Re: [Evolution-hackers] about building evolution with Kylix onlinux
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:50, Antonio Xu wrote: > Hello, All > I have tried to build evolution with Kylix's c complier, but I > was failed, did you think it is possible build evolution with Kylix, I > think if we can do it,it will improve our developing efficiency , Kylix > is a very powerful develop tool, we can debug evolution with it. > who have any ideal about it? it is just a discuss. > Best regard > Antonio Xu hi, just out of curiosity - kylix POS used by 2% of the community - gcc and gdb GPL used by 98% of the community why wasting days or weeks in supporting something that is basically never used by anyone. not to mention that the enduser (only an assumption) does not care and not to mention of the binary incompatibility between EVOLUTION vs. the rest of the system e.g. different compiler == diferent binaries == different compatibilities. just my 0.2cents -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Re: The schedule of Evolution1.4-[Evolution] porting to Gtk2/Gnome2
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 07:05, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > It really won't be much different than 1.2 (well, exactly the same > except using the gtk2 toolkit instead of gtk1.2) as far as I know. one question remains: how will you manage to have evolution for gnome 2.x follow the HIG and on the same time have it outlook compatible ? -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback Evolution 1.1.1
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 00:24, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > When you delete a message, it isn't removed from the mbox file and so > nor is it removed from the ibex files as it is very possible that the > user will decide to undelete it. > > You'll notice that unless you have Evolution set to "Hide Deleted > Messages", you will still see the deleted message in the message list > but it will just be striked out. > > Expunge purges deleted messages from the mbox file. Some mail clients > like Netscape call this "Compact Folder" or whatever. i give you an example now maybe it explains it better. i just copied 1368 mails to my Drafts folder the results look like this: bash-2.05b$ ls -l Drafts/ total 9040 1 galaxy users 97 Sep 22 22:37 folder-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users 95 Sep 23 05:13 local-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users 715 Sep 23 05:18 mbox 1 galaxy users 294750 Sep 23 05:18 mbox.ev-summary 1 galaxy users 24 Sep 23 05:18 mbox.ibex.index 1 galaxy users 991908 Sep 23 05:18 mbox.ibex.index.data bash-2.05b$ now i delete all mails in the Drafts folder and i will do an 'Empty Trash' and 'Expunge' only to make it clear. the results look like this: bash-2.05b$ ls -l Drafts/ total 1636 1 galaxy users 97 Sep 22 22:37 folder-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users 95 Sep 23 05:13 local-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users 0 Sep 23 05:22 mbox 1 galaxy users 21 Sep 23 05:22 mbox.ev-summary 1 galaxy users 24 Sep 23 05:22 mbox.ibex.index 1 galaxy users 991908 Sep 23 05:18 mbox.ibex.index.data bash-2.05b$ hope this clears some stuff up. now i copied exactly one email to the Drafts folder. the results look like this: bash-2.05b$ ls -l Drafts/ total 1640 1 galaxy users 97 Sep 22 22:37 folder-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users 95 Sep 23 05:13 local-metadata.xml 1 galaxy users2064 Sep 23 05:23 mbox 1 galaxy users 252 Sep 23 05:23 mbox.ev-summary 1 galaxy users 667648 Sep 23 05:23 mbox.ibex.index 1 galaxy users 992796 Sep 23 05:23 mbox.ibex.index.data bash-2.05b$ you can imagine if i deal with large mailinglists such as lkm then i get a lot of emails each day, now if i delete the stuff and see how the ibex files stays the same size and enlargens itself more and more then at the end (2-3 months) i end up in a 50 mb ibex file and a 500kb mbox file (if i keep it short e.g. 50-100 emails). i call this a serious issue that needs to get urgently nailed down. btw: i hope i wasn't offensive. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback Evolution 1.1.1
