RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
How much space?  If it wasn't a lot, then keep an eye on it because it just
might bounce back up.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Guys,

good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
regained my space back.

thanks for the help

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread Couch, Nate
no prob

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> Guys,
> 
> good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
> regained my space back.
> 
> thanks for the help
> 
> Pat
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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread pat karr
Guys,

good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
regained my space back.

thanks for the help

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-14 Thread pat karr
Nate, Andy, and Ben,

thanks for all of your help concerning this issue.  I finally received a
1221 message from the server at 6 pm last night.  It told me I have 6509
Megabytes of space free.  Very cool.  I will be doing another eseutil /d
/priv over the weekend and another backup.

Once again THANKS for all of your help.

I'm learning eventhough I've been running this thing for 5 years or so.

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Thanks Ben.  So far the only 1221's that are showing up are the one's for
the MSExchangePub but none for the MSExchange Private.  Will it show some
type of progress message?  All I keep seeing are the messages relating
deleting messages and attachments.

what do you think?

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Ben Winzenz
It will show the 1221 event for the Private IS once it is done.  Once
you see that message, then you can run eseutil again. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
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From: pat karr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:12 PM
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Subject: RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging


Andy,

I went into the IS Maintenance and did what was requested. I also went
and set the deleted file retention to "0" and removed the check box that
relates to keeping the message until a backup is done.

In the app log I see a bunch of 1003 and 1006 messages stating that
messages and attachments are being cleaned by the background cleaning
sessions.  I have only seen 3 1221's and they deal with the
MSExchangePublic.  When should I see the one for MSExchangePriv?

When will the private store size reflect the change?  After the
background cleaning session has done its job or after I run another
eseutil /d /ispriv?

thanks,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Andy,

I went into the IS Maintenance and did what was requested. I also went and
set the deleted file retention to "0" and removed the check box that
relates to keeping the message until a backup is done.

In the app log I see a bunch of 1003 and 1006 messages stating that
messages and attachments are being cleaned by the background cleaning
sessions.  I have only seen 3 1221's and they deal with the
MSExchangePublic.  When should I see the one for MSExchangePriv?

When will the private store size reflect the change?  After the background
cleaning session has done its job or after I run another eseutil /d
/ispriv?

thanks,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Ben Winzenz
Yes, but only if you ran it AFTER online maintenance purged the deleted
items.  Eseutil only purges the whitespace, which only gets created by
online maintenance.  Do what Andy suggested, and set maintenance to run
always, wait a while and check event 1221 to see how much whitespace you
have.  You can then run eseutil again to recover that whitespace. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


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I ran the util with the /d command switch.  Was this correct?

pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
I ran the util with the /d command switch.  Was this correct?

pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread David, Andy
Set the Deleted Item Retention time for messages to 0 and IS maintenance to
"always" and let that puppy run for awhile. Also, check the 1221 events in
the app log and see how much space has been freed up. The 1221's will give
you the min amount you can reclaim after defragging with eseutil again. 
And of course, take another backup *after* you run eseutil  :)




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Subject: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging


Hi all,

I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it reached
it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It was
explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone know
why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I cleared?

best regards,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Couch, Nate
My first question is on the second ESEUTIL run di you run a defrag or did
you run some other switch with it?  If you did not run a second defrag after
you cleaned out the accounts then that is your issue.  MS Exchange does
defrag automatically, but it does not compress automatically.  In order to
recoup the space you cleaned up you must run the ESEUTIL with the defrag
switch.

Nate Couch
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> From: pat karr
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  exchange 5.5 private stores and purging
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it
> reached it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
> Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
> contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
> resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
> PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It
> was explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
> Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
>  I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
> Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone
> know why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I
> cleared?
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Pat
> 
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exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Hi all,

I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it
reached it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It
was explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
 I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone
know why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I
cleared?

best regards,

Pat

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