Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-09 Thread Tim Gowen

Yeah, but I am running in AVAPI mode and the scan engine and pattern file
are current.  It's getting some Bugbears but not others.


Tim


Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?
From: "Ray Beckwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:13:31 -0700
X-Message-Number: 17

We had this issue a while back when we first started using ScanMail. We
found out from Trend that when ScanMail runs in MAPI mode, it doesn't scan
the attachments until AFTER the message is in the inbox; which leaves the
possibility if the server is extremely busy scanning, the user could see
and even open the message before the scanner gets to it.

The solution was to run ScanMail in AVAPI mode instead. This mode
intercepts attachments before they reach the IS. Just be sure you have
upgraded to the latest version of ScanMail and the latest Exchange SP
first as there have been issues with AVAPI mode in earlier versions
crashing the IS. Check the list archives for this topic. I know it was
discussed here a couple years ago.

Good Luck.
Ray

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Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Doody
Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange
strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that strategy
includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this
highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal
Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way
they are getting backed up.

The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k
ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  Okay you can
scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users,
but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p

Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is
out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders.
Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small
test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal
candidate for this situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it
completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising
folders over an 64k link.

Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal
Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when using offline
folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed that when you
make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised
with the server?



Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working
with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.  No matter how
irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im
in for if I move to this solution.

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Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
Without going directly into the OST/PST discussion I would suggest to look
at the new Outlook 11 coming up on the horizon. A lot of new features have
to do with slow links.

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Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange
strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that strategy
includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this
highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal
Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way
they are getting backed up.

The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k
ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  Okay you can
scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users,
but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p

Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is
out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders.
Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small
test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal
candidate for this situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it
completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising
folders over an 64k link.

Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal
Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when using offline
folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed that when you
make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised
with the server?



Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working
with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.  No matter how
irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im
in for if I move to this solution.

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FW: Outlook prob removing old account

2003-06-09 Thread Rob Hackney
Hi, 
Exch 2k sp3 outlook 2k
As per Ed's 'never restore' method, I have set up mailbox retention on
my departing users.  I gave permission  to the admin account to access a
users mailbox  who has departed in order to check any emails.  I have
since deleted the mailbox and account within AD however I still have the
mailbox showing under folder list for the admin account.  I have removed
it from the admin  account properties > advanced tab under outlook so I
am not sure why it would still be there.  Has anyone got any ideas a)
why it still may be there b) how to remove it from there?   I'm thinking
either stop/ start IS or recreate account/ mailbox.
Google/ Technet didn't throw up anything I could find but then that may
be my search criteria.
Thanks
Rob
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RE: RUS

2003-06-09 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar

Both your DCs are GCs. Good for exchange but one of the FSMO roles (the
Infrastructure Master) does not want to be on a GC. It doesn't update if
it is run on a GC. Not sure if this applies in a single domain too. 

Q1971322:
NOTE: The Infrastructure Master (IM) role should be held by a domain
controller that is not a Global Catalog server(GC). If the
Infrastructure Master runs on a Global Catalog server it will stop
updating object information because it does not contain any references
to objects that it does not hold. This is because a Global Catalog
server holds a partial replica of every object in the forest. As a
result, cross-domain object references in that domain will not be
updated and a warning to that effect will be logged on that DC's event
log.

Sander

-Original Message-
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Sent: 06 June 2003 05:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RUS

I have 2 W2K DCs and they're both are GC server. Right now there are two
RUS, one is the enterprise point to DC1 and one is the organization also
point to DC1.  Technically, I can create another RUS and point it to DC2
so the GAL gets update as well , but I read somewhere that all I have to
do is change the Enterprise RUS to DC1 and the Org RUS to DC2.  Is that
true?

Thanks!

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Best Practices for Exchange2K Implementation

2003-06-09 Thread Gagrani, Kishore
Hi all,

We are a small company but spread out offices all around.

I wonder what would be a justified number of users (mailboxes) to host a exchange 
server (Exchange 2K-SP3 )  in a remote office. Does anyone use MAPI client over 
internet to connect to exchange server ? Are there any recommended settings in Outlook 
(Outlook-2000) to minimize the network traffic (specially for those who are on dial-up 
internet access) ?

I would really appreciate any feedback in this regard.

Thank you in anticipation,

Kishore 

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RE: additional display name?

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
We traditionally change the user to the married name (at their request, of
course) then add in parenthesis their maiden name:

Paula Jones (Smith)

Tends to work well. 

The only way to do what you want would be to create a second mailbox and set
the main mailbox as an alternate recipient. That's pretty kludgy to me.

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RE: Archiving Solutions

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
And a new employee?

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> lot of regulations that we need to comply with.  We have 
> users who have mailboxes close to 3GB.  On one exchange 
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind that
PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think that
conversion is done on the client side.

I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of a
256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook, especially
the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire 
> Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of 
> that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with 
> Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the 
> people round here have Personal Folders containing there 
> email, which in turn means that there is no way they are 
> getting backed up.
> 
> The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have 
> only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  
> Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for 
> such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of 
> my wages for a larger link ;p
> 
> Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the 
> Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess 
> is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect 
> the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> you would think they were the ideal candidate for this 
> situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it 
> completely kills the network when you have a few people 
> synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> 
> Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average 
> Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im 
> also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail 
> box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> 
> 
> 
> Please can you give me all your experience and all your info 
> on working with synchronise folders within a working 
> enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, 
> I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this 
> solution.
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Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Off topic.

With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender we
are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the sender
notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did not actually
send any virus.  I know we can turn off the notification, but then users who
are sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  Kind of a
catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are regarding
notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled sender notifications
or are you just living with it?

Pete Pfefferkorn
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University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
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Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Precht
how can a 256meg pipe be bad?
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Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


> Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind
that
> PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think
that
> conversion is done on the client side.
>
> I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of
a
> 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
especially
> the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> >
> >
> > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire
> > Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of
> > that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with
> > Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the
> > people round here have Personal Folders containing there
> > email, which in turn means that there is no way they are
> > getting backed up.
> >
> > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!
> > Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for
> > such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of
> > my wages for a larger link ;p
> >
> > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess
> > is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect
> > the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection
> > you would think they were the ideal candidate for this
> > situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it
> > completely kills the network when you have a few people
> > synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> >
> > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average
> > Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when
> > using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im
> > also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail
> > box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info
> > on working with synchronise folders within a working
> > enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem,
> > I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this
> > solution.
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Keith.Hanna
what is the right end of a 256MB pipe?
:)

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind that
PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think that
conversion is done on the client side.

I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of a
256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook, especially
the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire 
> Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of 
> that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with 
> Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the 
> people round here have Personal Folders containing there 
> email, which in turn means that there is no way they are 
> getting backed up.
> 
> The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have 
> only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  
> Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for 
> such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of 
> my wages for a larger link ;p
> 
> Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the 
> Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess 
> is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect 
> the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> you would think they were the ideal candidate for this 
> situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it 
> completely kills the network when you have a few people 
> synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> 
> Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average 
> Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im 
> also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail 
> box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> 
> 
> 
> Please can you give me all your experience and all your info 
> on working with synchronise folders within a working 
> enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, 
> I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this 
> solution.
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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
I leave them on - it's a good indication someone is hijacking their mail
accounts.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?
> 
> 
> Off topic.
> 
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof 
> the sender we are starting to get complaints from users who 
> are receiving the sender notifications messages from our 
> ScanMail virus scanner who did not actually send any virus.  
> I know we can turn off the notification, but then users who 
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are 
> infected.  Kind of a catch 22.  I'm curious what other 
> administrators policies are regarding notification messages 
> to the sender.  Have you disabled sender notifications or are 
> you just living with it?
> 
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
> 
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Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Precht
a couple of p2p servers;)
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 08:08
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


what is the right end of a 256MB pipe?
:)

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 12:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind that
PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think that
conversion is done on the client side.

