RE: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...

2011-06-01 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I recently experienced the exact same issue. After dealing with PSS and having 
the case escalated, it was determined that AD had some type of corruption as I 
had created new db's and imported exmerged data back in *several* times. Yet 
some users even with new accounts would still get issues, fortunately we were 
in the middle of a swing migration to a new '08r2 domain and Ex2010 so we gave 
up as it didn't matter, we just rushed the migration instead.

Not saying that's your issue, but the scenario could be far more complicated 
than you might expect, pay the $250.00 and call PSS, it will be well worth it...

jlc

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...

None that we can see.
No exceptional errors in the Event logs

thx
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kennedy, Jim 
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:
Server running slow? iOS's have timeout limits in the OS.

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...

No cert changes done lately at all.
CIO's calendar will not sync correctly.
Her inbox had problems at first (9000 items)
She dumped her inbox to a PST and that problem went away, but the calendar 
problem persists.
We have dropped and added the iphone mail config repeatedly with no luck.
Other iOS people are reporting similar problems.
Never had problems before.
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Self signed certificate is a common trouble point...
It's the #1 problem I had before moving away from Activesync...
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:37 PM, sms adm 
sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone?
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, sms adm 
sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com wrote:
Exchange 2003 SP2
Various iOS devices (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Error: Cannot get mail,  Server error, Contact your server administrator

Some of the people have a large number of items in their folder. Moving them
off to a PST resolves the problem.
Some have very normal looking inboxes and calendars.
No corruption that we can find.
CIO has an iPhone with 4.3.1  iOS

Deleted and readded the Exch config. No go.

Thx in advance



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BES Express 5.03 and moving BES to Exchange 2010

2011-06-01 Thread Paul Hutchings
So I just came to look on the Blackberry website to see what I'd need to
do to get our BES Express 5.0.2 MR1 box configured to work with a new
Exchange 2010 server (we're currently on 2003).

 

I see 5.0.3 is now out so I'm just downloading it.

 

A couple of questions I guess, firstly is anyone using 5.0.3 Express and
is there any feedback on it?

 

Second, obviously when I setup our BES Express I followed the Blackberry
tutorial videos to configure it with Exchange 2003.  Now we have an
Exchange 2010 box I'm assuming I simply run the command/processes
listed for Exchange 2010 here
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcextern
alId=KB22601 and I should be good to go?

 

Any feedback would be grand prior to diving in.

 

Thanks,

Paul 


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Anyone use PowerPoof before

2011-06-01 Thread Todd Lemmiksoo
I am trying to PowerPoof a number of users calendars. I get error code
0x8004010F cannot find calendar. I have tried another account that is just a
domain admin and my account with the same error. Google has not helped!

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Re: Anyone use PowerPoof before

2011-06-01 Thread James Rankin
What a fantastic name for a piece of software - sounds like some kind of
camp superhero!

(No offence intended to anyone, BTW)

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 I am trying to PowerPoof a number of users calendars. I get error code
 0x8004010F cannot find calendar. I have tried another account that is just a
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Re: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...

2011-06-01 Thread sms adm
Thx.
We're in the design phase of the same migration and it's been quiet this
week.
I may do the same unless the problems become more critical.

Thx

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.comwrote:

  I recently experienced the exact same issue. After dealing with PSS and
 having the case escalated, it was determined that AD had some type of
 corruption as I had created new db’s and imported exmerged data back in **
 several** times. Yet some users even with new accounts would still get
 issues, fortunately we were in the middle of a swing migration to a new
 ‘08r2 domain and Ex2010 so we gave up as it didn’t matter, we just rushed
 the migration instead.



 Not saying that’s your issue, but the scenario could be far more
 complicated than you might expect, pay the $250.00 and call PSS, it will be
 well worth it…



 jlc



 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:24 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...



 None that we can see.

 No exceptional errors in the Event logs



 thx

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

 Server running slow? iOS’s have timeout limits in the OS.



 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:09 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: iOS Devices Unable to Sync ...



 No cert changes done lately at all.

 CIO's calendar will not sync correctly.

 Her inbox had problems at first (9000 items)

 She dumped her inbox to a PST and that problem went away, but the calendar
 problem persists.

