Re: [EVDL] Electric Car May Be the Best Choice for Teen Drivers

2015-08-05 Thread K O via EV
Even better if teens have the chance to build their own, ala switch kits or 
converting gassers or restoring old converted EV cars! What programs do your 
kids have in "auto shop".. if they have "auto shop" at all. I don't shop where 
I can't charge. evalbum.com/1745
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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Aug 05 10:15:20 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>Wouldn't you like to have one of these as a backup when your LiIons go
>dead? For 60 pounds of weight, you'd get 1000 miles of range, with a few
>hundred miles of range between each plain water fill-up.
>
>If the price was right, this might be a smart way to go. 

That is the HUGE unanswered question.


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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread Sean Korb via EV
If it's cheaper than renting an ICE car for long trips or even the same
price, that could really work.

sean

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Bill Dennis via EV 
wrote:

> The recharge efficiency, I believe, is between only 15% - 20%.  But I don't
> see it as much of an issue, since most people would be using the aluminum
> battery only as a range extender, not in daily use.  The Phinergy test car
> relies mostly on lithium cells for its primary mobility, employing the
> Al-air battery  to recharge the lithium cells during extended trips.
>
> When using the Phinergy cells, you need to stop and replace the electrolyte
> every 200-to-300 miles.  The aluminum itself lasts longer.  Interesting, I
> think the battery actually gains weight as you use it, since the
> atmospheric
> oxygen that combines with the aluminum stays within the cell until you pump
> it out and exchange it for fresh electrolyte at the above-mentioned 200-300
> miles.
>
> Bill
>
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon
> Pack
>
> Metal-air batteries seem to be pretty good for hearing aids.  For EVs, I'm
> not so sure.  The main problem is that they're primary batteries - not
> rechargeable.  When they're discharged, you have to rebuild them.  (Some
> people call them metal fuel cells.)
>
> Alcan and Unique Mobility worked with Aluminum-Air batteries in the late
> 1980s.  They had a prototype system running in an Electrek EV (UM's
> intriguing limited production purpose-built EV) but eventually concluded it
> wasn't practical.
>
> In the 1990s, an Israeli company, Electric Fuel Corporation, developed Zn-
> Air batteries with rebuildable zinc "cassettes."  They collaborated with
> the
> German Post on a trial program of EVs using these batteries.  After several
> years, the Post concluded that it wasn't a viable system. Electric Fuel
> seems to have pretty much abandoned Zn-Air battery research and now
> concentrates on conventional battery chemistries for industrial, medical,
> and military uses.
>
> http://www.efbpower.com/oem/
>
> This isn't to say it's hopeless, just that there seem to be some
> substantial
> hurdles for metal-air batteries in EVs.
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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread Sean Korb via EV
That could make some sense if they are inexpensive.  It could be used like
a spare tire or like we use jumpers on an ICE if the battery goes dead.
It's enough to get to the charging station if we miscalculate and get
stranded between urban centers.   It probably would make sense to have them
on a tow truck if it was cheap enough... that is, cheaper than a tow.

sean

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:15 PM, len moskowitz via EV 
wrote:

> Ben wrote:
>
>
>  ...these batteries are not rechargeable.
>>
>
>
> I noted in the title that these are primary batteries.
>
>
> Wouldn't you like to have one of these as a backup when your LiIons go
> dead? For 60 pounds of weight, you'd get 1000 miles of range, with a few
> hundred miles of range between each plain water fill-up.
>
>
> If the price was right, this might be a smart way to go.
>
>
>
>  You'd have to re-refine the aluminum oxide into metallic aluminum...
>>
>
>
> Or exchange the anodes.
>
>
> If you used the pack only as a backup, you might never exhaust its
> capacity.
>
>
>
> Len Moskowitz
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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
The recharge efficiency, I believe, is between only 15% - 20%.  But I don't
see it as much of an issue, since most people would be using the aluminum
battery only as a range extender, not in daily use.  The Phinergy test car
relies mostly on lithium cells for its primary mobility, employing the
Al-air battery  to recharge the lithium cells during extended trips.

When using the Phinergy cells, you need to stop and replace the electrolyte
every 200-to-300 miles.  The aluminum itself lasts longer.  Interesting, I
think the battery actually gains weight as you use it, since the atmospheric
oxygen that combines with the aluminum stays within the cell until you pump
it out and exchange it for fresh electrolyte at the above-mentioned 200-300
miles.

Bill

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

Metal-air batteries seem to be pretty good for hearing aids.  For EVs, I'm
not so sure.  The main problem is that they're primary batteries - not
rechargeable.  When they're discharged, you have to rebuild them.  (Some
people call them metal fuel cells.) 