I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of a
256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook, especially
the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
>
>
> Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire
> Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of
> that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with
> Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the
> people round here have Personal Folders containing there
> email, which in turn means that there is no way they are
> getting backed up.
>
> The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!
> Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for
> such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of
> my wages for a larger link ;p
>
> Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess
> is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect
> the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection
> you would think they were the ideal candidate for this
> situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it
> completely kills the network when you have a few people
> synchronising folders over an 64k link.
>
> Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average
> Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when
> using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im
> also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail
> box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
>
>
>
> Please can you give me all your experience and all your info
> on working with synchronise folders within a working
> enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem,
> I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this
> solution.
>
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Doody
Lol, yeah, even if it was a 256KB pipe, that's still 2048kbit, 2mb pipes
up and down the country, don't think I could give a toss about offline
folders ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

what is the right end of a 256MB pipe?
:)

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 12:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind
that
PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think
that
conversion is done on the client side.

I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end
of a
256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
especially
the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire 
> Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of 
> that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with 
> Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the 
> people round here have Personal Folders containing there 
> email, which in turn means that there is no way they are 
> getting backed up.
> 
> The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have 
> only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  
> Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for 
> such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of 
> my wages for a larger link ;p
> 
> Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the 
> Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess 
> is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect 
> the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> you would think they were the ideal candidate for this 
> situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it 
> completely kills the network when you have a few people 
> synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> 
> Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average 
> Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im 
> also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail 
> box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> 
> 
> 
> Please can you give me all your experience and all your info 
> on working with synchronise folders within a working 
> enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, 
> I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this 
> solution.
> 
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Trust me. 256k isn't enough for our users. It all depends on the
application, and the applications one of these offices support uses a lot of
bandwidth between their clients and the servers in our production data
center. Tack onto that Internet access, mail, and other internal
applications, and 256k disappears quickly.



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> -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> how can a 256meg pipe be bad?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 07:47
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> > Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in 
> > mind
> that
> > PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), 
> but I think
> that
> > conversion is done on the client side.
> >
> > I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong 
> > end of
> a
> > 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
> especially
> > the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > >
> > >
> > > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the 
> entire Exchange 
> > > strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that 
> strategy 
> > > includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item 
> Retention, this 
> > > highlights the issue that most of the people round here have 
> > > Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means that 
> > > there is no way they are getting backed up.
> > >
> > > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have 
> only a 64k 
> > > ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can 
> > > scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of 
> > > users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a 
> larger link 
> > > ;p
> > >
> > > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the 
> Mail Box 
> > > is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is 
> > > Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the 
> > > solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> you would 
> > > think they were the ideal candidate for this situation.  
> However, a 
> > > colleague informs me that it completely kills the network 
> when you 
> > > have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > >
> > > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your 
> average Personal 
> > > Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> using offline 
> > > folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed 
> that when 
> > > you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically 
> > > synchronised with the server?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on 
> > > working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.  No 
> > > matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know 
> > > exactly what im in for if I move to this solution.
> > >
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
The end that's got the Exchange box ;)

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> what is the right end of a 256MB pipe?
> :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 12:47
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. 
> Keep in mind that PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message 
> stored twice), but I think that conversion is done on the client side.
> 
> I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the 
> wrong end of a 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other 
> traffic. Outlook, especially the newer versions, are fairly 
> stingy with network traffic.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > 
> > 
> > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire
> > Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of 
> > that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with 
> > Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the 
> > people round here have Personal Folders containing there 
> > email, which in turn means that there is no way they are 
> > getting backed up.
> > 
> > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  
> > Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for 
> > such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of 
> > my wages for a larger link ;p
> > 
> > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess 
> > is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect 
> > the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> > you would think they were the ideal candidate for this 
> > situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it 
> > completely kills the network when you have a few people 
> > synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > 
> > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average
> > Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> > using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im 
> > also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail 
> > box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info
> > on working with synchronise folders within a working 
> > enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, 
> > I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this 
> > solution.
> > 
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Try 6MB ATM[1], which is the current standard for our larger office
connectivity.

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[1] Actually, its 3MB CIR with a 6MB port speed.


> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Lol, yeah, even if it was a 256KB pipe, that's still 
> 2048kbit, 2mb pipes up and down the country, don't think I 
> could give a toss about offline folders ;)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 June 2003 13:09
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> what is the right end of a 256MB pipe?
> :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 12:47
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. 
> Keep in mind that PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message 
> stored twice), but I think that conversion is done on the client side.
> 
> I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the 
> wrong end of a 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other 
> traffic. Outlook, especially the newer versions, are fairly 
> stingy with network traffic.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > 
> > 
> > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire
> > Exchange strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of 
> > that strategy includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with 
> > Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the 
> > people round here have Personal Folders containing there 
> > email, which in turn means that there is no way they are 
> > getting backed up.
> > 
> > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  
> > Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for 
> > such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of 
> > my wages for a larger link ;p
> > 
> > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess 
> > is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect 
> > the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection 
> > you would think they were the ideal candidate for this 
> > situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it 
> > completely kills the network when you have a few people 
> > synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > 
> > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average
> > Personal Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when 
> > using offline folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im 
> > also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail 
> > box it is not automatically synchronised with the server?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info
> > on working with synchronise folders within a working 
> > enterprise.  No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, 
> > I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this 
> > solution.
> > 
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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Agreed. Leave em on. 


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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I leave them on - it's a good indication someone is hijacking their mail
accounts.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?
> 
> 
> Off topic.
> 
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender 
> we are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the 
> sender notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did 
> not actually send any virus.
> I know we can turn off the notification, but then users who are 
> sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  Kind of 
> a catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are 
> regarding notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled 
> sender notifications or are you just living with it?
> 
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Bartley
We leave them off. The majority of today's virus' and Trojans are not
from who they say they are. If we see one that is legitimate on the From
address we will send a note separately. 

Notifying the sender when they weren't the sender doesn't really help
them know their email was hijacked. They can't use the notice to track
down who really sent it so it usually just agitates the person.

We do leave admin notification on though. 

It is also nice for not email bombing a list someone might subscribe to,
such as a security list where people send sample code that is often
identified by most scanners as an active code.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 08:19
To: Exchange Discussions

I leave them on - it's a good indication someone is hijacking their mail
accounts.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?
> 
> 
> Off topic.
> 
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof 
> the sender we are starting to get complaints from users who 
> are receiving the sender notifications messages from our 
> ScanMail virus scanner who did not actually send any virus.  
> I know we can turn off the notification, but then users who 
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are 
> infected.  Kind of a catch 22.  I'm curious what other 
> administrators policies are regarding notification messages 
> to the sender.  Have you disabled sender notifications or are 
> you just living with it?
> 
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
> 
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Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Dave Vantine
I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen here:
"Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar
Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to
.com on outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
"Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I
have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Best Practices for Exchange2K Implementation

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'd suggest using a network to network VPN for the small offices - we do it
with Cisco PIX 506 firewalls, but most of our "small offices" are 25-40
people. Many of the $300-500 SOHO firewalls, and some of the even less
expensive ones, suppor that kind of functionality.

That also gives you a lot more control for supporting the offices.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Best Practices for Exchange2K Implementation
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We are a small company but spread out offices all around.
> 
> I wonder what would be a justified number of users 
> (mailboxes) to host a exchange server (Exchange 2K-SP3 )  in 
> a remote office. Does anyone use MAPI client over internet to 
> connect to exchange server ? Are there any recommended 
> settings in Outlook (Outlook-2000) to minimize the network 
> traffic (specially for those who are on dial-up internet access) ?
> 
> I would really appreciate any feedback in this regard.
> 
> Thank you in anticipation,
> 
> Kishore 
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RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
The fact that you're asking for help on an incredibly well documented
process that has also been beaten to death over the 7-8 years of this lists
existance probably garnered you a response you weren't happy with.

