Windows setting (image/gif 8.6K)

2000-10-12 Thread Rob Hudson

Settings only the MS people know about...


 hidden_settings.gif


Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Miller

Bob Crandell wrote:

> This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
> "To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file, then
> send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."
> 
> How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
> command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
> Is it done differently from different distributions?

Others have discussed "ps ax ; kill -HUP 234" (and discussed it to
death, and made bad puns).

The easier, all at once way is to use killall.

# killall -HUP inetd

killall finds the process named inetd and sends it a SIGHUP.

-- 
K
[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.jogger-egg.com/




More funnies

2000-10-12 Thread Michael J Smith

http://bbspot.com/News/2000/9/jerk_options.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/9/special_quake.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/8/l33t_code.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/7/ellison_grad.html




Re: M$ to use Corel to get into Linux?

2000-10-12 Thread Kent Loobey

.NET is Microsoft's answer to Java.  The problem for MS is how to get it
accepted by the Linux/Open Source community.  Microsoft can't beat Java
unless .NET is accepted by this community.  So MS is using Corel as a back
door to slide it in.

So the question is would you rather use C# and .NET to do basically the
same things that you can do with the Java stuff.  Of course this has the
added benefit (?) of having Bill's stamp of approval...

At 02:52 PM 10/12/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Ouch!!  Talk about insult to injury!  More likely, the Corel products 
>will just mysteriously no longer be available, and no longer updated.  
>
>Whether you like Wordperfect (and all the other fine Corel products)
>or not, this is bad news for the Linux/opensource community.  
>
>At 01:00 PM 10/12/00 -0700, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>And effectively immediately, Corel Linux's Debianish apt-get command
>>will be changed to:
>>
>>apt-get install MSLICENSE=S7SS45DD555F444ZYDS NUMUSERS=1-3 notepad
>>
>>Ben Barrett wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Microsoft using Corel to ease into Linux, documents hint
>>>US$135M injection
>>
>




Re: bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Franklin Hays


> > Is this your site?  I'm getting errors when I try to load it:
> > >Warning: Failed opening 'dbconnect.inc.php' for inclusion
> > (include_path='.:/usr/local/phplib/php') in
> > >/export/home0/webtrade/www/index.php3 on line 13

my take on this is that the file identified in teh include statement
of the PHP script is not valid or the permissions on it are wrong. or, if
the code included in that file has a bug then it can crash the
script.  could be many other things as well but usually when PHP spits out
an invalid include path to me it is either permissions or path.

my $.002
/frank 




Re: bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Michael J Smith

umno.

Bob Crandell wrote:
> 
> Anybody know a php programmer?
>




Satire ala Linux--way hardcore geek humor

2000-10-12 Thread Michael J Smith

OK, guys, check out bbspot.com for some cute news sotries.

http://bbspot.com/News/2000/5/MS_Linux_delay.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/9/linux_laid.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/9/bsod_death.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/10/p2p_girl.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/5/clock_rift.html

Cheers
--Mike




Re: bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

Anybody know a php programmer?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2000 3:00:16 PM >>>
Nope, not mine--I guess it's got some problems with it's
php-to-database
code.  Keep trying.  It was working for awhile, but then it
dies
mid-stream.  It did get /.'ed, so that might have something to
do with
it.  Maybe it's just running on a 386 with 5 20-MB hd's that
the
webmaster got free from the site.

Ralph Zeller wrote:
> 
> As we all race to the freebees...
> 
> Is this your site?  I'm getting errors when I try to load it:
> >Warning: Failed opening 'dbconnect.inc.php' for inclusion
> (include_path='.:/usr/local/phplib/php') in
> >/export/home0/webtrade/www/index.php3 on line 13
> 
> At 02:43 PM 10/12/00, Michael J Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >http://www.freeboxen.com/index.php3 
> >
> >A place to trade off your old junk for new old junk.  Paul
from Adept
> >comes to mind, but we could target some of the crufty old
remaining
> >cards that are in the back room.
> >




Re: M$ to use Corel to get into Linux?

