[Eug-lug] Ubuntu, runlevels, and X
Ok, I guess I need somebody to 'learn me' in the ways of Debian, well Ubuntu at least. I've got a box I setup for my kids recently and I thought I'd put Ubuntu on it. Last night I realized I was running the unaccelerated nvidia driver. So I went to install the Nvidia binary drivers. After downloading the latest version, and installing a bunch of prereq's (damn apt kicks butt), I started the install. One of the first things you run into is the requirement that the X server be down prior to starting the install. Being from the Redhat verse (well CentOS), I log'd out, switched to a console, and tried 'init 3'. Nothing. No change. X is happily running along. So I try it again, maybe I flubbed it somehow?!? Well what about 'init 2', that's got to work, right? Nope. After a bit of futzing I'm starting to get frustrated. So I decide I go to the one sure method: I try the magic alt-ctrl-backpace. Success! Fireworks! Happiness! My kids think I'm great, well, for a second. Then GDM starts right backup. WTF? Contemplating violence I try stopping GDM via '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'. That seems to do it, but only after the second time(). Now I start to wonder: Why didn't switching runlevels work. In the Redhat Verse the runlevels are as follows, as best I can remember off the top of my head: init 1 single user, maintenance mode init 2 multi user with no network (not sure, never used it much) init 3 multi user with network. init 4 nothing init 5 multi user with network and with X init 6 reboot land So I start digging. From my poking, I gather that for Ubuntu, there is runlevel 1 and runlevel 2-5. 2-5 are all identical. What's the logic behind this? I know I can modify this to act more like what I'm used to, but I just want to understand the logic behind the all or nothing design... Anybody care to comment? --Garl ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
Re: [Eug-lug] OSUOSL fundraising
Bob, What is the final total? On 8/22/06, Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have raised $160! I have received funds from kbob, Rob H, Brian G, Tony N, and Jason L. Jim D, you're covered until 9/1. I am going to hand all the money over to the OSUOSL on Thursday night. If anyone else wants in, now's your chance... -- Bob Miller Kbob [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
[Eug-lug] Correct Apache User and Group for easy editing
I've been having a problem with my Apache setup in that I'm not sure what user I should run it under. The default is www-data, and I could just add myself to the www-data group and be able to edit it under my user (martin). The problem with that is that when I create files with my normal user, they will be owned by martin and thus inaccessible to Apache. I could just edit the files with the www-data user, but that is annoying in terms of syncing together various files (.vimrc and such) between /home/martin and /home/www-data. I attempted to have Apache run under the user martin by adding the following in my Apache config: User martin Group martin but when I try to have a script create a directory, for example, it returns Permission Denied. This is Apache 2.0.55. Does anybody have a good solution for this? For example, is there a way to make all files created by me in /var/www owned by www-data instead? Thanks all. ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
[Eug-lug] Could not start kdestartupconfig
I'm running Suse 10.0 Security patches are up to date I'm not sure what happened last time but I restarted my computer and I got could not start kdestartupconfig after logging in as certain users. I also noticed that my ati radeon driver was uninstalled. I tried deleting .kde, reinstalling the driver, but nothing worked. I backed everything up, reinstalled and yesterday, after I had run YOU, I was installing the ati radeon driver again and I rebooted and got the same message. I had installed and uninstalled the ati driver multiple times and it would not show up in my general configuration. Though, atiuninstall.sh wouldn't and when I tried yast to install and uninstall it wouldn't show up (no 3d graphics card available or 3d support not configured) , but yast package manager would show the driver package as installed. I ran aticonfig after installation on both manual and managed tries. Eventually, after installing and uninstalling and rebooting on the new Suse-install I received could not start kdestartupconfig. I am currently not running my ati-driver and so far I haven't had any problems, but I cannot isolate the source of the issue and would prefer to just fix after the fact. Thanx in advance ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
Re: [Eug-lug] OSUOSL fundraising
Michael Miller wrote: What is the final total? We raised $200. Mike Cherba 20 Jim Darrough20 Brian Gallagher 20 Rob Hudson 20 Jason LaPier20 Bob Miller 40 Mike Miller 20 Tony Newman 20 Larry Price 20 Thank you all for helping. -- Bob Miller Kbob [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
Re: [Eug-lug] Ubuntu, runlevels, and X
Having switched from RedHat to Debian some time ago, I agree. The RedHat model seems sensible. I just don't understand why Debian didn't embrace it. -- Allen Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.peak.org/~abrown/ When you're angry, take a deep breath and count to ten. When you're really angry, swear. Garl Grigsby wrote: Ok, I guess I need somebody to 'learn me' in the ways of Debian, well Ubuntu at least. I've got a box I setup for my kids recently and I thought I'd put Ubuntu on it. Last night I realized I was running the unaccelerated nvidia driver. So I went to install the Nvidia binary drivers. After downloading the latest version, and installing a bunch of prereq's (damn apt kicks butt), I started the install. One of the first things you run into is the requirement that the X server be down prior to starting the install. Being from the Redhat verse (well CentOS), I log'd out, switched to a console, and tried 'init 3'. Nothing. No change. X is happily running along. So I try it again, maybe I flubbed it somehow?!? Well what about 'init 2', that's got to work, right? Nope. After a bit of futzing I'm starting to get frustrated. So I decide I go to the one sure method: I try the magic alt-ctrl-backpace. Success! Fireworks! Happiness! My kids think I'm great, well, for a second. Then GDM starts right backup. WTF? Contemplating violence I try stopping GDM via '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'. That seems to do it, but only after the second time(). Now I start to wonder: Why didn't switching runlevels work. In the Redhat Verse the runlevels are as follows, as best I can remember off the top of my head: init 1 single user, maintenance mode init 2 multi user with no network (not sure, never used it much) init 3 multi user with network. init 4 nothing init 5 multi user with network and with X init 6 reboot land So I start digging. From my poking, I gather that for Ubuntu, there is runlevel 1 and runlevel 2-5. 2-5 are all identical. What's the logic behind this? I know I can modify this to act more like what I'm used to, but I just want to understand the logic behind the all or nothing design... Anybody care to comment? --Garl ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug