R: SBS 2008 SP2, PSS Disaster and on 18 hrs with 5 hrs of sleep the night before
Nowadays imaging software is a must when applying everything, even if instructed by MS ! GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Inviato: giovedì 1 aprile 2010 13.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: SBS 2008 SP2, PSS Disaster and on 18 hrs with 5 hrs of sleep the night before I feel your pain...I once spent 33 hours over three days on the phone with PSS. I had a DC/Exchange box go down and it took that long to get everything back to normal after initial instructions from them screwed things up royally. Get some rest! Bill Lambert Concuity Phone 847-941-9206 The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: SBS 2008 SP2, PSS Disaster and on 18 hrs with 5 hrs of sleep the night before Welcome back to the land of the living. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 22:01, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote: Well God is smiling down on me. Reset the perms and everything powered up perfectly. Not ideal, but at least I know if there is an install problem in the future I can track it down using Proc Explorer. Heck, everything is even running quite a bit faster. Off to test the workstations and then go eat my now very cold dinner. From: Greg Sweers Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: SBS 2008 SP2, PSS Disaster and on 18 hrs with 5 hrs of sleep the night before Anyone know a way to revert HKCR on an SBS 2008 server to what its supposed to be. Whatever PSS did, it reset the perms on just about everything to Authenticated Users and Creator Owner with Read. Running the RU9.. Whipped out process explorer and exempted everything but deny errors. Started the install and for about 30 mins jumped to each registry key to manually take ownership and inherit permissions. That's after setting the top level manually but not resetting inheritance. Then I get to an area that virtually every key is wrong for like 200 down, and many of them don't have anything to do with Exchange. SubinACL is not supported for 2008, PSS...yep called them back...said that may have happened as a result of what we did, but it wasn't intentional.. Do you have a backup??? Might be dangerous and just reset the inheritance at the top and see what happens. Trusted installer and several others that are owners shouldn't be affected. Cant be any worse than what it is now. Probably going to exmerge the Exchange data, copy the files and rebuild a new SBS box and move everything back in.. Joy.. Rejoin computers to new domain.. Move favorites, reimport..Good thing I started another SBS install at 4pm when I saw this thing getting bad.. Greg
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Re: SUING IPHONE TO CONNECT TO EXCHANGE SERVER 2003
Yeah I was searching for something else on the list and the SUING in the subject intrigued me...;) On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Catching up a little late:) -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: SUING IPHONE TO CONNECT TO EXCHANGE SERVER 2003 Ditto on this. And by the way, the deployment of these configurations are 100 million times easier on a Mac. I manage two iPhones in our environment and tried numerous ways to do this. I was a little annoyed at how much easier it was through the Macbook using the iPhone Configuration Utility. On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: When I started getting users with those things I used the Enterprise Deployment Tool and created .mobileconfig files that are hosted on a web site. These have the self signed cert and per user config in them, so simple from user perspective; they browse to a url and it sets it all up. http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ I hate to admit it (trust me, I really do) but I couldn't make the windows mobile cab files work, but this worked trivially.
