OOO not going out to the internet
Exchange 5.5,sp4 Outlook xp with sp2 when my users are away, they set ooo for their emailers, however, these ooo messages are only delivered to the local network only. I have tested this by sending an email from my network-outlook account to my yahoo account and no ooo message is delivered. Did another test by sending an email to local Outlook user (within the network) and ooo message is delivered. I had a look onto the IMS setting: by double clicking IMS, Internet Mail, Advanced Options and unticked all the three options 1. Disable Ooo responses to the Internet 2. Disable Automatic replies to the Internet 3. Disable sending Display names to the Internet All are unticked now! (hopefully, no security breach there). After that, restarted IMS service. But nothing is still happening. Experts, is there something i am missing here? Please advise me. Many thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
OOO not working
Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO not working
That article was created for the one person who still runs the license logging service. - Original Message - From: Mark Nold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: RE: OOO not working Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
Just thought I head off anyone trying to help me by suggesting I look there :) -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO not working That article was created for the one person who still runs the license logging service. - Original Message - From: Mark Nold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: RE: OOO not working Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
Try doing this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262352 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
That was certainly a step in the right directionthe check box was cleared (so he was messing with the system...the bastard)...but after checking the box and applying it, it still does not work. I should not have to re-start the Exchange service for that should I? -Original Message- From: Chris Tuvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO not working Try doing this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262352 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
Is the Exchange server you looked at the only one you have? If so, you should re-start the service. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions That was certainly a step in the right directionthe check box was cleared (so he was messing with the system...the bastard)...but after checking the box and applying it, it still does not work. I should not have to re-start the Exchange service for that should I? -Original Message- From: Chris Tuvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO not working Try doing this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262352 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO not working
Yes it's the only onethanks for the advice. I will schedule a restart of the service for off hours. -Original Message- From: Chris Tuvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO not working Is the Exchange server you looked at the only one you have? If so, you should re-start the service. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions That was certainly a step in the right directionthe check box was cleared (so he was messing with the system...the bastard)...but after checking the box and applying it, it still does not work. I should not have to re-start the Exchange service for that should I? -Original Message- From: Chris Tuvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO not working Try doing this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262352 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Forgot to mention that: no I have not reached my CAL's either. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811912 -Original Message- From: Mark Nold Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO not working Forgive if this is a repeat, and yes I know that most don't agree with OOO, BUT, with that said: Ex2000 SP3 Win2k SP3 OL XP SP1 My company allows OOO replies to go to the i-net. All was fine when I went away for an extended vacation. Now upon my return, it appears that no ones OOO works. I have tested against many accounts and I get no replies, internal or external. I have searched TechNet, goggle and only found items relevant to 5.5 and/or alternate recipientsneither of which apply to me users. I have seen before in this list references to not allowing OOO. I'm wondering if my substitute started messing with things, but he swears he did not. Where would I (is there somewhere) look in ESM to allow/disallow OOO globally? I have looked through my event logs and see nothing that is glaring at me...no errors, only information about the cleanup the night before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with OOO messages
Alex, His OOO rule is corrupt, use the admin clean mailbox and enter OOFRULES in the custom clean, (there is a Q article Q223391 which refers to the reverse IE sends every time look for that). Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 August 2003 16:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problem with OOO messages EX 5.5, SP4 - NT4 SP6 Out of office message works for one user but not for at another user. Both users are on the same server, but in different recipient containsers. Any ideas why? Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Exchange Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (gfd) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with OOO messages
EX 5.5, SP4 - NT4 SP6 Out of office message works for one user but not for at another user. Both users are on the same server, but in different recipient containsers. Any ideas why? Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Exchange Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with OOO messages
That problem is usually caused by some sort of hidden rule problem in the mailbox with the OOO problem. The fix is to use Cleansweep to blast all rules in the mailbox. -Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problem with OOO messages EX 5.5, SP4 - NT4 SP6 Out of office message works for one user but not for at another user. Both users are on the same server, but in different recipient containsers. Any ideas why? Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Exchange Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This message is private or privileged. If you are not the person for whom this message is intended, please delete it and notify me immediately, and please do not copy or send this message to anyone else. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO Exchange 2000
Hi, Probably an easy one. Where is the option to allow or deny this OOO in exch 2000. Thx! Byron MarketTools(r) Real Market Research Insights. In Real Time. At Real Savings. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Exchange 2000
Global Settings Internet Message Formats, right-click a domain (probably *) and select Properties Advanced. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Exchange 2000 Hi, Probably an easy one. Where is the option to allow or deny this OOO in exch 2000. Thx! Byron MarketTools(r) Real Market Research Insights. In Real Time. At Real Savings. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
I can second this experience. Despite my recommendations and offer of alternative solutions I was told that my client wanted OOO enabling. The result? Numerous complaints from users experiencing increased levels of spam. (The proposed solution? Anti-Spam software! It's enough to make you weep). Cheers, Nick. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 19:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
