Re: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions

[Daniel Chenault]

Lends a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Good s***".

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions


> I think Ed Norton was high on sewer fumes.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Yeah, we hijacked this thread fair and square!
> 
> To the moon!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> What does this have to do with the Honeymooners?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> What you need to do is add the Total Ops column to your Exchange admin
> program. This will show you what mailbox is doing the most amount of
> operations on your exchange server. It is most likely a rule that is
> forwarding to the internet so you will need to login to that mailbox and
> see what is going on.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Bang!  Zoom!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> One of these days, Alice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:15 PM
> To: Baker, Jennifer
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Is that an auotresponse?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> 
> I was being sarcastic.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> I know but it is a potential cause of this problem
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> PROFITLAB
> Network Engineer
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Nobody on this list does that.  If they do, I hope they don't admit it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Also Mailbox Level Backups
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> PROFITLAB
> Network Engineer
> PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> >I also noticed in Exchange Admin on the Mailboxes resources table it
> >quite frequently shows the Exchange Administrative Account as the NT 
> >Acccount.
> 
> Virus scanning would cause this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Osama S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 3:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> (Exchange 5.5/ SP4)
>  
> my IS is suddenly growing very rapidly.
> I checked the integrity of the priv.edb using ISINTEG and also used
> ESEUTIL to do an offline defrag. The offline Defrag recovered about 1GB.
> Now the IS has grown again about
> +2GB since that defrag (2GB in 8h).
>  
> When I checked the Mailbox sizes now and compared them to the mailbox
> sizes before the defrag I found the difference to be 27MB only and not
> 2GB. Also weiredm, the total of my mailboxes is only 8.5GB while my
> priv.edb is now 20.5GB.
>  
> I have mailbox limitations on most mailboxes and none are unusually
> high. The biggest two mailboxes are 200MB each.
>  
> I 

RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring

[Ramsay, Steve]

I have recently implemented it here in our Exchange 5.5 environment.  It is
proving very useful for us, probably the main limitation is that it's speed
is limited by the MAPI interface.

It will certainly prove very useful if you want to provide detailed reports
on Attachments etc.  Let me know if you have any other questions.

Regards

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Huot, Denyse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 January 2002 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring


Andy,
Did you end up using this software? Do you know of any other software that
performs similar functions (specifically mailbox size and what kind of
attachments are in each mailbox) to the Active folders? I'm not having much
luck, other than this post from you.  I've already posted this (that I'm
looking for it) but figured I'd direct the question to you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Denyse



Andy Russell at 8/1/2001 5:56:27 AM

I've been looking for exchange monitoring and reporting tools - the only
half decent tool I've found so far is Active Folders by C2C software
(http://www.c2c.com/products/Active_f/default.htm)

Seems to do all the usual stuff like mailbox size checking, looking for
inactive mailboxes, checking stats for public folders, searching for
specific text strings or attachments within mailboxes etc. etc. 

My questions are;

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences of this product or C2C software
generally? 

Secondly we're going to go to Exchange 2000 one day - does anyone know what
native reporting tools are already in Exchange 2000 - ie. stuff like the
above?

Thanks

Andy Russell

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RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring

[Mark Harford]

Another product is SRM from Highground which has now been bought out by Sun.

http://www.sun.com/storage/software/storage_mgmt/srm_exchange/index.html

More sophisticated than Active Folders if I remember correctly but also more
expensive.

Regards

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Ramsay, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 January 2002 11:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring


I have recently implemented it here in our Exchange 5.5 environment.  It is
proving very useful for us, probably the main limitation is that it's speed
is limited by the MAPI interface.

It will certainly prove very useful if you want to provide detailed reports
on Attachments etc.  Let me know if you have any other questions.

Regards

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Huot, Denyse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 January 2002 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring


Andy,
Did you end up using this software? Do you know of any other software that
performs similar functions (specifically mailbox size and what kind of
attachments are in each mailbox) to the Active folders? I'm not having much
luck, other than this post from you.  I've already posted this (that I'm
looking for it) but figured I'd direct the question to you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Denyse



Andy Russell at 8/1/2001 5:56:27 AM

I've been looking for exchange monitoring and reporting tools - the only
half decent tool I've found so far is Active Folders by C2C software
(http://www.c2c.com/products/Active_f/default.htm)

Seems to do all the usual stuff like mailbox size checking, looking for
inactive mailboxes, checking stats for public folders, searching for
specific text strings or attachments within mailboxes etc. etc. 

My questions are;

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences of this product or C2C software
generally? 

Secondly we're going to go to Exchange 2000 one day - does anyone know what
native reporting tools are already in Exchange 2000 - ie. stuff like the
above?

Thanks

Andy Russell

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AW: MAPI Client Problems

[Rickenbacher Beat]

Does this apply?
Error Message: "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened." (Q237825)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN;q237825

Ricki


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Von: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2002 08:12
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry I didn't mean too :)

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 18:06
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Well, you don't have to yell.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I am 100% sure that it isn't permissions!  The user can access each
individual mailbox both through Outlook Web access and also by opening
the mailbox as there primary mailbox in there outlook profile.  However
this means that they have to log in and out of outlook all the time and
change the outlook profile to check each of the other mailboxes!


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 17:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Permissions is not an issue and you swear on your life?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I don't believe the problem is related to any specific MAPI client or
version.  Normally this user uses Outlook 2000 however - as a
troubleshooting method I tried a "no frills" MAPI client to see if the
problem still occurred and it did.  - Some of the kb articled mention to
use an Exchange client as Outlook doesn't give uses as much control over
folders etc...

Winston


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 17:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may
have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  O

Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Laurence Bryant]

Hello Everyone,

Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4, two
of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public information
stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the stores with a
new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would run into any
problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?

Thanks,

Laurence Bryant
CEM Centre
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RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Olds, Dominic]

That's exactly what I have here and it works like a champ..

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


Hello Everyone,

Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4, two
of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public information
stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the stores with a
new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would run into any
problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?

Thanks,

Laurence Bryant
CEM Centre
University of Durham

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RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Laurence Bryant]

-Original Message-
From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 12:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


That's exactly what I have here and it works like a champ..

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


Hello Everyone,

Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4, two
of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public information
stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the stores with a
new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would run into any
problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?

Thanks,

Laurence Bryant
CEM Centre
University of Durham

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RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Laurence Bryant]

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?




-Original Message-
From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 12:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


That's exactly what I have here and it works like a champ..

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


Hello Everyone,

Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4, two
of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public information
stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the stores with a
new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would run into any
problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?

Thanks,

Laurence Bryant
CEM Centre
University of Durham

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RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Laurence Bryant]

(Sorry about the blank posts - my mouse decided to go beserk)

Thanks Dominic - I'll give it a go then.

Laurence Bryant

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From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?




-Original Message-
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Sent: 08 January 2002 12:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


That's exactly what I have here and it works like a champ..

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?


Hello Everyone,

Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4, two
of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public information
stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the stores with a
new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would run into any
problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?

Thanks,

Laurence Bryant
CEM Centre
University of Durham

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RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring

[Huot, Denyse]

I appreciate the input that both of you have provided, thank you.

Denyse

 -Original Message-
From:   Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring

Another product is SRM from Highground which has now been bought out by Sun.

http://www.sun.com/storage/software/storage_mgmt/srm_exchange/index.html

More sophisticated than Active Folders if I remember correctly but also more
expensive.