drive space mystery
I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com.image001.png
RE: drive space mystery
Google spacemonger.exe and run it. It will show you what is eating your space. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
RE: drive space mystery
Where are your transaction logs? There's a Logs drive there, but there doesn't seem to be anything on it. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such [cid:image001.png@01CAD239.B91413B0] The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** inline: image001.png
RE: drive space mystery
Double check where your logs are *really* going … unless you just finished an exchange aware backup that cleared your logs, I’d expect way more than .3 gb of log files even if your store is *only* 142gb Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db’s are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
R: drive space mystery
Probably logs file are going to G: (and not shrinked by backup exchange aware) GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Inviato: venerdì 2 aprile 2010 14.43 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
RE: drive space mystery
Or windirstat. Is spacemonger new? I've never tried that one. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: drive space mystery Google spacemonger.exe and run it. It will show you what is eating your space. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such [cid:image001.png@01CAD242.D5648690] The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. inline: image001.png
R: drive space mystery
Or CrystalDiskInfo GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Inviato: venerdì 2 aprile 2010 15.00 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: drive space mystery Or windirstat. Is spacemonger new? I've never tried that one. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: drive space mystery Google spacemonger.exe and run it. It will show you what is eating your space. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
drive space mystery Solved
The engineers that built the server turned on shadow copy. Not sure why you need that on exchange but I turned it off. Drive back up. I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com.image001.png
RE: drive space mystery
Not new, been around since 2000. I'm using the 1.4.0 version which is free. Looks like newer versions aren't. From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: drive space mystery Or windirstat. Is spacemonger new? I've never tried that one. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: drive space mystery Google spacemonger.exe and run it. It will show you what is eating your space. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
[ot] A day late...a friday funny
Who needs an iPad? http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/31/introducing-the-do-it-yourself-crunchpad-kit-video/ Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com
Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting with Dell server hardware and Equalogic storage. The more I get to play with the EQL unit and realize it's capabilities, the more I think this is the future of our storage needs. The scalability of the EQL is probably the most appealing, but I also like the fact that they bundle other capabilities such as replication, automatic storage tiering, etc. without nickle and diming you like other storage vendors do for those same capabilities. I highly recommend you give it a close look if you're looking at a new product. I keep hearing that iSCSI is the storage protocol of the future and the fiber channel, though it will be around for many many years, is slowly dying. If you don't already have an established fiber channel environment, and you're used to iSCSI, you may find it to be a lot more appealing and easier on the wallet. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: I/we hate them. Or I should say the horrible Replication Manager backup software. Moving to a new architecture soon. Clrion, fibrechannel with flash drives (which won't help us when we move from 2003 probably in a year or two, but that is another story) Using EMC's Recoverpoint ( http://www.emc.com/products/detail/software/recoverpoint.htm) Anyone aware of it? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: I have to admit, I shuddered a little bit when I read you're using the Celerra. We have a couple of NS502G as iSCSI gateways to our Clariions. I've never really liked them, but I guess my complaints have more to do with the cludgy interface than anything else. We only use them to serve up iSCSI luns to a few Microsoft Virtual Server hosts for test/dev and to provide non-critical CIFS. Good to hear you're seeing positive results. Thanks for sharing. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:08 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: We have 9000+ mailboxes on 2 backend servers, fronted by 2 FE servers. Storage is EMC Celerra, iSCSI (soon to be fiberchannel). No performance problems whatsoever! On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: If/when I need additional hardware to boost performance, I'll have no problem getting it. This statement came from a manager of a non-technical department who believes he can do a better job than all of our existing Analysts. I'm sure it sounds like I'm taking it a bit personally, and I may be, but this is just a case where I know our current environment is over-sized, and I've got the performance metrics to prove it. This is an Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 environment, 2003 AD. Each server is a PowerEdge M710, 6GB RAM (limited via boot.ini due to 32-bit), 4 local 15k sas drives (RAID 1 OS, RAID 1 page file/temp directories). QLogic 2572 HBAs connected to Brocade 5300 Fiber switches (4gbps) to an EMC CX700. Logs are stored on a 4 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, Stores are on a 14 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, SMTP, message tracking, mta directories are on a RAID 1 (15k FC). A third front-end server provides ActiveSync. Disk I/O has always been our biggest battle and based on our user I/O, the above configuration has yielded very good results. Although we do have about 2000 mailboxes, only 1200-1300 of those are ever accessed concurrently, so with that we're barey above this 500 mailbox limitation he came up with. I guess a lot of this stems from this particular manager having a reputation of trying make others look bad in these high-profile meetings. My boss(es) are taking this more personally than I am. Anyway, thanks for the information thus far. I'm confident that if it comes down to it, I can prove our environment does not warrant any wasted hardware expenses. - Sean On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:54 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.netwrote: Hmm.. sounds like he is going to give you some money to boost up the number of servers you
Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Oh yes... public humiliation (or a good flogging) would be satisfying. At least you can go home for the weekend with this thing pretty much settled. Good job! Roger On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting with Dell server hardware and Equalogic storage. The more I get to play with the EQL unit and realize it's capabilities, the more I think this is the future of our storage needs. The scalability of the EQL is probably the most appealing, but I also like the fact that they bundle other capabilities such as replication, automatic storage tiering, etc. without nickle and diming you like other storage vendors do for those same capabilities. I highly recommend you give it a close look if you're looking at a new product. I keep hearing that iSCSI is the storage protocol of the future and the fiber channel, though it will be around for many many years, is slowly dying. If you don't already have an established fiber channel environment, and you're used to iSCSI, you may find it to be a lot more appealing and easier on the wallet. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: I/we hate them. Or I should say the horrible Replication Manager backup software. Moving to a new architecture soon. Clrion, fibrechannel with flash drives (which won't help us when we move from 2003 probably in a year or two, but that is another story) Using EMC's Recoverpoint ( http://www.emc.com/products/detail/software/recoverpoint.htm) Anyone aware of it? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: I have to admit, I shuddered a little bit when I read you're using the Celerra. We have a couple of NS502G as iSCSI gateways to our Clariions. I've never really liked them, but I guess my complaints have more to do with the cludgy interface than anything else. We only use them to serve up iSCSI luns to a few Microsoft Virtual Server hosts for test/dev and to provide non-critical CIFS. Good to hear you're seeing positive results. Thanks for sharing. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:08 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: We have 9000+ mailboxes on 2 backend servers, fronted by 2 FE servers. Storage is EMC Celerra, iSCSI (soon to be fiberchannel). No performance problems whatsoever! On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: If/when I need additional hardware to boost performance, I'll have no problem getting it. This statement came from a manager of a non-technical department who believes he can do a better job than all of our existing Analysts. I'm sure it sounds like I'm taking it a bit personally, and I may be, but this is just a case where I know our current environment is over-sized, and I've got the performance metrics to prove it. This is an Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 environment, 2003 AD. Each server is a PowerEdge M710, 6GB RAM (limited via boot.ini due to 32-bit), 4 local 15k sas drives (RAID 1 OS, RAID 1 page file/temp directories). QLogic 2572 HBAs connected to Brocade 5300 Fiber switches (4gbps) to an EMC CX700. Logs are stored on a 4 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, Stores are on a 14 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, SMTP, message tracking, mta directories are on a RAID 1 (15k FC). A third front-end server provides ActiveSync. Disk I/O has always been our biggest battle and based on our user I/O, the above configuration has yielded very good results. Although we do have about 2000 mailboxes, only 1200-1300 of those are ever accessed concurrently, so with that we're barey above this 500 mailbox limitation he came up with. I guess a lot of this stems from this particular manager having a reputation of trying make others look bad in these high-profile meetings. My boss(es) are taking this more personally than I am. Anyway, thanks for the information thus far. I'm confident that if it comes down
RE: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Any ideas on where the idiot wanted to go with this info? What agenda or problem where they pushing or did they just want you to waste your time for 3 days justifing the good solution you already have? _ From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting with Dell server hardware and Equalogic storage. The more I get to play with the EQL unit and realize it's capabilities, the more I think this is the future of our storage needs. The scalability of the EQL is probably the most appealing, but I also like the fact that they bundle other capabilities such as replication, automatic storage tiering, etc. without nickle and diming you like other storage vendors do for those same capabilities. I highly recommend you give it a close look if you're looking at a new product. I keep hearing that iSCSI is the storage protocol of the future and the fiber channel, though it will be around for many many years, is slowly dying. If you don't already have an established fiber channel environment, and you're used to iSCSI, you may find it to be a lot more appealing and easier on the wallet. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: I/we hate them. Or I should say the horrible Replication Manager backup software. Moving to a new architecture soon. Clrion, fibrechannel with flash drives (which won't help us when we move from 2003 probably in a year or two, but that is another story) Using EMC's Recoverpoint (http://www.emc.com/products/detail/software/recoverpoint.htm) Anyone aware of it? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit, I shuddered a little bit when I read you're using the Celerra. We have a couple of NS502G as iSCSI gateways to our Clariions. I've never really liked them, but I guess my complaints have more to do with the cludgy interface than anything else. We only use them to serve up iSCSI luns to a few Microsoft Virtual Server hosts for test/dev and to provide non-critical CIFS. Good to hear you're seeing positive results. Thanks for sharing. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:08 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: We have 9000+ mailboxes on 2 backend servers, fronted by 2 FE servers. Storage is EMC Celerra, iSCSI (soon to be fiberchannel). No performance problems whatsoever! On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: If/when I need additional hardware to boost performance, I'll have no problem getting it. This statement came from a manager of a non-technical department who believes he can do a better job than all of our existing Analysts. I'm sure it sounds like I'm taking it a bit personally, and I may be, but this is just a case where I know our current environment is over-sized, and I've got the performance metrics to prove it. This is an Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 environment, 2003 AD. Each server is a PowerEdge M710, 6GB RAM (limited via boot.ini due to 32-bit), 4 local 15k sas drives (RAID 1 OS, RAID 1 page file/temp directories). QLogic 2572 HBAs connected to Brocade 5300 Fiber switches (4gbps) to an EMC CX700. Logs are stored on a 4 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, Stores are on a 14 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, SMTP, message tracking, mta directories are on a RAID 1 (15k FC). A third front-end server provides ActiveSync. Disk I/O has always been our biggest battle and based on our user I/O, the above configuration has yielded very good results. Although we do have about 2000 mailboxes, only 1200-1300 of those are ever accessed concurrently, so with that we're barey above this 500 mailbox limitation he came up with. I guess a lot of this stems from this particular manager having a reputation of trying make others look bad in these high-profile meetings. My boss(es) are taking this more personally than I
RE: drive space mystery
I use live Vault from Iron mountain to back up email David From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: drive space mystery Probably logs file are going to G: (and not shrinked by backup exchange aware) GuidoElia HELPPC Da: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Inviato: venerdì 2 aprile 2010 14.43 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: drive space mystery I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such The db's are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
RE: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Sounds to me like a seagull manager. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Any ideas on where the idiot wanted to go with this info? What agenda or problem where they pushing or did they just want you to waste your time for 3 days justifing the good solution you already have? From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting with Dell server hardware and Equalogic storage. The more I get to play with the EQL unit and realize it's capabilities, the more I think this is the future of our storage needs. The scalability of the EQL is probably the most appealing, but I also like the fact that they bundle other capabilities such as replication, automatic storage tiering, etc. without nickle and diming you like other storage vendors do for those same capabilities. I highly recommend you give it a close look if you're looking at a new product. I keep hearing that iSCSI is the storage protocol of the future and the fiber channel, though it will be around for many many years, is slowly dying. If you don't already have an established fiber channel environment, and you're used to iSCSI, you may find it to be a lot more appealing and easier on the wallet. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: I/we hate them. Or I should say the horrible Replication Manager backup software. Moving to a new architecture soon. Clrion, fibrechannel with flash drives (which won't help us when we move from 2003 probably in a year or two, but that is another story) Using EMC's Recoverpoint (http://www.emc.com/products/detail/software/recoverpoint.htm) Anyone aware of it? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit, I shuddered a little bit when I read you're using the Celerra. We have a couple of NS502G as iSCSI gateways to our Clariions. I've never really liked them, but I guess my complaints have more to do with the cludgy interface than anything else. We only use them to serve up iSCSI luns to a few Microsoft Virtual Server hosts for test/dev and to provide non-critical CIFS. Good to hear you're seeing positive results. Thanks for sharing. - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:08 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: We have 9000+ mailboxes on 2 backend servers, fronted by 2 FE servers. Storage is EMC Celerra, iSCSI (soon to be fiberchannel). No performance problems whatsoever! On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: If/when I need additional hardware to boost performance, I'll have no problem getting it. This statement came from a manager of a non-technical department who believes he can do a better job than all of our existing Analysts. I'm sure it sounds like I'm taking it a bit personally, and I may be, but this is just a case where I know our current environment is over-sized, and I've got the performance metrics to prove it. This is an Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 environment, 2003 AD. Each server is a PowerEdge M710, 6GB RAM (limited via boot.ini due to 32-bit), 4 local 15k sas drives (RAID 1 OS, RAID 1 page file/temp directories). QLogic 2572 HBAs connected to Brocade 5300 Fiber switches (4gbps) to an EMC CX700. Logs are stored on a 4 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, Stores are on a 14 disk (15k FC) RAID 10, SMTP, message tracking, mta directories are on a RAID 1 (15k FC). A third front-end server provides ActiveSync.