No-one has every hacked my employer's website either. I think this demonstrates patching the web server is a waste of time, so I shall stop doing that. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 17:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. AW On Thursday 06 March 2003 12:57 pm, you wrote: No-one has every hacked my employer's website either. I think this demonstrates patching the web server is a waste of time, so I shall stop doing that. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 17:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
-Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 March 2003 12:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. Nor have they proven its never been a factor. In the absense of definitive data in either direction I find that caution is the safest option. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
One can prove that OOO information has been used in social engineering hacks though, so doesn't that make the point moot? On 3/6/03 6:27, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. My users still want to use the OOO's even after I explain about more Spam and the annoyance/inconvenience to the customers, so I can't see them suddenly not using them because of a 1 in a million chance of a social engineering/security problem. Thanks for the opinions. AW On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:06 pm, you wrote: One can prove that OOO information has been used in social engineering hacks though, so doesn't that make the point moot? On 3/6/03 6:27, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
Guess that depends on the business you are in. There's no magic argument which is going to shut down OOO for all businesses, nor (likely) should there be. On 3/6/03 8:20, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. My users still want to use the OOO's even after I explain about more Spam and the annoyance/inconvenience to the customers, so I can't see them suddenly not using them because of a 1 in a million chance of a social engineering/security problem. Thanks for the opinions. AW On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:06 pm, you wrote: One can prove that OOO information has been used in social engineering hacks though, so doesn't that make the point moot? On 3/6/03 6:27, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO web app
Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO web app
OWA allows you to set OOO. Why not just use that? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO web app
That's to easy;-) I am creating an app the will allow me to do many admin functions from one spot and this will be one function as I get many users who forget to turn it on. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO web app OWA allows you to set OOO. Why not just use that? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO web app
Maybe dig into the OWA code and see how it works. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions That's to easy;-) I am creating an app the will allow me to do many admin functions from one spot and this will be one function as I get many users who forget to turn it on. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO web app OWA allows you to set OOO. Why not just use that? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO web app
The ability to set OOO exists in OWA. If you need to separate it from there you could look at the code of the pages in OWA. -Patrick R. Sweeney http://boston.craigslist.org/bos/res/8484283.html - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: OOO web app Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO web app
Programmatically trying to do something in Exchange.. Have you looked at www.cdolive.com? On 3/6/03 8:54, Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO web app
Didn't think about that, but that's definitely the place to start looking. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Programmatically trying to do something in Exchange.. Have you looked at www.cdolive.com? On 3/6/03 8:54, Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to create a web app that you can use to set individual users OOO (exchange 2000)? I cant find the object(If there is one) that points to OOO. I am not a developer by far, but if someone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Of course it your own company's prerogative to determine what is in its own best interests. I presented an argument against; the arguments for are obvious. My employer, which has fairly enlightened IT policies allows Out Of Office to the Internet. Therefore, I personally do not use it! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allison M. Wittstock Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. My users still want to use the OOO's even after I explain about more Spam and the annoyance/inconvenience to the customers, so I can't see them suddenly not using them because of a 1 in a million chance of a social engineering/security problem. Thanks for the opinions. AW On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:06 pm, you wrote: One can prove that OOO information has been used in social engineering hacks though, so doesn't that make the point moot? On 3/6/03 6:27, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites have been hacked in the past, so it makes sense to patch the systems. With the OOO and burglary argument, no one has proven that it has ever occured. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Nope. . . read again - the loop was internal. Auto-replies to the Internet were already disabled. So, that's not really an argument against OOO to the Internet, but it does serve as a reminder that users can still mess you up. Darcy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? This mail loop was again a result of automatic replies/forwards to the internet being enabled. OOO responses alone would not have cause this loop. I can envision several ways in which an OOO loop alone could be created, all of them involved poorly written software and the potential of them actually happening is extremely low. On 3/5/03 13:14, Darcy Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
You've described a problem with Automatic replies/forwards to the internet, not the OOA. One can allow the latter, without the former. On 3/5/03 0:35, Patrick R. Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so here goes my OOO horror story. First off, this is not straight on point because it involved an older Outlook client, Exchange 5.5, and a quick hack for a user that I shouldn't have done -- but I didn't know it at the time. 1. We upgraded to Exchange 5.5 and got some complaints because some folks auto-reply rules weren't working. So I enabled it. 2. We had a consultant leave, and as was normal and expected at this particular firm left him with email and allowed him to set up a rule to auto-forward his email to an outside address, and auto-reply to incoming messages. 3. The consultant in question popped back after a few days later and complained about the format of the forwarded messages, commenting that they were difficult to respond to since they appeared to be from his account. Now a custom recipient would have been perfect for this purpose, but not knowing that, and knowing the Inbox Assistant would forward in the fashion he wanted, I disabled the Rules Wizard in his inbox, and set up an Inbox Assistant rule to auto-reply. 4. We went away for a Holiday weekend, and the holiday in question either fell during the weekend or on a Tuesday, but we had a four day weekend. This was actually some time later, but the user received a message from a subscription service at the beginning of this long weekend informing him of their support constraints around the holiday, and then continuing to do so with every message we sent back. 5. I walked in on day 5, and sat down at my desk to see 8 (I think that was the number) overflow messages from the users mailbox which was well past its limit. I tried to pup up the Exchange Administrator but it just hung and I ran downstairs to pull the network wire. 6. I got there just in time to watch the Exchange Server reboot, and then spend the rest of the day restoring. It was the combination of OOO, and reversion to the older Inbox Assistant that toasted me. The Out of Office Assistant isn't supposed to loop like that. Regardless, someone advocated an approach where an assistant or another employee is assigned as an alternate recipient. I think you are better off to do this for several reasons, including some that benefit the person on vacation. 1. Email is a company resource - if a client uses it to contact you they should get a response. They aren't on vacation, you are. 2. Email is a company resource - if an employee knows that someone else will read his email when he is out, it becomes increasingly likely that he will encourage friends and family to use a personal address for personal business, jokes, and other nonsense. (And no, it isn't an invasion of privacy as far as I'm concerned.) 3. Vacation is time off from work - that is increasingly true if you aren't returning to stale, unanswered messages. The first word on my voicemail when I'm on vacation is STOP -- and they usually do. I do use OOO, typically to provide contact information for my coworkers and boss and intranet and Internet resources for general troubleshooting, and reinforcement that if the sender doesn't forward his message to another resource it will go unanswered until at least the day of my return. (The use of present tense here is to say this is my normal practice. I don't use OOO at all at the moment since I don't have a job.) -Patrick R. Sweeney - Original Message - From: Byron Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content to put into an OOO. No? I do recall your standard disclaimer on this behavioral approach. :) Granted, enforcing that portion of the policy would be a chore. Though someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The more substantial risk IMHO is in Human Engineering exploits of your business. I've certainly gotten more than enough information in OOA responses to attempt such a thing. Snopes underestimates the difficulty of matching names to addresses, especially when working with known domains. (e.g. Dell in Austin or government workers for the City of Detroit) Still, though unlikely to occur we generally don't change our home answering machines to reflect that we are going to be out of town either. On 3/5/03 11:37, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I actually tracked a deadbeat ex-friend down once from the source IP in the header of an email from him. -Patrick R. Sweeney http://boston.craigslist.org/bos/res/8484283.html - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? The more substantial risk IMHO is in Human Engineering exploits of your business. I've certainly gotten more than enough information in OOA responses to attempt such a thing. Snopes underestimates the difficulty of matching names to addresses, especially when working with known domains. (e.g. Dell in Austin or government workers for the City of Detroit) Still, though unlikely to occur we generally don't change our home answering machines to reflect that we are going to be out of town either. On 3/5/03 11:37, Allison M. Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Allison M. Wittstock wrote: Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison It's unlikely that a burglar will notice that you left the front door unlocked if you go away for the weekend. But, it could happen, so why not lock the door? It's unlikely that you'll be pick pocketed in the Paris metro, but it could happen, so why not wear a money belt? Jim Helfer On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This mail loop was again a result of automatic replies/forwards to the internet being enabled. OOO responses alone would not have cause this loop. I can envision several ways in which an OOO loop alone could be created, all of them involved poorly written software and the potential of them actually happening is extremely low. On 3/5/03 13:14, Darcy Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
I'm not sure that 2Gigs is much of a limit is it? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Now that's funny :) Thx for the feedback all! -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our sales weasels couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out of an OOO. Result? We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the Internet. I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's. Loops? Yep - you can still get them. We had an internal one when a user enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his OOO. He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in. Darcy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Mailbox Limits [was Re: OOO...]
I would imagine the limit is there due to the fact that an OST file is the same as a PST file in regards to maximum size. Beyond that, would you really want to have a user synching a 2 GB file over a 56k dial-up line... -- Matt Cross, MOS+FLA SAIC -- Orlando mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Schorr wrote: I'm not sure that 2Gigs is much of a limit is it? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 snipped _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mailbox Limits [was Re: OOO...]
Thanks..that definitely makes more sense :-) -Original Message- From: Matt Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mailbox Limits [was Re: OOO...] I would imagine the limit is there due to the fact that an OST file is the same as a PST file in regards to maximum size. Beyond that, would you really want to have a user synching a 2 GB file over a 56k dial-up line... -- Matt Cross, MOS+FLA SAIC -- Orlando mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Schorr wrote: I'm not sure that 2Gigs is much of a limit is it? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limit you can set on your Private Information store for Send and Send and Receive ? Mine doens't allow anything above 2097151 KB. Any ideas ? Exchange 5.5 SP4 snipped _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Technically, that's a problem with Rules, as opposed to Out of Office, even if the rules are under the Out of Office Wizard. The risks with allowing rules, i.e. automatic replies or forwards to the Internet, as you have described are numerous and dangerous. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick R. Sweeney Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Ok, so here goes my OOO horror story. First off, this is not straight on point because it involved an older Outlook client, Exchange 5.5, and a quick hack for a user that I shouldn't have done -- but I didn't know it at the time. 1. We upgraded to Exchange 5.5 and got some complaints because some folks auto-reply rules weren't working. So I enabled it. 2. We had a consultant leave, and as was normal and expected at this particular firm left him with email and allowed him to set up a rule to auto-forward his email to an outside address, and auto-reply to incoming messages. 3. The consultant in question popped back after a few days later and complained about the format of the forwarded messages, commenting that they were difficult to respond to since they appeared to be from his account. Now a custom recipient would have been perfect for this purpose, but not knowing that, and knowing the Inbox Assistant would forward in the fashion he wanted, I disabled the Rules Wizard in his inbox, and set up an Inbox Assistant rule to auto-reply. 4. We went away for a Holiday weekend, and the holiday in question either fell during the weekend or on a Tuesday, but we had a four day weekend. This was actually some time later, but the user received a message from a subscription service at the beginning of this long weekend informing him of their support constraints around the holiday, and then continuing to do so with every message we sent back. 5. I walked in on day 5, and sat down at my desk to see 8 (I think that was the number) overflow messages from the users mailbox which was well past its limit. I tried to pup up the Exchange Administrator but it just hung and I ran downstairs to pull the network wire. 6. I got there just in time to watch the Exchange Server reboot, and then spend the rest of the day restoring. It was the combination of OOO, and reversion to the older Inbox Assistant that toasted me. The Out of Office Assistant isn't supposed to loop like that. Regardless, someone advocated an approach where an assistant or another employee is assigned as an alternate recipient. I think you are better off to do this for several reasons, including some that benefit the person on vacation. 1. Email is a company resource - if a client uses it to contact you they should get a response. They aren't on vacation, you are. 2. Email is a company resource - if an employee knows that someone else will read his email when he is out, it becomes increasingly likely that he will encourage friends and family to use a personal address for personal business, jokes, and other nonsense. (And no, it isn't an invasion of privacy as far as I'm concerned.) 3. Vacation is time off from work - that is increasingly true if you aren't returning to stale, unanswered messages. The first word on my voicemail when I'm on vacation is STOP -- and they usually do. I do use OOO, typically to provide contact information for my coworkers and boss and intranet and Internet resources for general troubleshooting, and reinforcement that if the sender doesn't forward his message to another resource it will go unanswered until at least the day of my return. (The use of present tense here is to say this is my normal practice. I don't use OOO at all at the moment since I don't have a job.) -Patrick R. Sweeney - Original Message - From: Byron Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content to put into an OOO. No? I do recall your standard disclaimer on this behavioral approach. :) Granted, enforcing that portion of the policy would be a chore. Though someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
I doubt that a burglar would leave a personal message telling the victim how he knew of the absence. I never have claimed that this has happened. But you apply lots of patches to close vulnerabilities that have never been exploited, no? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allison M. Wittstock Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Ed, since you use this example often, can you provide me with some real world examples of someone being burglarized because their OOO message told the world they were away? I think I am more likely to be burglarized by a neighbour that notices I am gone, or someone that sees my postbox has been emptied in days, or someone overhearing me order plane/train tickets, etc. This issue has also been discussed on the urban legend debunking site, Snopes. The link is http://www.snopes.com/crime/intent/reply.htm I look forward to hearing your opinion or some proof of this happening. Cheers, Allison On Wednesday 05 March 2003 02:39 am, you wrote: The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailbox Limits [was Re: OOO...]
Possibly an offshoot of the inability to accurately report mailbox sizes over 2GB in the UI? On 3/5/03 14:24, Matt Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would imagine the limit is there due to the fact that an OST file is the same as a PST file in regards to maximum size. Beyond that, would you really want to have a user synching a 2 GB file over a 56k dial-up line... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO to internet, still bad?
I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's Gold List of valid e-mail addresses. There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do it. Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and will reply when they return. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content to put into an OOO. No? I do recall your standard disclaimer on this behavioral approach. :) Granted, enforcing that portion of the policy would be a chore. Though someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO to internet, still bad?
Ok, so here goes my OOO horror story. First off, this is not straight on point because it involved an older Outlook client, Exchange 5.5, and a quick hack for a user that I shouldn't have done -- but I didn't know it at the time. 1. We upgraded to Exchange 5.5 and got some complaints because some folks auto-reply rules weren't working. So I enabled it. 2. We had a consultant leave, and as was normal and expected at this particular firm left him with email and allowed him to set up a rule to auto-forward his email to an outside address, and auto-reply to incoming messages. 3. The consultant in question popped back after a few days later and complained about the format of the forwarded messages, commenting that they were difficult to respond to since they appeared to be from his account. Now a custom recipient would have been perfect for this purpose, but not knowing that, and knowing the Inbox Assistant would forward in the fashion he wanted, I disabled the Rules Wizard in his inbox, and set up an Inbox Assistant rule to auto-reply. 4. We went away for a Holiday weekend, and the holiday in question either fell during the weekend or on a Tuesday, but we had a four day weekend. This was actually some time later, but the user received a message from a subscription service at the beginning of this long weekend informing him of their support constraints around the holiday, and then continuing to do so with every message we sent back. 5. I walked in on day 5, and sat down at my desk to see 8 (I think that was the number) overflow messages from the users mailbox which was well past its limit. I tried to pup up the Exchange Administrator but it just hung and I ran downstairs to pull the network wire. 6. I got there just in time to watch the Exchange Server reboot, and then spend the rest of the day restoring. It was the combination of OOO, and reversion to the older Inbox Assistant that toasted me. The Out of Office Assistant isn't supposed to loop like that. Regardless, someone advocated an approach where an assistant or another employee is assigned as an alternate recipient. I think you are better off to do this for several reasons, including some that benefit the person on vacation. 1. Email is a company resource - if a client uses it to contact you they should get a response. They aren't on vacation, you are. 2. Email is a company resource - if an employee knows that someone else will read his email when he is out, it becomes increasingly likely that he will encourage friends and family to use a personal address for personal business, jokes, and other nonsense. (And no, it isn't an invasion of privacy as far as I'm concerned.) 3. Vacation is time off from work - that is increasingly true if you aren't returning to stale, unanswered messages. The first word on my voicemail when I'm on vacation is STOP -- and they usually do. I do use OOO, typically to provide contact information for my coworkers and boss and intranet and Internet resources for general troubleshooting, and reinforcement that if the sender doesn't forward his message to another resource it will go unanswered until at least the day of my return. (The use of present tense here is to say this is my normal practice. I don't use OOO at all at the moment since I don't have a job.) -Patrick R. Sweeney - Original Message - From: Byron Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content to put into an OOO. No? I do recall your standard disclaimer on this behavioral approach. :) Granted, enforcing that portion of the policy would be a chore. Though someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide
RE: OOO to internet, still bad?