Regards

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Ramsay, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 January 2002 11:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring


I have recently implemented it here in our Exchange 5.5 environment.  It is
proving very useful for us, probably the main limitation is that it's speed
is limited by the MAPI interface.

It will certainly prove very useful if you want to provide detailed reports
on Attachments etc.  Let me know if you have any other questions.

Regards

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Huot, Denyse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 January 2002 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: C2C Active Folders and other Exchange monitoring


Andy,
Did you end up using this software? Do you know of any other software that
performs similar functions (specifically mailbox size and what kind of
attachments are in each mailbox) to the Active folders? I'm not having much
luck, other than this post from you.  I've already posted this (that I'm
looking for it) but figured I'd direct the question to you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Denyse



Andy Russell at 8/1/2001 5:56:27 AM

I've been looking for exchange monitoring and reporting tools - the only
half decent tool I've found so far is Active Folders by C2C software
(http://www.c2c.com/products/Active_f/default.htm)

Seems to do all the usual stuff like mailbox size checking, looking for
inactive mailboxes, checking stats for public folders, searching for
specific text strings or attachments within mailboxes etc. etc. 

My questions are;

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences of this product or C2C software
generally? 

Secondly we're going to go to Exchange 2000 one day - does anyone know what
native reporting tools are already in Exchange 2000 - ie. stuff like the
above?

Thanks

Andy Russell

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RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?

[Elmer Stöwer]

It probably has to be W2K Server?

> -Original Message-
> From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?
> 
> 
> (Sorry about the blank posts - my mouse decided to go beserk)
> 
> Thanks Dominic - I'll give it a go then.
> 
> Laurence Bryant
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2002 12:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?
> 
> 
> That's exactly what I have here and it works like a champ..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Laurence Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2002 13:00
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Exchange 5.5 on NT4 and W2K?
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Cunrrently I have three servers running NT4 SP6a and Exchange 
> 5.5 SP4, two
> of these run connectors and one holds the Private and Public 
> information
> stores. I am planning to replace the computer that holds the 
> stores with a
> new one and was wondering if anyone could tell me if I would 
> run into any
> problems if I set it up with Windows 2000 SP2 and Exchange 5.5 Sp4?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Laurence Bryant
> CEM Centre
> University of Durham
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RE: MAPI Client Problems

[Andy David]

When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a any of there secondary mailboxes, the
error "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened. The operation failed." displayed. (Primary mailbox opens fine)

Also when reminders pop up, the following message is displayed "Cannot
turn off the reminder. You may be reminded again. The operation failed."

The Exchange Server is 2000 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 1...  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

Regards
Winston

PS. Happy New Year to everybody!


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RE: MAPI Client Problems

[Joyce, Louis]

When was it released?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a any of there secondary mailboxes, the
error "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened. The operation failed." displayed. (Primary mailbox opens fine)

Also when reminders pop up, the following message is displayed "Cannot
turn off the reminder. You may be reminded again. The operation failed."

The Exchange Server is 2000 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 1...  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

Regards
Winston

PS. Happy New Year to everybody!


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RE: MAPI Client Problems

[Andy David]

Ponch released his Speedo around 1982 when he could no longer hold his gut
in.


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When was it released?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a any of there secondary mailboxes, the
error "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened. The operation failed." displayed. (Primary mailbox opens fine)

Also when reminders pop up, the following message is displayed "Cannot
turn off the reminder. You may be reminded again. The operation failed."

The Exchange Server is 2000 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 1...  Any
suggestions would be g

RE: MAPI Client Problems

[PRamatowski]

I so needed that mental image first thing the morning :)

Stop thinking of the Beverly Hillbillies, *now*


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Ponch released his Speedo around 1982 when he could no longer hold his gut
in.


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When was it released?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a any of there secondary mailboxes, the
error "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened. The operation failed

RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question

[Jerry W. Hubbard]

That "Jerry Hubbard" was a sixth cousin. :)

Jerry W. Hubbard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> Wasn't Jerry Hubbard the sidekick of Barth Gimble?
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry W. Hubbard
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:27 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> Dear Martin,
>
> Are you saying the frequency of the beat oscillates at frequency
> x and sets
> up a standing wave in the air surrounding it? Just and old f*rt technician
> seeing if he understands.
>
> Jerry W. Hubbard
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> PS This is a great list. :)
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:04 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional
> > wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge
> > mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of
> > studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's
> > unique method of flying.
> >
> > Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might
> > think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your
> > right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is
> > what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement
> > produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane
> > wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the
> > greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip
> > your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position.
> >
> > Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake
> > of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is
> > moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which
> > provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford
> > University says, "The whole system is a lot more complicated than we
> > thought." A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the
> > maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand
> > to improve his own methods of flying.
> >
> > To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to
> > the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the
> > wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all
> > speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not
> > totally understand.
> >
> >
> > Does that answer your question?
> >
> > Martin Tuip
> > MVP Exchange
> > Exchange 2000 Listowner
> > www.exchange-mail.org
>


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Lotus Notes Connector Replication

[Bowles, John L.]

All,

I'm having a strange problem with my Lotus Notes Connector.  I'm exporting
containers that contain users accounts from 3 different sites into our
mother company's NAB.  The problem is that I only get user accounts from 2
of the sites and not the 3rd replicated to the NAB.  Does anyone have any
ideas why this could happen? Is there something I have to configure to get
that container from the 3rd site?

We are setup using Exch 5.5 w/Notes Connector-> connected to a Domino Notes
Server 4.6.

Thanks for the help,
___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
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Exchange Active File for NNTP

[Shields, Anthony]

Can anyone provide me with a copy of their active file for newsgroups or point me to a 
location I can grab one?

I've switched providers for our Internet.  The previous provider allowed desktops to 
pull messages.  This provider provides a news feed but according to their last email, 
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Re: Exchange Active File for NNTP

[Daniel Chenault]

According to RFC-977, the LIST command is supported by an NNTP server (i.e.
is not optional). All you need to do is use telnet to open a connection to
119 and issue "list" capturing to a text file. There's your active file.

- Original Message -
From: "Shields, Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:04 AM
Subject: Exchange Active File for NNTP


Can anyone provide me with a copy of their active file for newsgroups or
point me to a location I can grab one?

I've switched providers for our Internet.  The previous provider allowed
desktops to pull messages.  This provider provides a news feed but according
to their last email, they do not provide an active file.

Thanks

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RE: Exchange Active File for NNTP

[Shields, Anthony]

I've tried that and tried list active on their nntp service.

I get  illegal command

Secondly, I realized, using Win2k Telnet - I can't find the logging feature that was 
part of the WinNT4 Telnet.  Is it gone?



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Active File for NNTP


According to RFC-977, the LIST command is supported by an NNTP server (i.e. is not 
optional). All you need to do is use telnet to open a connection to 119 and issue 
"list" capturing to a text file. There's your active file.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:04 AM
Subject: Exchange Active File for NNTP


Can anyone provide me with a copy of their active file for newsgroups or point me to a 
location I can grab one?

I've switched providers for our Internet.  The previous provider allowed desktops to 
pull messages.  This provider provides a news feed but according to their last email, 
they do not provide an active file.

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RE: MAPI Client Problems

[Hunter, Lori]

speedos 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Ponch released his Speedo around 1982 when he could no longer hold his gut
in.


