Brick Level Backup
Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Arcserve crash? I don't believe that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Shimmons Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Brick Level Backups, baad.. -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Veritas for one. But if your are doing brick level. You should have a sound reason why. Just don't do it cause it's cool. From: "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:43:22 -0400 Arcserve crash? I don't believe that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Shimmons Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Brick Level Backup
1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
CommVault Galaxy is very promising. Actually they do not do it brick-style. They still backup individual messages, folders, and mailboxes, but they only backup one instance of a message and then they backup the pointers. So when you need to restore a bunch of mailboxes, you won't be inflating the size of your DB by dumping multiple copies of the same message into it. -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I think it was Missy who said its hard to find something that works well when BLB is broken by design. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick Level Backup 1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
You can purchase something like Power Controls which allows you to restore data directly from your backup tapes. You can restore individual mailboxes with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Veritas NetBackup can be fully controlled via CLI. > -Original Message- > From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: Brick Level Backup > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our > development team because > it's the only product they've found that they can properly > interface with > via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still > feel a bit sick > about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. > > We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Arcserve was not my choice. Although the latest version actually runs really well on my payroll server via DAT autoloader. I had been looking at Veritas Backup Exec as most sites seem to be pointing me in that direction. Do I need the exchange agent to perform online backups of is that only needed for BLB? Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Veritas NetBackup can be fully controlled via CLI. > -Original Message- > From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: > Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: Brick Level Backup > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our > development team because > it's the only product they've found that they can properly > interface with > via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still > feel a bit sick > about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. > > We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Yes. You need the agent for any backing up of Exchange -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Arcserve was not my choice. Although the latest version actually runs really well on my payroll server via DAT autoloader. I had been looking at Veritas Backup Exec as most sites seem to be pointing me in that direction. Do I need the exchange agent to perform online backups of is that only needed for BLB? Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Veritas NetBackup can be fully controlled via CLI. > -Original Message- > From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: > Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: Brick Level Backup > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our > development team because > it's the only product they've found that they can properly > interface with > via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still > feel a bit sick > about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. > > We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Saw this on the Exchange Connections 2003 website. http://www.storactive.com/solutions/liveServ/ is this for real? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick Level Backup 1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Tell them to look at Legato Networker. As far as I know, every networker feature can be accessed via command line utilities. Networker can do brick level backups of a limited number of mailboxes. I've never tested it, though. I'll have to say that although Networker can be a royal pain to use, it is stable. Also, getting backups going the way you want can be perplexing, but once Networker says something is backed up, you CAN recover it. As for brick level backups: in general, they are not needed (do a little research and you will find out why). In the rare case where BLB is needed, I've always just used exmerge. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Commvault Galaxy has been doing this for years. This company sounds relatively new. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Saw this on the Exchange Connections 2003 website. http://www.storactive.com/solutions/liveServ/ is this for real? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick Level Backup 1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I use powerquest V2I to do all disk to disk backups with compression. The backups are really fast and all my applications, IE Exchange, SQL do not have a clue they are being backup. So, I do believe this product could work. Eric -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Saw this on the Exchange Connections 2003 website. http://www.storactive.com/solutions/liveServ/ is this for real? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick Level Backup 1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I once lost 2 months worth of data because Legato Networker kept on reporting that everything was backed up successfully. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Tell them to look at Legato Networker. As far as I know, every networker feature can be accessed via command line utilities. Networker can do brick level backups of a limited number of mailboxes. I've never tested it, though. I'll have to say that although Networker can be a royal pain to use, it is stable. Also, getting backups going the way you want can be perplexing, but once Networker says something is backed up, you CAN recover it. As for brick level backups: in general, they are not needed (do a little research and you will find out why). In the rare case where BLB is needed, I've always just used exmerge. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Also Commvault are very serious about their product. They have a few principles that they strictly follow (like they won't do multiplexing of backups because they believe that it will cost you when time comes to do a restore). Also they provide engineers on site and training so that when you are ready to drive you will know what you are doing. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: C. Tuvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Commvault Galaxy has been doing this for years. This company sounds relatively new. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Saw this on the Exchange Connections 2003 website. http://www.storactive.com/solutions/liveServ/ is this for real? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick Level Backup 1. 2. 3. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Shimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
really? i was told that functionality was missing on the restore side. maybe our team only tested backupexec - i'll pass this onto them. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Veritas NetBackup can be fully controlled via CLI. > -Original Message- > From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: Brick Level Backup > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our > development team because > it's the only product they've found that they can properly > interface with > via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still > feel a bit sick > about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. > > We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Isn't the "best brick level backup software" like "try to see the funny side of your
