date:20011115

RE: Exmerge problems

2001-11-15 Thread Hakan Bulin


Hi Kevin,

Some answers for your questions!

1. Outlook 2000 is installed, have tried both swedish and english version.
2. Exmerge version is 4.00.021
3. Exmerge is running on w2k sp2 box with exchange 5.5 sp4 installed.

What do you mean by pst-provider? 

Regards

//Hakan






 Hakan,
 
 A few questions:
 
 1) Do you have Outlook installed on the PC you are running ExMerge on? 
 2) Which version of ExMerge is it?
 3) Where are you running ExMerge from - NT W/S, NT Server, Exchange Server?
 
 
 On first parse, this looks like an error to do with the PST Provider not
 being installed (properly).
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hakan Bulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 14:04
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Exmerge problems
 
 
 Hi, 
 I've this weird error when trying to use exmerge for backup purposes.
 Hope anyone could help me. 
 I've copied the log file so all can see what is wrong! 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 //Hakan Bulin
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Microsoft Exchange Mailbox Merge Program, v4.00.021
 Start Logging:November 08, 2001   10:49:47
 
 [10:49:47] Logging Level: None
 [10:49:47] Reading settings from file 'C:\exchsrvr\bin\EXMERGE.INI'.
 [10:49:47] Error parsing DN '' (CADRoutines::GetExchange5xServerNameInfo)
 [10:49:47] 'ALBAN' is running Exchange Server 5.x
 [10:49:47] Source server read from settings file is 'ALBAN'.
 [10:49:47] Reading list of subjects for messages to be selected from file
 ''
 [10:49:47] Reading list of attachment names for messages to be selected
 from file ''
 [10:49:47] List of folders to be ignored has been read. 0 folders in the
 list.
 [10:49:47] Current machine locale ID is 0x41d
 [10:49:47] 0x4e4 is not a supported locale. Using current machine default
 locale (0x41d).
 [10:49:47] Operating System Version 5.0 (Build 2195)
 [10:49:47] Incorrect registry value data type for
 'Software\Microsoft\Exchange\Setup\ExchangeServerAdmin'.
 [10:50:06] Error parsing DN '' (CADRoutines::GetExchange5xServerNameInfo)
 [10:50:06] 'ALBAN' is running Exchange Server 5.x
 [10:50:22] Program settings successfully saved.
 [10:50:23] Using attribute 'PR_MESSAGE_DELIVERY_TIME' for date operations.
 [10:50:23] Merging data into target store. The program will copy only
 those messages that do not exist in the target store.
 [10:50:23] Associated folder data will NOT be copied to the target store.
 [10:50:23] Using 'Swedish' (0x41d) as the default locale (Code page 1252)
 [10:50:23] All mailboxes will be processed, regardless of locale
 [10:50:23] Initializing worker thread (Thread0)
 [10:50:23] Copying data from mailbox '1a01' ('ADMINISTRATOR') on Server
 'ALBAN' to file 'C:\EXMERGEDATA\ADMINISTRATOR.PST'.
 [10:50:23] Store 'MSPST MS' was not opened.
 [10:50:23] Errors encountered. Copy process aborted for mailbox '1a01'
 ('ADMINISTRATOR').
 [10:50:23] Number of items copied from the source store for all mailboxes
 processed: 0
 [10:50:23] Total number of folders processed in the source store: 0
 [10:50:23] 0 mailboxes successfully processed. 1 mailboxes were not
 successfully processed. 0 non-fatal errors encountered.
 [10:50:23] Process completion time: 00:00:00 
 
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RE: Exmerge problems

2001-11-15 Thread Hakan Bulin


Hi,

I've created the folder and there no special rights for c:\exmergedata.
I'm using an admin account so...And yes there are free space.
Have tested on only one mailbox to see how it works!

Regards

//Hakan






 Have you created C:\EXMERGEDATA folder?
 Exmerge User has rights to this folder?
 There is free space on drive C:?
 
 Rafael
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Hakan Bulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:04 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  Exmerge problems
 
 Hi,=20
 I've this weird error when trying to use exmerge for backup purposes.
 Hope anyone could help me.=20
 I've copied the log file so all can see what is wrong!=20
 Thanks in advance.
 
 //Hakan Bulin
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Microsoft Exchange Mailbox Merge Program, v4.00.021
 Start Logging:November 08, 2001   10:49:47
 
 [10:49:47] Logging Level: None
 [10:49:47] Reading settings from file 'C:\exchsrvr\bin\EXMERGE.INI'.
 [10:49:47] Error parsing DN ''
 (CADRoutines::GetExchange5xServerNameInfo)
 [10:49:47] 'ALBAN' is running Exchange Server 5.x
 [10:49:47] Source server read from settings file is 'ALBAN'.
 [10:49:47] Reading list of subjects for messages to be selected from
 file
 ''
 [10:49:47] Reading list of attachment names for messages to be selected
 from file ''
 [10:49:47] List of folders to be ignored has been read. 0 folders in the
 list.
 [10:49:47] Current machine locale ID is 0x41d
 [10:49:47] 0x4e4 is not a supported locale. Using current machine
 default
 locale (0x41d).
 [10:49:47] Operating System Version 5.0 (Build 2195)
 [10:49:47] Incorrect registry value data type for
 'Software\Microsoft\Exchange\Setup\ExchangeServerAdmin'.
 [10:50:06] Error parsing DN ''
 (CADRoutines::GetExchange5xServerNameInfo)
 [10:50:06] 'ALBAN' is running Exchange Server 5.x
 [10:50:22] Program settings successfully saved.
 [10:50:23] Using attribute 'PR_MESSAGE_DELIVERY_TIME' for date
 operations.
 [10:50:23] Merging data into target store. The program will copy only
 those messages that do not exist in the target store.
 [10:50:23] Associated folder data will NOT be copied to the target
 store.
 [10:50:23] Using 'Swedish' (0x41d) as the default locale (Code page
 1252)
 [10:50:23] All mailboxes will be processed, regardless of locale
 [10:50:23] Initializing worker thread (Thread0)
 [10:50:23] Copying data from mailbox '1a01' ('ADMINISTRATOR') on Server
 'ALBAN' to file 'C:\EXMERGEDATA\ADMINISTRATOR.PST'.
 [10:50:23] Store 'MSPST MS' was not opened.
 [10:50:23] Errors encountered. Copy process aborted for mailbox '1a01'
 ('ADMINISTRATOR').
 [10:50:23] Number of items copied from the source store for all
 mailboxes
 processed: 0
 [10:50:23] Total number of folders processed in the source store: 0
 [10:50:23] 0 mailboxes successfully processed. 1 mailboxes were not
 successfully processed. 0 non-fatal errors encountered.
 [10:50:23] Process completion time: 00:00:00=20
 
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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)


Errr.. MS only started in the email business because of a little product
called Network Courier! Most people didn't trust that when it started and
CCMail was the product of choice for most businesses. The tables can turn
and it depends on how badly Oracle (or whoever) wants that business.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: m2web [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 21:08
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Exchange


Ellison must take a tour of Compaq and see how they have on the average 2500
users per their exchange.
We as the second largest . have on the average 1900 users per exchange
server and the only time that they anyone has been down was because of HD
failure. However we have Oracle consultants every week working on our 6.4
Tetra Byte database which keeps crashing.
Would one really trust a company that has just started into email business?

- Original Message -
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange


 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Lefkovics, William wrote:
  3) They both will require competent administrators to function well

   I've found *anything* requires a competent administrator to function
well.

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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)


Now you're talking - I qualify!!! Where can I fill in an application form??

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 17:55
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange


More:

4) Bill Gates and Larry Ellison both wash floors for a living.
5) They're both swell lookers.
6) Neither one of them is Chinese.

