Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)
Is wishy washy starting in on this group? Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Jan Steinman via EV > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:42 PM > To: ev@lists.evdl.org; ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org > Subject: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?) > > Oh dear. Someone went and repealed the Second Law of Thermodynamics. > > Jan Steinman > EcoReality Co-op, http://www.EcoReality.org > 2152 Fulford-Ganges Road > Salt Spring Island, BC V8K 1Z7 CANADA > +1 250.653.2024 > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)
Oh dear. Someone went and repealed the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Jan Steinman EcoReality Co-op, http://www.EcoReality.org 2152 Fulford-Ganges Road Salt Spring Island, BC V8K 1Z7 CANADA +1 250.653.2024 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Lawrence's 'SacraTomato' 90+mi trip: Leaf trip to Sacramento-CA ...
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Leaf-trip-to-Sacramento-from-San-Francisco-tp4683478.html Leaf trip to Sacramento from San Francisco ] For those curious about the Leaf term 'battery heat' used, see http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=7648 And a 'light (right) accelerator foot', brings to mind what Clare Bell (Women's Racing Team) had often said in the past, 'Drive like there is an egg under your foot', see: http://www.changeyourcorner.com/articles/eggtrick.php ... imagine you have an egg taped under the toes of your right foot when you drive ... without breaking the egg ... ... http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/travel/a32428/driving-mistakes/ ... 7. You're applying too much pressure to the gas and brake pedals ... to get the best [energy] economy " ... drive like you have an egg under your foot." The more smoothly you accelerate and brake, the further your [energy] will go ... ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Bell#Biography ... Bell also became interested in electric vehicles. After converting a VW beetle to electric with a conversion kit, she began building, racing, repairing, designing, and racing electric cars ... As part of the Women's Electric Racing Team, she competed in the Arizona Public Service utility company's APS Solar and Electric 500 and APS Electrics electric vehicle races, held in Phoenix, Arizona from 1993 to 1997 ... ... http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=437 ... one of the EV industry's most remarkable women ... I am glad Lawrence posted his EV trip on the evdl. It reminds me of the all the many evdl posts I made of my e-trips when I pushed my Blazer EV conversion's range envelope. While Lawrence did not say, I am assuming his 90mi e-trip was on one charge. If so, I am not stating Lawrence's 90mi e-trip did not happen, nor do I have doubts: https://www.google.com/#q=%22range%22+Leaf+miles Leaf range is 84 to 107 mi http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/charging-range/range/ Nissan tool to estimate a trip's range, Enter: San Francisco, CA 94110 & Sacramento, CA 95814 Gives: 89 miles But after reading Lawrence's brief/terse post, I was left hungry for more details (perhaps Lawrence will post more later). So, the following it totally conjecture, and possibly just a brain-exercise, so as to give a whiff of what Lawrence's Leaf-trip was like/about, etc. Evdl old-timers know Lawrence is a musician (from his previous msg trailers). Looking at his professional profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-rhodes-6a79419 ... California Musical Theatre March 1994 – Present (22 years 6 months) Sacramento, California Area Woodwind musician as needed ... [ (CMT) 1510 J Street, Sacramento, CA 95814] So, I will run with him having a 'gig' (gigging) in Sac. as his reason/purpose for the trip. Using the traffic option, and setting it to have him leave at 11am for his ~2hr e-trip to Sac: https://goo.gl/maps/miqC9kRimJ32 traffic really was not that bad (he wisely missed the going-to-work or coming-home traffic mess). Setting the terrain option on that map, I see the only energy-eating hills/mountains were between San Pablo and Cordelia, else most of his trip was flat (not much gravity involved). I have driven this route many years ago, but in an old technology (PbSO4) 50mi EV conversion, which required I charge along the way (I was not able to reach Sac on one charge). My first try was a 50mph to conserve power (I was driving a wind-pusher Blazer EV, which was no-way as low a Cd as a Leaf). But later trips to Sac (I had done six), I found I could get away with driving a little faster at 55mph which got less flying-middle-fingers in my direction). After 90+mi, Lawrence's Leaf EV is going to need a charge in old-town Sac. So, manually peeking and poking (searching) plugshare.com for EVSE near 95814, I found several, but will run-with the following EVSE as where he charged