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 00:24, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 18:32, Ali Akcaagac wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 23:24, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > > > > create a mbox file and try copying 8000-1 emails into that, you get > > > > > a 40-50 mb mbox file. now delete as many mails until 500 emails remain, > > > > > the mbox file decreases to e.g. 5 mb but the index files are keeping > > > > > their large size AND increases by every new added message > When you delete a message, it isn't removed from the mbox file and so > nor is it removed from the ibex files as it is very possible that the > user will decide to undelete it. and that's exactly the problem. when deleting messages i usually 'delete the trash' before exiting evolution. look at the quote above with the 1 emails. i would have been thankfull if you at least would have read it. 1 mails == 50 mb deleted down to just 500 mails == 5mb as example. the 5 mb is the mbox file that was 50 mb before and that got shrinked to 5 mb. so what's the deal with 'empty trash' vs. 'expunge' the way it works here an empty trash really removes the stuff that i really deleted from the mbox files. so why doesn't the ibex files get shrinked aswell ? is it really necessary to make an expunge after you really trashed the trash ? that's like shutting down the candle light with a stone and use a spot to verify that it is realy down. > You'll notice that unless you have Evolution set to "Hide Deleted > Messages", you will still see the deleted message in the message list > but it will just be striked out. > > Expunge purges deleted messages from the mbox file. Some mail clients > like Netscape call this "Compact Folder" or whatever. excuse me. the feedback i sent here wasn't meant to be a 'how do i use evolution request' it was more to point you to some serious problems that i have verified during the long time i was using evolution. i recall that i already pointed some of these issues on irc to you. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback Evolution 1.1.1
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 23:24, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > > create a mbox file and try copying 8000-1 emails into that, you get > > > a 40-50 mb mbox file. now delete as many mails until 500 emails remain, > > > the mbox file decreases to e.g. 5 mb but the index files are keeping > > > their large size AND increases by every new added message > > > > I'll let Michael Zucchi answer this. As far as I know, they do in fact > > shrink - but maybe it's a lazy-shrink or something. > > > > besides, those files are only 400k, not exactly "large" when compared to > > a 50MG mbox. > > Okay, just thought of something... you never said you Expunged the mbox > files, and as such - of course the ibex files won't shrink! > > Have you tried Expunging the folders? expunging ? i never used that since i don't know what it is good for. i usually assume that when deleting stuff from my mailboxes that the index files enchances in size on its own. never thought of an requirement to press another button just to shrink the ibex files too. but thanks for letting me know. i will enable expunge on exit. hopefully it will solve all issues. otherwise fine work on evolution i like it. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback Evolution 1.1.1
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 23:22, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > a) signatures: i am used to the way of 1.0.8 where i could point to my > > signature file and it gets used. with the new evolution i dont have such > > an option and get pointed to the evolution editor to create a new one. > > please make it possible again to point to a file instead. > > We fought for this, but were shot down by management. ahh sad i was really used to that. after fiddling around more clearly with the preferences i found some 'solutions' that may suit my needs and that i can live with. but the first time presenter where you can choose the signature was horrible. after i made myself halfway comfortable with the new preferences stuff i found the signature section which was more clear. by the way. in the mailserver editor, you have the possibility to ADD a signature i played 10 mins and more to try to REMOVE signatures again. once again i found out about it after i investigated more. a tip: it would be good when doing an 'add signature' and you cancel the signature editor that the ADDED signature WONT get added at all since i canceled it. > > b) reading new mails: i got horrified that 'n' doesn't work anymore. it > > got replaced by pressing [ or ] i am using a german keyboard and not a > > US keyboard so i need to press ALT-GR + 8 or ALT-GR + 9 to either read > > new mails or not. i am not sure if this is changable with exporting LANG > > but i prefer using english native language AS IS together with a german > > keyboard layout. > > Again, decision by management. Michael Zucchi and I were happy with 'm' > and 'p', but since Outlook converts are what pay us money, Evolution was > changed to mimic Outlook's functionality which uses alphebtic keys for > searching which meant that we had to use ',' and '.' or '[' and ']' > (both sets work). ahh cool, ',' and '.' is ok for me, new to use but i think i will get used to it. please don't think about removing it otherwise i get hard times with threaded new messages and pressing ALT-GR + x all the time. > > c) index files. > > > > 394240 Sep 22 22:57 mbox.ibex.index > > 397556 Sep 22 22:57 mbox.ibex.index.data > > > > create a mbox file and try