You're also taking the risk of loosing legit mail when companies start to block unwanted OOO replies on their machines. Our company puts any unwanted OOO sender on our internal blacklist which kills such messages on the incoming SMTP server. Cheers:Siegfried runat=server / -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content to put into an OOO. No? I do recall your standard disclaimer on this behavioral approach. :) Granted, enforcing that portion of the policy would be a chore. Though someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a mail loop with OOO is small. However, consider the following: Byron Kennedy is out of the office vacationing in the south of France until the end of the summer. Please feel free to drop by his house at 123 Any Street, Anytown, USA, and help yourself to whatever is left. If you are a spammer, then you've hit a live mailbox! Tell your friends! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articulate or provide work-arounds? Thx for ideas... byron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Option to send OoO to the internet
You might try turning it on for everybody, then disabling it for the groups you don't want to have it using distribution groups. Just a thought. Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Exchange 2000 Enterprise with SP3) Hi guys, I am trying to enable the Out..office option to the internet for certain Distribution groups in our org. ( not my choice, directive from the directors). I do not want to enable this for everyone so I am not checking the Allow out of office responses in Global Settings. But it does not seem to be working if you just enable OOO using exchange Advanced tab for distribution groups. If I turn on the global setting, it works for everyone, but that is not desirable. Any comments or ideas? Thanks Raj ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Option to send OoO to the internet
Ben, It is not enabled (check box---unchecked) by default for all groups. If OOO is enabled globally,it over-rides all other parameters and is effective for all. Thanks Raj -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Option to send OoO to the internet You might try turning it on for everybody, then disabling it for the groups you don't want to have it using distribution groups. Just a thought. Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Exchange 2000 Enterprise with SP3) Hi guys, I am trying to enable the Out..office option to the internet for certain Distribution groups in our org. ( not my choice, directive from the directors). I do not want to enable this for everyone so I am not checking the Allow out of office responses in Global Settings. But it does not seem to be working if you just enable OOO using exchange Advanced tab for distribution groups. If I turn on the global setting, it works for everyone, but that is not desirable. Any comments or ideas? Thanks Raj ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Option to send OoO to the internet
SOL -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Option to send OoO to the internet Exchange 2000 Enterprise with SP3) Hi guys, I am trying to enable the Out..office option to the internet for certain Distribution groups in our org. ( not my choice, directive from the directors). I do not want to enable this for everyone so I am not checking the Allow out of office responses in Global Settings. But it does not seem to be working if you just enable OOO using exchange Advanced tab for distribution groups. If I turn on the global setting, it works for everyone, but that is not desirable. Any comments or ideas? Thanks Raj ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Option to send OoO to the internet
I believe that OoO responses are an 'All or Nothing' proposition. I don't think you can define some folks to be able to send them and others to *not* be able to send them. In my opinion, OoO responses are bad form as it is and should *never* be sent to the Internet. Mike Strock [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.myhomeoffice.org/ - New pictures of my kids here! -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Option to send OoO to the internet Exchange 2000 Enterprise with SP3) Hi guys, I am trying to enable the Out..office option to the internet for certain Distribution groups in our org. ( not my choice, directive from the directors). I do not want to enable this for everyone so I am not checking the Allow out of office responses in Global Settings. But it does not seem to be working if you just enable OOO using exchange Advanced tab for distribution groups. If I turn on the global setting, it works for everyone, but that is not desirable. Any comments or ideas? Thanks Raj ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .+-¦-xm¶ÿà ,Â)Ür¿ë(º· ýì\ öªÈb½ë!¶Úÿ 0³ §Êþzȱæ«r¬¥:.±Êâm[hæ¯yì\ ©àz[,Ã)ärÅÈZËZvh§+-iÌ2G(
Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
There's a setting on the IMC that will allow you to stop OOO to the Internet, if that is what you mean. Do this: In exchange admin, go to Configuration and open the properties page for your IMC (Internet Mail Connector). On the Internet Mail tab, select advanced options and select Disable Auto-Replies to the Internet and select the option box for Disable Automatic Replies to the Internet to accomodate your forwarding rules. I think this is right Damian Scoles Senior Technical Analyst MCSE+I, CCNP -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
Hope this is good enough http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;176161 Joshua Morgan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
So if i sum up the usual reasons given here, post them on my website etc then they'll accept it but not if i cut and paste the exact same text and mail it? Oh wait.. .gov.. the uk govt don't make sense so why should anyone else's ;-) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 10/02/2003 21:42 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] â²Úh²Ø§PÛiÿü0ÂÌÇ(úÞ²«qïÞÅÈ_j¨m Ü+Þ²m§ÿðà 0Êy ¢oì׬yªÜû j·!jÊS¢éì¹» ®Þ¨¥¶^j÷ÅÈZ¥²Ì2G(L\ ©àx¸¬µ§fyb²Ö)ìÃ)är
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
I appreciate it, but I need something as in a BEST PRACTICE... ie: For stopping looping of messages, security, etc... Basically why would you disable OOO? -Original Message- From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Hope this is good enough http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;176161 Joshua Morgan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
Because you're the Admin and its your Server? Joshua Morgan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I appreciate it, but I need something as in a BEST PRACTICE... ie: For stopping looping of messages, security, etc... Basically why would you disable OOO? -Original Message- From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Hope this is good enough http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;176161 Joshua Morgan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
This has been hashed over a lot here, and my personal opinion is that there's no technical reason to prevent OOA messages from going to the Internet. I've never heard any convincing argument that loops are a problem, and logically they shouldn't be, since OOAs only fire once per sender. If there is a valid concern, it's the old low-tech issue of letting everyone know how long you're going to be away. See this story... http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/burglary021219.html -Peter -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 13:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This message is private or privileged. If you are not the person for whom this message is intended, please delete it and notify me immediately, and please do not copy or send this message to anyone else. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5