There's this really cool document called "The Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery
Whitepaper, Version 3" which is freely downloadable from Microsoft's web
site. Have you even read that?

IIRC, you also wanted to do a restore using Backup Exec from a tape created
by ArcServe. That can't be done, they're completely different tape formats.
You're going to need to get a copy of ArkenServer and use that. Its also
possible that CA's new product, Brightstor[1], won't be able to recover the
tapes.

Your best bet might be to contact some data recovery services to see what
options they provide.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

[1] CA follows the adage that once they've out of good will in the
marketplace with a product, they'll just rename the product and sell it to a
whole new set of unsuspecting dupes


> -Original Message-
> From: labigdawrg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.
> 
> 
> Thank you to Samantha for the kind words and to the "warm" 
> welcome from the guy whose knowledge on the subject resulted 
> in no help at all.
> 
> I specifically asked within my post if what my thought 
> process at the time was logical and could result in a 
> solution or should I build another Exchange server. If you 
> read the first part of the message, I clearly stated that it 
> was my second day on the job.
> 
> I understand that a DR environment is necessary but was not 
> available and to give a little more information I was not 
> looking for anyone to do my job but rather some direction 
> since the 2yr data that needed to be retrieved was for 
> litigation purposes and should have been done weeks earlier 
> prior to my new responsibility. Add to that that there is no 
> DR environment and that the email backups take place on a 
> remote server that is not running Exchange then maybe you can 
> see my dilemma. But I thought at the time that I did not need 
> to include all of this because I did not care to waste anyone's time.
> 
> I may have experience in an area where one day you may need 
> assistance and just a note to let you know that I will assist 
> to a degree if I can but I will not waste your time with such 
> comments as the ones you gave. I am not upset about it but 
> rather request that if you want to respond to a post then how 
> about trying to help rather than possibly waste the author's 
> time as well with hollow words?
> 
> LABD
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Dave Vantine
It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
"Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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Exchange and OWA setup

2003-06-09 Thread David Lloyd
Hi Guys,
I wonder if you can advise me on this set up i'm planning for a 15 user
company.

Existing setup:
One server with a broadband connection (512k) running NT4/Exchange
5.5/Winroute proxy and is multihomed
for the broadband connection.
Currently its used for around 15 connections for Exchange and general file
and print aswell as Internet access.
5 VPN connections are also hosted.


They now have asked if i can set up OWA for them. I'm reluctant to set up
OWA on the existing 
server as its this machine that's open and i have suggested moving Exchange
off this box and on to 
another server,  which i will then put OWA up and other services such as
FTP.
I will use Win2000 server,  as its time to also upgrade the OS. 
I will then continue to use Exchange 5.5

Questions:
What do u think?
Are there any issues i should be aware off with say routing?


Thnks

David


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RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



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Re: RUS

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
The exception is if *all* the DCs are GCs, even in the case of a
multi-domain forest, the IM can be on any of them.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sander Van Butzelaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: RUS



Both your DCs are GCs. Good for exchange but one of the FSMO roles (the
Infrastructure Master) does not want to be on a GC. It doesn't update if
it is run on a GC. Not sure if this applies in a single domain too.

Q1971322:
NOTE: The Infrastructure Master (IM) role should be held by a domain
controller that is not a Global Catalog server(GC). If the
Infrastructure Master runs on a Global Catalog server it will stop
updating object information because it does not contain any references
to objects that it does not hold. This is because a Global Catalog
server holds a partial replica of every object in the forest. As a
result, cross-domain object references in that domain will not be
updated and a warning to that effect will be logged on that DC's event
log.

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Pham, Tuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 June 2003 05:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RUS

I have 2 W2K DCs and they're both are GC server. Right now there are two
RUS, one is the enterprise point to DC1 and one is the organization also
point to DC1.  Technically, I can create another RUS and point it to DC2
so the GAL gets update as well , but I read somewhere that all I have to
do is change the Enterprise RUS to DC1 and the Org RUS to DC2.  Is that
true?

Thanks!

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Re: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
IMO, Use a real dot com domain name for your internal network, not a .loc!

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Vantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55


> I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
> our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
> have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen here:
> "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
> reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
> change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
> find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
> attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
> be applicable.
>
> Is there any way to change this?
>
> Thanks
> -Dave Vantine
>
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Re: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Live with it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?


> Off topic.
>
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender we
> are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the sender
> notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did not
actually
> send any virus.  I know we can turn off the notification, but then users
who
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  Kind of
a
> catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are regarding
> notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled sender
notifications
> or are you just living with it?
>
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
>
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Re: Outlook prob removing old account

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Recreate the Outlook profile?

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Hi,
Exch 2k sp3 outlook 2k
As per Ed's 'never restore' method, I have set up mailbox retention on
my departing users.  I gave permission  to the admin account to access a
users mailbox  who has departed in order to check any emails.  I have
since deleted the mailbox and account within AD however I still have the
mailbox showing under folder list for the admin account.  I have removed
it from the admin  account properties > advanced tab under outlook so I
am not sure why it would still be there.  Has anyone got any ideas a)
why it still may be there b) how to remove it from there?   I'm thinking
either stop/ start IS or recreate account/ mailbox.
Google/ Technet didn't throw up anything I could find but then that may
be my search criteria.
Thanks
Rob
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Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Yep.
Once they fix some of the bugs, Outlook 11 is the ticket.

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Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


> Without going directly into the OST/PST discussion I would suggest to look
> at the new Outlook 11 coming up on the horizon. A lot of new features have
> to do with slow links.
>
> **  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Neil Doody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:34 AM
> Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
>
>
> Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange
> strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that strategy
> includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this
> highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal
> Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way
> they are getting backed up.
>
> The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k
> ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more!  Okay you can
> scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users,
> but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p
>
> Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is
> out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders.
> Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small
> test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal
> candidate for this situation.  However, a colleague informs me that it
> completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising
> folders over an 64k link.
>
> Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal
> Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when using offline
> folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed that when you
> make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised
> with the server?
>
>
>
> Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working
> with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.  No matter how
> irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im
> in for if I move to this solution.
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
"Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
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Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Tell em to quit browsing all that pron then!
In a previous life, we had a few 30 user offices with a 256 link back to the
main Exch Server and rarely had issues.
And we were passing cad files around all day!

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


> Trust me. 256k isn't enough for our users. It all depends on the
> application, and the applications one of these offices support uses a lot
of
> bandwidth between their clients and the servers in our production data
> center. Tack onto that Internet access, mail, and other internal
> applications, and 256k disappears quickly.
>
>
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:55 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> >
> >
> > how can a 256meg pipe be bad?
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 07:47
> > Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> >
> >
> > > Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in
> > > mind
> > that
> > > PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice),
> > but I think
> > that
> > > conversion is done on the client side.
> > >
> > > I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong
> > > end of
> > a
> > > 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
> > especially
> > > the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the
> > entire Exchange
> > > > strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that
> > strategy
> > > > includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item
> > Retention, this
> > > > highlights the issue that most of the people round here have
> > > > Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means that
> > > > there is no way they are getting backed up.
> > > >
> > > > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > only a 64k
> > > > ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can
> > > > scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of
> > > > users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a
> > larger link
> > > > ;p
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > Mail Box
> > > > is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is
> > > > Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the
> > > > solution, running a small test over a dial up connection
> > you would
> > > > think they were the ideal candidate for this situation.
> > However, a
> > > > colleague informs me that it completely kills the network
> > when you
> > > > have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > > >
> > > > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your
> > average Personal
> > > > Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when
> > using offline
> > > > folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed
> > that when
> > > > you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically
> > > > synchronised with the server?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on
> > > > working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.  No
> > > > matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know
> > > > exactly what im in for if I move to this solution.
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
spoofing your address.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
"Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


> It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> spoofing your address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
> It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>
> What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It
> is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange
> Server.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
> One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
> outgoing mail.
>
> Sander
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
> I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
> our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
> have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> here:
> "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
> reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
> change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
> find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
> attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
> be applicable.
>
> Is there any way to change this?
>
> Thanks
> -Dave Vantine
>
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Doody
God damn, don't talk to me about CAD files.