copying 8000-1 emails into that, you get > > a 40-50 mb mbox file. now delete as many mails until 500 emails remain, > > the mbox file decreases to e.g. 5 mb but the index files are keeping > > their large size AND increases by every new added message > > I'll let Michael Zucchi answer this. As far as I know, they do in fact > shrink - but maybe it's a lazy-shrink or something. > > besides, those files are only 400k, not exactly "large" when compared to > a 50MG mbox. no, it was just an example telling you what files i was refering to. > > d) addressbook > > > > same as c) > > The addressbook doesn't have ibex files as far as I'm aware. no, i am generally speaking about the addressbook.db file not the ibex file. e.g. add 100 addresses and remove them all again. the size of that file remains in takt, when adding new addresses the file enlargens. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Feedback Evolution 1.1.1
first of all i like the new evolution 1.1.1. it looks cool and works fine so far but here are some disadvantages that imo was bad. a) signatures: i am used to the way of 1.0.8 where i could point to my signature file and it gets used. with the new evolution i dont have such an option and get pointed to the evolution editor to create a new one. please make it possible again to point to a file instead. b) reading new mails: i got horrified that 'n' doesn't work anymore. it got replaced by pressing [ or ] i am using a german keyboard and not a US keyboard so i need to press ALT-GR + 8 or ALT-GR + 9 to either read new mails or not. i am not sure if this is changable with exporting LANG but i prefer using english native language AS IS together with a german keyboard layout. c) index files. 394240 Sep 22 22:57 mbox.ibex.index 397556 Sep 22 22:57 mbox.ibex.index.data create a mbox file and try copying 8000-1 emails into that, you get a 40-50 mb mbox file. now delete as many mails until 500 emails remain, the mbox file decreases to e.g. 5 mb but the index files are keeping their large size AND increases by every new added message d) addressbook same as c) i hope you welcome this feedback ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Fwd: Re: Welcome To "evolution"!]
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 12:10, Lloyd D Budd wrote: > > http://www.helixcode.com/apps/evolution-faq.php3>; please refer well the whole nation knews that helix got renamed into ximian. http://www.ximian.com and search there. -- Name....: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] poll: patch to optionally disable HTML mail?
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 00:43, Colin Walters wrote: > Have you ever been annoyed by HTML email? Do you want to have the > option not to see 66 pt. bold red headers that someone decided to > write? Is the only HTML email you get spam, and you'd like to have the > option to turn it into an attachment? Do you know anyone else who would > like this option? hello, here my 0.2cents i think your patch is a nice idea but if you want to seriously do something against that spamshit then a "pop3: filter" would be more powerfull. i have seen such a feature in kmail and would be glad to see such a feature in evolution. before downloading emails, it checks your pop3 (maybe imap) server for spam (by applying the filter on it) lets say one of the most annoying spammers are from .co.kr so you create a *@*.co.kr filter and (if you have chosen it of course) deletes/bounce/forward that crap before you download it. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] PROBLEMS cvs 1.0.2
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 19:53, Ali Akcaagac wrote: > b) evolution loses mailbox password pop3 password :) -- Name....: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] PROBLEMS cvs 1.0.2
2 problems that i want to point out a) evolution is losing preferences every now and then. often when pressing a mailbox in evolution the pane loses value and goes to value=126 and i need to readjust it. b) evolution loses mailbox password c) there has been some gal changes recently. i think some of you remember that i pointed out the issue with not beeing able to enter stuff in empty TO: CC: Subject: fields. well the problem has been solved so far but there is another issue. e.g. if you click on TO: CC: and then Subject: the cursor remains in Subject: and starts blinking. if you move to the area and want to start writing an email the cursor still remains blinking in the Subject field so i have 2 cursors blinking this could be somehow annyoing because somethimes you dont really see if you type text or typing a subject. echo "--- GTKHTML ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r gtkhtml-1-0-branch gtkhtml cvs -z3 update -Pd -r gtkhtml-1-0-branch gtkhtml echo "--- EVOLUTION ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r evolution-1-0-branch evolution cvs -z3 update -Pd -r evolution-1-0-branch evolution echo "--- NAUTILUS ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r nautilus-gnome-1 nautilus cvs -z3 update -Pd -r nautilus-gnome-1 nautilus galaxy@ulixys:~ > gnome-config --modversion --libs oaf oaf-0.6.8 galaxy@ulixys:~ > CVS galaxy@ulixys:~ > gnome-config --modversion --libs bonobo bonobo-1.0.19 galaxy@ulixys:~ > RELEASE -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] CVS 1.0.2 borkage