his Leaf because it is less than a mile walking distance from CMT: http://www.plugshare.com/?location=19157 Park Tower Garage Ports 4 EV Plug (J1772)s Address 805 J St., Sacramento, CA, 95814 Phone (916) 442-2217 Hours Garage business hours; pay lot Description Enter from J St., one-way east. CS-40 - ClipperCreek updated J1772 compliant equipment. paid $7 for weekend parking So including those three location points (home, charging, destination) in the map: https://goo.gl/maps/zcF8tvberVA2 Lawrence's Leaf SF to 'SacraTomato' EV-trip 89mi I'll also assume after his gig, he likely stayed overnight either with family, friends or at nearby lodging: https://www.google.com/#q=lodging+near+95814&rflfq=1&rlha=1&rlla=0&rllag=38580139,-121498747,746&tbm=lcl&tbs=ls:-1,lf_hd:-1,lf_maxhp:-1,lf_maxhpitems:75-100-125-200,lf_maxhpcur:USD,lf_msr:-1,lf_hc:-1,lf_ha:0,lf_haitems:767,lf:1,lf_ui:6&hotel_dates=2016-09-11,2016-09-12 Sadly, not too many of the lodging shown offered EVSE. My assumption is Lawrence will return to his SF home via the same route (now fighting a
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 1939 Dodge pickup-truck-ice DIY reborn as an Electric (v)
Bruce, Thank you. Reading about the 1939 Dodge pickup conversion to electric was fun. Alan Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160827/2acb9968/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)
I still don't get it. Even if the technology works, the energy comes from the car. So, let's say our EV takes 250wh / mile from the battery at 50 mph on normal roadway. Now, with the piezo roadway, it takes 251wh / mile. But there are some losses converting that piezo compression to electricity so, by the time it reaches the grid let's say it's 80% of that or 0.8wh. Later, we need to recharge our EV and let's say that process is also 80% efficient. So to get that extra 1wh into the battery takes about 1.2wh. So the net is it took 1.2wh to get 0.8wh of electricity. Wouldn't it be better just to stick with the normal roadway? My numbers are just for example. If I have a flaw in the logic, please point it out. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Michael Ross via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 27-Aug-16 3:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) Maybe in SoCal the roads never get messed up because the weather is so nice? Here in NC our weather swings between -12°C and 40°C, and we get decent rainfall all year, I think of potholes, and nasty dropped pieces of car and truck parts, ladders and lumber, sagging shoulders, bermudagrass infiltrating the pavement, etc., on one hand. And the uncountable millions of wires to collect these electrons? Now buried just below the surface of a roadway. This is going to last how long before it degrades and has to be repaired, and what does that take? Even if it can be done, I doubt the real world, scaled up application works well. I am very doubtful. Maybe someone will devise a fabric that contains piezo elements and conductors, by some very automated, continuous process. There was a project at NC State to make pipe insulation by some sort of non-woven textile process that had thermocouples (a thermopile of them) in it that would make power from the temperature gradient between the inner and outer surfaces. It looked like a real trick to get the current out of it (resistance), and how to connect to it, service it, and change/repair it when damaged. This roadway/power plant is kind of like combining solar PV and solar thermal in the same collector - yeah you can do it but the complication is much greater and all you really get is PV running a little cooler, with better efficiency, if you actually use the thermal to do that. You are far better off having separate collectors on for moving electrons and the other for moving heat. The complication of putting them together negates the added efficiency. You are far better off having a well built, simple, durable road, and a solar farm beside it. I prefer to see some of the real estate beside and in the medians of roadways used for PV. -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160827/eb3205ff/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)
Maybe in SoCal the roads never get messed up because the weather is so nice? Here in NC our weather swings between -12°C and 40°C, and we get decent rainfall all year, I think of potholes, and nasty dropped pieces of car and truck parts, ladders and lumber, sagging shoulders, bermudagrass infiltrating the pavement, etc., on one hand. And the uncountable millions of wires to collect these electrons? Now buried just below the surface of a roadway. This is going to last how long before it degrades and has to be repaired, and what does that take? Even if it can be done, I doubt the real world, scaled up application works well. I am very doubtful. Maybe someone will devise a fabric that contains piezo elements and conductors, by some very automated, continuous