 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:02 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange
 
 
 I found some similarities:
 
 1) They both cost more than sendmail
 2) Neither will run on Novell
 3) They both will require competent administrators to function well
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Exchange
 
 
 
 Maybe I am missing something but how are 9i and
 exchange alike one is an email system and the other is
 a database. How are you going to cannect 9i as a smtp
 gateway.
 Chris
 --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm not usually a big defender of Microsoft, but I
  thought this article was
  a little off-base.  Ellison claims that an Exchange
  Server can only handle
  250-500 Outlook users.  Seems like a lot of his
  numbers are exaggerated to
  me.  Thought others might find this interesting if
  you haven't already read
  it.
  
 
 http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1884%2526a%253D18330,00.asp
 
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RE: Outlook Profile after Move server wizard

2001-11-15 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)


What do you mean by caches the information store?? If you update the
profile in the right places (and that's why you need to use a
program/script), you shouldn't see a problem. There is a small problem with
Contacts displayed as an Address Book which I'm working on but apart from
that, I don't see any problems.

I guess there might be problems with Public Folders if they are not
replicated/instantiated on the new server.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 17:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook Profile after Move server wizard


Have you experienced any problems with just updating the profile as opposed
to creating a new one. I have seen a few articles that suggest the profile
caches the information store and can thus cause problems public folders.

Any comments

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 17:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook Profile after Move server wizard


Yes, you are correct. Simply speaking, when you do a Move Mailbox the DN
does not get changed, only the Home-MDB (and Home-MTA)(before anyone says
anything, yes I know other things get changed but these are the significant
elements for a profile). You might like to check out my website which offers
createprf.exe which has the facility to update a profile from one server to
another.

Kevin
www.mailsoftware.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 16:28
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook Profile after Move server wizard


Hope someone can clear something up. If you use Move server wizard to move a
server out of a site into a new site but in the same organisation, will
Outlook get redirected? My understanding is that it will not Outlook MAPI
only gets redirected to servers in the same site, i.e. it works for move
mailbox. Is my understanding correct?

Thanks,

Paul

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Public Folder as an email recipient

2001-11-15 Thread Rajagopal, Sriram


Hi,

I wuld like to know how to setup the public folder as a email recipient in
exchange5.5...is ther any other way other than creating a folder in the
container and having the mail id for that folder configured to rec.
mails.Can we create a mailbox directly in the public folder??


Ram.

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Palm syncing and Deleted item retention

2001-11-15 Thread Bendall, Paul


Does anyone know how the Chapura Pocket Mirror synchsonises between Outlook
and Palm PDA? A user has managed to incorrectly synchronise the Palm and
wipe out 2,000 contacts from his Outlook and Palm. I have looked in deleted
items, and delted item recovery tool with the administrator registry
addition to show items in the Contacts folder. The client was Outlook 2000
so the Contacts if hard deleted should still be visible but they are not.
Does pocket mirror use it's own MAPI commands and this explains why the
items are not available under deleted item retention. 

Regards, 

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RE: NTDSNoMatch and Migrating

2001-11-15 Thread Simon Taylor


Hi Bonnie
I have just completed this migration myself and have had a few small
hitches. One or two of the mailboxes  I had to migrate would not move at
all (I was moving to new hardware), some of the mailboxes also caused
the info store on the new server to die during migration (a bit of an
issue if you plan to migrate in working hours). I fixed these easily by
running eseutil on the old info store first to fix integrity. Other than
that if you follow the document from MS on migration it should go just
fine. (If it is a big site and you have the hardware available then I
would do this all in a lab first as it is much easier the second time
around)
To answer your questions (or try at least)
1. When migrating old mailboxes which are used by people other that the
name of the mailbox the ADC does create a disabled account (if you
choose to) and then it also assigns the correct permissions to those
mailboxes for the previous owner accounts.
2. I am pretty sure that it will pick up the new DN and not worry too
much about the aliases - I would sort these out anyway in the quest for
a nice tidy Exchange server, but that's just me grin
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 November 2001 17:43
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: NTDSNoMatch and Migrating


Doing some cleanup work to prep for E2k migration (on a new win2k
server) and I'm trying to understand something to hopefully get it right
the first time.

I've used NTDSAtrb to create csv files of the duplcate primary
accounts on our EX 5.5 sp3 server (single server, single site).  I've
not reimported any csv data yet to populate Extension-Attribute-10.
Haven't installed/run ADC, ForestPrep, nor DomainPrep yet.