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 16:56, Tomar wrote: > > There is more to gtkhtml than just gtkhtml. :-) > > What version of oaf and bonobo do you use? and what help do you give me. i have talked about that stuff over and over with kmarras already. galaxy@ulixys:~ > gnome-config --modversion --libs oaf oaf-0.6.8 galaxy@ulixys:~ > CVS galaxy@ulixys:~ > gnome-config --modversion --libs bonobo bonobo-1.0.19 galaxy@ulixys:~ > RELEASE -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] cvs evolution problems
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 15:47, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: > Hm, I have never seen this. > > Is anyone else experiencing this behavior? this happened with the recent 1-0 stable CVS commits. i cant say which day exactly - before this it never happened. this stuff happens every now and then for 50 mails around 10 times and can be really annyoing. -- Name....: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] CVS 1.0.2 borkage
On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 02:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > You need to use the gtkhtml 1-0 branch. GtkHTML HEAD has some API/ABI > breakage. my fault: echo "--- GTKHTML ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r gtkhtml-1-0-branch gtkhtml cvs -z3 update -Pd -r gtkhtml-1-0-branch gtkhtml echo "--- EVOLUTION ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r evolution-1-0-branch evolution cvs -z3 update -Pd -r evolution-1-0-branch evolution echo "--- NAUTILUS ---" #cvs -z3 checkout -r nautilus-gnome-1 nautilus cvs -z3 update -Pd -r nautilus-gnome-1 nautilus everything is 1-0 branch... so the problems are still valid.. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] CVS 1.0.2 borkage
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 18:45, Tomar wrote: > This means that the gtkhtml editor component failed to > run. Something is out of date. Do you compile your own > gtkhtml, bonobo, etc? yes. i recompiled my gnome system 3 days ago with these packages (see applied script) i gal (branch 1-0), evolution (branch 1-0) and gtkhtml (head) was downloaded the same day as i compiled it btw. its not an compiled over old.. its a compiled from scratch gnome. but this problem only once happened. -- Name....: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa #!/bin/sh # Begin /tmp/dognome #mv /usr/local /usr/local2 #mkdir /usr/local #cd /usr/local #mkdir bin etc include lib sbin share src tmp var #ln -s share/man man #ln -s share/doc doc #ln -s share/info info #cd /usr/local/share #mkdir dict doc info locale man nls misc terminfo zoneinfo #cd /usr/local/share/man #mkdir man1 man2 man3 man4 man5 man6 man7 man8 man9 mann #cd /usr/local/share #ln -s ../../share/aclocal aclocal #ln -s ../../share/sgml sgml #cd /tmp/gnome/popt-1.6 && \ #echo "1" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && sed "s/#include /#include \n#include /g" popt.c >popt.c.tmp && mv popt.c.tmp popt.c && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/zlib-1.1.3 && \ #echo "2" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --shared && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/tiff-v3.5.7 && \ #echo "3" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --noninteractive && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/libungif-4.1.0b1 && \ #echo "4" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && sed "s/#define HAVE_VARARGS_H 1//g" config.h >config.h.tmp && mv config.h.tmp config.h && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/libpng-1.2.1 && \ #echo "5" >/tmp/gnome.log && make -f scripts/makefile.linux && make -f scripts/makefile.linux install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/jpeg-6b && \ #echo "6" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-shared --enable-static && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/glib-1.2.10 && \ #echo "7" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/gtk+-1.2.10 && \ #echo "8" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/pkgconfig-0.8.0 && \ #echo "9" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/ORBit-0.5.13 && \ #echo "10" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/audiofile-0.2.2 && \ #echo "11" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/esound-0.2.23 && \ #echo "12" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/guile-1.4 && \ #echo "13" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/libunicode-0.4 && \ #echo "14" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/intltool-0.12 && \ #echo "15" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/libxml-1.8.17 && \ #echo "16" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/scrollkeeper-0.2 && \ #echo "17" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome/imlib-1.9.11 && \ #echo "18" >/tmp/gnome.log && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install && ldconfig && \ #cd /tmp/gnome