Alcan and Unique Mobility worked with Aluminum-Air batteries in the late
1980s.  They had a prototype system running in an Electrek EV (UM's
intriguing limited production purpose-built EV) but eventually concluded it
wasn't practical.  

In the 1990s, an Israeli company, Electric Fuel Corporation, developed Zn-
Air batteries with rebuildable zinc "cassettes."  They collaborated with the
German Post on a trial program of EVs using these batteries.  After several
years, the Post concluded that it wasn't a viable system. Electric Fuel
seems to have pretty much abandoned Zn-Air battery research and now
concentrates on conventional battery chemistries for industrial, medical,
and military uses.

http://www.efbpower.com/oem/

This isn't to say it's hopeless, just that there seem to be some substantial
hurdles for metal-air batteries in EVs.

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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread len moskowitz via EV

Ben wrote:



 ...these batteries are not rechargeable.



I noted in the title that these are primary batteries.


Wouldn't you like to have one of these as a backup when your LiIons go 
dead? For 60 pounds of weight, you'd get 1000 miles of range, with a few 
hundred miles of range between each plain water fill-up.



If the price was right, this might be a smart way to go. 




 You'd have to re-refine the aluminum oxide into metallic aluminum...



Or exchange the anodes. 


If you used the pack only as a backup, you might never exhaust its 
capacity.




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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Metal-air batteries seem to be pretty good for hearing aids.  For EVs, I'm 
not so sure.  The main problem is that they're primary batteries - not 
rechargeable.  When they're discharged, you have to rebuild them.  (Some 
people call them metal fuel cells.) 

Alcan and Unique Mobility worked with Aluminum-Air batteries in the late 
1980s.  They had a prototype system running in an Electrek EV (UM's 
intriguing limited production purpose-built EV) but eventually concluded it 
wasn't practical.  

In the 1990s, an Israeli company, Electric Fuel Corporation, developed Zn-
Air batteries with rebuildable zinc "cassettes."  They collaborated with the 
German Post on a trial program of EVs using these batteries.  After several 
years, the Post concluded that it wasn't a viable system. Electric Fuel 
seems to have pretty much abandoned Zn-Air battery research and now 
concentrates on conventional battery chemistries for industrial, medical, 
and military uses.

http://www.efbpower.com/oem/

This isn't to say it's hopeless, just that there seem to be some substantial 
hurdles for metal-air batteries in EVs.

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Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 5, 2015, at 8:18 AM, len moskowitz via EV  wrote:

> 60 pounds of battery for 1000 miles of range

Before you get too excited...these batteries are not rechargeable. They work by 
combining the aluminum in the battery with atmospheric oxygen -- essentially, 
they burn the aluminum, releasing electrons in the process, and leaving behind 
aluminum oxide. The process isn't reversible -- at least, not by simply 
plugging it into the wall. You'd have to re-refine the aluminum oxide into 
metallic aluminum...which is a notoriously energy-intensive operation, 
something that was practically impossible before the invention of the induction 
furnace.

I don't know what the recycling efficiency is of these batteries, but I'm sure 
it's nowhere near the ~80%+ of a typical rechargeable battery's duty cycle. As 
such, though I'm sure these batteries will serve a vital purpose in the 
not-too-distant future...I'm also pretty sure that purpose won't be as an EV's 
primary traction battery.

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[EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread len moskowitz via EV

60 pounds of battery for 1000 miles of range


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwxX2A041w0


http://www.phinergy.com/


https://youtu.be/k6kIJlgqezE




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[EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon Pack

2015-08-05 Thread len moskowitz via EV

60 pounds of battery for 1000 miles of range


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwxX2A041w0http://www.phinergy.com/
https://youtu.be/k6kIJlgqezE




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[EVDL] EVLN: BRUSA making&selling Qualcomm wireless inductive EVSE

2015-08-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.teleanalysis.com/corporate/qualcomm-and-brusa-sign-wireless-electric-vehicle-charging-agreement-16630.html
Qualcomm and BRUSA Sign Wireless Electric Vehicle Charging Agreement
August 2, 2015

[image  
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]

Qualcomm and BRUSA Elektronik has announced that they have entered into a
Wireless Electric Vehicle Charging (WEVC) patent license agreement.

BRUSA, an automotive Tier 1 power electronics supplier, has licensed
Qualcomm Halo patented inventions to commercialize WEVC systems for Plug-In
Hybrid and Electric Vehicles (EVs). Under the terms of the agreement,
Qualcomm granted to BRUSA a royalty-bearing patent license to develop, make
and supply WEVC systems for certain automobile manufacturers.