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When was it released?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a any of there secondary mailboxes, the
error "Unable to expand the folder. The set of folders could not be
opened. The operation failed." displayed. (Primary mailbox opens fine)

Also when reminders pop up, the following 

RE: Blocking spam

[Hunter, Lori]

I sent it on to my boss, and to the field manager who sends me the daily
e-mail "please block such and such domain".

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have archived
it for the day when my boss demands content filtering on our exchange
server, heh.

> You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would have
seen
> that this very issue was discussed in at least two threads.  
> 
> There's nothing you can do until you show your users how they actually get
> on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid behavior that
> gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and only then your spam input will
> decrease.  
> 
> Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you have ScanMail
> already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest assured
> that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the cooking channel
> mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager will forward the "Good Luck
Totem"
> to everybody in her address book.  At that point Richard and Jenny will
> complain even louder when they receive spam because the content filter
that
> YOU put in place doesn't work.  Then Johnny the PHB will tell you to
> increase the effectiveness of your content filter or lose your job.
You'll
> do it and Richard and Jenny will complain to Johnny that they are not
> receiving business critical e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go
> through all blocked messages and forward anything that is business
critical.
> Soon, you'll discover that you can't do anything else but review the
> quarantined messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
> OfficeBoy to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can go
> through all the messages so you can go back to installing service packs.
> Should I go on?
> 
> S.
> 

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RE: Blocking spam

[Hunter, Lori]

We do that here about every 2 years anyway, due to buyouts.  It does cut
down on the spam, I must say!

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  Make them get
all new e-mail addresses?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to do 
> the same thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and 
> now the only thing it does is extension blocking. 
> I explained to management and my users why this was happening 
> to them and how they had done it to themselves and how they 
> should fooble their email addys if they don't want to get on 
> a list and everything is happy now.
> 
> Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and 
> have archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> filtering on our exchange server, heh.
> 
> > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least 
> two threads.
> > 
> > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how 
> they actually
> > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and only then 
> > your spam input will decrease.
> > 
> > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you 
> have ScanMail
> > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager 
> will forward 
> > the "Good Luck Totem" to everybody in her address book.  At 
> that point 
> > Richard and Jenny will complain even louder when they receive spam 
> > because the content filter that YOU put in place doesn't 
> work.  Then 
> > Johnny the PHB will tell you to increase the effectiveness of your 
> > content filter or lose your job.  You'll do it and Richard 
> and Jenny 
> > will complain to Johnny that they are not receiving 
> business critical 
> > e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go through all blocked 
> > messages and forward anything that is business critical. 
> Soon, you'll 
> > discover that you can't do anything else but review the quarantined 
> > messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the 
> OfficeBoy 
> > to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can 
> go through 
> > all the messages so you can go back to installing service packs. 
> > Should I go on?
> > 
> > S.
> > 
> 
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Screwed up display name

[Clayton GDY]

E2K 
SP2, W2K SP2
 
For 
whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our display 
names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we send email, 
rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name, the display is 
showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc. I have checked all 
the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any sort of recipient 
policy in place other than the default, which only dishes out our SMTP 
addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called Gameday), and how do 
I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this one.
 
What 
gives?
Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + 
IGameday International 
N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite 
space... 
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
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RE: Win2k backup and Exchange

[Thomas Di Nardo]

Just curious, are you planning on running your differential backup after
every new message is received by your system. :)

I have yet to hear of a full system crash taking out both drives in a
mirrored log set. Are you using Packard Bell HW? Unless your building
was a terrorist target or experienced an act of deity, you wouldn't have
an issue (and if it did happen, you wouldn't have your differential
backups, would you?). 

Just curious, how is working for attorney's any different that working
in an SEC regulated environment, the healthcare industry, or a retail
environment that takes their business seriously? Having worked in all of
those industries over the last 14 years, I can't see how your situation
is any different just because you work with lawyers. The only difference
I am aware of is that for the most part, they're cheap and the older
one's can't stand technology.

If your system is architected correctly, you will not have an issue with
a full "Exchange Aware" backup nightly.

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
highwaters?

Tom.


-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange

As much as I appreciate multiple links and sarcastic comments, I do not
see
anywhere in the whitepaper from either 5.5 or 2000 on how you can roll
logs
forward IF THE LOGS AREN'T THERE...  Have you ever heard of a full
system
crash?  Although I admit it is much less likely than any other type of
failure it is still possible to lose the entire server, isn't it?  And
if it
is, the logs you are so fond of referring to will be about as useful as
your
sarcasm.  If you ever have the misfortune to work for lawyers you will
find
that there are certain things you do and deal with and a full system
daily
backup which is as up-to-date as possible is an absolute requirement.
That
is the reason that I am asking and why I feel my use of differentials is
"warranted".  If I am not mistaken, a tape of any sort is only going to
be
as useful as the last information written to it if that is the only
source
of data, is it not?  Therefore, a full server crash in the late
afternoon
with only last night's full backup leaves you SOL for almost a full
day's
work.

However, if I am incorrect in my assumption that a tape which contains a
full backup along with differential backups will allow me to rebuild my
server completely and restore it to the point of the last differential
then
I would honestly be interested in hearing why. Furthermore, if there is
a
way to restore and roll the logs should the server that the logs were on
be
completely dead using just a full backup from the night before than I
retract all sarcasm on my part and look forward to hearing how that
process
would work. 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange


READ IT. Learn it. Love it. Tell it nice things. Sleep with it under you
pillow

5.5 DR white paper
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto
re.asp

2k DR white paper
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/e2krecovery.a
sp
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange


You've never heard of database logging have you?  In the event of a
restore, when the IS is restored and the transaction logs are replayed,
you have lost nothing.  You can restore right up to the point of
failure.  Therefore your use of Differentials is unwarranted

D

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange


I have read it and I want to reiterate that I do plan on doing a nightly
full backup. However, since the Exchange server has it's own tape backup
system, I would also like to do differentials in addition to the full.
Therefore, should a complete crash happen I'm backed up to within an
hour or so of crash time rather than the previous night.

-Original Message-
From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange


David,

First,I would read the paper disaster recovery.
Second,I would ask the question why can you not do full (normal) backups
every day unless of course your data outstrips your tape size on each
server.

RE: Blocking spam

[Martin Blackstone]

Be sure to post their reply!

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


I sent it on to my boss, and to the field manager who sends me the daily
e-mail "please block such and such domain".

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have archived it
for the day when my boss demands content filtering on our exchange server,
heh.

> You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would 
> have
seen
> that this very issue was discussed in at least two threads.
> 
> There's nothing you can do until you show your users how they actually 
> get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and only then 
> your spam input will decrease.
> 
> Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you have ScanMail 
> already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager will forward 
> the "Good Luck
Totem"
> to everybody in her address book.  At that point Richard and Jenny 
> will complain even louder when they receive spam because the content 
> filter
that
> YOU put in place doesn't work.  Then Johnny the PHB will tell you to 
> increase the effectiveness of your content filter or lose your job.
You'll
> do it and Richard and Jenny will complain to Johnny that they are not 
> receiving business critical e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go 
> through all blocked messages and forward anything that is business
critical.
> Soon, you'll discover that you can't do anything else but review the 
> quarantined messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the 
> OfficeBoy to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can 
> go through all the messages so you can go back to installing service 
> packs. Should I go on?
> 
> S.
> 

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RE: MAPI Client Problems

[Thomas Di Nardo]

Fat Ponch in Speedos .. EWW!