[Evolution-hackers] CVS 1.0.2 borkage
this just happened... see the attached picuture... i wanted to reply on an email and this happened. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa snap.png Description: PNG image
Re: [Evolution-hackers] cvs evolution problems
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 12:24, Ali Akcaagac wrote: > lemme point you to some problems with evolution CVS 1-0 branch. lets say > i got 45 new mails and have them shown in the preview down-left now, > whenever i click to a new mail with the mouse. the mail should show up > in the preview pane down-left. but on some situations ONE MOUSECLICK > opens the full mail viewer. normally this should come up when you double > click on that mail but evolution seem to play mad in some situations. :%s/down-left/down-right/g :-) -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] cvs evolution problems
hello, lemme point you to some problems with evolution CVS 1-0 branch. lets say i got 45 new mails and have them shown in the preview down-left now, whenever i click to a new mail with the mouse. the mail should show up in the preview pane down-left. but on some situations ONE MOUSECLICK opens the full mail viewer. normally this should come up when you double click on that mail but evolution seem to play mad in some situations. any solutions for this please -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Soup for all
> I've just committed code to the HEAD of evolution that requires Soup to > be installed. I think this can be got from CVS. another dependency ? oh no... -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] BUG: 1.0.1 - cant enter TO: CC: SUBJECT fields
hi, there's a major flaw in evolution 1.0.1 (CVS 1.0 branch from today) i'ts impossible entering stuff in subject: to: cc: or whatever fields if the fields are empty in the composer. things looks different if there was something in the fields before. i think there is some strange focusing problems. anyone else recognizing this ? -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] evolution's addressbook borkage
hello there, i am using evolution for quite a while now and recently tried my first steps with the addressbook manager and think that there's quite some work to be done before i call it usable. well, the addressbook ain't bad but there are some sideeffects that makes it bad. import from gnomecard: °° i think the gnomecard importer kinda sucks, the file imported are getting stored incorrectly e.g. the addressbook place is in ~/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook.db and by default it contains the Ximian (tm) address and phonestuff. but doing an import of my gnomecards. then this file is stored in ~/evolution/local/addressbook.db so i need to 'oaf-slay' evolution after doing this step and move the addressbook over to the right place. disadvantage, the ximian address gets deleted. other solution i create a link to the directory above and import then, then my gnomecard addresses are beeing imported correctly including the Ximian (tm) address. after this, delete the link. maintaining the addressbook: here is a big disadvantage, after importing the gnomecard bookmarks, i detect that a lot of stuff disappeared. e.g. 2nd or 3rd homeaddress, 4th and 5th (continous) email address etc. not only this, also a lot of orphaned information are beeing stored into the addressbook itself. e.g. if you load the addressbook datafile into (vim) i know, i know it's a binary file but just for the sake of showing what i mean. you figure out that your data is often stored with a lot of empty VCARD directives or e.g. if you made a perfect gnomecard addressfile (text) and you handedit this to be perfect, then the result during maintainance under evolution after importing changes. e.g. empty field of evolution (empty, because no single space or character is in the field) are beeing thread as information and saved into the database too, this causes the empty VCARD directives i am trying to point out. also if you change values in the addressbook itself, then these things are stored but opening the file with vim shows them that they are saved double times (in evolution they appear only one time) but in the datafile 2-x times. if you worked with your addressbook then open it's datafile in your prefered editor and see what i am talking off. you figure things out easily if you look on what is shown in evolution and what is shown in the datafile. borkages in the addressbook: importing gnome card, as i said