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

Seth needs to use Windoze more.  MSLICENSE has 25 characters.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2000 1:00:41 PM >>>
And effectively immediately, Corel Linux's Debianish apt-get
command
will be changed to:

apt-get install MSLICENSE=S7SS45DD555F444ZYDS NUMUSERS=1-3
notepad

Ben Barrett wrote:
> 
>  Microsoft using Corel to ease into Linux, documents
hint
>US$135M injection




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Seth Cohn

> At 11:28 AM 10/12/00 -0700, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Nope, sighup means 'reset yourself, reload, rerun'
> >you don't need to rerun inetd.

Ralph Zeller wrote:
> 
> Like at the Country Faire...

Yeah like the Country Faire, Kip Kinkel, and Summer TV. (oh that was
bad...)




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

I've learned that if I don't move my mouse, I don't have to
reboot as often.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2000 2:52:25 PM >>>
Like at the Country Faire...

At 11:28 AM 10/12/00 -0700, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Nope, sighup means 'reset yourself, reload, rerun'
>you don't need to rerun inetd.
>
-clip

>sending a SIGHUP is one advantage to unix.  The Windows
equivalent is
>'You need to reboot'
>
>Seth
>




Re: bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Michael J Smith

Nope, not mine--I guess it's got some problems with it's php-to-database
code.  Keep trying.  It was working for awhile, but then it dies
mid-stream.  It did get /.'ed, so that might have something to do with
it.  Maybe it's just running on a 386 with 5 20-MB hd's that the
webmaster got free from the site.

Ralph Zeller wrote:
> 
> As we all race to the freebees...
> 
> Is this your site?  I'm getting errors when I try to load it:
> >Warning: Failed opening 'dbconnect.inc.php' for inclusion
> (include_path='.:/usr/local/phplib/php') in
> >/export/home0/webtrade/www/index.php3 on line 13
> 
> At 02:43 PM 10/12/00, Michael J Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >http://www.freeboxen.com/index.php3
> >
> >A place to trade off your old junk for new old junk.  Paul from Adept
> >comes to mind, but we could target some of the crufty old remaining
> >cards that are in the back room.
> >




Re: bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Ralph Zeller

As we all race to the freebees...

Is this your site?  I'm getting errors when I try to load it:
>Warning: Failed opening 'dbconnect.inc.php' for inclusion
(include_path='.:/usr/local/phplib/php') in
>/export/home0/webtrade/www/index.php3 on line 13

At 02:43 PM 10/12/00, Michael J Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>http://www.freeboxen.com/index.php3
>
>A place to trade off your old junk for new old junk.  Paul from Adept
>comes to mind, but we could target some of the crufty old remaining
>cards that are in the back room.
>




Re: M$ to use Corel to get into Linux?

2000-10-12 Thread Ralph Zeller

Ouch!!  Talk about insult to injury!  More likely, the Corel products 
will just mysteriously no longer be available, and no longer updated.  

Whether you like Wordperfect (and all the other fine Corel products)
or not, this is bad news for the Linux/opensource community.  

At 01:00 PM 10/12/00 -0700, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And effectively immediately, Corel Linux's Debianish apt-get command
>will be changed to:
>
>apt-get install MSLICENSE=S7SS45DD555F444ZYDS NUMUSERS=1-3 notepad
>
>Ben Barrett wrote:
>> 
>>  Microsoft using Corel to ease into Linux, documents hint
>>US$135M injection
>




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Ralph Zeller

Like at the Country Faire...

At 11:28 AM 10/12/00 -0700, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nope, sighup means 'reset yourself, reload, rerun'
>you don't need to rerun inetd.
>
-clip

>sending a SIGHUP is one advantage to unix.  The Windows equivalent is
>'You need to reboot'
>
>Seth
>




bring out your junk...and trade it

2000-10-12 Thread Michael J Smith

http://www.freeboxen.com/index.php3

A place to trade off your old junk for new old junk.  Paul from Adept
comes to mind, but we could target some of the crufty old remaining
cards that are in the back room.




Linux on hardware raid w/o drivers

2000-10-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek

Hi All,

I'm building a server at work.  It will have win2000 on it. :(
But for the burn in phase, I'm wanted to put on linux to play.
It's a dual p3-933 xeon, 2gb of memory, 6 ultra160 18.2GB 15k rpm 
harddrives in a raid 10 configuration.  Obviously something fun to play 
on.