I had ours turned off for 3 years because of a looping issue that happened with Automatic Replies to the Internet. Well 4 months ago the powers that be asked that show if OOO will loop or not and I setup several test with outside companies to see if OOO would loop, and it did not. I still did not want to turn it on because of the Spam mail issue. If it is on and you get a SPAM message it is going to send a OOO to the spammer and if the address is valid you have just confirmed your e-mail address and can be guaranteed to receive many more messages. Well they did not care about that so I had to turn it on. But you will not receive a OOO from me because I do not set mine anymore. Too bad for the users that do not know I am on vacation, but I told management I would do this before I turned it on. I wish there was a individual setting that turn it off per mailbox instead of site. I always liked to use OOO for my users to know I was not around. js -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I appreciate it, but I need something as in a BEST PRACTICE... ie: For stopping looping of messages, security, etc... Basically why would you disable OOO? -Original Message- From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Hope this is good enough http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;176161 Joshua Morgan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 I need a website to prove it... They won't take my word for it, or an email. -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Other than the slew that you receive every time you post to the list? :) -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disabling OOO to the internet for Exchange 5.5 Anyone got a couple good links to prove this is a good practice?? Disabling Out of Office that is Thanks in Advance! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO
I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops How about saying that you only send out one OoO message full stop, rather than one per day. If you go away for a fortnight and somebody sends you mail two Mondays in a row, on the first they'll get the OoO message, on the second they won't - and might presume your holiday is over. To get round this the user should have stated when he was back in his OoO message, and should have left another colleague's e-mail address as an alternative. I'd strongly advise getting this made into some sort of corporate policy before you turn OoO to internet on. That way when sales rep X forgets to set this up and loses several valuable customers, the onus of blame is on them, not you. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO
Hi. I don't allow OOO (Out Of the Office) in my ex5.5 environment, to be used to the internet. The issue is that the sales people say this is their way to tell our costumers that they are not available. I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops (Chris - I grabbed it from one of your replied in the news) They say mailbox quote and our strong mail relay will solve issue 3. for reason one, they say that I do leave a message on my cell saying I am on vocation, so why shouldn't I do the same in my email. well, anyway, can any one put a bit of experience reply on this issue? I really feel OOO to the internet is mistake Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO
1. Possibly. 2. Thats debatable. 3. Very low. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:zinnix;bezeqint.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Hi. I don't allow OOO (Out Of the Office) in my ex5.5 environment, to be used to the internet. The issue is that the sales people say this is their way to tell our costumers that they are not available. I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops (Chris - I grabbed it from one of your replied in the news) They say mailbox quote and our strong mail relay will solve issue 3. for reason one, they say that I do leave a message on my cell saying I am on vocation, so why shouldn't I do the same in my email. well, anyway, can any one put a bit of experience reply on this issue? I really feel OOO to the internet is mistake Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO
1+2+3= losing battle -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO 1. Possibly. 2. Thats debatable. 3. Very low. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:zinnix;bezeqint.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Hi. I don't allow OOO (Out Of the Office) in my ex5.5 environment, to be used to the internet. The issue is that the sales people say this is their way to tell our costumers that they are not available. I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops (Chris - I grabbed it from one of your replied in the news) They say mailbox quote and our strong mail relay will solve issue 3. for reason one, they say that I do leave a message on my cell saying I am on vocation, so why shouldn't I do the same in my email. well, anyway, can any one put a bit of experience reply on this issue? I really feel OOO to the internet is mistake Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO
We allow it here. So far, it has not really been an issue. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone;superioraccess.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO 1+2+3= losing battle -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO 1. Possibly. 2. Thats debatable. 3. Very low. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:zinnix;bezeqint.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Hi. I don't allow OOO (Out Of the Office) in my ex5.5 environment, to be used to the internet. The issue is that the sales people say this is their way to tell our costumers that they are not available. I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops (Chris - I grabbed it from one of your replied in the news) They say mailbox quote and our strong mail relay will solve issue 3. for reason one, they say that I do leave a message on my cell saying I am on vocation, so why shouldn't I do the same in my email. well, anyway, can any one put a bit of experience reply on this issue? I really feel OOO to the internet is mistake Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO
Yea. Us too. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO We allow it here. So far, it has not really been an issue. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone;superioraccess.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO 1+2+3= losing battle -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO 1. Possibly. 2. Thats debatable. 3. Very low. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:zinnix;bezeqint.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Hi. I don't allow OOO (Out Of the Office) in my ex5.5 environment, to be used to the internet. The issue is that the sales people say this is their way to tell our costumers that they are not available. I have tried saying: 1. Security risk 2. Bad Netiquitte 3. Risk of mail loops (Chris - I grabbed it from one of your replied in the news) They say mailbox quote and our strong mail relay will solve issue 3. for reason one, they say that I do leave a message on my cell saying I am on vocation, so why shouldn't I do the same in my email. well, anyway, can any one put a bit of experience reply on this issue? I really feel OOO to the internet is mistake Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO Weirdness
I have a strange problem with OOO that started a few months back. Layout is Exchange 5.5sp4 servers (3 in the main site 1 each in 2 other sites). Clients are all Outlook 2K SP1. Single mailbox server, single utility server, single unified messaging server (voicemail). User will setup OOO as they normally would with just the OOO selector set and a simple message typed in with no additional rules. Others notice they are getting duplicate replies when they send to a user with OOO enabled. The replies are not exact duplicates as one message is the correct one and the other seems to be the message from a previous use of OOO. Going into the mailbox as that user shows an additional rule under the OOO assistant and when trying to access the rule it gives the message that the rule contains invalid content, do I want to edit it, editing reveals that it is just an empty rule. Deleting this rule and then exiting out of office fixes the problem. We have had a couple of changes this year prior to this problem including the addition of a new Exchange server (unified messaging) and the removal of the first Exchange server in the site but this problem was not brought to my attention until a couple of months after that. Even stranger, the problem appears to occur throughout the organization including at the other 2 sites. Any suggestions on nailing this down? From what I can tell it only occurs once per user but with vacation season upon us it's becoming a real nuisance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Weirdness
Out of Office data is stored in hidden messages in the user's mailbox. I wonder if your unified messaging package is affecting this configuration. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO Weirdness I have a strange problem with OOO that started a few months back. Layout is Exchange 5.5sp4 servers (3 in the main site 1 each in 2 other sites). Clients are all Outlook 2K SP1. Single mailbox server, single utility server, single unified messaging server (voicemail). User will setup OOO as they normally would with just the OOO selector set and a simple message typed in with no additional rules. Others notice they are getting duplicate replies when they send to a user with OOO enabled. The replies are not exact duplicates as one message is the correct one and the other seems to be the message from a previous use of OOO. Going into the mailbox as that user shows an additional rule under the OOO assistant and when trying to access the rule it gives the message that the rule contains invalid content, do I want to edit it, editing reveals that it is just an empty rule. Deleting this rule and then exiting out of office fixes the problem. We have had a couple of changes this year prior to this problem including the addition of a new Exchange server (unified messaging) and the removal of the first Exchange server in the site but this problem was not brought to my attention until a couple of months after that. Even stranger, the problem appears to occur throughout the organization including at the other 2 sites. Any suggestions on nailing this down? From what I can tell it only occurs once per user but with vacation season upon us it's becoming a real nuisance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unwanted OOO auto replies to the list members
I'm not going to start another discussion about turning OOO replies generally on to the Internet or not [1]. I just got three OOO replies from people I don't know, with instructions to contact people I never heard and I just want to let all list members know that they should not consider me as rude if I refrain from replying to people who ever in their life had OOO to the list turned on. The reason is that the new rule [2] created here will delete such OOO messages and put those people into a killfile to keep all mailboxes in this organization clean of such unwanted garbage. [1] I personally have a list of clients I have turned it on but not generally and I think this is a good policy [2] It is not an Outlook rule per se but just a server-side filter on the originator address Cheers:Siegfried runat=server / _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unwanted OOO auto replies to the list members
and that is totally their loss. -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Unwanted OOO auto replies to the list members I'm not going to start another discussion about turning OOO replies generally on to the Internet or not [1]. I just got three OOO replies from people I don't know, with instructions to contact people I never heard and I just want to let all list members know that they should not consider me as rude if I refrain from replying to people who ever in their life had OOO to the list turned on. The reason is that the new rule [2] created here will delete such OOO messages and put those people into a killfile to keep all mailboxes in this organization clean of such unwanted garbage. [1] I personally have a list of clients I have turned it on but not generally and I think this is a good policy [2] It is not an Outlook rule per se but just a server-side filter on the originator address Cheers:Siegfried runat=server / _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO reply...
My gut response to (b) is always who in their right mind would set up a rule for an OOF , but I have seen it many times , even from people on this list. -Original Message- From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO reply... All, In my experience, there are two ways to set up an OOO reply. (a) Use the 'Out of Office Assistant' - Tools Out of Office Assistant. This will only send one reply per instance of the OOO Assistant per person e-mailing. If you turn it off, then on again, you'll get another message from the OOO person. (b) Use the Rules Wizard - THIS IS DANGEROUS. You can use the rules wizard to set up an out of office like reply, but it doesn't go through the filter that ensures people only get one... thus if you use this and you're on a list (like this), then that's how mail loops happen!!! My $0.02... themolk. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Ouf Of Office I know for sure that they're only *supposed* to reply once per address, but that this can break. Took MS 9 months to fix this one for me -- so caution is best heeded. Missy - Original Message - From: Andersson Mikael (SIX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: Ouf Of Office Does Out Of Office responses to the internet really loop? I believed that OOF only replied once to every mailaddress!? Anyone who knows for sure? /micke _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO reply...
Yeah, I know the difference. I also know that OOF has broken in the past. Q223391 is the resumt of my call to PSS. Missy - Original Message - From: Steve Molkentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: Re: OOO reply... All, In my experience, there are two ways to set up an OOO reply. (a) Use the 'Out of Office Assistant' - Tools Out of Office Assistant. This will only send one reply per instance of the OOO Assistant per person e-mailing. If you turn it off, then on again, you'll get another message from the OOO person. (b) Use the Rules Wizard - THIS IS DANGEROUS. You can use the rules wizard to set up an out of office like reply, but it doesn't go through the filter that ensures people only get one... thus if you use this and you're on a list (like this), then that's how mail loops happen!!! My $0.02... themolk. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Ouf Of Office I know for sure that they're only *supposed* to reply once per address, but that this can break. Took MS 9 months to fix this one for me -- so caution is best heeded. Missy - Original Message - From: Andersson Mikael (SIX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: Ouf Of Office Does Out Of Office responses to the internet really loop? I believed that OOF only replied once to every mailaddress!? Anyone who knows for sure? /micke _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOO reply...