some values disappeared but other values aren't shown in the addressbook until you go into the addressbook editor and select stuff. e.g. addresses aren't shown. you need to select the homeaddress, then the values are shown and only then beeing stored to be viewable in the card format view. another issue: °° if you use 'Mr. Mrs. Ms. Dr.' etc in the persons title and use e.g. Mr. continous for several people then you always get a warning spit out, that the person is already present and if you want to go any further. resumee: all in all i like evolution but i dislike the addressbook and i dislike more how stuff (data itself) are beeing stored into the datafiles. since addresses are essential stuff for daily work, so i would really like to see my data beeing saved more carefully. i for now still use gnome-pim for this, well the program may have some sideeffects but at least i have the possibility to do some manual tweaking's of the gnomecard file within an editor to make it suitable for my needs. i can't do this with the evolution berkeley database so i really depend on what you guys offer. comments welcome.. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] html component
On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 16:56, Michael Vanderford wrote: > I've been looking for a good wyswyg html editor for linux. well, its not wyswyg but i call mine 'vim' others here may call their 'xemacs' :-) -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution CVS wants me to DOWNgrade db3???
On Thu, 2001-12-06 at 20:28, Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote: > checking db3 header version... configure: error: Found db.h is not > version 3.1.17 > > I have db3 version db3-3.2.9-4. evolution-1.0-ximian.3 (the RPM) > installed OK. Something's screwy. 3.1.17 != 3.2.9 first one is required. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] ylwrap dependency
hello, question: now that 1.0 was officially out, i wanted to point you guys to an problem that i have. i am able to solve this problem within 2 seconds but it would be needfull to fix this anyways. i use automake1.5, autoconf2.50. gettext and libtool are out of subject i think. when doing: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local --with-db3=/tmp/db3 the configure script is generated correctly and the make process starts. db3 will be found too without problems. after some seconds the directory libcal will be joined and in one subdir within it i get the error: ../../ylwrap not found i then need to copy the ylwrap link which is in the topdir of evolution to the libcal directory and re-run make again. everything works properly then. it would be nice to avoid this step and let the configure or make- process do this copy or link automatically. cheers.. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
RE: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 23:02, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote: > There's no reason why the same method wouldn't work for emacs. I guess I thought > that most emacs users run a mail client _inside_ of emacs, and wouldn't > be interested in evolution at all. :) heh :-) who want's to run an OS inside a mail client not to count what takes longer to load.. evolution or emacs :) -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] to be usable
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 16:44, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > - why put a "--" before my signature? the signature in my signature file > > is my full signature and I don't would like to add an extra line with > > 2 dash! > > Because this is standard netiquette. The -- indicates the start of the > signature. from what i know its not just netiquette... its also painted in one of these so called RFC's but don't ask me which one :) -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] evolution forgets passwords
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 07:15, Tomar wrote: > I used to see this happen if I had automatic mail check, > for instance every 10 minutes, but failed to enter a > password in the interval, which was 10 minutes. I couldn't > see anything wrong with the code and it was "worked around" well excuse me.. remember password is 'remembering password' no matter if i check emails automatically in 10 mins intervals or get the stuff from my popaccount by pressing send/receive. anyways if the dialog comes up requesting for the password again then it's definately lost. closing the dialog and pressing send/receive manually afterwards won't help you are forced to re-enter the password. for me it's clear that it's broken. these workarounds like 'disable that feature' or 'do this and that' is in no way commentable from my side since these options are in there because someone thought and discussed this with others. it makes no sense for not using some features to avoid problems that may happen. even ye' olde balsa behaves correcty with the same feature. i am often out of house and my little UNI 1mb limmit mailbox exceeds per day so i let the dialup running the whole day in hope that it fetches all my mails in 10 mins intervals. what good will a interval checker give me if it fails because of forgetting passwords ? -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] evolution forgets passwords