process. There was a project at NC State to make pipe insulation by some sort of non-woven textile process that had thermocouples (a thermopile of them) in it that would make power from the temperature gradient between the inner and outer surfaces. It looked like a real trick to get the current out of it (resistance), and how to connect to it, service it, and change/repair it when damaged. This roadway/power plant is kind of like combining solar PV and solar thermal in the same collector - yeah you can do it but the complication is much greater and all you really get is PV running a little cooler, with better efficiency, if you actually use the thermal to do that. You are far better off having separate collectors on for moving electrons and the other for moving heat. The complication of putting them together negates the added efficiency. You are far better off having a well built, simple, durable road, and a solar farm beside it. I prefer to see some of the real estate beside and in the medians of roadways used for PV. -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160827/eb3205ff/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)
First I have to explain that I am an Agile coach. My job is to teach companies and their people to treat EVERYTHING as an unproven hypothesis. Then the work is to either prove or disprove that hypothesis through conducting experiments. The experiments are to be as simple and as inexpensive as possible to yield valid results. The result of each experiment yields new data, and a new set of hypotheses. New experiments are then set up to either prove or disprove these. The process is repeated as needed until a clear strategic path forward is identified. Guessing and assumptions are no longer allowed to be used to determine decisions because they stifle innovation. Therefore, in this case I cannot dismiss the piezo approach until sufficient experiments are run that prove or disprove whether it represents a viable approach. > The movement of the Piezo elements is not > instantaneous, in fact they will generate the most energy when they only > yield slowly to the force, such that the largest possible force over the > largest possible time can act on them. While this is optimal, it it a requirement? In other words, would the Piezo element still generate energy of it were forced to act more quickly? In other words, could there be an optimum reaction response that balances the energy generated while reducing the "uphill effect"? Just wondering... Also, wouldn't the speed of the vehicle significantly impact your example? The ratio to time to travel the slab relative to the response time of the Piezo would see to differ drastically between 15 mph rush hour traffic and 70 mph off peak traffic flow. If the response time were forced tom e a constant, some less that ideal response time would have to be selected based on average speed or some traffic flow/speed optimization. What about only placing the piezo elements at the far end of the concrete slab? And adjust the static angle of the slab to minimize "the uphill effect"? Each slab could have the far end higher than the near end yet the total would actually be level or even a very slight downhill. Of course, driving the wrong direction would be a very unpleasant experience. The city just ground down an entire road near my house because the soil expansion actually produced this effect. I avoided driving down that section until they fixed it because the ride was so unpleasant. The Piezo I saw demonstrated only had a very small range of motion, say less that 1/16" and could react nearly instantaneously by only compressing it between your fingers while generating enough energy to light a led. Put a set if these at the far end supporting a 30' slab of concrete. The rise would be 1/16" over 30'. That comes out to something like 0.00017 degrees of rise. Let's say a 4000 lb vehicle is on that slab. If the slab were perfectly level, all 4000 lbs would result in a pure downward force to deflect the Piezo element with no additional rolling resistance due to a rise. The force vector changes with the 0.00017 degree rise. Now 3999 lbs of force are available to deflect the Piezo element and 1 lb of force is wasted due to the rise. The difference in force vectors is more than 3 orders of magnitude! Off the top of my head, 3 orders of magnitude seems insignificant enough to dismiss as "noise". I would guess that friction in general and the rolling resistance of the tires are larger that that. I wonder what the drag of disk brakes is? I would be willing to wager that I could attach a rope to that vehicle and manually pull it against that load for an entire day. Again, experimen ts would need to be run to prove or disprove this, but being able to use 3999 lbs to generate energy at the cost of only 1 lb seems like a pretty good trade off to me. Obviously not perpetual or free energy but awfully close. At least enough to warrant investigation through experimentation before dismissing the idea completely. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)