Were a construction company :o


Random User : "Hello the system is Slow"
Me : "Is anyone receiving any emails?"
Random User : "No"
Me : "Have you checked with the drawing department?"



And when its over a 64k ISDN line, it doesn't work to well, roll on
outlook 11 by the sounds of things.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 13:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

Tell em to quit browsing all that pron then!
In a previous life, we had a few 30 user offices with a 256 link back to
the
main Exch Server and rarely had issues.
And we were passing cad files around all day!

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith


> Trust me. 256k isn't enough for our users. It all depends on the
> application, and the applications one of these offices support uses a
lot
of
> bandwidth between their clients and the servers in our production data
> center. Tack onto that Internet access, mail, and other internal
> applications, and 256k disappears quickly.
>
>
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:55 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> >
> >
> > how can a 256meg pipe be bad?
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 07:47
> > Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> >
> >
> > > Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in
> > > mind
> > that
> > > PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice),
> > but I think
> > that
> > > conversion is done on the client side.
> > >
> > > I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the
wrong
> > > end of
> > a
> > > 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
> > especially
> > > the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the
> > entire Exchange
> > > > strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that
> > strategy
> > > > includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item
> > Retention, this
> > > > highlights the issue that most of the people round here have
> > > > Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means
that
> > > > there is no way they are getting backed up.
> > > >
> > > > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > only a 64k
> > > > ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can
> > > > scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of
> > > > users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a
> > larger link
> > > > ;p
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > Mail Box
> > > > is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is
> > > > Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the
> > > > solution, running a small test over a dial up connection
> > you would
> > > > think they were the ideal candidate for this situation.
> > However, a
> > > > colleague informs me that it completely kills the network
> > when you
> > > > have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > > >
> > > > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your
> > average Personal
> > > > Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when
> > using offline
> > > > folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed
> > that when
> > > > you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically
> > > > synchronised with the server?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on
> > > > working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise.
No
> > > > matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to
know
> > > > exactly what im in for if I move to this solution.
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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

- Original Message - 
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


> It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> spoofing your address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
> It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>
> What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It
> is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange
> Server.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
> One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
> outgoing mail.
>
> Sander
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
> I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
> our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
> have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> here:
> "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have
> reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
> change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
> find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
> attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
> be applicable.
>
> Is there any way to change this?
>
> Thanks
> -Dave Vantine
>
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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Hobson
Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL
logging is set to max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 09 June 2003 15:03
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



Anyone else experience this before?  Thanks.

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Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

"As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another."



- Original Message - 
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> > spoofing your address.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
> network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
> It
> > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> Exchange
> > Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
> > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
> > outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance
> of
> > our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3.
> I
> > have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> > here:
> > "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I
have
> > reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way
> to
> > change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
> > find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
> > attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
> > be applicable.
> >
> > Is there any way to change this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Dave Vantine
> >
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RE: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
I am not AD yet so I am only somewhat familiar with what you referenced.
I conceide your point though.
I accept my public flogging with only no regrets.
I was under the wrong understanding that if you setup an internal DNS that
was not Fully Qualified it would not
be able to be spoofed externally and thus my internal email server would not
be able to be some lonely kids relay
toy or spam generator.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE:
Change FQDN in Ex55


Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

"As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another."



- Original Message - 
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> > spoofing your address.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
> network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
> It
> > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> Exchange
> > Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
> > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
> > outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance
> of
> > our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3.
> I
> > have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> > here:
> > "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I
have
> > reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way
> to
> > change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
> > find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
> > attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
> > be applicable.
> >
> > Is there any way to change this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Dave Vantine
> >
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Doody
Im guessing then that the main disadvantage with current Offline Folder
is the fact that when emails come in you are working from the Mailbox,
so you open a large email and its not held in your Offline Folders until
you synchronise, that means downloading the email again.

Also, what would happen if emails got deleted off the server and people
synchronise?  The synchronise folders will delete the missing emails
from themselves?



So as it stands, Offline Folders are not really a viable solution for
small bandwidth sites as they leave you working from the mailboxes.  By
sounds of things, the best use for Offline Folders would be a 15 minute
synch interval, but once you have a synch of an email are you working
from the synch folder or from the Mailbox when you read them and you are
Online?

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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread William Lefkovics
What are the odds? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

"As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another."



- Original Message -
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> > spoofing your address.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
> network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
> It
> > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> Exchange
> > Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
> > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
> > outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >


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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
I checked all of this.  I don't get any errors in the application log
except the one mentioned.  Everything is set to maximum logging.  I'm
stuck. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL logging is set to
max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:03 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



Anyone else experience this before?  Thanks.

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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Keith.Hanna
100:1?

(we all know how often they happen)

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 15:49
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What are the odds? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

"As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another."



- Original Message -
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> > spoofing your address.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
> network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
> It
> > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> Exchange
> > Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
> > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
> > outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >


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Re: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc

- Original Message - 
From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What are the odds?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

"As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another."



- Original Message -
From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
> > spoofing your address.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
> > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
> network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
> It
> > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> Exchange
> > Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
> > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
> > outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >


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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Sojka
Can I buy a vowel?

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
> Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
> (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> What are the odds?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Best practices recommend otherwise:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> hnet/prodtechn
> ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp
> 
> "As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet 
> authority in
> the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are 
> guaranteed to be
> globally unique. If another organization later registers the 
> same DNS domain
> name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is 
> acquired by other
> company that uses the same DNS names then the two 
> infrastructures can never
> interact with one another."
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** 
> RE: Change FQDN
> in Ex55
> 
> 
> > They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> > Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your 
> email domain and
> > > spoofing your address.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
> generally, most
> > > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for 
> your internal
> > network.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > > It is not the email address that I want change. Our 
> current addressing
> is
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > >
> > > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that 
> Exchange is writing.
> > It
> > > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> > Exchange
> > > Server.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email 
> address, or only
> .loc?
> > > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite 
> your .loc to .com
> on
> > > outgoing mail.
> > >
> > > Sander
> > >
> 
> 
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Re: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David


- Original Message - 
From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Can I buy a vowel?

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
> Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
> (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
>
>
> What are the odds?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Best practices recommend otherwise:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> hnet/prodtechn
> ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp
>
> "As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet
> authority in
> the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are
> guaranteed to be
> globally unique. If another organization later registers the
> same DNS domain
> name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is
> acquired by other
> company that uses the same DNS names then the two
> infrastructures can never
> interact with one another."
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
> RE: Change FQDN
> in Ex55
>
>
> > They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> > Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your
> email domain and
> > > spoofing your address.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
> generally, most
> > > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for
> your internal
> > network.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > > It is not the email address that I want change. Our
> current addressing
> is
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > >
> > > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
> Exchange is writing.
> > It
> > > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
> > Exchange
> > > Server.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
> address, or only
> .loc?
> > > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite
> your .loc to .com
> on
> > > outgoing mail.
> > >
> > > Sander
> > >
>
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Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Mitchell Mike
Good morning,

Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know why I
want
to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are
currently
on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  Help!!!

Have a great week.

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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Hobson
Out of interest, have you at any point cycled the System Attendant
service on your E2k box?