hello, while having nautilus running for several hours in the background and letting it do a mailcheck within 10 mins interval, i detected that it loses the remembered password every now and then. so i am forced to re-enter and have it remember again. could this be reviewed and maybe fixed ? evolution CVS HEAD that is. last compile this morning. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] another suggestions before 1.0 :)
hello, as more i play with evolution, as more i gonna like it. now here are another pile of things i would like to see in evolution before the final 1.0 release comes out (only if possible) functional issue - apply to all mailboxes feature e.g. i like to have my mails sorted in a special date way and threaded. now going through 20 different mbox's and changing this behaviour could somehow be a pain (yeah i know you do it once and never again) but it would be cool to have some kinda 'change all mailboxes to current settings' or defined as global settings. - in the addressbook it would be cool to have the actual view beeing stored so it comes back after i relaunch evolution the next time. e.g. currently i get the 'address-cards' view but i like the 'phones-list' much more because of readability issues but the setting doesnt get saved. a bug ° - i know bugzilla would have been the better place for this one now but since i write this mail i think i could add that one too. does'nt hurt. /me has still horrible visions from reporting mozilla bugs on bugzilla some year back :). when creating a new mbox e.g. you get a new mail and you click on it now you press 'actions->move to folder' in the menu and say create a new mbox and you enter the name, the ok button is insensitive and you can't do a new mbox. now you go to menu file->new->folder. you get the same situation but at least you can enter the foldername and press return and it will be created. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] 3 things i want to mention
hello, i am doing some minor dev stuff for balsa the past months and used some earlier versions of evolution cvs. and also followed the discussions made on the mailinglist. today i decided to try it out again to see how far it came since the older one was'nt really stable. i must say that you guys did a really nice job on evolution and it will for sure get a wide userbase. keep on the cool work and keep gnome the best usable desktop around. now you guessed that this isn't the reason why i am writing these lines. i investigated into evolution for a while and this is what cames out. it would be cool if you guys could investigate into this and offer some solutions before official 1.0 release. some of these things may be a known issue already, some of these things may have been reported by others already. since i can't keep track on everything, please allow me to state my comments: gui issue: °° - i use sawfish (as probably many of you guys do) and am really a customize kinda person e.g. positioning windows on certain x/y locations and do a custom dimension on them. well now the first time evolution came up, the 'splash' window comes up centered on my working window. now i have placed evolution on the top right corner of my window and adjusted it's dimensions and x/y position. after closing evolution and restarting it, i realized that the splash window follows the last stored x/y origin of the main evolution window. in this case the splash window moves up right to the same origin as the last saved window position. well this isn't a big deal but it would be nice to have splashscreens behave somekinda consistant e.g. to gnome's splashscreen (no border (window decorations) and always centered). security issue: °°° - one comment about directory and file security.. i know that the evolution homedir is set to 700 but anyways. it could happen one day that the user sets the permissions to 755 by mistake. this allows other users to access the directory and read private email. since a lot of mbox files are set to 644 (imported ones luckely to 600) but new created ones like trash, draft, sent etc has 644. same situation for the addressbook... dunno if someone mentioned this before.. i had to set a lot of stuff manually by hand. it would be fine if evolution would take care of correct flags e.g. for the PASSWORD file, for the mbox files and for the addressbook... usability issue: - another thing that i saw and think is a bit unintuitive: when writing an email and you choose some person from the addressbook, only his name e.g. 'Ali Baba' show up in the to: field. now if the person has 3-4 different email addresses, you don't see which one is used. i figured out after a while that pressing right mouse over the to: field brings up an popup menu where you can select the right address. anyways. for better visibility is there a way to show the complete EMAIL address in the TO: field ? same for CC to more people ? -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Problem compiling Evo from CVS
On 2001.10.05 21:16:03 +0200 Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > processing ./libical > > deletefiles is > > Running libtoolize... > > You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal. > > Putting files in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR, `..'. > > Running aclocal -I /opt/share/aclocal -I /gnome2/share/aclocal ... > > Running autoheader... > > Running automake --gnu ... > > src/libical/Makefile.am: CLEANFILES must be set with `=' before using `+=' > > **Error**: automake failed. > > > hmm, you're using debian unstable, right? Since I've had this same > problem with the latest debian packages of auto*. I've got: > > ii autoconf2.52-2 automatic configure script builder > ii automake1.5-1 A tool for generating GNU > Standards-compliant > > The quick-and-dirty solution is to just change that line to be > 'CLEANFILES = ...', that is, remove the +=. > > If you find the real solution, please tell me. i dont edit anything i do this.. ./autogen.sh then manually again (sounds strange but do it) automake -a autoconf then i use ./configure for everything else.. this often work without problems. if you then get 'sed' error then move XML-I18n. in the configure.in file exacly below AC_INIT -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] wvHtml
On 2001.09.10 18:10:44 +0200 Lauren Matheson wrote: > Could wvHtml be used to view .doc's inline in Evolution? Is this > something that I could do through settin MIME types, or is this a get > dirty with the code problem? excuse me, we had this kinda discussion on BALSA mailinglist some days ago too. well DOCS are attachments and should behave as attachments. and yes its a mime types related thing, unfortunately gnome understands mime types as DEFINITION and not from contents, usually you get such things either as octett set or as doc document, depends who sent you the stuff. i recomment you read the related RFC's of how attachments should behave or join our BALSA mailinglist since we discuss such thinsg really often. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] SPAM ANNOYANCE
hello! i am on a bunch of mailinglists but theres no one of them compareable to the evolution one where i get so much commercial SPAM shit. is there a mailinglist moderator that might take care for such shit ? -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Lock file error /var/spool/mail
On 2001.06.03 20:12:51 +0200 Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > Of course I was logged in as root, a local user is not allowed to make > any chown or chmod change to /var/spool/mail. > There should be a better way, as Netscape mail can live with it, why > can't Evolution. yeah netscape is different it uses its own maildir and handles its mail in a different way. you can tell evolution not to touch your local mail if you dont want so this problem doesnt appear anymore. if you want to import the messages there, then theres no other way that i know off. or do this... copy the "tsj" file to ~/Evolution/./Inbox/mbox or how its called and you got your emails.. but thats not the best way since you cant poll your local mailbox anymore.. you definitely want to set that directory to 1777 change your permissions file of linuxconf no matter what you say. you need to.. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Lock file error /var/spool/mail
> I tried, but linuxconf change it back again - chown root.mail and chmod > 0775. > Brgds > Torben ;--- > > login as root > > > > cd /var/spool > > chmod 1777 mail > > chown root.root mail > > cd /var/spool/mail > > chmod 600 tsj > > chown tsj.users tsj i said login as root and not 'using linuxconf' maybe you should check if you have /etc/permissions. its correct that linuxconf set it back since its said that this is a no good procedure with 1777 but you need this to get your emails ported to evolution. you seriously need to change this. -- Name: Ali Akcaagac Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science E-Mail..: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Lock file error /var/spool/mail
On 2001.06.03 19:07:03 +0200 Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > Hey > Using Red Carpet I have downloaded Evolution 0.10. > Seams like a great tool, except that I can't read my mail using it. > When I check for new email I get the following error. > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.: http://www.fh-wilhelmshaven.de/~akcaagaa ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