 We have dropped and added the iphone mail config repeatedly with no luck.

 Other iOS people are reporting similar problems.

 Never had problems before.

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Self signed certificate is a common trouble point...

 It's the #1 problem I had before moving away from Activesync...

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:37 PM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone?

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:

 Exchange 2003 SP2
 Various iOS devices (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
 Error: Cannot get mail,  Server error, Contact your server administrator

 Some of the people have a large number of items in their folder. Moving
 them
 off to a PST resolves the problem.
 Some have very normal looking inboxes and calendars.
 No corruption that we can find.

 CIO has an iPhone with 4.3.1  iOS


 Deleted and readded the Exch config. No go.

 Thx in advance




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RE: Error 1020 on some Public Folders during replication

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Are you on RTM or SP1?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Error 1020 on some Public Folders during replication

Slowly going through our Public Folder hierarchy adding our new Exchange 2010 
server to the replica list.

I have around half a dozen instances of:

The store driver couldn't deliver the public folder replication message Folder 
Content Backfill Response (mail01...@domain.commailto:mail01...@domain.com 
because the following error occurred: Property: [0x6751000b] , 
PropertyErrorCode: AccessDenied, PropertyErrorDescription: ..

The store driver couldn't deliver the public folder replication message Folder 
Content Backfill Response (mail01...@domain.commailto:mail01...@domain.com) 
because the following error occurred: Property validation failed. Property = 
[{00020329---c000-0046}:'Keywords'] Categories
Error = Element 0 in the multivalue property is invalid...

Where mail01 is the Exchange 2003 server.

I don't see any way of telling which, if any, folder/item the issue is with - 
and Google isn't turning up many instances of that 0x6751000b error.

Just wondered if anyone has any suggestions?

I've used ExFolder to add the replicas, I did wonder if it's worth doing a 
DACL/ACL check too?

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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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Re: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Really? Whats different?

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On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

 In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database
 volumes.

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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
The overall i/o profile of Exchange is different than in prior releases of 
Exchange. Even slow disk can typically handle both DB and log on the same 
physical volume.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Am I in a corner?

Really? Whats different?

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mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.


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Re: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I'm really amazed by 2010.  It's as if MS designed a product for high
availability by actually thinking about it from the ground up.

I just need to get better at Powershell.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  The overall i/o profile of Exchange is different than in prior releases
 of Exchange. Even slow disk can typically handle both DB and log on the same
 physical volume.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:06 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Am I in a corner?



 Really? Whats different?

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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Peterson
RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Rupprecht, James R
Yes, but the separation of transaction logs and databases in older versions of 
Exchange was more about recovering from failures than i/o profiles. What 
changed in Exchange 2010 is DAG replicas.

That being said, I still maintain logs and databases on separate spindles in my 
environment (I have 75,000 mailboxes, 3 replica DAG) because I maintain my AP-3 
replica off-site for BC purposes. That replica could, potentially, end up 
running for an extended period of time as the only copy of the data... in which 
case I really would want the protection provided by isolating transaction logs 
and databases on separate spindles.

-jim


James Rupprecht
Senior Systems Specialist
Microsoft Exchange  Active Directory Administrator 
University of Kansas Information Technology


 
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The overall i/o profile of Exchange is different than in prior releases of 
Exchange. Even slow disk can typically handle both DB and log on the same 
physical volume.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Am I in a corner?

Really? Whats different?

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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
I would disagree with your statement regarding separation of transaction logs 
and databases in older versions of Exchange.

I refer you to:

http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2010/03/29/3409629.aspx

http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2011/01/07/robert-s-rules-of-exchange-storage-planning-and-testing.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=e3303d34-af6c-4108-861b-dc05f9cf3e76displaylang=en

for more information.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Rupprecht, James R [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Yes, but the separation of transaction logs and databases in older versions of 
Exchange was more about recovering from failures than i/o profiles. What 
changed in Exchange 2010 is DAG replicas.

That being said, I still maintain logs and databases on separate spindles in my 
environment (I have 75,000 mailboxes, 3 replica DAG) because I maintain my AP-3 
replica off-site for BC purposes. That replica could, potentially, end up 
running for an extended period of time as the only copy of the data... in which 
case I really would want the protection provided by isolating transaction logs 
and databases on separate spindles.