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 09 June 2003 15:41
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


I checked all of this.  I don't get any errors in the application log
except the one mentioned.  Everything is set to maximum logging.  I'm
stuck. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL logging is set to
max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:03 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
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subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Sojka
Hmmm.  I have some money left over.  Can I get that ceramic dalmatian for
$50? 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
> (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> Can I buy a vowel?
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** 
> RE: ** SPAM
> > (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > What are the odds?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Best practices recommend otherwise:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> > hnet/prodtechn
> > ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp
> >
> > "As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet
> > authority in
> > the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are
> > guaranteed to be
> > globally unique. If another organization later registers the
> > same DNS domain
> > name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is
> > acquired by other
> > company that uses the same DNS names then the two
> > infrastructures can never
> > interact with one another."
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> > Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
> > RE: Change FQDN
> > in Ex55
> >
> >
> > > They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "David McSpadden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
> > > Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > > It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your
> > email domain and
> > > > spoofing your address.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Andy David
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > > > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
> > generally, most
> > > > recommendations now are to use a real domain name for
> > your internal
> > > network.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > > It is not the email address that I want change. Our
> > current addressing
> > is
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > >
> > > > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
> > Exchange is writing.
> > > It
> > > > is now writing this based upon the internal DNS 
> information on the
> > > Exchange
> > > > Server.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
> > address, or only
> > .loc?
> > > > One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite
> > your .loc to .com
> > on
> > > > outgoing mail.
> > > >
> > > > Sander
> > > >
> >
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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Nope Not yet.  I am going to reboot tonight. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Out of interest, have you at any point cycled the System Attendant
service on your E2k box?

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:41 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


I checked all of this.  I don't get any errors in the application log
except the one mentioned.  Everything is set to maximum logging.  I'm
stuck. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL logging is set to
max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:03 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



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Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
This isnt enough?
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/ex2003intro.asp


- Original Message - 
From: "Mitchell Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


> Good morning,
>
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know why
I
> want
> to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are
> currently
> on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.
>
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  Help!!!
>
> Have a great week.
>
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems email Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
>
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Henderson Richard
Good point ,  what is the business case for email now?


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Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


Good morning,

Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know why I
want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we
are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  Help!!!

Have a great week.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Keith.Hanna
Exchange won't be the expensive bit - AD will.
:)


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Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


Good morning,

Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know why I
want
to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are
currently
on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  Help!!!

Have a great week.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Hobson
The last I heard, mainstream support for 5.5 ends on Dec 31st 2003, so
that may be a good enough reason.  You should have stuck with MSMail -
no need for that expensive Exchange rubbish!  :-)

Neil

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Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Subject: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


Good morning,

Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know
why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.  I
mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  Help!!!

Have a great week.

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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Robert Moir


> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants 
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
> Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Mitchell Mike
great reply

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants 
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
> Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
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How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
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Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Bob Sadler
I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow
OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for
everyone; or so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,
let everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
> Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread William Lefkovics
"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3" 

>From a session at TechEd. 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.  That's
almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA
to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or
so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let
everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
> Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Bob Sadler
Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the
"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the
ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194


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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3" 

>From a session at TechEd. 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.
That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow
OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for
everyone; or so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,
let everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know 
> why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.

> I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  
> Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

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Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

2003-06-09 Thread Greg
Is it possible? If so how? 

I have a list of contacts from an affiliated company's Exchange server in
Excal format and I need to import it. Any idea how?

Thanks Greg

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Help...exchange down

2003-06-09 Thread Bennett, Warren Mr DAC 5 SIG CMD
I have a 5.5 server whos drive c is toast. Tried getting it to boot, tried a
repair but it looks like the controller is the culprit. The server is
running NT 4.0 with sp 6a.

I have tried reviving the server but no luck. I have a full backup of
exchange and I need to get this restored onto a new server. The problem is
that when I try to install exchange to the new server (which now has the
name and IP of the old server) the install tells me that the server already
exists in the site (attempted joining the existing site) OF COURSE! Anyway
are there any suggestions on getting the old server exchange backup restored
to the new server?

Thanks Loads!

Warren

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RE: Help...exchange down

2003-06-09 Thread Bailey, Matthew
Have tried deleting the computer account then trying joining the domain?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Help...exchange down
> 
> 
> I have a 5.5 server whos drive c is toast. Tried getting it 
> to boot, tried a
> repair but it looks like the controller is the culprit. The server is
> running NT 4.0 with sp 6a.
> 
> I have tried reviving the server but no luck. I have a full backup of
> exchange and I need to get this restored onto a new server. 
> The problem is
> that when I try to install exchange to the new server (which 
> now has the
> name and IP of the old server) the install tells me that the 
> server already
> exists in the site (attempted joining the existing site) OF 
> COURSE! Anyway
> are there any suggestions on getting the old server exchange 
> backup restored
> to the new server?
> 
> Thanks Loads!
> 
> Warren
> 
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RE: Help...exchange down

2003-06-09 Thread Bennett, Warren Mr DAC 5 SIG CMD
I can get the new server joined to the domain with the old servers name and
IP.

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Sent:   Monday, June 09, 2003 5:36 PM
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Subject:RE: Help...exchange down

Have tried deleting the computer account then trying joining the domain?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bennett, Warren Mr DAC 5 SIG CMD 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Help...exchange down
> 
> 
> I have a 5.5 server whos drive c is toast. Tried getting it 
> to boot, tried a
> repair but it looks like the controller is the culprit. The server is
> running NT 4.0 with sp 6a.
> 
> I have tried reviving the server but no luck. I have a full backup of
> exchange and I need to get this restored onto a new server. 
> The problem is
> that when I try to install exchange to the new server (which 
> now has the
> name and IP of the old server) the install tells me that the 
> server already
> exists in the site (attempted joining the existing site) OF 
> COURSE! Anyway
> are there any suggestions on getting the old server exchange 
> backup restored
> to the new server?
> 
> Thanks Loads!
> 
> Warren
> 
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Webb, Andy
- AVAPI 2.5.

 

It allows the AV vendors to actually delete messages containing viruses or matching 
the spam filters, if enabled, rather than just modifying the content/attachments.  It 
also allows for stamping of a spam confidence level on messages so that users can 
choose how spammy they want their mailboxes to be using client software (would likely 
come from the same 3rd party virus vendor).

 

- More transport queue exposure

  Allows for better troubleshooting.

 

- Vastly improved management of public folders through ESM

 

- Support for Windows 2003 AD features

 

- Better bytes over the wire performance for LAN connected users

 

- Vastly improved OWA including spellcheck, attachment filtering and junk mail rules

 

- More management capabilities exposed through WMI (like being able to generate 
mailbox size reports with a script)

 

- Ability to use public or private RBLs

 

- Lots and lots of stability improvements over Exchange 2000.  

 

 

I don't know that any of these are compelling for you, but those are some of the 
interesting things for me.  Remember that this is very much like Exchange 5.5 was to 
Exchange 5.0.  Nothing earth shattering, but nobody still wants to be running on 5.0.

 

 



ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released

http://www.swinc.com/erm 



 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:25 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the

"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the

ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that

Exchange2000 sp3" 

 

>From a session at TechEd. 

 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.

That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

 

William

 

 

-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

 

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

 

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow

OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for

everyone; or so they say.

 

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,

let everyone else work out the bugs :)

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

 

 

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52

> To: Exchange Discussions

> 

> Good morning,

> 

> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know 

> why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.

 

> I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

> 

> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  

> Help!!!

 

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to

figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

 

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a

lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow

links?

 

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it

makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and

upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.