The Ultra160 RAID Controller is an Adaptec (With some DPT in there) 3200S 
controller.

When I boot up the mandrake CD, it says no drives found.  I've tried 
several of the drivers it offers, however no love.  I've tried redhat 
6.1, as well.

Suse reports that I have about 10 different partitions ranging in sizes 
of 253mb, 9gb and 25gb. They are also on many different controllers: hda, 
hdb, hdc, sda, and sdb.  I actually have 1 RAID controller, 1 on board 
adaptec ultra160 scsi controller (with the cdrom drive), and an ide 
controller (with an ide cdrom drive temporarily).

I can boot off a dos 7 disk, and see the drive just fine.  The controller 
remaps BIOS Int 13h to itself, which apparently dos uses.  I was able to 
create a 54gb fat32 partition and format it. Dos likes it just fine.

How can I get a linux installer to recognize an Int 13 device?  While 
booting off of the CD, with no available temporary harddrive?  I could 
put in an ide harddrive temporarily, but I want to install on to the 
Ultra 160, Raid 0+1, 15krpm logical drive for obvious reasons.

No, sorry, I can't bring this to the clinic!  I picked up a sweet all 
metal steel case from california pc (www.calpc.com, 13-bay rackmount 
chassis).

Thanks,
Cory




Re: M$ to use Corel to get into Linux?

2000-10-12 Thread Seth Cohn

And effectively immediately, Corel Linux's Debianish apt-get command
will be changed to:

apt-get install MSLICENSE=S7SS45DD555F444ZYDS NUMUSERS=1-3 notepad

Ben Barrett wrote:
> 
>  Microsoft using Corel to ease into Linux, documents hint
>US$135M injection




M$ to use Corel to get into Linux? (fwd)

2000-10-12 Thread Ben Barrett


*the following is from www.nationalpost.com (link found from NewsForge)*

October 12, 2000

 Microsoft using Corel to ease into Linux, documents hint
   US$135M injection

   David Akin
   Financial Post

Corel Corp. may be the tool Microsoft Corp. uses to ease itself into the
open source community, according to regulatory documents filed late
yesterday.
In a 531-page document filed by Ottawa-based Corel with the
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Corel said it has granted
Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft the option to direct Corel to port part or
all of Microsoft's next-generation .NET architecture to run on the
Linux operating system.

Linux is the open source operating system widely seen as a credible and
serious rival to Microsoft's server operating systems, particularly
Microsoft NT and Microsoft 2000 Server.

Moreover, the Linux and Microsoft software development philosophies are
diametrical opposites. With Linux, an army of Internet-connected volunteer
programmers share the source code, improve it and pass on improvements to
that source code, all under the stewardship of Linus
Torvalds. Microsoft, on the other hand, uses a proprietary development
model in which source code and development strategies are
fiercely guarded secrets and viewed only by Microsoft employees.

Last week, Microsoft said it would invest US$135-million in cash-strapped
Corel. In exchange, Corel said it would commit to developing products
consistent with Microsoft's next-generation .NET architecture.

But it is now clear Microsoft will use its investment with Corel -- which
distributes its own version of Linux and has converted some of its
software products like WordPerfect to run on Linux -- to ease into the
Linux community. Neither Corel nor Microsoft officials could be reached
last night for comment.

In the event Microsoft exercises its option -- and the option runs for
three years -- to have Corel port part or all of the .NET architecture to
Linux, Corel has agreed to put 20 full-time developers and 10 full-time
testers on the project.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Seth Cohn

Bob Crandell wrote:
> 
> Does "kill -HUP pid#" equal SIGHUP?

by pid#, rob meant the process ID#  so yes... kill -HUP 234 would send a
kill -HUP to process 234

-HUP means send the SIGHUP (SIGnal HangUP), instead of a 'kill signal'

try man kill for a list of other signals you can send...

> I just type "inetd" to restart it?

Nope, sighup means 'reset yourself, reload, rerun'
you don't need to rerun inetd.

> | This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
> | "To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file,
> then
> | send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."
> |
> | How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
> | command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
> | Is it done differently from different distributions?

actually, it's done the same in almost all distros, Linux or not...
sending a SIGHUP is one advantage to unix.  The Windows equivalent is
'You need to reboot'

Seth




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Rob Hudson

I believe it is the same.  the -HUP tells the daemon to re-read it's
config files and start anew.