Questions:  

1)  If I choose to import to populate the NTDSNoMatch value, I think
I
know that ADC will create disabled (if I choose) user accounts in AD for
these mailboxes when the ADC agreement is set up and the ADC will
re-assign the primary account to the new account.  But, will it also
correctly re-assign the previous primary account as an owner on the
Ex5.5 mailbox, or is this something I have to do manually?  Are any
delegate permissions affected?  And, if permissions are correctly
reassigned, do these permission stick when the mailbox is moved to the
E2k server?  If it doesn't do some of these things, seems like it would
make sense for me to do these manually ahead of time as there are less
than 20.

2)  I've noticed that quite a few of our EX5.5 Directory Name
values
don't match the Alias Name and/or Primary Account name due to renames,
from long ago.  When the ADC looks to sync up, does it look at the DN,
or does it use the account name (or alias name)?  I think it would use
the account name, but our previous EX5.5 admin thinks the different DNs
could be a problem and that we might need to export to pst and reimport
to a new mailbox for every account that is off so that the new DN
matches somehow to AD.

Thanks,
Bonnie M.

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RE: Block an Exchange administrator from viewing a mailbox?

2001-11-15 Thread Simon Taylor


Hi Bob
Generally most organisations will frown upon the admins having user
access to all mailboxes, but how would they know to start with grin -
what you should do is assign Permissions admin on the mailbox container
and not user permissions then you will both be able to admin mailboxes,
but not read through all of each others mail
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 November 2001 18:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Block an Exchange administrator from viewing a mailbox?


Exchange 5.5(sp4) on W2K(SP2)member server.

I have co-worker who must be able to administer the Exchange server
(Full
control) when I am unavailable.  We have an agreement that we will not
view each other's mail, however, I would prefer it if we could alter
permissions on just our mailboxes so that he cannot see mine, and
vice-versa.  Logic (and my basic knowledge of Exchange) tells me this
cannot be done, but I wanted to ask the group if there were any options.

Thanks for your input

Bob Fronk, MCSE 
Information Technology
Davis H. Elliot Company, Inc
2176 Lee Highway
Cloverdale, VA  24077
 
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Security issue in Exchange 2000

2001-11-15 Thread Bob ten Berge


Hi all,

We got a strange problem here, this is what happens:
When a normal user in our Exchange environment creates a new profile in
his Outlook2000 client, his name and exchange server get underlined,
meaning they are both validated; now when that person tries to add
additional mailboxes to the profile, an error message pops up right away
when clicking on the Add Mailbox button stating that the user cannot be
found.
Now we remove the profile from Outlook, I make that person a Domain Admin
and he makes a new profile in Outlook 100% similar to the previous
profile. But now when he hits the Add Mailbox everything works the way it
should, i can even remove him from the Domain Admins group, it keeps
working.
When i make this person member of the group Administrators this does NOT
work. So obviously we're dealing with a faulty security setting or police
here.
Ofcourse this solution is only temporary, on the Exchange2000 server
something must be incorrect, I just don't know where to look anymore. I
tried changing security settings on several objects within Exchange System
Manager but i couldn't find anything there.
Maybe i'm looking at the wrong picture here, but I was/am looking for some
object that has different rights for Administrators and Domain Admins, if
there is anybody out there that has a clue about what i am talking about,
please help me!!

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RE: logging out of OWA?

2001-11-15 Thread Simon Taylor

Title: Message



Hey 
Albert
This 
is a stab in the dark, but what if you disable integrated Windows Authentication 
on your webserver - haven't tried it yet, but it would make 
sense.
Cheers
Simon

  
  -Original Message-From: Albert Vasquez 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 
  22:05To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: logging 
  out of OWA?
  Vikas,
  Thank you for your feed back it is much appreciated 
  .
  However what I am interested in is manually logging 
  off ofOWA andwould like to disable the "feature" that allows 
  anyone other than the intended personto open the mail box from a 
  browser.
  
  i.e 
  If user1 is logged onto her machine and steps away for a second (yep, I know) 
  and user2 happens over to check his email and he punches in https://exchsrvr1/exchange and "viola" 
  up comes user1's mail box.
  