-jim


James Rupprecht
Senior Systems Specialist
Microsoft Exchange  Active Directory Administrator 
University of Kansas Information Technology


 
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The overall i/o profile of Exchange is different than in prior releases of 
Exchange. Even slow disk can typically handle both DB and log on the same 
physical volume.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Am I in a corner?

Really? Whats different?

--
ME2



On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Peterson
The steps as you mention is exactly what we have been attempting... the gotcha 
I think, is there are other partitions already on the slice, that fall between 
the piece we want to grow and the unallocated space.  It is the data in the 
middle, I think that causes the need to convert to dynamic.  I'd love to be 
wrong, but that is what we are seeing.  If there was only ONE partition, and it 
next to the unallocated space, I think I could grow it just fine.

Our example: We want to grow DB02

Basic DISK 3 = |ExDBMount|DB01|DB02|DB03|DB03|DB04   |DB05   
|Unallocated Space|

Again, I'm feeling we just need to get these DBs onto their own disks.

Thank you all,
Robert

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
So every server sees every other server's partition on the slice?

Yeah, that's not the way I would do it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The steps as you mention is exactly what we have been attempting... the gotcha 
I think, is there are other partitions already on the slice, that fall between 
the piece we want to grow and the unallocated space.  It is the data in the 
middle, I think that causes the need to convert to dynamic.  I'd love to be 
wrong, but that is what we are seeing.  If there was only ONE partition, and it 
next to the unallocated space, I think I could grow it just fine.

Our example: We want to grow DB02

Basic DISK 3 = |ExDBMount|DB01|DB02|DB03|DB03|DB04   |DB05   
|Unallocated Space|

Again, I'm feeling we just need to get these DBs onto their own disks.

Thank you all,
Robert

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Peterson
No, they don't all see the same slice  But every server has a slice 
similarly setup on its own SAN.  Some servers have the Active copy of a 
particular DB. Others, using a different slice (in a different location), are 
maintaining a passive copy.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

So every server sees every other server's partition on the slice?

Yeah, that's not the way I would do it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The steps as you mention is exactly what we have been attempting... the gotcha 
I think, is there are other partitions already on the slice, that fall between 
the piece we want to grow and the unallocated space.  It is the data in the 
middle, I think that causes the need to convert to dynamic.  I'd love to be 
wrong, but that is what we are seeing.  If there was only ONE partition, and it 
next to the unallocated space, I think I could grow it just fine.

Our example: We want to grow DB02

Basic DISK 3 = |ExDBMount|DB01|DB02|DB03|DB03|DB04   |DB05   
|Unallocated Space|

Again, I'm feeling we just need to get these DBs onto their own disks.

Thank you all,
Robert

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

All,
Current Setup:
Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4 hosts.
4 - Mailbox servers
Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.
E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other 
servers.
F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)
4 - CAS/HT servers

Concern:
All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or volume 
(E:\) being presented from the SAN.

Issues:

* I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a new 
DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a 
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by Microsoft.

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good reason 
to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present two new 
disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on the same 
path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

Thanks,
Robert



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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread gsweers
I am trying to understand as well.

Are you saying that you have all your Databases on the same LUN mapped via 
ISCSI to a single partition on the Exchange server, that's what it looks like 
by your diagram and description.
The partition is what would be available per your LUN configuration from your 
SAN, size, type, etc to create volumes on.

If you only have drive e and no other partitions after that then you should 
have no issue expanding the LUN, and then expanding the volume on the 
partition.  (Multiple datastores on one partition/volume.)

If when you open up Disk Manager you have multiple volumes on that partition  
then yes in that case when you add more space and try and expand Windows will 
only add to the last drive on that partition and not to the specific volume 
needing space. (One datastore per volume, multiple volumes on one partition)

Just trying to get a picture here..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

No, they don't all see the same slice  But every server has a slice 
similarly setup on its own SAN.  Some servers have the Active copy of a 
particular DB. Others, using a different slice (in a different location), are 
maintaining a passive copy.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

So every server sees every other server's partition on the slice?

Yeah, that's not the way I would do it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The steps as you mention is exactly what we have been attempting... the gotcha 
I think, is there are other partitions already on the slice, that fall between 
the piece we want to grow and the unallocated space.  It is the data in the 
middle, I think that causes the need to convert to dynamic.  I'd love to be 
wrong, but that is what we are seeing.  If there was only ONE partition, and it 
next to the unallocated space, I think I could grow it just fine.

Our example: We want to grow DB02

Basic DISK 3 = |ExDBMount|DB01|DB02|DB03|DB03|DB04   |DB05   
|Unallocated Space|

Again, I'm feeling we just need to get these DBs onto their own disks.

Thank you all,
Robert

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be 
consistently deployed. Sothey all must be on E: once you 
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G: (or 
something) and put the new DB there.

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database volumes.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: 

RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Peterson
You are correct with the second observation.  The other difficulty seems to be 
the terminology used by all the various systems... volumes, partitions, etc. 
seem to mean different things depending on the vendor, but maybe that's just 
me. :)

Yes...  in Disk Manager  I have:
[cid:image003.jpg@01CC2073.0BF671D0]

I have a similar disk for the Logs for each DB. I need to grow the STLStaffDB01
Thanks again to all for input.
Robert

From: gswe...@acts360.com [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

I am trying to understand as well.

Are you saying that you have all your Databases on the same LUN mapped via 
ISCSI to a single partition on the Exchange server, that's what it looks like 
by your diagram and description.
The partition is what would be available per your LUN configuration from your 
SAN, size, type, etc to create volumes on.

If you only have drive e and no other partitions after that then you should 
have no issue expanding the LUN, and then expanding the volume on the 
partition.  (Multiple datastores on one partition/volume.)

If when you open up Disk Manager you have multiple volumes on that partition  
then yes in that case when you add more space and try and expand Windows will 
only add to the last drive on that partition and not to the specific volume 
needing space. (One datastore per volume, multiple volumes on one partition)

Just trying to get a picture here..

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From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

No, they don't all see the same slice  But every server has a slice 
similarly setup on its own SAN.  Some servers have the Active copy of a 
particular DB. Others, using a different slice (in a different location), are 
maintaining a passive copy.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

So every server sees every other server's partition on the slice?

Yeah, that's not the way I would do it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

The steps as you mention is exactly what we have been attempting... the gotcha 
I think, is there are other partitions already on the slice, that fall between 
the piece we want to grow and the unallocated space.  It is the data in the 
middle, I think that causes the need to convert to dynamic.  I'd love to be 
wrong, but that is what we are seeing.  If there was only ONE partition, and it 
next to the unallocated space, I think I could grow it just fine.

Our example: We want to grow DB02

Basic DISK 3 = |ExDBMount|DB01|DB02|DB03|DB03|DB04   |DB05   
|Unallocated Space|

Again, I'm feeling we just need to get these DBs onto their own disks.

Thank you all,
Robert

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Dude, then you are doing it wrong. :)

First, you increase the size of the slice on the SAN - how you do that on the 
SAN is dependent on the SAN.

Once you've done that, viewing the disk from Computer Management - Disk 
Management should show you the volume with Unallocated Space. Then, you can 
extend the partition WITHOUT a conversion to dynamic disk.

The switch to dynamic disk actually means you are creating a software RAID-0.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

RE: What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

If I grow the volume we are presenting from the SAN,  The MB server (Server 
2008 Data Center) is allowing me to Extend the particular partition, but it 
warns it will convert the entire Basic disk to a Dynamic disk.

We did this in a test instance and visually it looks like the partition has 
two separate non-contiguous  partitions on the disk. The whole disk is then 
considered Dynamic.  Looks like it's taking two partitions and virtually 
treating them as one.  Not sure what this would do to a large single file 
database.