Bob Crandell said these things on 20001012.1209:
| Does "kill -HUP pid#" equal SIGHUP?
| I just type "inetd" to restart it?
| 
| Thanks
| 
| >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2000 11:39:04 AM >>>
| Do a 'ps ax' and find the line that has 'inetd' in it.  Find the
| pid
| (process ID) number, then type 'kill -HUP pid#'.
| 
| -Rob
| 
| Bob Crandell said these things on 20001012.1140:
| | This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
| | "To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file,
| then
| | send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."
| | 
| | How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
| | command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
| | Is it done differently from different distributions?
| | 
| | Thanks to any and all alike.




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

Does "kill -HUP pid#" equal SIGHUP?
I just type "inetd" to restart it?

Thanks

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2000 11:39:04 AM >>>
Do a 'ps ax' and find the line that has 'inetd' in it.  Find the
pid
(process ID) number, then type 'kill -HUP pid#'.

-Rob

Bob Crandell said these things on 20001012.1140:
| This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
| "To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file,
then
| send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."
| 
| How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
| command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
| Is it done differently from different distributions?
| 
| Thanks to any and all alike.




Re: Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Rob Hudson

Do a 'ps ax' and find the line that has 'inetd' in it.  Find the pid
(process ID) number, then type 'kill -HUP pid#'.

-Rob

Bob Crandell said these things on 20001012.1140:
| This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
| "To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file, then
| send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."
| 
| How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
| command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
| Is it done differently from different distributions?
| 
| Thanks to any and all alike.




Inetd

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

This line is at the top of /etc/inetd.conf:
"To re-configure the running INETD process, edit this file, then
send the INETD process a SIGHUP signal."

How do you send the inetd process a SIGHUP signal from the
command line?  Man inetd doesn't mention it.
Is it done differently from different distributions?

Thanks to any and all alike.




Re: Showing off linux at work

2000-10-12 Thread linux

Its true... setting up networking is much easier in linux. and never 
requires re-booting.

Jamie
On 11 Oct 2000, at 22:27, Timothy Bolz wrote:

> The box I built a couple of weeks ago I finally brought to work.  It was really
> great to show off what Linux could do.  There was one person who I really
> wanted to show it off too.  She was very impressed.  I had 6 screens virtual
> desktops open and moved a window a window thru all of them just to show them
> what Linux was capable of.  I also had the screensaver running as the
> background.  If you haven't tried this out it's great.  Pull up a terminal.  I
> used pyro for an example.  Type pyro -root , let window try and do that.  I
> should have picked a better screensaver tho.  How about the matrix -root.
> The only problem with the system had 32 megs of ram so it was sluggish but I
> did have a lot of things open.  
> 
> I think  she's going to partiton her drive and install Linux.  If she started
> using linux she'd be a real linux advocate.  
> 
> At work today.  I had to install a network card.  Is windows a pain. Sure it's
> multitasking.  I was installing it from cd but didn't know what directory the
> cd was this a pain.  In linux I'd find out what module I'd  use and insmod
> or modprobe it.  Is that easy.  The more I use Linux the less I like using
> windows.  I guess I'm really spoiled now.  I expect real multitasking now.
> 
>  
> 




Re: last Thursday's meeting October 5,2000

2000-10-12 Thread linux

Sigh... I belive one of those addresses was in error too, since I got 
a message from an upset person about being on this mailinglist 
without having subscribed! 

Jamie

On 11 Oct 2000, at 20:20, Timothy Bolz wrote:

> I found some people who gave their e-mail addresses last week and got them. 
> Jamie put them on the mailing list.   For those people who, you can always get
> yourself off the list by going to our web site.  
> 
> http://www.euglug.com
> Until Thursday
> Tim
> 




Re: The Dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide

2000-10-12 Thread Stephen A. Brenner

I hate to see Dihydrogen Monoxide get such a bad rap.
Most of the problems associated with it are related
to industrial contaminants. In it's pure form it's
actually an essential ingredient for life. In fact
you never want to let your self get De-Dihydrogenated.
Of course, too much of a good thing can also be bad, 
with a number of people perishing from overdoses.