E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
How long have you waited? At least two hours? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/18/Exchange-Server-Caches.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
I felt there was some sync/update I needed to wait for - I've had just enough E2K7 instruction to I think I remember something, I ran GPUPATE wondering if it would somehow force some replication/updates/communication. It works now but I'm sure the GPUPDATE timing was coincidental. It had been just over an hour, thanks for that link! Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect How long have you waited? At least two hours? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/18/Exchange-Server-Caches.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
Re: drive space mystery Solved
I wouldn't be too hasty about that if I were you. Make sure you understand it before you turn it off. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996004%28EXCHG.65%29.aspx Roger On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:11 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.comwrote: The engineers that built the server turned on shadow copy. Not sure why you need that on exchange but I turned it off. Drive back up. “ I have 03 enterprise exchange sp2. My folder structure is as such [image: cid:image001.png@01CAD240.46CFE4D0] The db’s are in the data drive. I do a properties on the inside of the Exchsrvr folder and it only totals 142 gb. Where is all the drive space going? There should be approx 300 gb free. It is dropping like a stone. I did not want to reboot yet hoping maybe it was a reporting bug. Any thoughts thank you. David This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify our e-mail administrator at supp...@hwinstitute.com. image001.png
RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
Do those registry settings and the info in general apply to E2010? Thanks, Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect How long have you waited? At least two hours? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/18/Exchange-S erver-Caches.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
There were some cache improvements in Exchange 2010, but not as much as you would hope for. I know one of those can be deleted, but I don't remember which one it is. I still use the same .reg file I have for years. So, yes, the registry settings apply, and my recommended values haven't changed. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect Do those registry settings and the info in general apply to E2010? Thanks, Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect How long have you waited? At least two hours? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/18/Exchange-Server-Caches.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect
Thanks, guess I'll keep using my .reg file when I get there... hopefully soon on a test system at least. Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect There were some cache improvements in Exchange 2010, but not as much as you would hope for. I know one of those can be deleted, but I don't remember which one it is. I still use the same .reg file I have for years. So, yes, the registry settings apply, and my recommended values haven't changed. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect Do those registry settings and the info in general apply to E2010? Thanks, Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect How long have you waited? At least two hours? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/18/Exchange-S erver-Caches.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: E2K7 mailbox setting not taking effect We changed a user mailbox limit and it didn't take effect. I have made changes to other mailboxes and they don't seem to take effect either - where should I troubleshoot? Messages are internal user to internal user, but if I change my own mailbox limit to 10K and deny send/receive, I can still get a message even though my mailbox has 200MB of mail. Is there some synchronization I need to look for? Thanks David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Honestly, I can probably only speculate. I believe this manager has previous technical experience, and now he manages a non-technical department (although related to IT). He probably thinks he knows better. From what my boss told me, the meeting where he made this statement is where he was presenting an updated Email Use policy to all Executives that he's been working on for over a year. This policy covers the standards, but is also going to re-introduce mailbox storage limits and archive storage limits (Symantec EV). His proposed method of introducing Storage Limits was based on how we categorize employees (Job Titles fall with categories), for the sake of this explanation, we'll say its 1-20 (1 being the top Executive -- President/CEO). His idea is that categories 15-20 will get X amount of storage, and that will increase as we move up in category. The problem with that methodology, is we have job positions that fall within a very low category for various reasons, one being that they're in a Sales position and they're paid on a commission basis. They're annual salary may place them in a bottom category, but they're actually fairly high-profile employees (maybe even Jr Executives in some cases), and because of that, probably have a valid reason for requiring more storage. Not to mention we have several Joint Ventures where the category system is completely different, yet his policy is meant to cover the entire organization. Anyway, apparently this policy has been presented to our Top Executives on more than one occassion and it has been shot down each time because they recognized his methodology just won't work. Somehow the conversation turned to the mail environment and my boss speculates he made the comment to turn the attention away from him and his lack of following direction. I'm just starting to find out this guy has a reputation of being two-faced. He'll be more than accomodating and agreeable while working on a specific initiative and then turn around and throw you under a bus in front of other peers to make himself look better. In the end, we were able to dispute his off-hand remark so there's really no harm done. As I said, it's just unfortunate there will be no further repercussion. The one good thing to come from this was that our CIO recognized he wasn't coordinating his efforts with our Technical department. He has no business deciding how much storage we can support per mailbox because he doesn't have a clue what our architecture looks like. It's going to feel real good when I advise him we're pushing hard to make the jump from Exch 2003 to Exch 2010 and that mailbox sizes (from a performance perspective) will be less of an issue in our minds, which in turn may just render his policy useless. I've got more than enough storage capacity to support our growth for a long time. Of course I'll let him spend a lot more time revising his policy before it gets shot down during a technical review. :) - Sean On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:39 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Any ideas on where the idiot wanted to go with this info? What agenda or problem where they pushing or did they just want you to waste your time for 3 days justifing the good solution you already have? -- *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 02, 2010 11:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting with Dell server hardware and Equalogic storage. The more I get to play with the EQL unit and realize it's capabilities, the more I think this is the future of our storage needs. The scalability of the EQL is probably the most appealing, but I also like the fact that they bundle other capabilities such as replication, automatic storage tiering, etc. without nickle and diming you like other storage vendors do for those same capabilities.
All users in all DL's in an OU
I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
RE: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
The guy sounds like he fits this description: http://changingminds.org/disciplines/leadership/articles/kipper_manageme nt.htm Interesting site, by the way, which I found when I had to look up seagull management From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Honestly, I can probably only speculate. I believe this manager has previous technical experience, and now he manages a non-technical department (although related to IT). He probably thinks he knows better. From what my boss told me, the meeting where he made this statement is where he was presenting an updated Email Use policy to all Executives that he's been working on for over a year. This policy covers the standards, but is also going to re-introduce mailbox storage limits and archive storage limits (Symantec EV). His proposed method of introducing Storage Limits was based on how we categorize employees (Job Titles fall with categories), for the sake of this explanation, we'll say its 1-20 (1 being the top Executive -- President/CEO). His idea is that categories 15-20 will get X amount of storage, and that will increase as we move up in category. The problem with that methodology, is we have job positions that fall within a very low category for various reasons, one being that they're in a Sales position and they're paid on a commission basis. They're annual salary may place them in a bottom category, but they're actually fairly high-profile employees (maybe even Jr Executives in some cases), and because of that, probably have a valid reason for requiring more storage. Not to mention we have several Joint Ventures where the category system is completely different, yet his policy is meant to cover the entire organization. Anyway, apparently this policy has been presented to our Top Executives on more than one occassion and it has been shot down each time because they recognized his methodology just won't work. Somehow the conversation turned to the mail environment and my boss speculates he made the comment to turn the attention away from him and his lack of following direction. I'm just starting to find out this guy has a reputation of being two-faced. He'll be more than accomodating and agreeable while working on a specific initiative and then turn around and throw you under a bus in front of other peers to make himself look better. In the end, we were able to dispute his off-hand remark so there's really no harm done. As I said, it's just unfortunate there will be no further repercussion. The one good thing to come from this was that our CIO recognized he wasn't coordinating his efforts with our Technical department. He has no business deciding how much storage we can support per mailbox because he doesn't have a clue what our architecture looks like. It's going to feel real good when I advise him we're pushing hard to make the jump from Exch 2003 to Exch 2010 and that mailbox sizes (from a performance perspective) will be less of an issue in our minds, which in turn may just render his policy useless. I've got more than enough storage capacity to support our growth for a long time. Of course I'll let him spend a lot more time revising his policy before it gets shot down during a technical review. :) - Sean On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:39 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Any ideas on where the idiot wanted to go with this info? What agenda or problem where they pushing or did they just want you to waste your time for 3 days justifing the good solution you already have? From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we already had an EMC environment and established fiber channel fabric. I don't have any experience with the Recoverpoint software. With that said, we're currently working on a Virtualization proof of concept, starting
