (B Linux Counter #59413 (B PGP fingerprint : 9AFA 15EC 96C9 F607 EBC1 DD41 70C5 F0E0 25A5 105B (B (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:51:06 +0800 Wouter van Marle (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B Strawberry flavour. (B (B Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to (B have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack (B (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop). (B (Bif i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love (Bto actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no (B"openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in, (Band run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read (Be-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an easy to (Buse package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like (Bto make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login (Bmanager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if (Byou REALLY want (it's been done) :) (B (B Wouter. (B (B On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 20:21, Justin P wrote: (B (B I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened (B people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. (B (B Justin (B (B (B (B --- (B SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. (B Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with (B a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! (B http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B ___ (B enlightenment-users mailing list (B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B -- (B Wouter van Marle [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B Squirrel Systems HK (B (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:54:47 +0100 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:16:57 +0900 (B Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B (B if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd (B love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" (B no"openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, (B log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or (B 3, read e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course (B an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a (B side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 (B seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be (B done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :) (B (B Since you included the clause "if i had the time", I suggest you take a look (B at Gentoo. It's pretty much what you describe. I don't know about fast booting (B though, I never considered it a priority. (B (B PS: Let's hope this won't turn into a distro war now :) (B (Bdefinitely not! no distro wars here. everyone has their preferences. right now i (Bhave debian installed and i'm not going to try gentoo as that'd mean a (Bre-install. i might try it when i have a spare box and spare time... i'm not (Breally into waiting days for my system to compile though... (B (Bbut i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or "e (Bfriendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean desktop - all (Bclean and spotless. (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
Justin P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. FreeBSD. Which isn't a flavor of linux. :-) --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
Strawberry flavour. Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop). Wouter. On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 20:21, Justin P wrote: I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. Justin --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wouter van Marle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Squirrel Systems HK
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
Cum Purpurea Rosa pulchritudinem admiratus eram, Domini Die quinto Kalendas Martias MMIV Justin P mihi appropinquavit proclamavitque: I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. Debian unstable with some unofficial archives (IPv6, for example). Adieu, -- Lestat de Lioncourt -- a.k.a -- Ciro Mattia Gonano Undergraduate student in Computer Science at University of Bologna IHGGer #1049 = ICQ#: 52631406 = URL: http://www.CS.UniBO.It/~gonano Debian admin at Students.CS.UniBO.It = look at headers for my JabberID GPG --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:16:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no apache no mysql no openldap in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read e-mail. all things like gimp would be add-on packages (of course an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :) Since you included the clause if i had the time, I suggest you take a look at Gentoo. It's pretty much what you describe. I don't know about fast booting though, I never considered it a priority. PS: Let's hope this won't turn into a distro war now :) -- /~\ The ASCIIAndrej Ticho Kacian andrej at kacian dot sk \ / Ribbon Campaign GnuPG public key ID: 7CD93FE2 (pgp.mit.edu) X Against HTML Key fingerprint: / \ Email! E87D 9DEF 2A23 6FFB 7AD9 542F 4253 3A46 7CD9 3FE2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
quote who=Carsten Haitzler if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no apache no mysql no openldap in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read e-mail. all things like gimp would be add-on packages (of course an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :) Many including me use Gentoo which fulfil above requirements for precisely those reasons. The bare time to boot has been 10-15 seconds before I added cups, apache and other stuff to run levels. And that's with framebuffer and bootsplash. See here for example. http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/images/2.6-bs.png -- Dhruba Bandopadhyay // dhruba [AT] codewordt.co.uk ICQ: 31628525 // MSN: bdhruba [AT] msn.com Use Gentoo Linux! // http://www.gentoo.org/ --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id56alloc_id438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