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RE: Brick Level Backup
Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is true. I've never worked with an Exchange system where the mailbox limits were set anywhere near 2GB, so it's never been an issue for me. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
But if you keep on dumping new data into the same PST, eventually it will grow quite large, even if your online mailbox limit is low. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup This is true. I've never worked with an Exchange system where the mailbox limits were set anywhere near 2GB, so it's never been an issue for me. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Everything will fail on a mailbox that's over two gbytes that pushes the data to a pst file. Outlook 11 is supposed to have fixed this, though. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:33 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I don't do that. Here's the basics of what I do: Exmerge (with various command line switches that I'm too lazy to look up right now). Cd \exmergedata Del pst.9.zip Ren pst.8.zip pst.9.zip Ren pst.7.zip pst.8.zip ... Ren pst.zip pst.1.zip Zip -m -9 pst.zip *.pst This is in a batch file that gets run nightly via the scheduler. I keep 10 days of "snapshots" of select mailboxes. Customer is happy, it was easy to script, and it didn't cost anything other than a bit of disk space. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup But if you keep on dumping new data into the same PST, eventually it will grow quite large, even if your online mailbox limit is low. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup This is true. I've never worked with an Exchange system where the mailbox limits were set anywhere near 2GB, so it's never been an issue for me. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Yeah, I do the same for one of my customers. I generate a new .INI file daily that has today's date to start and tomorrow's date to stop. Plus it specifies a different export file directory (e.a. C:\EXMERGEDATA-%MYDATE%). They get daily PST exports. Then I run exmerge -b -f Another customer does not generate enough mail during the course of the day to warrant a new PST every single day, so I do it for them on a monthly basis. The pain comes when they ask me to burn their stuff on CDs for them. :) Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup I don't do that. Here's the basics of what I do: Exmerge (with various command line switches that I'm too lazy to look up right now). Cd \exmergedata Del pst.9.zip Ren pst.8.zip pst.9.zip Ren pst.7.zip pst.8.zip ... Ren pst.zip pst.1.zip Zip -m -9 pst.zip *.pst This is in a batch file that gets run nightly via the scheduler. I keep 10 days of "snapshots" of select mailboxes. Customer is happy, it was easy to script, and it didn't cost anything other than a bit of disk space. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup But if you keep on dumping new data into the same PST, eventually it will grow quite large, even if your online mailbox limit is low. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup This is true. I've never worked with an Exchange system where the mailbox limits were set anywhere near 2GB, so it's never been an issue for me. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I just installed Office 2003 final from MSDN and was able to export my whole mailbox to a PST. It shows up as 1.8Gig on the exchange 5.5 server, and the PST file is 3.5Gig. Tom -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Everything will fail on a mailbox that's over two gbytes that pushes the data to a pst file. Outlook 11 is supposed to have fixed this, though. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:33 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I hope it doesn't get corrupted though... Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup I just installed Office 2003 final from MSDN and was able to export my whole mailbox to a PST. It shows up as 1.8Gig on the exchange 5.5 server, and the PST file is 3.5Gig. Tom -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Everything will fail on a mailbox that's over two gbytes that pushes the data to a pst file. Outlook 11 is supposed to have fixed this, though. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:33 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Yup - PST files will almost always be much larger than the size reported on the Exchange store. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alverson, Tom Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup I just installed Office 2003 final from MSDN and was able to export my whole mailbox to a PST. It shows up as 1.8Gig on the exchange 5.5 server, and the PST file is 3.5Gig. Tom -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Everything will fail on a mailbox that's over two gbytes that pushes the data to a pst file. Outlook 11 is supposed to have fixed this, though. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:33 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I always get "errors" in the exmerge log that I assume were due to antivirus (NAV for exchange 5.5) slowing things down. Do you have to stop AV to run this? Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup I don't do that. Here's the basics of what I do: Exmerge (with various command line switches that I'm too lazy to look up right now). Cd \exmergedata Del pst.9.zip Ren pst.8.zip pst.9.zip Ren pst.7.zip pst.8.zip .. Ren pst.zip pst.1.zip Zip -m -9 pst.zip *.pst This is in a batch file that gets run nightly via the scheduler. I keep 10 days of "snapshots" of select mailboxes. Customer is happy, it was easy to script, and it didn't cost anything other than a bit of disk space. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup But if you keep on dumping new data into the same PST, eventually it will grow quite large, even if your online mailbox limit is low. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup This is true. I've never worked with an Exchange system where the mailbox limits were set anywhere near 2GB, so it's never been an issue for me. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge fails on mailboxes over 2gig... Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Exmerge -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Let's see... Seeing as it took them 4-5 versions of the product to get it "right" - starting back at least at 6.0, that is, I fail to see why they deserve consideration. My experience with ArcServe, which I did use for at least 2 years, is that it does a phenominal job of backing up data. It was batting less than .500 (in other words <50%) on restores, however. And I *never* got a successful Exchange restore without a significant level on intimacy with ESEUtil. I'm also not willing to overlook the fact that they renamed ArcServe to BrightStor simply to con people into thinking it's a different product - there wasn't a massive rebranding campaign due to a company name change. Nope, simply a slimy con job. But that's what I've come to expect from CompAss over the years, which is why I refuse to use or support their products. The collected wisdom of many, many people, is available here: http://www.clarksupport.com/whynotca.htm Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > > Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve > v. 9.01 to > do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The > largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs > and most of > the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job > and I have > done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a > solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad > thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, > but I use > it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. > > > Chris > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
being 200% better than ArcServe 7 is like being taller than the dwarf from the austin
powers films.