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
How do you want the output to look? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU How do you want the output to look? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Csv? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] CS Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU How do you want the output to look? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Sure.., I 'm not super picky on output.. I tried export-csv bob.csv, but that just returned all of the attributes of all of the users like I ran get-user From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU Csv? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] CS Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU How do you want the output to look? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
Re: All users in all DL's in an OU
I haven't done too much with PS, but the AD commands could probably get you what you need. dsquery * ou=XXX,ou=XXX,dc=XXX,dc=XXX,dc=com -filter ((objectCategory=group)(name=*)) -attr cn member c:\filename.txt You'll probably need to manipulate the results into a CSV. - Sean On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: I’ve been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL’s. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL’s in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong…. Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output – missing the DL – a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Try this:
$dl_recs = @()
$groups = get-distributiongroup -organizationalunit ou
foreach ($group in $groups){
get-distributiongroupmember $group |% {
$_ | Add-Member -MemberType NoteProperty -Name DL -Value $group.name
$dl_recs += $_
}
}
$dl_recs | select DL,Name,RecipientType | Export-Csv dl.csv -notype
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Sure.., I 'm not super picky on output.. I tried export-csv bob.csv, but that
just returned all of the attributes of all of the users like I ran get-user
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Csv?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
CS
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType.
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
How do you want the output to look?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU
I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of
their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in
an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who
would be willing to share, written this script all ready?
My Guess at a one-liner
==
Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob |
Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt
The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me
==
Name
RecipientType
-
f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact
ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
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Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server
Good stuff Kim! I think you pretty much nailed it. - Sean On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: The guy sounds like he fits this description: http://changingminds.org/disciplines/leadership/articles/kipper_management.htm Interesting site, by the way, which I found when I had to look up “seagull management” -- *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 02, 2010 12:54 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Honestly, I can probably only speculate. I believe this manager has previous technical experience, and now he manages a non-technical department (although related to IT). He probably thinks he knows better. From what my boss told me, the meeting where he made this statement is where he was presenting an updated Email Use policy to all Executives that he's been working on for over a year. This policy covers the standards, but is also going to re-introduce mailbox storage limits and archive storage limits (Symantec EV). His proposed method of introducing Storage Limits was based on how we categorize employees (Job Titles fall with categories), for the sake of this explanation, we'll say its 1-20 (1 being the top Executive -- President/CEO). His idea is that categories 15-20 will get X amount of storage, and that will increase as we move up in category. The problem with that methodology, is we have job positions that fall within a very low category for various reasons, one being that they're in a Sales position and they're paid on a commission basis. They're annual salary may place them in a bottom category, but they're actually fairly high-profile employees (maybe even Jr Executives in some cases), and because of that, probably have a valid reason for requiring more storage. Not to mention we have several Joint Ventures where the category system is completely different, yet his policy is meant to cover the entire organization. Anyway, apparently this policy has been presented to our Top Executives on more than one occassion and it has been shot down each time because they recognized his methodology just won't work. Somehow the conversation turned to the mail environment and my boss speculates he made the comment to turn the attention away from him and his lack of following direction. I'm just starting to find out this guy has a reputation of being two-faced. He'll be more than accomodating and agreeable while working on a specific initiative and then turn around and throw you under a bus in front of other peers to make himself look better. In the end, we were able to dispute his off-hand remark so there's really no harm done. As I said, it's just unfortunate there will be no further repercussion. The one good thing to come from this was that our CIO recognized he wasn't coordinating his efforts with our