Steve
>
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/11/2000 3:47:46 PM >>>
>I don't normally send out email posts, but this topic seems
>pretty
>important, and I just have to share it with all of my friends.
>
>Dihydrogen Monoxide is found in all of our workplaces and homes,
>and being
>aware of the dangers of it is vitally important for all of us.
>
>Check out http://www.dhmo.org for more info.
>
>Have a smiling, happier day, knowing more people will treat
>Dihydrogen
>Monoxide with the respect and fear it deserves,
>
>Seth
>
>
>
>




RE: Showing off linux at work

2000-10-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek

No you aren't spoiled.  Your computer has just been suffering all along.  It
is not free to express itself.

Running the screen saver as a background is pretty neat!

Here's another neato thing to show off.

You need mpg123 (console mpg player), and some mp3's.  One will do, but more
is better.

>From a console (even a window): mpg123 -Z mp3/* &
(ie start playing mp3's in random order in the background)
Hit the up arrow, and do it again.
And again...
And again...
And again...

My Pentium 200 at home can play 5 at once without skipping a beat.  On the
6th one, it starts getting a little chunky.  I estimate my p3 at work can
play about 15 at once and still be fine.  It sounds crazy listening to it,
but try that on windows!

Cory

-Original Message-
From: Timothy Bolz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Showing off linux at work


The box I built a couple of weeks ago I finally brought to work.  It was
really
great to show off what Linux could do.  There was one person who I really
wanted to show it off too.  She was very impressed.  I had 6 screens virtual
desktops open and moved a window a window thru all of them just to show them
what Linux was capable of.  I also had the screensaver running as the
background.  If you haven't tried this out it's great.  Pull up a terminal.
I
used pyro for an example.  Type pyro -root , let window try and do that.  I
should have picked a better screensaver tho.  How about the matrix -root.
The only problem with the system had 32 megs of ram so it was sluggish but I
did have a lot of things open.  

I think  she's going to partiton her drive and install Linux.  If she
started
using linux she'd be a real linux advocate.  

At work today.  I had to install a network card.  Is windows a pain. Sure
it's
multitasking.  I was installing it from cd but didn't know what directory
the
cd was this a pain.  In linux I'd find out what module I'd  use and insmod
or modprobe it.  Is that easy.  The more I use Linux the less I like using
windows.  I guess I'm really spoiled now.  I expect real multitasking now.

 




Re: The Dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Crandell

I like peas and DHMO.
I've eaten it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny.
But it keeps them on my knife.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/11/2000 3:47:46 PM >>>
I don't normally send out email posts, but this topic seems
pretty
important, and I just have to share it with all of my friends.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is found in all of our workplaces and homes,
and being
aware of the dangers of it is vitally important for all of us.

Check out http://www.dhmo.org for more info.

Have a smiling, happier day, knowing more people will treat
Dihydrogen
Monoxide with the respect and fear it deserves,

Seth







Re: Is anyone available for paid tech support tonight?

2000-10-12 Thread Christopher Allen

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Christopher Allen wrote:

> I'll drive my box to wherever you are if you can set it up so I can ping
Everything is hunky dory now. Jamie came over and fixed it. I didn't
have the correct kernal module for my 3c900b selected -- and, in fact, the
correct kernal module was not listed in Mandrake's graphical netconfig
tool. Jamie happened to know the name of the correct module, found it via
a terminal session in the place where all NIC modules are stored (to
confirm it was there) and manually entered it's name into said graphical
netconfig tool.

I'm typing this from home. Checking my bandwidth (via 2wire.com), it
started out pretty slow -- around 140Kb/s IIRC. It's been creeping up all
night -- er morning -- seems to be training up? I just got 533Kb/s. Still
waiting for that magic 640 they promised (yes, I am close to the CO).

Thanks to Mike who also called to help and Cory and Rob who answered via
e-mail.

-Chris




Re: The Dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide

2000-10-12 Thread Seth Cohn

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Magnus wrote:

> [me@host home]$ ps -aux|grep DMHO
> everybody   666   666666   31337   0   ?   Z   02:22   0:00 
> [me@host home]$ killall -9 DMHO

Hmm, -9 ?  That reminds me of Vonnegut's Ice-9 :)

Seth