-Robert

P.S.  I think I am leaning towards presenting a new disk and keeping the logs 
on the same path.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG 

Send on Behalf error

2011-06-01 Thread Thiessen, Matt
Hello,

I have run into and interesting problem when using outlook 2010 with exchange 
2003. The user has permission to send on behalf of their boss. When they go 
into the from field and look up their boss the email gets sent fine. When they 
select the same from email address using the dropdown where it remembers the 
name the message does not go through. They get a NDR with the following:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:test
  Sent: 5/24/2011 1:50 PM

The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:

  Lastname, Firstname on 5/24/2011 1:50 PM
You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For 
assistance, contact your system administrator.
MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:/DC=ca/DC=ab/DC=gprc:servername

I will mention as well that they are running in cache exchange mode on the 
client, it is happening to more than just 1 person as well. We are running in a 
mixed mode environment with users being migrated over to 2010.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thank you,

Matt Thiessen
IT Systems Manager
Grande Prairie Regional College
780-539-2852


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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
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317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
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Suite 500
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RE: Am I in a corner?

2011-06-01 Thread Matt Moore
I'm with you Michael, 

 Just add another mount point and be done with it.  DB and logs, one each
per mount point, on the same disk, drive, whatever.   It makes it much
easier to keep track of them.With having well over a hundred Dags in
just about every configuration one could imagine in just one environment I
can't say keep it simple enough.  As for virtual mailbox servers, not sure
I'd go down that road but you already have.  In my opinion, virtual servers
are not all they're cracked up to be, even in less demanding rolls such as
DC's they're affecting the performance and reliability of the orgs for a
host of reasons (hehe that's a pun son.).   

 

M

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Am I in a corner?

 

Members of a DAG require that databases protected by the DAG must be
consistently deployed. So..they all must be on E: once you
Add-MailboxDatabaseCopy (or perform the similar activity in the GUI).

 

What method are you wanting to use to grow the partition?

 

Regardless, the easiest thing would be to present a new mount point as G:
(or something) and put the new DB there.

 

In Exchange 2010 there is rarely reason to separate log and database
volumes.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Am I in a corner?

 

All,

Current Setup:

Exchange 2010 using DAG - all servers are Hyper-V guests, spread across 4
hosts.

4 - Mailbox servers 

Each server mounts 2 disks - SAN volumes, presented as iSCSI attached disks.

E:\ all Database storage ( 6 -250GB databases) --- passive copies on other
servers.

F:\ all Log storage (6 databases)

4 - CAS/HT servers

 

Concern: 

All Mailbox DBs were partitioned as mount points on the same disk or
volume (E:\) being presented from the SAN.

 

Issues:

. I need to allow room for one of the databases to grow OR create a
new DB and move some of the mailboxes.

o   I cannot grow a single DB partition without letting it convert to a
dynamic disk which looks messy and I understand is not supported by
Microsoft.

 

Questions:

1.   If I present a new disk for a new database, is there a good
reason to keep the log on a separate disk(volume), thus having to present
two new disks? The examples I see from Microsoft show the DB and log file on
the same path.

2.   I am thinking I need to eventually get all my DBs to their own
disk.

3.   What am I not knowing, that I should be thinking about?

 

Thanks,

Robert

 

 

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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Damien Solodow
It clean up detritus and make it all purty. ;)

I was doing some cleanup earlier and removing a bunch of smtp addresses for 
domains that don't exist anymore and I wondered if X.400 was still 
necessary/used.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/


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RE: Send on Behalf error

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
What are you doing as you move the users, other than a simple move mailbox?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Thiessen, Matt [mailto:mthies...@gprc.ab.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Send on Behalf error

Hello,

I have run into and interesting problem when using outlook 2010 with exchange 
2003. The user has permission to send on behalf of their boss. When they go 
into the from field and look up their boss the email gets sent fine. When they 
select the same from email address using the dropdown where it remembers the 
name the message does not go through. They get a NDR with the following:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:test
  Sent: 5/24/2011 1:50 PM

The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:

  Lastname, Firstname on 5/24/2011 1:50 PM
You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For 
assistance, contact your system administrator.
MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:/DC=ca/DC=ab/DC=gprc:servername

I will mention as well that they are running in cache exchange mode on the 
client, it is happening to more than just 1 person as well. We are running in a 
mixed mode environment with users being migrated over to 2010.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thank you,

Matt Thiessen
IT Systems Manager
Grande Prairie Regional College
780-539-2852


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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
It is not used in anything moving forward. However, for existing meetings, 
appointments, etc.etc. the X.400 address may be used.