Gravity is caused by the distortion in the space time continuum. Mass distorts space time similar to a bowling ball placed on a mattress. If you place a tennis ball on the mattress it will roll towards the bowling ball because space time (i.e. The mattress) is warped. Without a force acting upon it, an object will move in a straight line. If you draw a line on a sheet of paper, and then twist or bend the paper, the line will no longer appear straight. In the same way, the straight path of an object is bent when space and time is bent. This explains why all objects fall at the same rate. The gravity warps spacetime in a particular way, so the straight paths of all objects are bent in the same way near the Earth Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > > Since you seem to have more knowledge about this field than I do... please > enlighten me (and the others on this list) - what is that resistance called > and > how does it make objects crash into the ground. What are the losses? > > Rush Dougherty > Tucson AZ 85719 > > >> -Original Message- >> From: jackinausti...@gmail.com [mailto:jackinausti...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:58 PM >> To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in > Burbank- >> CA(?) >> >> >>> I think you've forgotten about a little pesky thing called gravity... >>> and while the distances maybe similar, the energy needed to get the >>> 'vehicle' back up to the same level, the rise, is more than the energy > gained on the fall. >> >> Best check your physics Rush. That same resistance to rising is what makes > objects >> crash into the ground. While there are losses, gravity isn't one of them. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Leaf trip to Sacramento from San Francisco
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Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)
The basic physics is valid and the other loses are not particularly relevant. When the tire climbs onto a tile (or uncompressed portion of roadway), work is done to combat gravity. That work comes from the car's motor. When the tile descends (or roadway compresses) energy is produced, this time coming from gravity. Only this time, the energy doesn't go back into the car's motor. It goes into the piezo and then becomes electrical energy. So, yes, to produce piezo energy, it will come from the car. Again, the principal question is whether the piezo roadbed will have <= the "squishiness" of a traditional roadbed. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "via EV" To: "Rush Dougherty" Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 27-Aug-16 2:47:12 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?) Force = mass * acceleration due to gravity Work = force * distance So the work required to raise and object a specified distance is the same amount of work retrieved when that object is returned to its original location. If the object remains in the raised position, it contains potential energy. Potential losses might be due to wind resistance, friction, rolling resistance etc. But the losses are not due to gravity. And, as Cor implied, these external losses are what prevent perpetual motion. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)
Force = mass * acceleration due to gravity Work = force * distance So the work required to raise and object a specified distance is the same amount of work retrieved when that object is returned to its original location. If the object remains in the raised position, it contains potential energy. Potential losses might be due to wind resistance, friction, rolling resistance etc. But the losses are not due to gravity. And, as Cor implied, these external losses are what prevent perpetual motion. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160827
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-1939-Dodge-pickup-ice-DIY-reborn-as-an-Electric-truck-v-td4683493.html EVLN: 1939 Dodge pickup-ice DIY reborn as an Electric truck (v) “There is a pretty steep learning curve to converting a vehicle to all electric ... But it is worth it, the first time you drive your EV” ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-40k-Ian-Motion-Austin-Mini-conversion-EVs-aim-to-sell-30-yr-td4683494.html EVLN: €40k Ian Motion Austin Mini conversion EVs aim to sell 30+/yr The French start-up, Ian Motion, has set out to address this by offering a different kind of electric car - one that has been converted from a second-hand petrol car ... The future is looking ever brighter for the rollout of electric cars ... "We really think our solution of existing vehicle electrification (has a big part to play) ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-The-Quickest-Car-gt-a-4-Door-Electric-Family-Sedan-0-60mph-2-5s-td4683495.html EVLN: The Quickest Car> a 4-Door Electric Family Sedan 0-60mph:2.5s On a test drive of a Tesla Model S P90D last fall, I pulled up to a stoplight on Manhattan's West Side Highway and glanced over to find a McLaren 570 in the next ... + http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/WA-commits-12-6M-to-V2G-amp-old-EV-pack-storage-gt-CTO-JB-s-views-td4683496.html WA commits $12.6M to V2G& old-EV-pack storage> CTO JB's views Snohomish Public Utility District has proposed a pilot to show how to leverage batteries in electric vehicles to store and use renewable energy ... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.0catch.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20160827-tp4683498.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: 1939 Dodge pickup-truck-ice DIY reborn as an Electric (v)
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-1939-Dodge-pickup-ice-DIY-reborn-as-an-Electric-truck-v-td4683493.html ] http://www.equipmentworld.com/this-1939-dodge-pickup-has-been-reborn-with-a-new-electric-heart-video/ This 1939 Dodge pickup has been reborn with a new electric heart (VIDEO) August 26, 2016 Tom Quimby [image http://www.equipmentworld.com/files/2016/08/1939-Dodge-electric-pickup.png videos dated https://youtu.be/UtfctFmCWVg 1939 Dodge Electric Truck Part 2 alegatorlex Feb 8, 2014 This video shows all of the machining I had to do, to create the coupler that goes between the shaft of the motor and the flywheel. Next it shows the machining I had to do to create the adapter plate which in turn is bolted to the motor / flywheel assembly on one side, and to the transmission assembly on the other side. Next, you take this assembly and lower it into your vehicle, and you are well on your way to creating an electric vehicle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idgdb--Ax84 1939 Dodge Electric Truck Part 1 - 10:47 Feb 1, 2014 - Uploaded by alegatorlex In this document I will chronicle the conversion of my 1939 Dodge Brothers Pickup Truck from a normal ... ] Hmmm…what would happen if you take a 1939 Dodge pickup and convert into an electric daily driver? A whole lot of fun, according to Al Gajda, who after retiring from IBM finally electrified the truck that had been sitting in his garage for nearly 40 years. “I purchased the truck in New Hampshire in 1973 (or thereabout) for $250,” Gajda writes on his YouTube page, alegatorlex. “Using our Chevy Suburban my wife Mindy towed the truck home with me steering the truck. Once we got into our subdivision I jump started the engine. It ran for a few minutes producing a large cloud of blue smoke. That was the last time the engine ran.” No engine, no problem. Gajda, a self-educated engineer of sorts, bought an electric motor from a company in California that specializes in electric auto conversions and used it in place of the six-cylinder flathead, according to Kentucky.com. A thousand pounds of lithium-ion batteries in the bed provide about 100 miles of range and enough torque to get the truck moving out quickly from any gear of its original 3-speed transmission! He’s gotten the truck up to 75mph and he said it would have gone faster, but he eased off the original 1939 Dodge accelerator pedal. Gajda, 76, loves driving the pickup while running errands and dropping his granddaughter off at school in Kentucky. The pickup is a hit at auto shows or even at local parking lots. “If I park it at Lowe’s or Home Depot, there’ll be people looking at it when I come back,” Gajda explained. “But I usually have to tell them it’s electric.” Gajda learned a lot about electric auto conversions on the internet and along the way became a fan of EVTV.ME (Electric Vehicle Television). “There is a pretty steep learning curve to converting a vehicle to all electric,” Gajda writes on his YouTube site. “But it is worth it, the first time you drive your EV down the street!!!” Gajda offers plenty of advice and encouragement to EV builders through his YouTube videos. [© 2016 EQUIPMENT WORLD] [dated] http://gas2.org/2014/10/01/1939-dodge-truck-converted-into-ev/ 1939 Dodge Truck Converted Into EV Oct 1, 2014 - Self-taught electric engineer Al Gadja has committed what some may consider to be historic car heresy, converting his 1939 Dodge truck into ... ... http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/counties/fayette-county/article44512482.html Why is Lexington man's 1939 Dodge pickup so quiet? Its secret may surprise you Sep 27, 2014 - Some trucks rattle your windows when they pass. ... But even newborns sleep in perfect peace when Gajda drives past in his 1939 Dodge pickup. Electrical vehicles are catching on in dealer showrooms today as gasoline becomes ever more Flames consume part of Lexington house, damage others ... ... [video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-UfykwchvU 1939 Dodge Truck Electric Vehicle Update 004 - 13:38 Dec 13, 2013 - Uploaded by Alfred Gajda I have converted a 1939 Dodge Brothers 1/2 ton pickup truck to be an electric vehicle. This video details ... ] For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.0catch.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-1939-Dodge-pickup-truck-ice-DIY-reborn-as-an-Electric-v-tp4683497.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] WA commits $12.6M to V2G& old-EV-pack storage> CTO JB's views