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


speedos 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Ponch released his Speedo around 1982 when he could no longer hold his
gut
in.


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When was it released?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 13:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


When I was 12, we were all shaking our booties and Ponch could still fit
into those 28 inch waist Speedos.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I was 12 when 5.0 was released so maybe someone else on this list may
have a
suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I just gave this a shot but it haven't helped.  Is there anyway to see
if a mailbox is corrupt or to do an check on it ?


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 15:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Maybe outlook /cleanreminders will clear that particular issue up.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I vaguely recall that OL2K and a different client using same mailbox
might create that error about turning off the reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I *was* going to say.. I'm impressed that he got it to work.  I
couldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


I guess that's better than running Exch2K and the Exch 5.0 client

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


They are running Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.0 with I have tried both (I
mixed up the versions in the original post sorry...)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MAPI Client Problems


My suggestion would be to upgrade your clients.  That one has been out
for about five years...
- Original Message -
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Sorry Exchange Client 5.0

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


What is Outlook 5.0?  Can't be Outlook Express from the error messages
you are describing.

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


Yes I also tried a different PC too but this didn't make a difference. I
can open the mailboxes individually but if I try to have them all in the
same profile with his primary mailbox they wont open.  Other users on
the same exchange server and not having any problems, they some have 3
or 4 mailboxes with there primary mailbox.

Winston

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2002 11:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client Problems


And you have already tried recreating the profile?

-Original Message-
From: MATTSON, Winston AJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MAPI Client Problems


Hello All,

I was just wondering if any body has any ideas on the problems I am
having with one user.  I have checked the permissions and everything
works fine through Outlook Web Access.  When they are using Outlook 5.0
/ Exchange 2000 as a mail client the following error messages are
displayed when they try to use a an

RE: Screwed up display name

[Chris Scharff]

And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
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RE: Screwed up display name

[Clayton GDY]

Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way when I 
post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Robert Moore]

Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way when I 
post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Blocking spam

[Etts, Russell]

Hi there

One of the funniest that I ever ran into

One of the ladies here complained rather loudly that she was getting porn
email and demanded it be stopped.  She is a "highly religious" girl and will
not allow herself to be subjected to this!!

I explained to her that she probably signed herself on to some mailing list
and her name was taken from there.  When she told me she was on the "Jackie
Martley joke list", I found her problem.  It was at that point that I used
Ed Crowley's quote from the bottom of his emails and walked away, quietly
laughing.

Thanks

Russell

 

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


I sent it on to my boss, and to the field manager who sends me the daily
e-mail "please block such and such domain".

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have archived
it for the day when my boss demands content filtering on our exchange
server, heh.

> You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would have
seen
> that this very issue was discussed in at least two threads.  
> 
> There's nothing you can do until you show your users how they actually get
> on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid behavior that
> gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and only then your spam input will
> decrease.  
> 
> Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you have ScanMail
> already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest assured
> that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the cooking channel
> mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager will forward the "Good Luck
Totem"
> to everybody in her address book.  At that point Richard and Jenny will
> complain even louder when they receive spam because the content filter
that
> YOU put in place doesn't work.  Then Johnny the PHB will tell you to
> increase the effectiveness of your content filter or lose your job.
You'll
> do it and Richard and Jenny will complain to Johnny that they are not
> receiving business critical e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go
> through all blocked messages and forward anything that is business
critical.
> Soon, you'll discover that you can't do anything else but review the
> quarantined messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
> OfficeBoy to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can go
> through all the messages so you can go back to installing service packs.
> Should I go on?
> 
> S.
> 

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RE: Screwed up display name

[Joyce, Louis]

Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way
when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

--
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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Clayton]

Canadian Eh

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way
when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

--
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The Home Page for Mail Administrators.

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Clayton]

So I see now. I do not see that when my messages arrive in my inbox. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way when I 
post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Joyce, Louis]

Your display name is different now.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Canadian Eh

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way
when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
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RE: Screwed up display name

[Clayton]

What gives? I have made no changes. Is this what I get for being a Man U supporter? I 
have no event syncs set up, nothing in my policies for this, and alias and display 
names do not reference GDY anywhere. 

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Your display name is different now.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Canadian Eh

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way
when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: SNMP on an Exchange server.

[Ken Cornetet]

Having the mib isn't enough. You also need the MIB.BIN file and the
PERFMIB.INI files as well. And they are matched - they all must come from
the same build.

Enabling SNMP reading of perfmon variables (at least under NT4/MSX5.5) is an
ugly and somewhat convoluted process. I once tried to build a "master" set
of files, but I gave up after finding that lots of perfmon variables
collided with existing MIB variable names. I tried to fix a few by hand, but
it just seemed like far too much work.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SNMP on an Exchange server.



Try this: http://www.robichaux.net/writing/exchange/goodies.html
Search for MIB.

-Original Message-
From: Seitz, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SNMP on an Exchange server.


404

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SNMP on an Exchange server.


You only need one file. This one:
http://www.robichaux.net/files/NTexchperf.mib.zip


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SNMP on an Exchange server.


Good afternoon to you all:

I am in the process of building a MIB file for Exchange based on the
PerfMon MIB from Microsoft.

My question is this; do I need to customize the MIB file for the individual
configuration of the Exchange server (some have IMC's, others don't,
different drive configurations, etc). OR, can I use one generic MIB file and
trust that the SNMP service won't choke when I rebuild MIB.BIN.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
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RE: Screwed up display name

[Joyce, Louis]

I dont know. But i support Man U aswell. So maybe that is why my display
name keeps displaying 'Joyce'. My second name is actually Smith.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


What gives? I have made no changes. Is this what I get for being a Man U
supporter? I have no event syncs set up, nothing in my policies for this,
and alias and display names do not reference GDY anywhere. 

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Your display name is different now.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Canadian Eh

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that way
when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

--
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The Home Page for Mail Administrators.

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.
What gives?
Clayton Doige
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V.
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Neil Hobson]

You should be shot for being a Man U supporter.  Consider a name problem
as getting off lightly.  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 08 January 2002 15:31
Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
Conversation: Screwed up display name
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


What gives? I have made no changes. Is this what I get for being a Man U
supporter? I have no event syncs set up, nothing in my policies for
this, and alias and display names do not reference GDY anywhere. 

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Your display name is different now.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Canadian Eh

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Maybe he is Australian and he is saying hello?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Oh, yeah? I see "Clayton GDY"...

-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Nope, just Clayton. And then just to confuse things, it does not go that
way when I post to lists like this. Only seems to be to web based mail.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


And "Clayton GDY" is not what you see in the GAL?

--
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The Mail Resource Center http://www.Mail-Resources.com
The Home Page for Mail Administrators.

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-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name

E2K SP2, W2K SP2
For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on
our display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now
when we send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the
first name, the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send
to hotmail etc. I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers,
and do not have any sort of recipient policy in place other than the
default, which only dishes out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY
come from (company is called Gameday), and how do I get rid of it.
TechNet not too forthcoming on this one. What gives? Clayton Doige IT
Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell,
King of infinite space...
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845
F: +5 999 733 1259
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Screwed up display name

[Mark Harford]

Did you use any NT4 to AD migration tools? E.g. ADMT or third-party
equivalents.

Some of them will overwrite the AD display name with the NT4 Full Name.
This may be the source of "Clayton GDY".

Rgrds

Mark


-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name


E2K SP2, W2K SP2

For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.

What gives?
Clayton Doige 
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V. 
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... 
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845 
F: +5 999 733 1259 
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: Exchange Active File for NNTP

[Daniel Chenault]

Inform your ISP that he is non-compliant with the RFC. He either enables the
command or provides an active file. How does he expect his customers to use
NNTP if they can't get a list of groups from his server?

Telnet /? tells the story

- Original Message -
From: "Shields, Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange Active File for NNTP


I've tried that and tried list active on their nntp service.

I get  illegal command

Secondly, I realized, using Win2k Telnet - I can't find the logging feature
that was part of the WinNT4 Telnet.  Is it gone?



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Active File for NNTP


According to RFC-977, the LIST command is supported by an NNTP server (i.e.
is not optional). All you need to do is use telnet to open a connection to
119 and issue "list" capturing to a text file. There's your active file.

- Original Message -
From: "Shields, Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:04 AM
Subject: Exchange Active File for NNTP


Can anyone provide me with a copy of their active file for newsgroups or
point me to a location I can grab one?

I've switched providers for our Internet.  The previous provider allowed
desktops to pull messages.  This provider provides a news feed but according
to their last email, they do not provide an active file.

Thanks

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RE: Screwed up display name

[Clayton GDY]

Sorry not to clarify earlier. This is a 7 month old W2K Network running in Native 
Mode. Never had any NT4 DC's. Thanks though

-Original Message-
From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 8, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Screwed up display name


Did you use any NT4 to AD migration tools? E.g. ADMT or third-party
equivalents.

Some of them will overwrite the AD display name with the NT4 Full Name.
This may be the source of "Clayton GDY".

Rgrds

Mark


-Original Message-
From: Clayton GDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 January 2002 15:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Screwed up display name


E2K SP2, W2K SP2

For whatever reason, it was decided that we would not use last names on our
display names. This was cool up until a couple of weeks ago. Now when we
send email, rather than the dispaly name showing up as just the first name,
the display is showing (in my case) Clayton GDY when we send to hotmail etc.
I have checked all the usual is AD users and computers, and do not have any
sort of recipient policy in place other than the default, which only dishes
out our SMTP addresses. Where does this GDY come from (company is called
Gameday), and how do I get rid of it. TechNet not too forthcoming on this
one.

What gives?
Clayton Doige 
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Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Kevin]

You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
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Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and 
> scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
> 
> 
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different 
> list (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes 
> this list great in my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the 
> Exchange world is here. Did you run home with your ball when 
> the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 08 January 2002 16:18
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> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and 
> scornful nerds..

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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Martin Blackstone]

I would check the money back guarantee!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
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Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Andy David]

Geez, that didn't even rhyme.


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You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
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If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Kevin Miller]

That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the ability to 
vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting Squashed when they call and 
say "the entire internet is down come fix it now" Thomas is very correct. The top of 
the exchange world visits this list.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
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Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe the 
carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion. Everyone who 
is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with your ball when the 
other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Blocking spam

[Dillon, Jeff]

Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!

1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
2) "Just $"
3) "You've been selected"
4) "XXX" gets the rest

This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.

<< If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter differs
from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
number and mother's maiden name for verification >>

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going to
be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go with
it.

Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and catch
very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
(deleting the rest of it).

We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
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> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then 
> shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  
> Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to 
> do the same 
> > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the 
> only thing 
> > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management 
> and my users 
> > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to 
> themselves 
> > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't 
> want to get 
> > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > 
> > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have 
> > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> filtering on our 
> > exchange server, heh.
> > 
> > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > two threads.
> > > 
> > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > they actually
> > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> only then 
> > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > 
> > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > have ScanMail
> > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager
> > will forward
> > > the "Good Luck Totem" to everybody in her address book.  At
> > that point
> > > Richard and Jenny will complain even louder when they 
> receive spam 
> > > because the content filter that YOU put in place doesn't
> > work.  Then
> > > Johnny the PHB will tell you to increase the 
> effectiveness of your 
> > > content filter or lose your job.  You'll do it and Richard
> > and Jenny
> > > will complain to Johnny that they are not receiving
> > business critical
> > > e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go through all blocked 
> > > messages and forward anything that is business critical.
> > Soon, you'll
> > > discover that you can't do anything else but review the 
> quarantined 
> > > messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
> > OfficeBoy
> > > to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can
> > go through
> > > all the messages so you can 

RE: changing port

[Roger Seielstad]

In Martin's example, Exchange listens on port 25, Mailmarshall is installed
on a separate box.

--
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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: changing port
> 
> 
> Just a quick question Martin, why do you have MX 20 Exchange 
> ? If Exchange listens on port 97 nobody is going to find it 
> anyway (on port
> 25) if MX 10 goes down, or am I missing something really obvious
> here...:-)
> 
>  Sander
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: changing port
> 
> 
> He wants it to go:
> 
> Internet--(25)Mailmarshall(97)-(97)IMS
> 
> However what I would do it setup MM on another machine, then 
> configure DNS with MX records of 
> 10 MailMarshal
> 20 Exchange
> 
> Then have MM forward mail to the Exhc server
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:28 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: changing port
> 
> 
> I look forward to those who are sending you mail to connect 
> to a port other than the RFC standard port 25 then.  Or are 
> you saying mail will still be received on port 25 to the Mail 
> Marshall server and then forwarded off of port 97 to the 
> Exchange server?
> 
> D
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Sent: Friday, 
> January 04, 2002 1:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: changing port
> 
> 
> We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be 
> change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail 
> and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange 
> recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail 
> security gateway for Exchange.
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Bowles, John L.]

If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: fix monitor

[Roger Seielstad]

Dude - Ms. Baker can take you. Trust me.

And please know from experience you don't want to be on her "special" list.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> Sorry, but you forgot to add your "Kelly Only" disclaimer, so 
> you can't make any threats.
> 
> If, in the future, you want to send messages for only Kelly 
> to read, you should add the following:
> 
> Warning: This message was intended for Kelly only. Anyone 
> else reading this message will die.
> 
> Of course, you should probably run it by legal and have them 
> punch it up a bit. But then you wouldn't have to worry about 
> anyone else on the list reading your messages for Kelly. 8-{)>
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> That was for Kelly only...now you must die.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> Did someone say lightsaber?
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> The real question is: Are you willing to try it?
> 
> That was for the light saber thing. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> 
> Would that taste like chicken too? 
> ~
> -K.Borndale
> Network Administrator
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mmm... fried Tener
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral 
> problems."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many 
> catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. 
> I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a 
> half working with it. But I have Been involved with 
> Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I 
> got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware.
> 
> Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user 
> serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be 
> Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several 
> thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage 
> there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone 
> one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then 
> get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High 
> School that has a Vocational Education Program that 
> specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will 
> usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts.
> 
> Just An idea.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Kenneth Davis
> IT Manager
> American Wood Moulding, LLC
> 
> "For a moment, nothing happened.
> Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: fix monitor
> 
> 
> 
> for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a 
> good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor?
> 
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Don Ely]

This from a man who has taken a rash of sh!t...  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

___
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
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If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Don Ely]

Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!  

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
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Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Joyce, Louis]

I havent visited as much this week actually Kevin.;)


Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 16:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Hunter, Lori]

Which one are you?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Bowles, John L.]