All, In my experience, there are two ways to set up an OOO reply. (a) Use the 'Out of Office Assistant' - Tools Out of Office Assistant. This will only send one reply per instance of the OOO Assistant per person e-mailing. If you turn it off, then on again, you'll get another message from the OOO person. (b) Use the Rules Wizard - THIS IS DANGEROUS. You can use the rules wizard to set up an out of office like reply, but it doesn't go through the filter that ensures people only get one... thus if you use this and you're on a list (like this), then that's how mail loops happen!!! My $0.02... themolk. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Ouf Of Office I know for sure that they're only *supposed* to reply once per address, but that this can break. Took MS 9 months to fix this one for me -- so caution is best heeded. Missy - Original Message - From: Andersson Mikael (SIX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: Ouf Of Office Does Out Of Office responses to the internet really loop? I believed that OOF only replied once to every mailaddress!? Anyone who knows for sure? /micke _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advice on OOO ...
Hi, The CEO of my employer has just left the office and gone overseas for about 12 days. Luckily, he took my advice and enabled his 'Out of Office' assistant which now informs colleagues within the GAL of his whereabouts. Unfortunately, the message one gets back is I will be out of the office until Monday March 11. I can be contacted on my - it seems he isn't very good at it after all !! Being the Exchange Admin. I have his mailbox available in my Outlook session so I can check for important emails (and of course, any good gossip) in his absence. Is there a way I can modify his 'Out of Office' message from my Outlook, or will I have to log into the server under his account and fix it there. Alternatively - and I've just thought of this - good I go in via OWA and do it ? Fingers crossed .. Tim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Advice on OOO ...
Yes to both. Easiest way, creat a profile on your machine for his mailbox. Open this profile up through Outlook and modify his OOO -Original Message- From: Tim John - Domainz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Advice on OOO ... Hi, The CEO of my employer has just left the office and gone overseas for about 12 days. Luckily, he took my advice and enabled his 'Out of Office' assistant which now informs colleagues within the GAL of his whereabouts. Unfortunately, the message one gets back is I will be out of the office until Monday March 11. I can be contacted on my - it seems he isn't very good at it after all !! Being the Exchange Admin. I have his mailbox available in my Outlook session so I can check for important emails (and of course, any good gossip) in his absence. Is there a way I can modify his 'Out of Office' message from my Outlook, or will I have to log into the server under his account and fix it there. Alternatively - and I've just thought of this - good I go in via OWA and do it ? Fingers crossed .. Tim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Advice on OOO ...
Exactly. Be sure to have him send you an email telling you to do this. CYA -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 2:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Advice on OOO ... Yes to both. Easiest way, creat a profile on your machine for his mailbox. Open this profile up through Outlook and modify his OOO -Original Message- From: Tim John - Domainz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Advice on OOO ... Hi, The CEO of my employer has just left the office and gone overseas for about 12 days. Luckily, he took my advice and enabled his 'Out of Office' assistant which now informs colleagues within the GAL of his whereabouts. Unfortunately, the message one gets back is I will be out of the office until Monday March 11. I can be contacted on my - it seems he isn't very good at it after all !! Being the Exchange Admin. I have his mailbox available in my Outlook session so I can check for important emails (and of course, any good gossip) in his absence. Is there a way I can modify his 'Out of Office' message from my Outlook, or will I have to log into the server under his account and fix it there. Alternatively - and I've just thought of this - good I go in via OWA and do it ? Fingers crossed .. Tim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOO Messages
I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
She's so excited she can't type. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
Yep! Got one right here. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
Nah - not excitement. Lack of caffeine. -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages She's so excited she can't type. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOO Messages
If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: OOO Messages
That was a save bet. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual
RE: OOO Messages
Mmmm saved bets -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages That was a save bet. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: OOO Messages
I took your new job into account. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: OOO Messages
Fixing your broke ass s**t? -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: OOO Messages
How sweet of you! :O) d -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages I took your new job into account. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: OOO Messages
Not here so much, just making it better... D -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Fixing your broke ass s**t? -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Are you going to safe it by locking it up in the save? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Oh - very well put! I'm going to safe this for when folks kick and scream when I finally get to turn off OOO throughout my organization (just got approval today!). -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Okay, I'll bite: I'm not in, but you have hit and now verified a live address. Please put me on your A list for resale to other spammers. I'm the president of the company, and obviously wealthy. Since I've just told you I'm away for two weeks, please go to the county tax assessor's web site and look up the location of my residence. Help yourself. Hello customer. I'm not in, and you can try contacting someone else in my firm who wants your business. The onus is, however, all on you, as I'm too lazy to delegate my email to somebody else while away. Please don't go visit our competitor, who is far too professional to send you an ascii answering machine message like this. -Original Message- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OOO Messages Subject: OOO Messages I know this has been done to death, but are there security or other issues (such as creating loops) with turning it on IMS? I couldn't find anything on the archivea list, or maybe I just didn't know where to look. Thanks --Alex Alborzfard Network Errand Boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: OOO Messages
Try more fibre. - Original Message - From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: RE: OOO Messages Not here so much, just making it better... D -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages Fixing your broke ass s**t? -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages If I weren't redesigning networks, I would have beat them all. ;o) D -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages So far I'm two for three on guessing who would be first with the smarta$$ comments about my typo. I thought Martin Blackstone would beat Barry to it. Thanks to Chris and Andy for not letting me down. It's so good to know who you can count on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO Messages lol Clip and Safe this for later... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