Technical department. He has no business deciding how much storage we can support per mailbox because he doesn't have a clue what our architecture looks like. It's going to feel real good when I advise him we're pushing hard to make the jump from Exch 2003 to Exch 2010 and that mailbox sizes (from a performance perspective) will be less of an issue in our minds, which in turn may just render his policy useless. I've got more than enough storage capacity to support our growth for a long time. Of course I'll let him spend a lot more time revising his policy before it gets shot down during a technical review. :) - Sean On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:39 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Any ideas on where the idiot wanted to go with this info? What agenda or problem where they pushing or did they just want you to waste your time for 3 days justifing the good solution you already have? -- *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 02, 2010 11:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2003 - Recommended # of Mailboxes per Server Unfortunately, my assumptions were correct. My VP took the evidence that disproved the comments and showed it to our CIO. He was convinced we knew what we were doing and said the other manager should have never opened his mouth. The unfortunate part is that is pretty much it. I may still push him for the article he got his information from, but I'm not going to get the satisfaction of him being called out publicly. Oh well, still a win for IT! - Sean On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Gotcha. We've been an EMC shop for several years. I've worked with CX200, CX300 and we've currently got two CX700s and one CX4-960 I just implemented. From a performance perspective, I've been really happy with the Clariions. When we introduced the CX4-960, it just made sense because we
RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
That is pretty much perfect Thanks Rob...
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Try this:
$dl_recs = @()
$groups = get-distributiongroup -organizationalunit ou
foreach ($group in $groups){
get-distributiongroupmember $group |% {
$_ | Add-Member -MemberType NoteProperty -Name DL -Value $group.name
$dl_recs += $_
}
}
$dl_recs | select DL,Name,RecipientType | Export-Csv dl.csv -notype
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Sure.., I 'm not super picky on output.. I tried export-csv bob.csv, but that
just returned all of the attributes of all of the users like I ran get-user
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Csv?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
CS
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType.
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
How do you want the output to look?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU
I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of
their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in
an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who
would be willing to share, written this script all ready?
My Guess at a one-liner
==
Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob |
Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt
The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me
==
Name
RecipientType
-
f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact
ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
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RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
No problem :)
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
That is pretty much perfect Thanks Rob...
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Try this:
$dl_recs = @()
$groups = get-distributiongroup -organizationalunit ou
foreach ($group in $groups){
get-distributiongroupmember $group |% {
$_ | Add-Member -MemberType NoteProperty -Name DL -Value $group.name
$dl_recs += $_
}
}
$dl_recs | select DL,Name,RecipientType | Export-Csv dl.csv -notype
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Sure.., I 'm not super picky on output.. I tried export-csv bob.csv, but that
just returned all of the attributes of all of the users like I ran get-user
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Csv?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
CS
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
DLNAME | User NAME |RecpientType.
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
How do you want the output to look?
From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU
I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of
their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in
an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who
would be willing to share, written this script all ready?
My Guess at a one-liner
==
Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob |
Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt
The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me
==
Name
RecipientType
-
f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact
ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
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RE: All users in all DL's in an OU
Have any dynamic DLs? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: All users in all DL's in an OU I've been asked to provide a customer with a list of all of the users in all of their DL's. I figured this would be a simple one-liner. Get all of the DL's in an OU, and spit out the members. I was wrong Has anyone out there, who would be willing to share, written this script all ready? My Guess at a one-liner == Get-DistributionGroup -OrganizationalUnitrebob/bob | Get-DistributionGroupMember | out-file dl.txt The output - missing the DL - a list of users is not helpful to me == Name RecipientType - f919e368-1878-4aa0-adf8-a83635cc3031 MailContact ee2ea8f6-5306-4d75-866d-33431d915d27 MailContact