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Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup
Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to
do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The
largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of
the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have
done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a
solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad
thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use
it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases.
Chris
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RE: Brick Level Backup
Be sure to tell us how well the restore goes... It's not that we don't like it because it doesn't backup; it has a serious problem with restoring... -Original Message- From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but the setup I use is this: ARCserve machine installed using MSSQL database I backup everything to a SCSI Array (I keep 5 days backup on the array of all servers) Every night I dump everything to tape (LTO 100/200) So I have never had to restore anything from tape. And I also do a full backup of the backup server to tape. So the worst case is I will have to restore the backup server then restore all my other servers once the backup server is up or restore each server individually. You might laugh at this method, but it works. Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Be sure to tell us how well the restore goes... It's not that we don't like it because it doesn't backup; it has a serious problem with restoring... -Original Message- From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I'm not sure whether to laugh or writhe in pain... That solution hurts just reading about it. That's pretty pour to have to protect yourself from your own backup software... ;o) -Original Message- From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but the setup I use is this: ARCserve machine installed using MSSQL database I backup everything to a SCSI Array (I keep 5 days backup on the array of all servers) Every night I dump everything to tape (LTO 100/200) So I have never had to restore anything from tape. And I also do a full backup of the backup server to tape. So the worst case is I will have to restore the backup server then restore all my other servers once the backup server is up or restore each server individually. You might laugh at this method, but it works. Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Be sure to tell us how well the restore goes... It's not that we don't like it because it doesn't backup; it has a serious problem with restoring... -Original Message- From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
Well, truth be told, I don't like the backup part either. When I was forced to use it, the backup throughput was pretty slow. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:17 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Be sure to tell us how well the restore goes... It's not that we don't like it because it doesn't backup; it has a serious problem with restoring... -Original Message- From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve v. 9.01 to do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs and most of the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job and I have done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, but I use it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
I suggest you test a real restore at some point. Even just doing a file restore is not pretty in ArghServ -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:20 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but the setup I use is > this: > > ARCserve machine installed using MSSQL database > I backup everything to a SCSI Array (I keep 5 days backup on the array > of all servers) > Every night I dump everything to tape (LTO 100/200) > > So I have never had to restore anything from tape. And I also > do a full > backup of the backup server to tape. So the worst case is I > will have to > restore the backup server then restore all my other servers once the > backup server is up or restore each server individually. > > You might laugh at this method, but it works. > > > Christopher > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:17 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > Be sure to tell us how well the restore goes... It's not > that we don't > like it because it doesn't backup; it has a serious problem with > restoring... > > -Original Message- > From: Henry, Christopher M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:22 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup > > > Why is everyone against ARCserve? I have been using ARCserve > v. 9.01 to > do brick level backups and I have never have a problem with it. The > largest mailbox that I do a brick level backup on is 729megs > and most of > the mailboxes are over 100megs. I have never had a failed job > and I have > done successful restores. I would have to say the ARCserve 9.01 is a > solid product it is a 200% improvement over ARCserve 7. The only bad > thing I can say is that it is a little on the expensive side, > but I use > it to backup 6 servers and 3 databases. > > > Chris > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