  How 
  can this be stopped?
  
  thanks again
  AlV
  
-Original Message-From: Vikas Kanodia 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:44 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: logging out 
of OWA?
Dear, 
U can access owa by specifing the username , e.g vikas is 
the name of the mailbox  owa is installed on gnspl-exch m/c , so type 
this is the i.e-
//gnspl-exch/exchnage/vikas 
u'll get the username  password 
Vikas 
-Original Message- From: 
Albert Vasquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: logging 
out of OWA? 
All, Does anyone know if there is a 
way to manually log off of the Web access for 
Exchange 2000? It seems to pull the cached account 
information from the host that is making the 
connection and open that users mailbox. I understand this is 
how it functions but can this be disabled? 
Info: E2k running on W2k 
SSL is in use 
I am sure you'll let me know if more information is required 
to help resolve this problem ;) 
TIA AlV 
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RE: Long Delays between send and receive

2001-11-15 Thread Dave Pollak


the delayed messages come from the same two senders. according to the
recipient, the delays are intermittent. however, that assertion may be an
artifact since only some of the messages are time sensitive and past
messages have been deleted so I can't check. delays on non-time sensitive
messages may not be not be noticed. testing to my internet mail account and
to these two senders reveals no delays today. as with so many problems they
don't occur when i'm watching. is there an incoming que? does the event log
show connections made to smtp servers only on outgoing mail?

dave

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Long Delays between send and receive


are the messages that she complains about always from the same person?
there is
a whole lot to email that isn't controlled by the recipient...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
One kind word can warm three winter months.  Chinese proverb

-Original Message-
From: Dave Pollak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Long Delays between send and receive


Hello,

I'm a very very very part-time Exchange 5.5 administrator. One of my users
complains periodically that emails sent to her have very long delays between
the send time and receipt - 5 to 7 hours in some cases (confirmed by
comparing send and received times). She assures me that the problem is here
and she uses Outlook everyday so she must be correct. Anyway, she gets other
messages during the delay from other senders. I see no errors in Event
Viewer @ various logging levels and i can see when a connection is made to
the remote smtp server. There are  no messages waiting here. I don't notice
any long delays elsewhere and messages sent to and from  my hotmail account
take minutes. It seems to me that the delays are consistently with the same
senders but I can't confirm that  I don't know where to begin
troubleshooting this problem. Have read the O'Reilly Exchange Admin book
from cover to cover (well, a couple of chapters anyway) and have poked about
through the MS knowledge base. Did I mention that I'm a part-time Exchange
Administrator i.e.  know nothing?

Dave Pollak
Information Systems Specialist
Town of Bedford
603.472.5242
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RE: Security issue in Exchange 2000

2001-11-15 Thread Simon Taylor

Hi Bob
Shouldn't you be looking at the permissions on the individual Exchange
mailboxes - you can find this in active directory if you look at
advanced features

-Original Message-
From: Bob ten Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 15 November 2001 12:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Security issue in Exchange 2000

Hi all,

We got a strange problem here, this is what happens:
When a normal user in our Exchange environment creates a new profile in
his Outlook2000 client, his name and exchange server get underlined,
meaning they are both validated; now when that person tries to add
additional mailboxes to the profile, an error message pops up right away
when clicking on the Add Mailbox button stating that the user cannot be
found. Now we remove the profile from Outlook, I make that person a
Domain Admin and he makes a new profile in Outlook 100% similar to the
previous profile. But now when he hits the Add Mailbox everything works
the way it should, i can even remove him from the Domain Admins group,
it keeps working. When i make this person member of the group
Administrators this does NOT work. So obviously we're dealing with a
faulty security setting or police here. Ofcourse this solution is only
temporary, on the Exchange2000 server something must be incorrect, I
just don't know where to look anymore. I tried changing security
settings on several objects within Exchange System Manager but i
couldn't find anything there. Maybe i'm looking at the wrong picture
here, but I was/am looking for some object that has different rights for
Administrators and Domain Admins, if there is anybody out there that has
a clue about what i am talking about, please help me!!