Automobile manufacturers around the world have spotted the huge potential of
wireless charging as it is user friendly. BRUSA Elektronik has been
pioneering technology in this area with its “ICS” wireless charging system
which can transfer power to vehicles safely and at high efficiency,
eliminating the need for charging cables currently required by EVs ...

“Qualcomm Halo licensees can bring to market highly efficient,
fit-for-purpose, WEVC systems, which allow convenient charging and improve
the EV driver’s user experience,” added Pazol.

As a leader in the development of highly efficient power electronics for
electric mobility BRUSA will work with certain major automotive
manufacturers to commercialize its wireless charging system including
specific aspects of the Qualcomm Halo inventions.

Josef Brusa, CEO, BRUSA Elektronik said, “Wireless charging will win, it
will give e-mobility a big boost, it will set new, sustainable technology
apart from old gasoline-based technology. We are determined to make wireless
charging a reality. We already offer technically sound and commercially
viable systems to the market and we are excited about the potential of
wireless charging.”

BRUSA is currently working on WEVC systems with several leading automakers
with firm plans to introduce wireless charging in their automobiles in the
near future.
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[EVDL] EVLN: The Hi-Perf DIY theswitchlab.com EV Can Be Built in a Week

2015-08-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://makezine.com/2015/07/29/making-the-switch/
This High-Performance Electric Vehicle Kit Can Be Built in a Week
By Peter Oliver and Jim McGreen  July 29th, 2015

[image  
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(Switch EV)  / Sam Euston

http://i0.wp.com/makezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/S-12-Motor-Left-Side-2.Still008-620x349.jpg
3-phase AC motor attached to swing arm  / Sam Euston

http://i0.wp.com/makezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/S-12-Under-InstP-2.Still003-620x349.jpg
Under the dash: dual brake pedals, steering linkages, and accelerator — step
on it, but don’t call it a gas pedal  / Sam Euston

http://i0.wp.com/makezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/IMG_20150126_152004_143-620x349.jpg
In January 2015, 12 teachers completed training at our facility, where they
assembled two vehicles in one week  / Peter Oliver.
]

What started as an idea to produce our own simple, fun, affordable electric
vehicle has evolved into a DIY project easily assembled by nearly anyone.
The Switch defines a new class of auto — a lightweight, high-capacity,
versatile electric vehicle (EV) that requires minimal resources to
construct, assemble, and drive. It can be built in a single-car garage on
jack stands, or even in a classroom — all you need is a small box of tools
and a 6½-foot door, so it can drive out.

The Switch Lab
Get Switched On Specs and Options DIY kit: $14,000–$30,000 complete,
depending on performance and range options; $6,950 without electrical
components Sporty rack-and-pinion steering; center, left-, or right-hand
driver position Accepts wide range of DC and AC motors 3-wheel disc brakes,
independent front and rear Regenerative braking (with AC motor option)
Batteries: Lead-acid or lithium-ion, 10kWh–30kWh Range: 45–135 miles
(depending on battery option) Charge time: 2.25 hours per 45 miles, for
about $1 (220V 30A power outlet) Gas mileage equivalent: 151mpge Top speed:
Over 100mph (with AC motor option) Acceleration: 0–60mph in 9 seconds (or
faster with gearing options) Turn radius: 38' or less Weight: 1,350lbs
(3-seater option) Chain drive standard, belt drive optional Street legal,
registered as a motorcycle — but doesn’t require helmet or motorcycle
driver’s license!

It all starts in The Switch Lab — a complete DIY kit and education system
consisting of workshops, written and video instructions, detailed plans, and
all the parts. This all-inclusive package enables individuals, schools, or
businesses to assemble their own version of the EV. (Skilled builders can go
it alone with just a DIY kit.)

The Switch Lab workshops help educators and builders gain the confidence and
understanding to complete the project. Teachers appreciate how our workshops
break a complex technology into clear step-by-step modules. They’re also
pleased with the optional curriculum — a classroom and lab in a box. “It’s
really plug and play,” said Roger Pressley of Central Academy of Technology
and Arts in Monroe, North Carolina. “Any school can do this, regardless of
the tools or shop facility. You can start with any space.”

Students seem invigorated by the course, and some are asking if they can
build the Switch as a business. Whether they become Makers, welders, or
engineers, the hands-on learning gives them lifelong lessons, building
self-confidence and real-world skills. “It’s not just a high school class,
it’s something you take with you,” commented a student from Venture Academy
in California.

The Driving Experience
The Switch drives like a Formula One car, hugging the ground and protecting
you with a NASCAR-style roll cage. The open cockpit provides an exhilarating
experience and excellent visibility for safety. Separate front and rear
braking systems enable advanced sport driving techniques.