Tesla CTO JB Straubel On Why EVs Selling Electricity To The Grid Is ... In an electric vehicle that has 200+ miles of range, you don't need as many cycles as you do on a battery that's designed to charge and discharge every single ... http://www.utilitydive.com/news/washington-commits-126m-to-grid-modernization-effort/424867/ Washington commits $12.6M to grid modernization effort August 22, 2016 Robert Walton Dive Brief: Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) has committed $12.6 million in Clean Energy Fund grants to five Washington state utilities for projects focused on renewable integration and grid modernization. The grants will fund projects proposed by Avista, Seattle City Light, Orcas Power and Light, Snohomish County Public Utility District and Energy Northwest. The state's funding will be matched by utilities and their partners. The projects include solar installations, battery storage and microgrids. Avista's proposal would develop a “shared energy economy” allowing a wide range of grid resources to be used for multiple purposes. Dive Insight: Washington state's grid modernization efforts drew praise from U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz, who was on hand in Seattle for the announcement. “Gov. Inslee and the state of Washington continue to champion clean energy innovation. Driving innovation is at the core of how our country maintains its leadership in developing clean, low-carbon energy technologies,” Moniz said. Inslee and Moniz made the announcement last week at the Northwest Regional Clean Energy Innovation Partnership Workshop. The event is jointly hosted by the University of Washington and the Pacific Northwest National Lab. “With these awards, our leading utilities will demonstrate how to integrate battery storage with solar energy and stand-alone energy systems, train the workforce to build and maintain these systems, and lead the industry into the clean energy future,” Inslee said. While four of the utilities proposed more standard grid modernization projects, Avista is planning to pilot a “shared energy economy." According to the announcement, the project "allows various energy assets — from solar panels and battery storage to traditional utility assets — to be shared for multiple purposes, including system efficiency and grid resiliency. It will demonstrate how the consumer and utility can each benefit." “We know the future will look different as new technologies continue to change the energy landscape," said Heather Rosentrater, Avista's vice president of Energy Delivery. "Today, customers are buying, installing and using distributed energy resources, and actually participating in the grid. We are committed to ensuring our system will be flexible enough to meet the changing expectations and future needs of consumers.” Seattle City Light has proposed a solar-powered microgrid at a designated emergency shelter, which will keep fire stations, community centers and communication networks operating during an outage. Orcas Power & Light, a cooperative utility serving 20 islands in the San Juan archipelago, is planning to deploy a community solar system to extend the life of the its underwater supply cable. The coop buys most of its power from Bonneville Power Administration's hydro assets, and delivers it to the islands through submerged cables. It serves about 15,000 meters. Snohomish Public Utility District has proposed a pilot to show how to leverage batteries in electric vehicles to store and use renewable energy. The provider will combine battery storage, microgrid and solar technologies, "connecting this integrated technology to the electric vehicle fleet." And Energy Northwest will bring together its 28 utilities with labor leaders at a local union, Quanta Services/Potelco and the UW Clean Energy Institute, to create a "battery and solar competency training facility." [© 2016 Industry Dive] http://cleantechnica.com/2016/08/22/vehicle-to-grid-used-ev-batteries-grid-storage/ Tesla CTO JB Straubel On Why EVs Selling Electricity To The Grid Is Not As Swell As It Sounds August 22nd, 2016 ... V2G & ... Reusing EV batteries for grid storage ... jump straight to JB’s answers ... ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Tesla-CTO-JB-s-pack-tech-expertise-StanfordU-BS-energy-sys-MS-energy-engg-tp4683317.html Tesla CTO JB's pack-tech expertise> StanfordU BS energy sys & MS energy engg Aug 15 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.0catch.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/WA-commits-12-6M-to-V2G-old-EV-pack-storage-CTO-JB-s-views-tp4683496.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NE