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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Allen Crawford

Title: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange





I'm guessing he's never lost any data.


-Original Message-
From:  Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange


How do you know the data loss is 0%? Just wondering.


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange



So you should.


As a small shop using Oracle and Exchange, we'll watch it too.


We're stcuk on Oracle8i for now. It has the same dataloss as Exchange - 0%.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange



We are an Oracle shop and an Exchange shop. I can tell you that I will
trade Exchange database with an Oracle database any day of the week! 
I'm not sure of the exact statistics that were quoted by Ellison , but I can
tell you that the Oracle 9i database does have 0% data loss. In a
non-clustered environment, as long as the hard drives are intact (and in
some cases you don't even need all the drives!) you can recover the database
and perform functions directly on the database. Let me see you do that with
priv.edb. As exchange admins we all use tools that use Microsoft's APIs and
scripting tools to interface with Microsoft's exchange database. It would
be very nice to have competitive third party tools (like website tools) that
can directly interface with the database.
On the cost benefit side, I could pay a single enterprise license fee for
the Oracle database instead of CALS. A large company could easily have over
a $100,000.00 just in CALS.
Obviously, this will probably not appeal to the smaller shops out there, but
for some of us that already use Oracle, I can tell you we will be watching
this development.



Jim Sullivan
One Call Medical, Inc.




-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Exchange




Maybe I am missing something but how are 9i and
exchange alike one is an email system and the other is
a database. How are you going to cannect 9i as a smtp
gateway.
Chris
--- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not usually a big defender of Microsoft, but I
 thought this article was
 a little off-base. Ellison claims that an Exchange
 Server can only handle
 250-500 Outlook users. Seems like a lot of his
 numbers are exaggerated to
 me. Thought others might find this interesting if
 you haven't already read
 it.
 

http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1884%2526a%253D18330,00.asp

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Anybody have docs on MS UpdateFB utility?

2001-11-15 Thread Kopec, David

Title: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange



Anybody have docs on MS 
"UpdateFB" utility? We are scheduled 
to use this this weekendafter we use Guidgen to rebuild the system 
folders. Anyone had good/bad experiences with this? 
Tips?


David 
Kopec? Electronic Messaging Specialist
Technology Services 
 Solutions
MFS ?Email: 
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MS UpdateFB utility

2001-11-15 Thread Kopec, David


Anybody have docs on MS UpdateFB utility?   We are scheduled to use this
this weekend after we use Guidgen to rebuild the system folders.  Anyone had
good/bad experiences with this?  Tips? 



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Exhcnage Site Connectors

2001-11-15 Thread Stuart Swift


I have a small question that i thought you might be able to answer or
advise on, using Exchange 5.5 i want to connect to another Exchange server
on a different IP range in a different domain eg
 
NTSERVER3 - 192.168.2.13 - MEDIASTERLING
COMMS_SERVER - 192.168.1.13 - STERLING
 
I know you can use site connectors, now i am not sure if it is possible
just to use a site connector or do i have to setup a RAS connector as they
are on different IP ranges ?
 
Thought you might have some suggestions or knbow of a good resource that i
use to answer the question. Any information would be wonderful

Thank you for your time.

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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Ellery July

Title: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

And
how would you know that. If email data is lost between the IMC and the mailbox
how would you know?

-Original Message- From:
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Oracle vs. Exchange
So you should.
As a small shop using Oracle and Exchange, we'll watch it
too.
We're stcuk on Oracle8i for now. It has the same
dataloss as Exchange - 0%.
-Original Message- From: Jim
Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Oracle vs. Exchange
We are an Oracle shop and an Exchange shop. I can tell
you that I will trade Exchange database with an Oracle
database any day of the week! I'm not sure of
the exact statistics that were quoted by Ellison , but I can tell you that the Oracle 9i database does have 0% data loss. In
a non-clustered environment, as long as the hard
drives are intact (and in some cases you don't even
need all the drives!) you can recover the database and
perform functions directly on the database. Let me see you do that
with priv.edb. As exchange admins we all use
tools that use Microsoft's APIs and scripting tools to
interface with Microsoft's exchange database. It would be very nice to have competitive third party tools (like website tools)
that can directly interface with the database.
On the cost benefit side, I could pay a single enterprise
license fee for the Oracle database instead of
CALS. A large company could easily have over a
$100,000.00 just in CALS. Obviously, this will
probably not appeal to the smaller shops out there, but for some of us that already use Oracle, I can tell you we will be
watching this development.
Jim Sullivan One Call Medical,
Inc.
-Original Message- From: Chris
Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re:
Oracle vs. Exchange
Maybe I am missing something but how are 9i and
exchange alike one is an email system and the other is
a database. How are you going to cannect 9i as a smtp
gateway. Chris --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not usually a big defender of Microsoft, but I
thought this article was a
little off-base. Ellison claims that an Exchange Server can only handle 250-500
Outlook users. Seems like a lot of his
numbers are exaggerated to me. Thought
others might find this interesting if you haven't
already read it.
http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1884%2526a%253D18330,00.asp
http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1884%2526a%253D18330,00.asp
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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Neil Hobson

By monitoring the MTS-IN folder.  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 November 2001 14:31
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Oracle vs. Exchange
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

And how would you know that. If email data is lost between the IMC and
the mailbox how would you know? 
-Original Message-
From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

I'm guessing he's never lost any data. 
 -Original Message- 
From:   Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:47 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject:RE: Oracle vs. Exchange 
How do you know the data loss is 0%? Just wondering. 
-Original Message- 
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:16 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange 

So you should. 
As a small shop using Oracle and Exchange, we'll watch it too. 
We're stcuk on Oracle8i for now.  It has the same dataloss as Exchange -
0%. 
-Original Message- 
From: Jim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:02 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange 

We are an Oracle shop and an Exchange shop.  I can tell you that I will 
trade Exchange database with an Oracle database any day of the week!  
I'm not sure of the exact statistics that were quoted by Ellison , but I
can 
tell you that the Oracle 9i database does have 0% data loss.  In a 
non-clustered environment, as long as the hard drives are intact (and in

some cases you don't even need all the drives!) you can recover the
database 
and perform functions directly on the database.  Let me see you do that
with 
priv.edb.  As exchange admins we all use tools that use Microsoft's APIs
and 
scripting tools to interface with Microsoft's exchange database.  It
would 
be very nice to have competitive third party tools (like website tools)
that 
can directly interface with the database. 
On the cost benefit side, I could pay a single enterprise license fee
for 
the Oracle database instead of CALS.  A large company could easily have
over 
a $100,000.00 just in CALS. 
Obviously, this will probably not appeal to the smaller shops out there,
but 
for some of us that already use Oracle, I can tell you we will be
watching 
this development. 

Jim Sullivan 
One Call Medical, Inc. 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:32 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Exchange 

Maybe I am missing something but how are 9i and 
exchange alike one is an email system and the other is 
a database. How are you going to cannect 9i as a smtp 
gateway. 
Chris 
--- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I'm not usually a big defender of Microsoft, but I 
 thought this article was 
 a little off-base.  Ellison claims that an Exchange 
 Server can only handle 
 250-500 Outlook users.  Seems like a lot of his 
 numbers are exaggerated to 
 me.  Thought others might find this interesting if 
 you haven't already read 
 it. 

http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1884%2526a%253D18330,00.asp 

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RE: Long Delays between send and receive

2001-11-15 Thread Ellery July


If mail is stuck in the queue them it only shows up if it is stuck. You can
turn up the event log to log every mail entering and when it happens again
you can filter the log based on the domain name/tcp/ipaddress. You can see
when it got to your exchange box.