And, incredibly, you can build it in a week! The chassis is laser-cut,
welded tubular steel, and the wiring is professionally terminated, numbered,
and color-coded — all ready to be assembled.

Customizing the Switch
Imagine bolting on a pickup bed, camper shell, or racks. Select a custom
seating arrangement from one to four. Choose from various DC or AC motors
for performance options defining power, speed, and regenerative braking.
Pick your battery system — budget lead-acid batteries or lithium-ion, from
10kWh to 30kWh battery packs. Adjust the suspension for low, road-hugging
traction, or set it high and firm for hauling loads. There are so many
options, and you get to decide.

Driving Into the Future
We imagine Makers taking the Switch Lab process into global markets via
micro-manufacturing, tailored to local needs and fueled by regional green
power sources. The manufacturing model deepens as regional economies
develop, starting with a fully welded chassis kit and expanding into welding
or laser-cutting parts to spec as the market grows.

The Switch is designed to move people into another world, a world of
voluntary simplicity, respect for the environme

[EVDL] EVLN: SF-CA area i3 owners get $1k to non-peak-charge in 18mo trial

2015-08-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/30/9075007/bmw-i3-electric-car-rebate-san-francisco
BMW i3 owners in the Bay Area are getting $1,000 not to charge at peak hours
By Sean O'Kane  July 30, 2015

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(i3 EV)
]

Up to 100 BMW i3 owners in the San Francisco area are being offered $1,000
to hold off on charging during hours when the electricity grid is stressed
the most. The 18-month trial, which is being run by BMW and Pacific Gas &
Electric Company, started this week. It was originally announced at this
year's CES [
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/pressDetail.html?title=the-bmw-group-together-with-pacific-gas-electric-company-announces-the-bmw-i-chargeforward-program&outputChannelId=9&id=T0199502EN_US&left_menu_item=node__5236
].

The process sounds simple, according to a customer who spoke to Bloomberg.
"My understanding is that we’ll get a text message that says, 'Hey, you’re
charging your car right now, can you back off for an hour?’" BMW customer
Peter Berman told the publication.

"Incentives abound for electric car owners"
The chosen customers will also be eligible for an additional bonus of up to
$540 at the end of the program, but that amount "will be determined by
individual participation levels throughout the 18-month program," according
to BMW. (Drivers have the ability to opt out of participation for one day at
a time, which would presumably lower the amount they're eligible for.) About
400 people have applied and the last few spots are still being filled,
according to BMW. Applications can be submitted at the BMW i ChargeForward
website [
http://www.bmwichargeforward.com/
].

The deal is another in a long line of incentives offered to buyers of
electric vehicles. The United States government offers tax rebates on more
than a dozen different models [
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml
] of electric cars. Power companies have also made a habit of incentivizing
customers not to use power during peak hours by offering time-of-use pricing
and a number of other rebates. The i ChargeForward program is unlikely to
spark sales of the i3 specifically, but by piloting the new program BMW is
helping make the idea of purchasing an electric vehicle even more
attractive.
[© theverge.com]



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/culture/technology/california-bmw-drivers-get-paid-1000-to-delay-charging-cars/article25780592/
California BMW drivers get paid $1,000 to delay charging cars
Dana Hull Bloomberg News  Jul. 30, 2015

In a new pilot program, a California utility is paying drivers of BMW
electric cars to delay charging their vehicles when the power grid is under
pressure.

One hundred owners of BMW AG’s i3 hatchback receive $1,000 upfront to
participate in Pacific Gas & Electric Co.’s 18-month trial, which starts
this week and is confined to the San Francisco Bay Area. Peter Berman, a
70-year-old, semi-retired Los Altos psychologist, was selected from about
400 applicants ...

“My understanding is that we’ll get a text message that says ‘Hey, you’re
charging your car right now, can you back off for an hour?’” said Berman,
who began leasing his $40,000-plus i3 in October. “This is the wave of the
future. We can’t continue to be dependent on gas and oil and coal for our
energy use. I’m really curious as to how this is all going to unfold.”

The PG&E-BMW pilot is one of myriad experiments under way worldwide as
utilities try to anticipate what will happen if (or when) millions of
electric vehicles pour onto city streets and highways. Power companies see
both challenge and promise. Yes, electric cars could put more pressure on
the grid if everyone plugs them in at the same time. But utilities could
also tap batteries for backup power when the grid is under strain or
temporarily knocked out in an emergency, paying drivers for the electricity
harvested from their parked cars.