Excactly, after I got bombarded I took a step back and thought about why
they were being sarcastic to me.  To make me go the extra mile in trying to
investigate a problem and learning.  Rather than having someone just blurt
out the answer.  Most of the time it's for a reason.  Not just to piss you
off.  But it's funny to watch people getting pissy from peoples remarks..
:-)

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-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


This from a man who has taken a rash of sh!t...  ;o)

D

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: OWA Enumeration Question

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

David,

I agree and really do appreciate you reminding me of that.  However, none of
our DL's are structured that way.  This one in fact is over 15 characters
long with special characters.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: David Lemson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Enumeration Question


Do not underestimate the power of a dictionary attack.  Especially if the
alias of the DL is less than 8 characters long, it is not hard to manage a
brute-force attack.  

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Enumeration Question


Chris,

1.  Not an obvious name.
2.   It did include an external SMTP addr <\duh>  However, the DL was
hidden from the GAL, as was the membership of the DL. 3.  Dictionary
generated listing wouldn't have worked for reason #1. 4.  I COULD stand to
lose 30 pounds.

While fighting spammers does provide an amusing distraction from time to
time, this is not what bothers me.  What bothers me is the fact that they
evidently got ahold of *every other* SMTP address in the GAL, as evidenced
by the fact that they know what the addr is to this one hidden DL that is
less than 2 months old.

TIA O Great Exchang Yoda ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Enumeration Question


Other possibilities.

The DL name is an obvious one that someone would guess (e.g. all@ sales@
hr@). The DL includes an external recipient and someone sent to the DL with
it in the to or from field of a message. The address was created through a
dictionary generated spam mailing. Someone in your org knows how to help you
lose 30lbs in 30 days.

--
Chris Scharff
The Mail Resource Center http://www.Mail-Resources.com
The Home Page for Mail Administrators.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA Enumeration Question
>
>
> Ok, here's the situation: Win2k SP2 with Exchange OWA 5.5
> SP4+2 and IIS 5.0
>
> In the past couple of weeks, we have been getting hit VERY hard by 
> SPAM. It didn't really trip my trigger until I saw one particular NDR 
> in my postmaster mailbox this morning. Upon opening and looking 
> specifically at the distribution list, I found that the message was 
> addressed to two different SMTP addresses within our organization. One

> of those addresses has been deleted, hence the NDR. The other 
> addressee was a hidden DL that was created after 11/8/01, at the 
> suggestion of one Mr. Louis Joyce, in a separate thread to someone 
> else (see "RE: email to a deleted mailbox").
>
> Now...there are three ways I can think of that someone has gotten 
> ahold of our enumerated GAL:
>
> 1. They enumerated our GAL through the OWA, ala "MS01-047 : OWA 
> Function Allows Unauthenticated User to Enumerate Global Address 
> List". This is Q307195. We have grepped the log files as far back as 
> 07/01/01 on the OWA server, and can find no indication that this 
> vulnerability has been exploited on our server. In the Add/Remove 
> Programs, it doesn't show this hotfix as having been installed, but it

> does show hotfix Q313576 as having been installed and Q307195 is an
> included hotfix (I would say we could rule that option out).
>
> 2. We are one site in a two site organization, with the
> other site being the parent site. Therefore, all recipients in our GAL 
> replicate to their GAL. So...the exploit described in #1 could be 
> performed from their OWA site if the patch hasn't been applied, with 
> the same results (Don't know their status yet).
>
> 3. Someone from within our company or theirs has enumerated the GAL 
> and is selling it to outside sources.
>
> Have I left any possibilities out?
>
> James H (Jim) Blunt
> Network / Microsoft Exchange Admin.
> Network & Infrastructure Group
> Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> 509-372-9188


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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

If the sarcasm is too much, don't pay for the list.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
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(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
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RE: Win2k backup and Exchange

[Roger Seielstad]

You're equating dead server and completely erased drives, which is an
erroneous assumption on your part.

There are two "full system crash" scenarios in which I could see not being
able to recover from the logs.

First - drive controller failure that includes destroying BOTH the database
and log volumes (you DO have them on different RAID sets, right?). This
is only an issue if you have 1 and only 1 RAID channel/array.

Second - datacenter fire that physically destroys the box. You're DOA, even
in your scenario, because the tape sitting in the drive with your most
recent differential is melted, along with the server it backed up.

As long as you have 2 of the 3 following items, you're 100% fine:
-intact Database volume
-intact log volume
-intact copy of the last full Exchange aware backup

With any 2 of those 3, you can recover your system to precrash considition
with no committed data lost.

Differentials are a waste of time for Exchange in 99% of all cases.
SQL-esque databases are a different story, but that's another forum entirely

Roger
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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange
> 
> 
> As much as I appreciate multiple links and sarcastic 
> comments, I do not see anywhere in the whitepaper from either 
> 5.5 or 2000 on how you can roll logs forward IF THE LOGS 
> AREN'T THERE...  Have you ever heard of a full system crash?  
> Although I admit it is much less likely than any other type 
> of failure it is still possible to lose the entire server, 
> isn't it?  And if it is, the logs you are so fond of 
> referring to will be about as useful as your sarcasm.  If you 
> ever have the misfortune to work for lawyers you will find 
> that there are certain things you do and deal with and a full 
> system daily backup which is as up-to-date as possible is an 
> absolute requirement.  That is the reason that I am asking 
> and why I feel my use of differentials is "warranted".  If I 
> am not mistaken, a tape of any sort is only going to be as 
> useful as the last information written to it if that is the 
> only source of data, is it not?  Therefore, a full server 
> crash in the late afternoon with only last night's full 
> backup leaves you SOL for almost a full day's work.
> 
> However, if I am incorrect in my assumption that a tape which 
> contains a full backup along with differential backups will 
> allow me to rebuild my server completely and restore it to 
> the point of the last differential then I would honestly be 
> interested in hearing why. Furthermore, if there is a way to 
> restore and roll the logs should the server that the logs 
> were on be completely dead using just a full backup from the 
> night before than I retract all sarcasm on my part and look 
> forward to hearing how that process would work. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange
> 
> 
> READ IT. Learn it. Love it. Tell it nice things. Sleep with 
> it under you pillow
> 
> 5.5 DR white paper 
> http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/B
> ackupResto
> re.asp
> 
> 2k DR white paper 
> http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/e2k
> recovery.a
> sp
> --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange
> 
> 
> You've never heard of database logging have you?  In the 
> event of a restore, when the IS is restored and the 
> transaction logs are replayed, you have lost nothing.  You 
> can restore right up to the point of failure.  Therefore your 
> use of Differentials is unwarranted
> 
> D
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange
> 
> 
> I have read it and I want to reiterate that I do plan on 
> doing a nightly full backup. However, since the Exchange 
> server has it's own tape backup system, I would also like to 
> do differentials in addition to the full. Therefore, should a 
> complete crash happen I'm backed up to within an hour or so 
> of crash time rather than the previous night.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Win2k backup and Exchange
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> First,I would read the

EXCH 5.5 x.400 to exch 2000 in seperate domain

[James Lavoie]

Im trying to connect a 5.5 exchange server to a 2000 exchange server via
x.400 connector. They are in seperate untrusted nt domains. Does anyone know
of a helpful article? I can't seem to find one...
Thanks,
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Ewins, James]

Yeah, and I thought it was 5, 7, 5.
Can't be bothered to count those.
JDE

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

Geez, that didn't even rhyme.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
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If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
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my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Les Bessant]

Oddly enough, some of the sharpest (and funniest) sarcasm comes from some of
the most technically proficient and helpful people. 

As the man said, if you don't like the style of this list, you are free to
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>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:18 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
>You've got to be kidding...
>The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
>This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
>-
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> 
>
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RE: Blocking spam

[Schwartz, Jim]

Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
> 
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
> 
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
> 
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
> rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.
> 
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter
> differs
> from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
> number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going
> to
> be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
> still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
> case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go
> with
> it.
> 
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and
> catch
> very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
> day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
> (deleting the rest of it).
> 
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
> do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then 
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to 
> > do the same 
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the 
> > only thing 
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management 
> > and my users 
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to 
> > themselves 
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't 
> > want to get 
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > > 
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have 
> > > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> > filtering on our 
> > > exchange server, heh.
> > > 
> > > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > > two threads.
> > > > 
> > > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > > they actually
> > > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> > > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> > only then 
> > > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > > 
> > > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > > have ScanMail
> > > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> > > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > > cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager
> > > will forward
> > > > the "Good Luck Totem" to everybody in her address book.  At
> > > that point
> > > > Richard and Jenny will complain even lo

Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Daniel Chenault]

Opinions: everyone has one...

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
> (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
> my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
> you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
> highwaters?
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[Daniel Chenault]

The top of the Exchange world _created_ this list.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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[Daniel Chenault]

Bog dogs? Would they be anything like Hounds of the Baskervilles?

- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:22 AM
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Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Denis Baldwin]

The last time I ran with "bog dogs", I got covered in swamp water :)

Denis

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!  

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Daniel Chenault]

I dunno. Sometimes I do it just to piss you off.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Excactly, after I got bombarded I took a step back and thought about why
they were being sarcastic to me.  To make me go the extra mile in trying to
investigate a problem and learning.  Rather than having someone just blurt
out the answer.  Most of the time it's for a reason.  Not just to piss you
off.  But it's funny to watch people getting pissy from peoples remarks..
:-)

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


This from a man who has taken a rash of sh!t...  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Denis Baldwin]

Haiku on Friday
Tuesday too early for this
Haiku come Friday

Denis

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:37 AM
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Yeah, and I thought it was 5, 7, 5.
Can't be bothered to count those.
JDE

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

Geez, that didn't even rhyme.


-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
(maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
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[Joyce, Louis]

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 16:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


I dunno. Sometimes I do it just to piss you off.

- Original Message -
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Excactly, after I got bombarded I took a step back and thought about why
they were being sarcastic to me.  To make me go the extra mile in trying to
investigate a problem and learning.  Rather than having someone just blurt
out the answer.  Most of the time it's for a reason.  Not just to piss you
off.  But it's funny to watch people getting pissy from peoples remarks..
:-)

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


This from a man who has taken a rash of sh!t...  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Bowles, John L.]

No, sorry way passed YOU pissing me off ;-)

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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


I dunno. Sometimes I do it just to piss you off.

- Original Message -
From: "Bowles, John L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Excactly, after I got bombarded I took a step back and thought about why
they were being sarcastic to me.  To make me go the extra mile in trying to
investigate a problem and learning.  Rather than having someone just blurt
out the answer.  Most of the time it's for a reason.  Not just to piss you
off.  But it's funny to watch people getting pissy from peoples remarks..
:-)

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


This from a man who has taken a rash of sh!t...  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


If you don't like it...beat it!!!  Simple as that.

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of this list or the
ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users getting
Squashed when they call and say "the entire internet is down come fix it
now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Andy David]

I think we need a new container.


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Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
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Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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RE: Blocking spam

[Drewski]

"The domain should be www.mycompany.xxx (with the XXX to be decided later, by
you!)"

-- Drew

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Hate can only flourish where love is absent. --William C. Menninger

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
>
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
>
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
>
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
> rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.
>
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter
> differs
> from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
> number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
>
>
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going
> to
> be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
> still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
> case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go
> with
> it.
>
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and
> catch
> very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
> day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
> (deleting the rest of it).
>
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
> do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.
>
> Aloha,
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> >
> >
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> >
> >
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> >
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to
> > do the same
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the
> > only thing
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management
> > and my users
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to
> > themselves
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't
> > want to get
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > >
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > >
> > >
> > > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have
> > > archived it for the day when my boss demands content
> > filtering on our
> > > exchange server, heh.
> > >
> > > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > > two threads.
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > > they actually
> > > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid
> > > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and
> > only then
> > > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, you can install something like eManager

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Martin Blackstone]

It wasn’t 5-7-5 either!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Geez, that didn't even rhyme.


-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

But you can't pick your friend's nose!

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The world acquires value only through its extremes and endures only through 
moderation; extremists make the world great, the moderates give it stability. --Paul 
Valery

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Opinions: everyone has one...

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From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
> (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
> my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
> you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
> highwaters?
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>
>
>
>
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RE: Blocking spam

[Doug Hampshire]

See Andy Webb's sig for a suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
> 
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
> 
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
> 
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds 
> who rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone 
> happy.
> 
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter 
> differs from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your 
> MasterCard number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still 
> going to be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) 
> and they'll still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that 
> somehow.  In our case the answer is content filtering and the 
> attendant problems that go with
> it.
> 
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and 
> catch very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 
> minutes a day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff 
> that's legit (deleting the rest of it).
> 
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  
> And we do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment 
> extensions.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to
> > do the same
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the
> > only thing
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management
> > and my users
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to
> > themselves
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't
> > want to get
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > > 
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have
> > > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> > filtering on our
> > > exchange server, heh.
> > > 
> > > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you 
> > > > would have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > > two threads.
> > > > 
> > > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > > they actually
> > > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid
> > > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> > only then
> > > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > > 
> > > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > > have ScanMail
> > > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  
> > > > Rest
> > > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > > 

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Roger Seielstad]

Although his title makes my job a lot harder. I need to include graphs in
all my communication with him.


My Workload:
Doug's Workload:*

Can I take that * off your plate, Doug?[1]


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com

[1] Seriously, I'm just kidding. Give it to Jeffe[2]
[2] he had free time yesterday



> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> Someone needs to get laid...
> 
> Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My 
> title includes word manager and as many can testify that 
> automajikally makes me a comedian.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and 
> scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>  
> 
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different 
> list (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes 
> this list great in my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the 
> Exchange world is here. Did you run home with your ball when 
> the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Bowles, John L.]

Yea, WTF is a Bog Dog?  :)

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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


WTF is a bog dog???

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!  

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Thomas Di Nardo]

A dog the lives in a bog.

bog (bôg, bg) n.
- An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of sphagnum moss and 
peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and sometimes trees usually grow. 
- Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat substrate. Also 
called peat bog. 
- An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.


-Original Message-
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WTF is a bog dog???

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!  

D

-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Martin Blackstone]

I think I'm damn funny!

-Original Message-
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Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Don Ely]

Damn!  Not enough coffee yet...  :o)

D

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Bog dogs? Would they be anything like Hounds of the Baskervilles?

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Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:


If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
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your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Don Ely]

I'm fricken hilarious!  I kill me sometimes!

D


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I think I'm damn funny!