This is what I call a whiffer. The issue just whiffs by or is intermittent
and spending time trying to run it down is exhausting. That is when  I turn
up the event log or monitoring and see if it happens again. 90% of the time
it does not happen again. When it does happen again better information is
provided.

ellery

-Original Message-
From: Dave Pollak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Long Delays between send and receive


the delayed messages come from the same two senders. according to the
recipient, the delays are intermittent. however, that assertion may be an
artifact since only some of the messages are time sensitive and past
messages have been deleted so I can't check. delays on non-time sensitive
messages may not be not be noticed. testing to my internet mail account and
to these two senders reveals no delays today. as with so many problems they
don't occur when i'm watching. is there an incoming que? does the event log
show connections made to smtp servers only on outgoing mail?

dave

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Long Delays between send and receive


are the messages that she complains about always from the same person?
there is
a whole lot to email that isn't controlled by the recipient...

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Pollak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Long Delays between send and receive


Hello,

I'm a very very very part-time Exchange 5.5 administrator. One of my users
complains periodically that emails sent to her have very long delays between
the send time and receipt - 5 to 7 hours in some cases (confirmed by
comparing send and received times). She assures me that the problem is here
and she uses Outlook everyday so she must be correct. Anyway, she gets other
messages during the delay from other senders. I see no errors in Event
Viewer @ various logging levels and i can see when a connection is made to
the remote smtp server. There are  no messages waiting here. I don't notice
any long delays elsewhere and messages sent to and from  my hotmail account
take minutes. It seems to me that the delays are consistently with the same
senders but I can't confirm that  I don't know where to begin
troubleshooting this problem. Have read the O'Reilly Exchange Admin book
from cover to cover (well, a couple of chapters anyway) and have poked about
through the MS knowledge base. Did I mention that I'm a part-time Exchange
Administrator i.e.  know nothing?

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Information Systems Specialist
Town of Bedford
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RE: Oracle vs. Exchange

2001-11-15 Thread Simon Taylor

Title: Message



if we 
didn't know then would we necessarily care ;)

  
  -Original Message-From: Ellery July 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 14:31To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Oracle vs. 
  Exchange
  And 
  how would you know that. If email data is lost between the IMC and the mailbox 
  how would you know? 
  
-Original Message-From: Allen Crawford 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 
7:59 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Oracle 
vs. Exchange
I'm guessing he's never lost any data. 
-Original Message- From:  Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:47 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: 
Oracle vs. Exchange 
How do you know the data loss is 0%? Just wondering. 

-Original Message- From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:16 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Oracle vs. Exchange 
So you should. 
As a small shop using Oracle and Exchange, we'll watch it 
too. 
We're stcuk on Oracle8i for now. It has the same 
dataloss as Exchange - 0%. 
-Original Message- From: Jim 
Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
Oracle vs. Exchange 
We are an Oracle shop and an Exchange shop. I can tell 
you that I will trade Exchange database with an 
Oracle database any day of the week! I'm not 
sure of the exact statistics that were quoted by Ellison , but I can 
tell you that the Oracle 9i database does have 0% data 
loss. In a non-clustered environment, as long 
as the hard drives are intact (and in some cases you 
don't even need all the drives!) you can recover the database 
and perform functions directly on the database. Let 
me see you do that with priv.edb. As exchange 
admins we all use tools that use Microsoft's APIs and scripting tools to interface with Microsoft's exchange 
database. It would be very nice to have 
competitive third party tools (like website tools) that can directly interface with the database. On 
the cost benefit side, I could pay a single enterprise license fee 
for the Oracle database instead of CALS. A 
large company could easily have over a $100,000.00 
just in CALS. Obviously, this will probably not 
appeal to the smaller shops out there, but for some 
of us that already use Oracle, I can tell you we will be watching 
this development. 
Jim Sullivan One Call Medical, 
Inc. 
-Original Message- From: 
Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:32 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Exchange 
Maybe I am missing something but how are 9i and 
exchange alike one is an email system and the other 
is a database. How are you going to cannect 9i as a 
smtp gateway. Chris 
--- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:  I'm not usually a big defender of 
Microsoft, but I  thought this article 
was  a little off-base. Ellison claims 
that an Exchange  Server can only handle 
 250-500 Outlook users. Seems like a lot of 
his  numbers are exaggerated to  me. Thought others might find this interesting if 
 you haven't already read  
it.   
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looking for hardware

2001-11-15 Thread Kim Schotanus


I'm shopping for a new server for exch2000. 
Any best bets?

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