 

 

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GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Jasa, Ken
All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Show them the OWA for 2k3 and they'll, um, er, like it.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
> 
> 
> I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.
> 
> Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, 
> as we allow OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that 
> is just fine for everyone; or so they say.
> 
> I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least 
> a year, let everyone else work out the bugs :)
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Sadler
> City of Leawood, KS, USA
> WAN/Internet Specialist
> 913-339-6700 x194
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team 
> wants to know 
> > why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  
> > I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.
> > 
> > How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  
> > Help!!!
> 
> What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy 
> enough to figure out) that you will need / want to do in 
> future (not so easy)?
> 
> How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do 
> you have a lot of road warriors or people on remote sites 
> with relatively slow links?
> 
> Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so 
> then it makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user 
> directories and upgrading to a newer version of exchange 
> would enable this.
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RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
You don't want to know what they're doing. And its not pr0n, either.[1]

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

[1] Not anymore. He was let go a few years ago.


> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> Tell em to quit browsing all that pron then!
> In a previous life, we had a few 30 user offices with a 256 
> link back to the main Exch Server and rarely had issues. And 
> we were passing cad files around all day!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:21 AM
> Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> 
> 
> > Trust me. 256k isn't enough for our users. It all depends on the 
> > application, and the applications one of these offices 
> support uses a 
> > lot
> of
> > bandwidth between their clients and the servers in our 
> production data 
> > center. Tack onto that Internet access, mail, and other internal 
> > applications, and 256k disappears quickly.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:55 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > >
> > >
> > > how can a 256meg pipe be bad?
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 07:47
> > > Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > >
> > >
> > > > Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% 
> sure. Keep in 
> > > > mind
> > > that
> > > > PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice),
> > > but I think
> > > that
> > > > conversion is done on the client side.
> > > >
> > > > I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the 
> > > > wrong end of
> > > a
> > > > 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook,
> > > especially
> > > > the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the
> > > entire Exchange
> > > > > strategy that is in place here.  The biggest bulk of that
> > > strategy
> > > > > includes Backups.  The new idea is to go with Item
> > > Retention, this
> > > > > highlights the issue that most of the people round here have 
> > > > > Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means 
> > > > > that there is no way they are getting backed up.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have
> > > only a 64k
> > > > > ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! 
> Okay you can 
> > > > > scrutinise me for having such a small link for such 
> an amount of 
> > > > > users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a
> > > larger link
> > > > > ;p
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the
> > > Mail Box
> > > > > is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is 
> > > > > Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the 
> > > > > solution, running a small test over a dial up connection
> > > you would
> > > > > think they were the ideal candidate for this situation.
> > > However, a
> > > > > colleague informs me that it completely kills the network
> > > when you
> > > > > have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your
> > > average Personal
> > > > > Folder?  Are there any other issues to consider when
> > > using offline
> > > > > folders as apposed to personal folders?  Im also informed
> > > that when
> > > > > you make a new folder in your mail box it is not 
> automatically 
> > > > > synchronised with the server?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please can you give me all your experience and all 
> your info on 
> > > > > working with synchronise folders within a working 
> enterprise.  
> > > > > No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I 
> would like to 
> > > > > know exactly what im in for if I move to this solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > 
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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Durkee, Peter
We've turned them off. I'd guess that 99% of the viruses that we receive have spoofed 
sender addresses, and I don't see the benefit of hitting all those people with 
incorrect virus alerts.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Virus Notifications to Sender?


Live with it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?


> Off topic.
>
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender we
> are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the sender
> notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did not
actually
> send any virus.  I know we can turn off the notification, but then users
who
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  Kind of
a
> catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are regarding
> notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled sender
notifications
> or are you just living with it?
>
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
>
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Bob Sadler
Yes, but then I have to upgrade to OS 2003 too :)  Talk about a full day
:)

You are right though, there are some very interesting things in that
list, and I probably will see what my upgrade cost will be sooner then
later :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


- AVAPI 2.5.

 

It allows the AV vendors to actually delete messages containing viruses
or matching the spam filters, if enabled, rather than just modifying the
content/attachments.  It also allows for stamping of a spam confidence
level on messages so that users can choose how spammy they want their
mailboxes to be using client software (would likely come from the same
3rd party virus vendor).

 

- More transport queue exposure

  Allows for better troubleshooting.

 

- Vastly improved management of public folders through ESM

 

- Support for Windows 2003 AD features

 

- Better bytes over the wire performance for LAN connected users

 

- Vastly improved OWA including spellcheck, attachment filtering and
junk mail rules

 

- More management capabilities exposed through WMI (like being able to
generate mailbox size reports with a script)

 

- Ability to use public or private RBLs

 

- Lots and lots of stability improvements over Exchange 2000.  

 

 

I don't know that any of these are compelling for you, but those are
some of the interesting things for me.  Remember that this is very much
like Exchange 5.5 was to Exchange 5.0.  Nothing earth shattering, but
nobody still wants to be running on 5.0.

 

 



ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released

http://www.swinc.com/erm 



 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:25 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the

"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the

ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that

Exchange2000 sp3" 

 

>From a session at TechEd. 

 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.

That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

 

William

 

 

-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

 

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

 

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow

OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for

everyone; or so they say.

 

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,

let everyone else work out the bugs :)

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

 

 

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52

> To: Exchange Discussions

> 

> Good morning,

> 

> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know

> why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.

 

> I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

> 

> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.

> Help!!!

 

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to

figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

 

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a

lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow

links?

 

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it

makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and

upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.

 

 

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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not registerable)
domain names now.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
> I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
> generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain 
> name for your internal network.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
> addressing is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 
> 
> What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange 
> is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal 
> DNS information on the Exchange Server. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, 
> or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could 
> rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail. 
> 
> Sander
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to 
> .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We 
> are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue 
> with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> here:
> "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
> (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have reviewed both Robichaux's 
> and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change 
> this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was 
> unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at 
> just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects 
> especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
> 
> Is there any way to change this?
> 
> Thanks
> -Dave Vantine
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Anyone with .005 of a brain who can read mail headers can see whether mail
is spoofed or not.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: David McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email 
> domain and spoofing your address.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
> I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
> generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain 
> name for your internal network.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
> addressing is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 
> 
> What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange 
> is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal 
> DNS information on the Exchange Server. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, 
> or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could 
> rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail. 
> 
> Sander
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to 
> .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We 
> are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue 
> with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> here:
> "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
> (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have reviewed both Robichaux's 
> and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change 
> this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was 
> unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at 
> just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects 
> especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
> 
> Is there any way to change this?
> 
> Thanks
> -Dave Vantine
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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher Hummert
Yea but what about that 1% that has no clue their sending out viruses?

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?


We've turned them off. I'd guess that 99% of the viruses that we receive
have spoofed sender addresses, and I don't see the benefit of hitting
all those people with incorrect virus alerts.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Virus Notifications to Sender?


Live with it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?


> Off topic.
>
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender

> we are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the 
> sender notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did 
> not
actually
> send any virus.  I know we can turn off the notification, but then 
> users
who
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  
> Kind of
a
> catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are 
> regarding notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled 
> sender
notifications
> or are you just living with it?
>
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Neil Hobson
There were issues with the system attendant's detection logic that could
potentially result in stuck threads, causing issues such as the RUS not
stamping addresses.  I don't recall seeing that myself, but a system
attenant service cycle is a quick and free sanity check before calling
PSS!

Neil

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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 09 June 2003 15:56
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Nope Not yet.  I am going to reboot tonight. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Out of interest, have you at any point cycled the System Attendant
service on your E2k box?

Neil

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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:41 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


I checked all of this.  I don't get any errors in the application log
except the one mentioned.  Everything is set to maximum logging.  I'm
stuck. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL logging is set to
max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

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June 2003 15:03 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


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From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
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RE: Outlook prob removing old account

2003-06-09 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Friggin' Lyris!!

Delete and recreate your Outlook profile.