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
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[Daniel Chenault]

Which is a reference to the Hounds of Baskervilles

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> A dog the lives in a bog.
>
> bog (bôg, bg) n.
> - An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of
sphagnum moss and peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and
sometimes trees usually grow.
> - Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat
substrate. Also called peat bog.
> - An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
> WTF is a bog dog???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you
can
> find the same quantity of knowledge.
>
> If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!
>
> D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
> the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my
opinion.
> Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home
with
> your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Don Ely]

Yeah!  See it means something!  ;o)

D

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:01 AM
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A dog the lives in a bog.

bog (bôg, bg) n.
- An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of
sphagnum moss and peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and
sometimes trees usually grow. 
- Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat
substrate. Also called peat bog. 
- An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

WTF is a bog dog???

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you can
find the same quantity of knowledge.

If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!  

D

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Bowles, John L.]

Do Bog Dog's wipe their own A$$?

___
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Enterprise Support & Engineering
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-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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[Don Ely]

Perzactly!  Ya'll stop pickin on me!  I'm feewing hurt and sad...  Nobody
wikes me...  Wh  The carebear list is where?  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Which is a reference to the Hounds of Baskervilles

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> A dog the lives in a bog.
>
> bog (bôg, bg) n.
> - An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of
sphagnum moss and peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and
sometimes trees usually grow.
> - Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat
substrate. Also called peat bog.
> - An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
> WTF is a bog dog???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if 
> you
can
> find the same quantity of knowledge.
>
> If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!
>
> D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful 
> nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list 
> (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great 
> in my
opinion.
> Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home
with
> your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
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[Joyce, Louis]

And i live roughly 20 miles away from where the hound of the baskervilles
was set.

I expect my badge in the post.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




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Which is a reference to the Hounds of Baskervilles

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> A dog the lives in a bog.
>
> bog (bôg, bg) n.
> - An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of
sphagnum moss and peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and
sometimes trees usually grow.
> - Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat
substrate. Also called peat bog.
> - An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
> WTF is a bog dog???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you
can
> find the same quantity of knowledge.
>
> If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!
>
> D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
> the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my
opinion.
> Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home
with
> your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Blocking spam

[David Florea]

I'm curious what software package you're using, Ben, and how difficult was
it to tune the filters.

David

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going to
be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go with
it.

Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and catch
very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
(deleting the rest of it).

We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then 
> shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  
> Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to 
> do the same 
> > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the 
> only thing 
> > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management 
> and my users 
> > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to 
> themselves 
> > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't 
> want to get 
> > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > 
> > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have 
> > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> filtering on our 
> > exchange server, heh.
> > 
> > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > two threads.
> > > 
> > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > they actually
> > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> only then 
> > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > 
> > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > have ScanMail
> > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager
> > will forward
> > > the "Good Luck Totem" to everybody in her address book.  At
> > that point
> > > Richard and Jenny will complain even louder when they 
> receive spam 
> > > because the content filter that YOU put in place doesn't
> > work.  Then
> > > Johnny the PHB will tell you to increase the 
> effectiveness of your 
> > > content filter or lose your job.  You'll do it and Richard
> > and Jenny
> > > will complain to Johnny that they are not receiving
> > business critical
> > > e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go through all blocked 
> > > messages and forward anything that is business critical.
> > Soon, you'll
> > > discover that you can't do anything else but review the 
> quarantined 
> > > messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
> > OfficeBoy
> > > to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can
> > go through
> > > all the messages so you can go back to installing service packs. 
> > > Should I go on?
> > > 
> > > S.
> > > 
> > 
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Akerlund, Scott]

And you're not dead yet?  Sheessh

JK

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
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I'm fricken hilarious!  I kill me sometimes!

D


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
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I think I'm damn funny!

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Martin Blackstone]

Yea, I wanna kill you too sometimes!
See, I am funny!!!

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I'm fricken hilarious!  I kill me sometimes!

D


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I think I'm damn funny!

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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Nemx Power Tools

[jez]

Has anyone used this , if so how did it perform??

Thanx

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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Jerry W. Hubbard]

The best Exchange people in 
the world are on this list.
Reading this list is a priceless 
education for all Exchange Administrators.

The wannabee comedians and scornful
nerds lighten the day for many of us. 
If the list tone is hard for you to take,
turn on your brains filter to take
out the noise. 

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Have a great 2002.

Jerry W. Hubbard
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When eating corn on the cob,
eat the kernels and leave cob.



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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>  
> 
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
> (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
> my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
> you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
> highwaters?
> ---
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> 
> 
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Contacts out of Synk with GAL

[richard . matthews]

Dear All, 

 I have recently updated the custom recipients in our Global Address List.
Since this, user who previously added GAL custom recipients to their
contacts are now getting NDR's. Even if the custom recipient still exists
in the same container.

 I found the following technet article but it doesn't explain how to fix
the problem. (Q237951).

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System Attendant mailbox

[Saheel KHOYRATTY]

Hello all,

I have a pb and i have not been able to find something relevant in the
archive.  The pb is that i have a System Attendant mailbox that is around
200 Mb.  I would like to remove the infos in this mailbox if it not needed
but up to now, i have been unable to access this mailbox.

Could anyone help ?

Thks

Saheel 

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Install trouble

[Dean Clark]

I have just been given the task of setting up the companies exchange server.
(Exchange 2000 on Win 2k server)
Having never done it before I thought I'd give it a crack. Upon entering the
setup screen I started going through the installation options and I got this
error:-
Microsoft Exchange Messaging and collaboration Services depends on Microsoft
Exchange domain preperation, which has an install problem.

Any ideas??
All knowledgebase stuff I can find relates to DNS of Master Domain
controller - which is fine.
TIA

Dean Clark
Database Administrator
Calaba Ltd
(+44) 0207 258 8462
07790 853 688
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Don Ely]

You're friggin hilarious...  NOT!  :P

D

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:11 AM
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Yea, I wanna kill you too sometimes!
See, I am funny!!!

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
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I'm fricken hilarious!  I kill me sometimes!

D


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
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I think I'm damn funny!

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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test

[Dean Clark]

just testing please ignore

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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Dupler, Craig]

Ah, but in the story Doyle has the hound covered with paint that glows in
the dark, rather dowdy wouldn't you say?  But then, it was effective
dowdiness in the story.

Quality sarcasm, like quality haiku, or even quality dowdiness is often
great entertainment.  It adds to the page turning (screen flipping?  or
maybe just flippin') aspect of the milieu.

A good jab now and then about, say someone having trouble with the quality
of the results produced by low quality tools can be useful irony, if it is
done well (the jab that is), and it is done with a smile.

Has anyone on his list every taken themselves too seriously or forgotten to
smile while sticking it to some poor slob whose been saddled with a
collection of tools foisted upon them by a useless PHB?  Oh certainly not.



Dowdy dogs wail on
scurrilous neighbors rake muck
the very "high" heels laugh



-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


And i live roughly 20 miles away from where the hound of the baskervilles
was set.

I expect my badge in the post.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
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Sent: 08 January 2002 17:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Which is a reference to the Hounds of Baskervilles

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> A dog the lives in a bog.
>
> bog (bôg, bg) n.
> - An area having a wet, spongy, acidic substrate composed chiefly of
sphagnum moss and peat in which characteristic shrubs and herbs and
sometimes trees usually grow.
> - Any of certain other wetland areas, such as a fen, having a peat
substrate. Also called peat bog.
> - An area of soft, naturally waterlogged ground.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
> WTF is a bog dog???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> Did we hurt your wittle feewings???  Go find another list and see if you
can
> find the same quantity of knowledge.
>
> If you can't run with the bog dogs, get out of our house!
>
> D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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>
>
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
> the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my
opinion.
> Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home
with
> your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
> ---
>
>
>
>
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