PG&E estimates that there are 65,000 electric vehicles in its vast northern
California service territory, more than any other utility in the U.S. The
iChargeForward pilot with BMW is an extension of PG&E’s so-called demand
response program: asking industrial customers and large building owners to
cut back on electricity use when demand exceeds available supply.

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The utility is also repurposing used MINI E batteries as stationary storage
for a solar-powered system at BMW’s Technology Office in Mountain View.

“We are quite committed to the adoption of electric vehicles in California,”
said Jana Corey, PG&E’s director of electrification and alternative fuels.
“The BMW pilot is an effort to demonstrate that we can manage the load on
these vehicles in a very reliable way.”

PG&E is also testing technology that will turn customers’ electric vehicles
into mini power plants when there’s high demand on the grid. In Japan,
people have been using Nissan Motor Co

[EVDL] EVLN: Electric Car May Be the Best Choice for Teen Drivers

2015-08-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV


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Why an Electric Car May Be the Best Choice for Teen Drivers
Collin Woodard  July 29, 2015

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After my first car was totaled by a distracted driver on my way home from
the SAT, my aunt was nice enough to give me her 1995 Mazda Protege as a
replacement. It didn't have modern safety features like stability control,
but to most people, it looked like a great car for a teen. It was small,
worth next to no money, reliable, inexpensive to insure, and so horrendously
slow that it would take just over 20 seconds to reach 60 miles per hour if
there were four people in the car.

I also once found an empty, open stretch of road where I was able to get it
up to 95 miles per hour, and if I hadn't slowed down when I did, the
speeding ticket I received wouldn't have probably come with some serious
consequences. Even so, I ended up having to pay a hefty fine for doing 74.

By their very nature, teenagers are terrible at making driving decisions.
Recently, I realized that maybe giving teens used cars is the wrong approach
' maybe the best car to give a teen is actually a brand new electric car.

The best thing about a new electric car is, of course, that it's new.
There's certainly the risk that your teen will crash it, but since they're
new, electric cars come with modern technology and safety features that you
can't always get in budget used cars. The Nissan Leaf, for example, comes
standard with stability control, traction control, and modern airbags. Even
the cheaper Chevrolet Spark EV offers stability control, traction control,
and 10 airbags as standard.

This shouldn't be surprising since new cars are built to meet modern safety
standards. The Nissan Leaf gets four stars from the Insurance Institute for
Highway Safety, as does the Chevrolet Spark. In the event that your beloved
idiot teen driver has a serious wreck, you want to make sure the car they
were driving keeps them safe.

In the hands of a teen driver the disadvantages of an electric car also
become advantages. Not only are they slow, they're also limited to how fast
they can actually drive. The Tesla Model S is an obvious exception that you
shouldn't give to a teenager anyways, but in general, electric cars can't go
much faster than 90 miles per hour. They're also far less efficient at
highway speeds, meaning that even if your teen has the patience to get a
Nissan Leaf up to 90 miles per hour, they're also going to have to watch
their remaining range plummet.

Since higher speeds are less efficient, there's an added incentive for your
teen not to speed excessively. In an electric car with a 300 mile range,
that might not be the case, but with somewhere around 80 miles of range to
play with, your teen will quickly realize how important it is not to
needlessly waste electricity. No one wants to make an embarrassing call home
to mom and dad to tell them the car is dead.

The limited range of most electric cars comes with two other advantages as
well. First, your teen won't be able to travel more than 30 or 40 miles from
home, giving you the peace of mind that he or she will never be too far
away. Second, your teen will also have to spend time thinking about the
future, planning their moves based on the car's available range. Developing
those skills will come in handy since teens generally have little regard for
taking time to make plans.

Assuming you lease the car, electric cars are also easily affordable for
someone working a part-time job. Since there's no gas to buy, they only real
cost is the lease itself. Again, assuming you don't go with a Tesla Model S,
your teen could easily make the payments and still have money left over to
waste on whatever it is that teenagers spend their money on.

Electric cars are also less expensive to insure [
http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/electric-vehicles-now-cheaper-to-insure-and-own-than-gas-cars.html/?a=viewall
], making it even more affordable to lease one than you might have thought.

The only disadvantage is that the lease will run out about the time your
teen heads to college. Then again, a lot of colleges don't allow freshmen to
keep cars on campus, and even those that do are usually set up to make
having a car unnecessary. If a specific need arises for your teen to still
have a car, you can always consider buying the car at the end of the lease.

If you like the idea of car ownership and aren't a big fan of leasing, even
an electric car, used Nissan Leafs are already going for less than $10,000.
Purchasing one or helping your teen purchase one wouldn't be expensive at
all, and you would still see most of the benefits I've already mentioned.

I could definitely see an electric car being a bad choice