Had the exact same scenario last week on Ex5.5...in fact, after I "removed"
the mailbox, not only did it not go away, I had TWO instances of the same
mailbox in my Folder list.  Deleting and recreating profile quickly fixed
the problem.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: Outlook prob removing old account


Hi, 
Exch 2k sp3 outlook 2k
As per Ed's 'never restore' method, I have set up mailbox retention on my
departing users.  I gave permission  to the admin account to access a users
mailbox  who has departed in order to check any emails.  I have since
deleted the mailbox and account within AD however I still have the mailbox
showing under folder list for the admin account.  I have removed it from the
admin  account properties > advanced tab under outlook so I am not sure why
it would still be there.  Has anyone got any ideas a)
why it still may be there b) how to remove it from there?   I'm thinking
either stop/ start IS or recreate account/ mailbox.
Google/ Technet didn't throw up anything I could find but then that may be
my search criteria. Thanks Rob Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead
Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320


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RE: RUS problems

2003-06-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
I finally got an event error...

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /O=GSW/OU=Columbus/cn=Recipients/cn=kmoran. 

The Schema was properly extended and this attribute exists, but its not
getting set.  Which means the RUS is not running and goes back to my
original post... 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

There were issues with the system attendant's detection logic that could
potentially result in stuck threads, causing issues such as the RUS not
stamping addresses.  I don't recall seeing that myself, but a system
attenant service cycle is a quick and free sanity check before calling
PSS!

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:56 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Nope Not yet.  I am going to reboot tonight. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Out of interest, have you at any point cycled the System Attendant
service on your E2k box?

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:41 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


I checked all of this.  I don't get any errors in the application log
except the one mentioned.  Everything is set to maximum logging.  I'm
stuck. 


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Four common ways the RUS can break:

These are the most common ways that the RUS can break:

1) RUS configuration references a deleted DC or E2K server, or the
servers defined in RUS configuration are flakey at best.  Browse both
entries and choose alternates, if available.

2) Inheritable permissions are removed on an OU and the RUS is no longer
able to reach the objects within it.  (Q297124)

3) RUS is unable to generate email addresses because it is unable to
locate a third party email address generator (DLL file).  This can occur
in mixed environments where an Exchange 5.5 server had fax software or
the like installed.  Exchange 2000 builds its recipient policies based
on Ex55 site addressing (which includes the third party address).  Since
the DLL does not exist on the E2K server used by the RUS, the RUS will
fire Event IDs 2035, 2037, and 2027 if MSExchangeAL logging is set to
max.  (Q286356)

4) If the RUS encounters a distribution list that has its membership
hidden, it will not be able to stamp it with mail attributes and will go
to sleep. (Q287137)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09
June 2003 15:03 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems


Yeah, I have the correct server selected.  I have also tried another in
the same site.  This is definitely weird.  No errors at all.  I might
need to consult PSS on this one.  Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's a silly question, I know, but did you make sure the RUS is pointing
to the correct (and valid) server?

Otherwise the only other references I can find are to problems with a
Global Catalog server.  Not too many exciting KB's for the RUS.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 09, 2003 8:44 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: RUS problems
Subject: RE: RUS problems



Exch2k SP3

When I disable an account and hide it from the GAL the RUS stamps the
HideFromAddressList as true, but our Outlook Clients aren't reflecting
the change.  If I do a preview from ESM of the Gal, it shows it as
hidden?  I have restarted Outlook and pointed to a different Global
Catalog Server with no luck.  Also  it looks like if I create a new user
the RUS is not updating it.  I have turned up logging to Maximum on all
relevant stuff and no errors on a rebuild except fo this one.  All of
our DCs and GCs are up.


NSPI Proxy encountered an error while receiving a packet. The target
Domain Controller or the network or a client might be down. The winsock
subsystem returned the error:[0x2746]. The circuit that received this
error is being closed. 



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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a month...only 3 false 
positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self maintainable whitelists if mail is 
configured to route out through MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are 
customizablebeautiful product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
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RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

2003-06-09 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Exchange version?

Are you wanting to add a mailbox for them on your servers or just add a
Cust. Recipient entry in the GAL?

-Original Message-
From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?


Is it possible? If so how? 

I have a list of contacts from an affiliated company's Exchange server in
Excal format and I need to import it. Any idea how?

Thanks Greg

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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Jasa, Ken
Thanks for taking the time to reply Casey. 
How much spam do you think is still sneaking through?

Ken

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a
month...only 3 false positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self
maintainable whitelists if mail is configured to route out through
MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are customizablebeautiful
product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?

2003-06-09 Thread Durkee, Peter
They're getting replies from everyone in their address books saying, "what was that 
strange message you sent?" 

-Peter


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?


Yea but what about that 1% that has no clue their sending out viruses?

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?


We've turned them off. I'd guess that 99% of the viruses that we receive
have spoofed sender addresses, and I don't see the benefit of hitting
all those people with incorrect virus alerts.

-Peter


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:50
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Subject: Re: Virus Notifications to Sender?


Live with it.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?


> Off topic.
>
> With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the sender

> we are starting to get complaints from users who are receiving the 
> sender notifications messages from our ScanMail virus scanner who did 
> not
actually
> send any virus.  I know we can turn off the notification, but then 
> users
who
> are sending viruses will not get notified that they are infected.  
> Kind of
a
> catch 22.  I'm curious what other administrators policies are 
> regarding notification messages to the sender.  Have you disabled 
> sender
notifications
> or are you just living with it?
>
> Pete Pfefferkorn
> Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> University of Cincinnati
> 51 Goodman Street
> Cincinnati, OH  45221
> Phone - (513) 556-9076
> Fax -   (513) 556-2042
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Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread William Lefkovics
It's the recovery storage group I like.
And Volume Shadow Copy Service.
Granted I don't need an 8-node cluster
OWA is just fluff.


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From: "Bob Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the
"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the
ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3" 

>From a session at TechEd. 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.
That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


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Priv1.edb and stm

2003-06-09 Thread Rob Hackney

Hi, 
Exch 2k on sbs2k - all SP'd up
I had a little scare earlier on with a simultaneous virus alert on one
user and a disk space warning from my server which turned out to be
totally unconnected however while I was trouble shooting a noticed a
couple of odd things:
1)  disk space on the server was decreasing rapidly from 8gb > 7.5 >
6.5 gb in the space of about 5 mins - anyone experienced this before?  

2)  my priv1.edb is @ 7.2 gb while the stm file was at 2.9gb.  I
looked at my users mailboxes and the total size of their mailboxes was
under 6gb.  Why would the   the two priv files be more than my users
mailboxes if the edb + stm = information store?  I'm probably missing
something here as I'm still pretty new to exch2k?

TIA
Rob

Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est
Keynsham
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RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

2003-06-09 Thread Greg Smith
Exchange 2000 - Just want to add contacts (name and Email address) for
affiliated company not part of our domain. 

Thanks, Greg

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

Exchange version?

Are you wanting to add a mailbox for them on your servers or just add a
Cust. Recipient entry in the GAL?

-Original Message-
From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?


Is it possible? If so how? 

I have a list of contacts from an affiliated company's Exchange server
in
Excal format and I need to import it. Any idea how?

Thanks Greg

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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
A pretty good guess is all I have.  Monitoring before/after filtering showed that mail 
received by my E2K server dropped by 35% when counting incoming messages during the 
same time frames.

I could go back through the monitor window that is installed with the product and 
look.  The monitor window shows every message received by the MailEssentials Gateway.

Further more, you can configure custom NDR's for messages deemed as spam by 
MailEssentials.  You can also configure disclaimers for outbound mail and you can set 
up to have messages that are considered spam sent to an e-mail address..like a public 
folder.



-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Thanks for taking the time to reply Casey. 
How much spam do you think is still sneaking through?

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a
month...only 3 false positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self
maintainable whitelists if mail is configured to route out through
MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are customizablebeautiful
product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Well, I wish they would make up their minds!

