[Eug-lug] Ubuntu, runlevels, and X

2006-08-25 Thread Garl Grigsby
Ok, I guess I need somebody to 'learn me' in the ways of Debian, well 
Ubuntu at least.


I've got a box I setup for my kids recently and I thought I'd put Ubuntu 
on it. Last night I realized I was running the unaccelerated nvidia 
driver. So I went to install the Nvidia binary drivers. After 
downloading the latest version, and installing a bunch of prereq's (damn 
apt kicks butt), I started the install.


One of the first things you run into is the requirement that the X 
server be down prior to starting the install. Being from the Redhat 
verse (well CentOS), I log'd out, switched to a console, and tried 'init 
3'.


Nothing. No change. X is happily running along. So I try it again, maybe 
I flubbed it somehow?!? Well what about 'init 2', that's got to work, 
right? Nope. After a bit of futzing I'm starting to get frustrated. So I 
decide I go to the one sure method: I try the magic alt-ctrl-backpace. 
Success! Fireworks! Happiness! My kids think I'm great, well, for a 
second. Then GDM starts right backup. WTF? Contemplating violence I try 
stopping GDM via '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'. That seems to do it, but only 
after the second time().


Now I start to wonder: Why didn't switching runlevels work. In the 
Redhat Verse the runlevels are as follows, as best I can remember off 
the top of my head:


   init 1 single user, maintenance mode
   init 2 multi user with no network (not sure, never used it much)
   init 3 multi user with network.
   init 4 nothing
   init 5 multi user with network and with X
   init 6 reboot land

So I start digging. From my poking, I gather that for Ubuntu, there is 
runlevel 1 and runlevel 2-5. 2-5 are all identical. What's the logic 
behind this? I know I can modify this to act more like what I'm used to, 
but I just want to understand the logic behind the all or nothing 
design... Anybody care to comment?


--Garl
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Re: [Eug-lug] OSUOSL fundraising

2006-08-25 Thread Michael Miller

Bob,

What is the final total?

On 8/22/06, Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have raised $160!

I have received funds from kbob, Rob H, Brian G, Tony N, and Jason L.
Jim D, you're covered until 9/1.

I am going to hand all the money over to the OSUOSL on Thursday night.
If anyone else wants in, now's your chance...

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[Eug-lug] Correct Apache User and Group for easy editing

2006-08-25 Thread Martin Kelly
I've been having a problem with my Apache setup in that I'm not sure 
what user I should run it under. The default is www-data, and I could 
just add myself to the www-data group and be able to edit it under my 
user (martin). The problem with that is that when I create files with my 
normal user, they will be owned by martin and thus inaccessible to 
Apache. I could just edit the files with the www-data user, but that is 
annoying in terms of syncing together various files (.vimrc and such) 
between /home/martin and /home/www-data.


I attempted to have Apache run under the user martin by adding the 
following in my Apache config:


User martin
Group martin

but when I try to have a script create a directory, for example, it 
returns Permission Denied. This is Apache 2.0.55.


Does anybody have a good solution for this? For example, is there a way 
to make all files created by me in /var/www owned by www-data instead?


Thanks all.
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[Eug-lug] Could not start kdestartupconfig

2006-08-25 Thread Zeb Packard

I'm running Suse 10.0
Security patches are up to date

I'm not sure what happened last time but I restarted my computer and I
got could not start kdestartupconfig after logging in as certain
users.

I also noticed that my ati radeon driver was uninstalled.
I tried deleting .kde, reinstalling the driver, but nothing worked.

I backed everything up, reinstalled and yesterday, after I had run
YOU, I was installing the ati radeon driver again and I rebooted and
got the same message.

I had installed and uninstalled the ati driver multiple times and it
would not show up in my general configuration.

Though, atiuninstall.sh wouldn't and when I tried yast to install and
uninstall it wouldn't show up (no 3d graphics card available or 3d
support not configured) , but yast package manager would show the
driver package as installed. I ran aticonfig after installation on
both manual and managed tries.

Eventually, after installing and uninstalling and rebooting on the new
Suse-install I received could not start kdestartupconfig.

I am currently not running my ati-driver and so far I haven't had any
problems, but I cannot isolate the source of the issue and would
prefer to just fix after the fact.

Thanx in advance
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Re: [Eug-lug] OSUOSL fundraising

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Miller
Michael Miller wrote:

 What is the final total?

We raised $200.

Mike Cherba 20
Jim Darrough20
Brian Gallagher 20
Rob Hudson  20
Jason LaPier20
Bob Miller  40
Mike Miller 20
Tony Newman 20
Larry Price 20

Thank you all for helping.

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Re: [Eug-lug] Ubuntu, runlevels, and X

2006-08-25 Thread Allen Brown

Having switched from RedHat to Debian some time ago, I
agree.  The RedHat model seems sensible.  I just don't
understand why Debian didn't embrace it.
--
Allen Brown  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.peak.org/~abrown/
  When you're angry, take a deep breath and count to ten.
  When you're really angry, swear.

Garl Grigsby wrote:
Ok, I guess I need somebody to 'learn me' in the ways of Debian, well 
Ubuntu at least.


I've got a box I setup for my kids recently and I thought I'd put Ubuntu 
on it. Last night I realized I was running the unaccelerated nvidia 
driver. So I went to install the Nvidia binary drivers. After 
downloading the latest version, and installing a bunch of prereq's (damn 
apt kicks butt), I started the install.


One of the first things you run into is the requirement that the X 
server be down prior to starting the install. Being from the Redhat 
verse (well CentOS), I log'd out, switched to a console, and tried 'init 
3'.


Nothing. No change. X is happily running along. So I try it again, maybe 
I flubbed it somehow?!? Well what about 'init 2', that's got to work, 
right? Nope. After a bit of futzing I'm starting to get frustrated. So I 
decide I go to the one sure method: I try the magic alt-ctrl-backpace. 
Success! Fireworks! Happiness! My kids think I'm great, well, for a 
second. Then GDM starts right backup. WTF? Contemplating violence I try 
stopping GDM via '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'. That seems to do it, but only 
after the second time().


Now I start to wonder: Why didn't switching runlevels work. In the 
Redhat Verse the runlevels are as follows, as best I can remember off 
the top of my head:


   init 1 single user, maintenance mode
   init 2 multi user with no network (not sure, never used it much)
   init 3 multi user with network.
   init 4 nothing
   init 5 multi user with network and with X
   init 6 reboot land

So I start digging. From my poking, I gather that for Ubuntu, there is 
runlevel 1 and runlevel 2-5. 2-5 are all identical. What's the logic 
behind this? I know I can modify this to act more like what I'm used to, 
but I just want to understand the logic behind the all or nothing 
design... Anybody care to comment?


--Garl

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