Exchange 2007 Rules
I tried to setup a rule for one of our mailboxes that auto-replied to every email sent to it, something like Thank you for contacting the complaint department, we really care, blah blah blah. However, it appears to only work internally. I think there's a setting somewhere on Exchange 2007 that says...Do not auto-forward outside the company. Is it possible to turn this option off on an individual mailbox basis, or is it an all or nothing thing? Thanks. Rob
Exchange Design Recomendation
We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company's admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company's Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn't be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege.
Re: Retrivein old e-mails mentioning a specific user Exchange 2007
HI there, Thanks for the info. I have informed the client, and we are awaiting word from their solictors to see what the next step is. Graeme 2009/10/23 James Wells jam...@gmail.com I'd recommend calling a forensic service (I almost always use Iron Mountain). Given enough of your config information, they can restore tapes much faster than you can, and feed them into a discovery engine, exporting only the emails you need to PST. They can also sign off on chain of custody, secure transport, etc if required --James On 10/23/09, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: yes, you can do that. i am, in fact, doing that for a number of my own customers right now. you work out a rhythm after a while... From: Graeme Carstairs [loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Retrivein old e-mails mentioning a specific user Exchange 2007 Hi All, One of our customers has just found out why we recommended and quoted them an e-mail archival system. One of their employees has left and has since started proceedings for constructive dismissal. HIs lawyer requested copies of every e-mail that mentions his name, and the client passed the request to the users who would have been cited as being involved 1st. They retrieved all the e-mails they could and they were passed to his lawyer. Of course you can all guess what happened next, he claims that he knows for a fact there were other e-mails sent by these people that mentioned him, that haven't bee passed on and therefore these people have deliberately deleted them so as to avoid incriminating themselves. So now we get called in to see what we can do for them. They have a single mailbox server Exchange 2007 setup, and it is backed up fully to tape every night, they keep there weekly tapes for a year and there monthly tapes indefinitely. My thinking is to do this in a way that would be seen as safe, would be to setup a lab with a DC and and exchange server restored form the original site backups, and then go back to the 1st tape available after the start date that the e-mail is requested from, (it is looking like 8 months) then restoring the AD, and then the Exchange databases. I am not sure if we can then force the undeletion of all deleted items, and then search the store for all mails with his name in the subject, to, from, cc, bcc and message body fields. Moving that into an archive PST file, and then lather rinse repeat for each and every tape. Putting the files onto a USB HDD and giving it to the lawyer. Is this a workable solution, or does anyone have any better ideas. Of course once completed the e-mail archiver quote is getting reissued immediately. TIA Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! Ted Turnerhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html - Sports is like a war without the killing. -- Sent from my mobile device -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! Ogden Nash http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/o/ogden_nash.html - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat.
Auto-Discovery Service Not Working
My laptop is currently in a workgroup setting. When I try and setup my Outlook 2007 client the auto discovery service seems to fail and I can only setup the profile manually. Anyone have any idea as to what might be preventing the AD service from working properly? Thank you, John Bowles
RE: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working
Does your domain restrict anonymous access? From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working My laptop is currently in a workgroup setting. When I try and setup my Outlook 2007 client the auto discovery service seems to fail and I can only setup the profile manually. Anyone have any idea as to what might be preventing the AD service from working properly? Thank you, John Bowles ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
Re: Exchange Design Recomendation
What kind of management is required on the Exchange servers is required by the admins in the sister company? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.com wrote: We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company’s admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company’s Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn’t be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege.
Exchange 2007 SP2
I know SP2 has been out for a while, is there any reason not to upgrade? Looks like I need to expand the schema first! ___ Stefan Jafs
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Weird problem
I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
RE: Exchange Design Recomendation
For the most part, we want them to be able to fully admin their exchange servers. I think we want them to be able to manage their servers but make sure they can't screw up the entire org. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Design Recomendation What kind of management is required on the Exchange servers is required by the admins in the sister company? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.commailto:shay.m...@absg.com wrote: We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company's admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company's Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn't be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege.
RE: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working
If you are in a workgroup, then you are not authenticated . CFee From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working My laptop is currently in a workgroup setting. When I try and setup my Outlook 2007 client the auto discovery service seems to fail and I can only setup the profile manually. Anyone have any idea as to what might be preventing the AD service from working properly? Thank you, John Bowles
Re: Exchange Design Recomendation
But what does fully admin mean to you? Is it create and manage users? Do you want them creating transport rules? Do you just want them to be able start and stop services? What is it you want them to have the ability to do? I work with around 20 IT staff that have the ability to manage?admin exchange in a way that fits within the organizations needs. Do they have full, carte blanche access? Nope, not in a million years. But they have a level of admin access that they feel is full admin access to them... On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.com wrote: For the most part, we want them to be able to fully admin their exchange servers. I think we want them to be able to manage their servers but make sure they can’t screw up the entire org. *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:23 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Design Recomendation What kind of management is required on the Exchange servers is required by the admins in the sister company? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.com wrote: We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company’s admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company’s Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn’t be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege.
RE: Weird problem
Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
RE: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working
I can't remember off the top of my head. But is anonymouse auth a default setting in GPO? Cause that would make a world of sense if it is. I guess I need to configure Outlook Anywhere if I want these features and not access it via TCP/IP. John Bowles From: Carol Fee [c...@massbar.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working If you are in a workgroup, then you are not authenticated . CFee From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working My laptop is currently in a workgroup setting. When I try and setup my Outlook 2007 client the auto discovery service seems to fail and I can only setup the profile manually. Anyone have any idea as to what might be preventing the AD service from working properly? Thank you, John Bowles
Re: Weird problem
Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - - Proposed: - ---- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
RE: Exchange 2007 SP2
the schema expansion has been the #1 blocker for sp2 deployments. there are no new issues that i am aware of introduced by sp2. the world-wide interwebs have been very quiet on that front... From: Stefan Jafs [sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 SP2 I know SP2 has been out for a while, is there any reason not to upgrade? Looks like I need to expand the schema first! ___ Stefan Jafs
RE: Weird problem
If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
RE: Exchange 2007 Rules
you have to allow auto replies on the send connector. Kevinm | WLKMMAS | This message is Certified Swine Flu Free | http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 Rules I tried to setup a rule for one of our mailboxes that auto-replied to every email sent to it, something like Thank you for contacting the complaint department, we really care, blah blah blah. However, it appears to only work internally. I think there's a setting somewhere on Exchange 2007 that says...Do not auto-forward outside the company. Is it possible to turn this option off on an individual mailbox basis, or is it an all or nothing thing? Thanks. Rob
Re: Weird problem
Thanks Jason. I would love to get rid of OL Express but it is a Legacy thing. I have promoted this beast because of my fears of viruses in the past. Now I have been so convincing that nobody will allow me to change their stance on internal mail and external mail. -- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
Re: Weird problem
:) Do viruses spread slower because they are attached to an email in a POP mailbox vs passing through an Exchange server? I agree with Jason, you paid for the IronPort to scan your incoming mail, get rid of the OE client and simplify. When no new mail shows up in their OE mailbox, but appears in Outlok, they'll be pleasantly pleased. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:21 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: Thanks Jason. I would love to get rid of OL Express but it is a Legacy thing. I have promoted this beast because of my fears of viruses in the past. Now I have been so convincing that nobody will allow me to change their stance on internal mail and external mail. -- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement to keep the two clients but send all the smtp and receive all the pop mail through the ironport. If that means relaying off of the exchange that is fine or not even using it is also fine. Does anyone know of away to do this?
RE: Weird problem
Ditto! From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Weird problem :) Do viruses spread slower because they are attached to an email in a POP mailbox vs passing through an Exchange server? I agree with Jason, you paid for the IronPort to scan your incoming mail, get rid of the OE client and simplify. When no new mail shows up in their OE mailbox, but appears in Outlok, they'll be pleasantly pleased. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:21 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.commailto:dav...@imcu.com wrote: Thanks Jason. I would love to get rid of OL Express but it is a Legacy thing. I have promoted this beast because of my fears of viruses in the past. Now I have been so convincing that nobody will allow me to change their stance on internal mail and external mail. -- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.commailto:jasongu...@npumail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.commailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.comhttp://pop.imcu.com/ and smtp.imcu.comhttp://smtp.imcu.com/ point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.commailto:c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.commailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.nethttp://mailanyone.net/. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.comhttp://pop.imcu.com/ and smtp.imcu.comhttp://smtp.imcu.com/. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport
RE: Exchange 2007 Rules
That is an org level setting on the properties of the entries on the Remote Domains tab. It can be allowed for specific external domains or all domains but I am not aware of a way to allow it only for an individual sender to many domains. -Original Message- From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 Rules I tried to setup a rule for one of our mailboxes that auto-replied to every email sent to it, something like Thank you for contacting the complaint department, we really care, blah blah blah. However, it appears to only work internally. I think there's a setting somewhere on Exchange 2007 that says...Do not auto-forward outside the company. Is it possible to turn this option off on an individual mailbox basis, or is it an all or nothing thing? Thanks. Rob
Re: Weird problem
But right now they are breaking the law and have the email segregated. Internal only in Outlook and external only in OE. They are happy that way. From: Eric Woodford Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Weird problem :) Do viruses spread slower because they are attached to an email in a POP mailbox vs passing through an Exchange server? I agree with Jason, you paid for the IronPort to scan your incoming mail, get rid of the OE client and simplify. When no new mail shows up in their OE mailbox, but appears in Outlok, they'll be pleasantly pleased. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:21 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Thanks Jason. I would love to get rid of OL Express but it is a Legacy thing. I have promoted this beast because of my fears of viruses in the past. Now I have been so convincing that nobody will allow me to change their stance on internal mail and external mail. -- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external
Re: Auto-Discovery Service Not Working
AD service? That would only be applicable if your system belonged to a domain - for which you don't appear to be. You should be able to set up a mail profile manually, and supply credentials that you can also save. -- ME2 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:51 AM, John Bowles john.bow...@wlkmmas.orgwrote: My laptop is currently in a workgroup setting. When I try and setup my Outlook 2007 client the auto discovery service seems to fail and I can only setup the profile manually. Anyone have any idea as to what might be preventing the AD service from working properly? Thank you, John Bowles
Re: Weird problem
I want to so bad. From: Tom Cass Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Weird problem Ditto! From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Weird problem :) Do viruses spread slower because they are attached to an email in a POP mailbox vs passing through an Exchange server? I agree with Jason, you paid for the IronPort to scan your incoming mail, get rid of the OE client and simplify. When no new mail shows up in their OE mailbox, but appears in Outlok, they'll be pleasantly pleased. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:21 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Thanks Jason. I would love to get rid of OL Express but it is a Legacy thing. I have promoted this beast because of my fears of viruses in the past. Now I have been so convincing that nobody will allow me to change their stance on internal mail and external mail. -- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem If you already have an email server (Exchange) and all the other necessary items why not simplify and just (get rid of Outlook Express): Public IP Private IP Internet--ASA--Ironport--Exchange--Outlook ^^ || Mail Gateway -+| (DNS MX record)| | Mail Relay + Am I missing something? the ASA will do PAT of port 25 to/from the Ironport (so public MX record actually points to ASA public IP). Best practice would be to have the ASA block port 25 to and from anything other than the Ironport (clients should not ever send directly to the Internet); Exchange box will use Ironport as the smarthost. Configure the Ironport to LDAP lookups against a domain controller to avoid delivery to non-existent users. If you really want to retain OL Express, enable POP/IMAP and point your OL Express at the Exchange box. At any rate, the Ironport is an smtp relay only; you cannot enable a client access protocol such as POP or IMAP on it. Your Co. is paying a lot of money for the Ironport; utilize the support resources to help you get the configuration done right. There are many small details involved, but thankfully most only have to be dealt with once, when it's first set up. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: David McSpadden Subject: Re: Weird problem Would I set my internal dns to have pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com point to the smtp relay of the ironport? That way when the outlook express accounts resolved their addresses they would be forced to come through the ironport? I can set up the ASA to funnel all port 25 and port 110 traffic to go through the ironport? Current: - --- -- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Outlook Express\ - --- -- Proposed: - --- -- --- --- / Internet E-Mail\-/ASA FireWall\---/Ironport\---/Outlook Express\ - --- - - -- From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Weird problem Usually, anti-spam devices that sit on the network edge talk SMTP, not POP, for inbound mail delivery. Check your Ironport spec sheet to be sure, or look in the configuration menus for setting up POP mail retrieval, and if you don't find that capability, you can't get there from here. Carl -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Weird problem I have Exchange 2003. We use it for internal email only. We connect to it using Outlook 2003. I have a mail provider, mailanyone.net. We use it for external email only. We connect to it using Outlook Express, pop.imcu.com and smtp.imcu.com. I have an ironport that sits on the edge of my network. Currently if I set up an smtp address in Outlook 2003 I can get my email sent out the ironport device from exchange. I can not get any mail into exchange through the ironport. I have a requirement
RE: Exchange 2007 Rules
Yeah, if you want it for only one user/many domains, you are going to need to create a transport rule, not a mailbox rule (and without checking, I can't remember in exchange 2007 whether that might need to be an Edge rule instead of a Hub rule - in exchange 2010, the Hub can do them all). From: Dahl, Peter [peter.d...@yum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 Rules That is an org level setting on the properties of the entries on the Remote Domains tab. It can be allowed for specific external domains or all domains but I am not aware of a way to allow it only for an individual sender to many domains. -Original Message- From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 Rules I tried to setup a rule for one of our mailboxes that auto-replied to every email sent to it, something like Thank you for contacting the complaint department, we really care, blah blah blah. However, it appears to only work internally. I think there's a setting somewhere on Exchange 2007 that says...Do not auto-forward outside the company. Is it possible to turn this option off on an individual mailbox basis, or is it an all or nothing thing? Thanks. Rob
RE: Exchange Design Recomendation
That doesn't require a subdomain. It simply requires that you put a particular user as a local administrator on the Exchange server and delegate them permissions for a particular OU full of users. Really, truly, there are rarely reasons for subdomains anymore. From: Mayo, Shay [shay.m...@absg.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Design Recomendation For the most part, we want them to be able to fully admin their exchange servers. I think we want them to be able to manage their servers but make sure they can’t screw up the entire org. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Design Recomendation What kind of management is required on the Exchange servers is required by the admins in the sister company? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.commailto:shay.m...@absg.com wrote: We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company’s admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company’s Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn’t be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege.
Re: Exchange Design Recomendation
Exactly On 10/27/09, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: That doesn't require a subdomain. It simply requires that you put a particular user as a local administrator on the Exchange server and delegate them permissions for a particular OU full of users. Really, truly, there are rarely reasons for subdomains anymore. From: Mayo, Shay [shay.m...@absg.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Design Recomendation For the most part, we want them to be able to fully admin their exchange servers. I think we want them to be able to manage their servers but make sure they can’t screw up the entire org. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Design Recomendation What kind of management is required on the Exchange servers is required by the admins in the sister company? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Mayo, Shay shay.m...@absg.commailto:shay.m...@absg.com wrote: We are about to merge our 2000 user sister company into our Active Directory. We have always had a single domain architecture and now are wanting to move to a multidomain architecture so the sister company’s admins can still manage their resources. So I am looking for design ideas. I think the best approach would be to install all of the exchange servers in the same domain and delegate administration to certain Exchange servers to the sister company admins, but I have to present other approaches such as installing the sister company’s Exchange servers in their sub domain and discuss why this would or wouldn’t be a good idea. So if anyone has any input or can point me to a good article, it would be greatly appreciated! This will be all Exchange 2007 servers. Shay CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This electronic mail transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately return it to the sender, delete it and destroy it without reading it. Unintended transmission shall not constitute the waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. -- Sent from my mobile device
IMCEAEX
We've recently migrated a bunch of users from an SBS system on to our Exchange 2007 system. The users had previously existed as contacts in Exchange. We deleted the contacts and created new users. Everything works great except for the expected errors from cached internal Outlook addresses. Here's an example: Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists: Gene Snitkermailto:imceaex-_o%3dwright%2b20business%2b20graphics_ou%3dwrightbg_cn%3drecipients_cn%3dgenesnit...@wrightbg.com The recipient's e-mail address was not found in the recipient's e-mail system. Microsoft Exchange will not try to redeliver this message for you. Please check the e-mail address and try resending this message, or provide the following diagnostic text to your system administrator. Sent by Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 When I've had occasional problems like this before, I've added an X500 address. In this case, I added: o=wright+20business+20graphics_ou=wrightbg_cn=recipients_cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.commailto:o=wright+20business+20graphics_ou=wrightbg_cn=recipients_cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.com Email is still bouncing with the same NDR. Do I have the format wrong, or is something else going on? Steve
RE: IMCEAEX
First, this can take up to 2 hours to take effect. Second, the last cn should be cn=GeneSnitker, not cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.commailto:cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.com. From: Steve Hart [sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: IMCEAEX We've recently migrated a bunch of users from an SBS system on to our Exchange 2007 system. The users had previously existed as contacts in Exchange. We deleted the contacts and created new users. Everything works great except for the expected errors from cached internal Outlook addresses. Here's an example: Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists: Gene Snitkermailto:imceaex-_o%3dwright%2b20business%2b20graphics_ou%3dwrightbg_cn%3drecipients_cn%3dgenesnit...@wrightbg.com The recipient's e-mail address was not found in the recipient's e-mail system. Microsoft Exchange will not try to redeliver this message for you. Please check the e-mail address and try resending this message, or provide the following diagnostic text to your system administrator. Sent by Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 When I've had occasional problems like this before, I've added an X500 address. In this case, I added: o=wright+20business+20graphics_ou=wrightbg_cn=recipients_cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.commailto:o=wright+20business+20graphics_ou=wrightbg_cn=recipients_cn=genesnit...@wrightbg.com Email is still bouncing with the same NDR. Do I have the format wrong, or is something else going on? Steve
RE: Exchange 2007 SP2
We did, no problems here. -Andy From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 SP2 I know SP2 has been out for a while, is there any reason not to upgrade? Looks like I need to expand the schema first! ___ Stefan Jafs ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply **