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


> Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
registerable)
> domain names now.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
> > generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain
> > name for your internal network.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current
> > addressing is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange
> > is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal
> > DNS information on the Exchange Server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address,
> > or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could
> > rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> > I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to
> > .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We
> > are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue
> > with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
> > here:
> > "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
> > (unknown[216.237.98.130]". I have reviewed both Robichaux's
> > and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change
> > this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was
> > unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at
> > just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
> > especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
> >
> > Is there any way to change this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Dave Vantine
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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Bill Kuhl
I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people were having 
trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different. All email 
sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail. Anything sent to a 
distribution list from Outlook Express or any other exchange client works fine. It is 
very strange. I contacted GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to 
contact them about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail essentials 
8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed but ends up in the 
badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read 'error is processing file in 
pickup directory', no other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do 
have valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard 
to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is 
beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I 
forgot to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post 
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

2003-06-09 Thread Tom Meunier
I've used BulkAddFromExcel, and it works great with users.  Maybe 
BulkContactsFromExcel will do what you're looking for.

http://www.cdolive.net/download/

-tom

-Original Message-
From: Greg Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:11 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into
Exchange?
Subject: RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?


Exchange 2000 - Just want to add contacts (name and Email address) for
affiliated company not part of our domain. 

Thanks, Greg

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?

Exchange version?

Are you wanting to add a mailbox for them on your servers or just add a
Cust. Recipient entry in the GAL?

-Original Message-
From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Bulk import of contact list from Excel sheet into Exchange?


Is it possible? If so how? 

I have a list of contacts from an affiliated company's Exchange server
in
Excal format and I need to import it. Any idea how?

Thanks Greg

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Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
At MEC I was told that they were already over 100,000 mailboxes on Exchange
2003 in production.

**  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with
Exchange 2003 **
--
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange 2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
www.sharepointserver.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - 
From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3"

>From a session at TechEd.

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.  That's
almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA
to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or
so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let
everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Good morning,
>
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and
> Exchange 5.5.
>
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.


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Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
All on the same PII, 128 Meg, 9.1 GB IDE, Dell OptiPlex. [1]

[1] What is this MEC you speak of?


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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


> At MEC I was told that they were already over 100,000 mailboxes on
Exchange
> 2003 in production.
>
> **  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with
> Exchange 2003 **
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange 2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> www.sharepointserver.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
>
>
> "Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
> Exchange2000 sp3"
>
> >From a session at TechEd.
>
> All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.  That's
> almost 80,000 mailboxes.
>
> William
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.
>
> Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow
OWA
> to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone;
or
> so they say.
>
> I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let
> everyone else work out the bugs :)
>
>
>
> Bob Sadler
> City of Leawood, KS, USA
> WAN/Internet Specialist
> 913-339-6700 x194
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
>
>
>
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> > to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange
> > 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and
> > Exchange 5.5.
> >
> > How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> > 2004.  Help!!!
>
> What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
> figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?
>
> How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
> lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
> links?
>
> Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
> makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
> upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.
>
>
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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
They made up their mind a few years back - register the friggin domain and
move on.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
> Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> 
> 
> > Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
> registerable)
> > domain names now.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
> generally, 
> > > most recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your 
> > > internal network.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
> > > addressing is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > >
> > > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is 
> > > writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS 
> > > information on the Exchange Server.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email 
> address, or only 
> > > .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your 
> > > .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
> > >
> > > Sander
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > >
> > > I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in 
> > > advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 
> > > 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP 
> header that 
> > > now sent out as seen
> > > here:
> > > "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
> (unknown[216.237.98.130]". 
> > > I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 
> > > looking for a way to change this so it appears to come from an 
> > > external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for 
> this. I have 
> > > also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
> > > especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
> > >
> > > Is there any way to change this?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Dave Vantine
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RE: additional display name?

2003-06-09 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Additionally, we create a new SMTP addy for their married name, set it as
the "reply to" address and leave the old one.

That way, people can still reply to her old e-mails and at some point, they
will start to see the new display name.

I.E.  Paula J Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) now becomes Paula J Jones
([EMAIL PROTECTED] AND [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Works for us...YMMV.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: additional display name?


We traditionally change the user to the married name (at their request, of
course) then add in parenthesis their maiden name:

Paula Jones (Smith)

Tends to work well. 

The only way to do what you want would be to create a second mailbox and set
the main mailbox as an alternate recipient. That's pretty kludgy to me.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


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> 
> Does anyone know of a way to have both a maiden name and
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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Move on to what?

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


> They made up their mind a few years back - register the friggin domain and
> move on.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
> > Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> >
> >
> > > Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
> > registerable)
> > > domain names now.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
> > > > I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
> > generally,
> > > > most recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your
> > > > internal network.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > > It is not the email address that I want change. Our current
> > > > addressing is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > >
> > > > What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is
> > > > writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS
> > > > information on the Exchange Server.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
> > address, or only
> > > > .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your
> > > > .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
> > > >
> > > > Sander
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
> > > >
> > > > I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
> > > > advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex
> > > > 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP
> > header that
> > > > now sent out as seen
> > > > here:
> > > > "Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
> > (unknown[216.237.98.130]".
> > > > I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5
> > > > looking for a way to change this so it appears to come from an
> > > > external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for
> > this. I have
> > > > also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
> > > > especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way to change this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Dave Vantine
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RE: Priv1.edb and stm

2003-06-09 Thread Webb, Andy
Things that increase the size over raw message byte count:
1. database overhead
2. whitespace - you can see how much in the nightly online maintenance
event log entries.
3. duplication of data - in some cases data exists in both STM and EDB.

Things that reduce the size below raw message byte count:
1. single-instance-storage
2. compression of RTF message bodies in the EDB file



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-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:10 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Priv1.edb and stm
Subject: Priv1.edb and stm


Hi, 
Exch 2k on sbs2k - all SP'd up
I had a little scare earlier on with a simultaneous virus alert on one
user and a disk space warning from my server which turned out to be
totally unconnected however while I was trouble shooting a noticed a
couple of odd things:
1)  disk space on the server was decreasing rapidly from 8gb > 7.5 >
6.5 gb in the space of about 5 mins - anyone experienced this before?  

2)  my priv1.edb is @ 7.2 gb while the stm file was at 2.9gb.  I
looked at my users mailboxes and the total size of their mailboxes was
under 6gb.  Why would the   the two priv files be more than my users
mailboxes if the edb + stm = information store?  I'm probably missing
something here as I'm still pretty new to exch2k?

TIA
Rob

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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Webb, Andy
Indeed.  I forgot about the Recovery Storage Group.  The VSCS will be
nice for some folks too.



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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Subject: Re: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

It's the recovery storage group I like.
And Volume Shadow Copy Service.
Granted I don't need an 8-node cluster
OWA is just fluff.


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From: "Bob Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the
"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the
ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3" 

>From a session at TechEd. 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.
That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
I was told I could choose from Miller Lite or Shiner Bock. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

At MEC I was told that they were already over 100,000 mailboxes on Exchange
2003 in production.

**  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with
Exchange 2003 **
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From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3"

>From a session at TechEd.

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.  That's
almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA
to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or
so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let
everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


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From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Good morning,
>
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and
> Exchange 5.5.
>
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.  I'm evaling 
using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which receives then relays mail 
to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a .net server configured as a standalone.  
I've found no messages in my badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists 
have proved successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people were having 
trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different. All email 
sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail. Anything sent to a 
distribution list from Outlook Express or any other exchange client works fine. It is 
very strange. I contacted GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to 
contact them about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail essentials 
8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed but ends up in the 
badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read 'error is processing file in 
pickup directory', no other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do 
have valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard 
to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is 
beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I 
forgot to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post 
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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