While it is perfectly OK to eliminate CC:Mail, MSMAIL, and any foreign 
connection addresses, I would tend to leave X.400 and X.500 addresses alone.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It clean up detritus and make it all purty. ;)

I was doing some cleanup earlier and removing a bunch of smtp addresses for 
domains that don't exist anymore and I wondered if X.400 was still 
necessary/used.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/


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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Damien Solodow
Makes sense to me; not worth the hassle.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It is not used in anything moving forward. However, for existing meetings, 
appointments, etc.etc. the X.400 address may be used.

While it is perfectly OK to eliminate CC:Mail, MSMAIL, and any foreign 
connection addresses, I would tend to leave X.400 and X.500 addresses alone.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It clean up detritus and make it all purty. ;)

I was doing some cleanup earlier and removing a bunch of smtp addresses for 
domains that don't exist anymore and I wondered if X.400 was still 
necessary/used.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Steve Hart
Aren't X400 used by the Outlook cache?  I know I have had issues with cached 
.nlk files when I reassigned email addresses.

Steve Hart
Network Administrator
503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

Makes sense to me; not worth the hassle.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It is not used in anything moving forward. However, for existing meetings, 
appointments, etc.etc. the X.400 address may be used.

While it is perfectly OK to eliminate CC:Mail, MSMAIL, and any foreign 
connection addresses, I would tend to leave X.400 and X.500 addresses alone.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It clean up detritus and make it all purty. ;)

I was doing some cleanup earlier and removing a bunch of smtp addresses for 
domains that don't exist anymore and I wondered if X.400 was still 
necessary/used.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
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RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Actually, the cache uses x500 addresses (legacyExchangeDN).

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

Aren't X400 used by the Outlook cache?  I know I have had issues with cached 
.nlk files when I reassigned email addresses.

Steve Hart
Network Administrator
503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

Makes sense to me; not worth the hassle.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It is not used in anything moving forward. However, for existing meetings, 
appointments, etc.etc. the X.400 address may be used.

While it is perfectly OK to eliminate CC:Mail, MSMAIL, and any foreign 
connection addresses, I would tend to leave X.400 and X.500 addresses alone.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

It clean up detritus and make it all purty. ;)

I was doing some cleanup earlier and removing a bunch of smtp addresses for 
domains that don't exist anymore and I wondered if X.400 was still 
necessary/used.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

So Why?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Move to Exchange 2010 and X.400

We're currently migrating from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 SP1.

After we have moved everything over and decommissioned the Exchange 2003 
servers can we remove the X.400 addresses from the Exchange recipients/objects?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/


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RE: how to hide things in OWA

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
OWA Segmentation.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Sharp, Kevin [mailto:kevin.sh...@usask.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: how to hide things in OWA

If I wanted to hide the Account editing components in OWA 2010...what is the 
easiest way to do this?

Thanks

Kevin

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Re: Migrating to a hosted environment

2011-06-01 Thread Eric
No suggestions?  Do I need to provide additional information?

Thanks!

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Eric seag...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are testing a hosted Exchange environment and have run into a snag that
 I cannot figure out.  I am not the main admin for the internal Exchange 2003
 box so that is part of the challenge.  In order to support users in both
 environments during the transition, the hosting provider suggested using
 their split domain option and setting up a forwarding address (alias to the
 hosted server) on the mailboxes moved to the hosted environment.  I can:

 1.  Send a test message from my gmail account to the alias address
 successfully. (jb...@domain.serverdata.net)
 2.  Send a test message from  an internal mailbox on our Exchange server to
 the now hosted address succefully. (jb...@domain.net)

 But if I send from my gmail account to the correct domain email address (
 jb...@domain.net), the message never arrives.  If I use the message
 tracking center on my Exchange server I see the missing email with an NDR
 after the SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message.  The second test sent
 internally shows a successful outbound transfer to the hosted environment.
 Does any one have any idea of what may be causing this? Its been a while
 since I dug into an Exchange 2003 box.  I can't remember where or if I can
 dig up the NDR since it is never sent to my gmail account.

 Thanks!
 Eric

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RE: Migrating to a hosted environment

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Well, sure, you should ask the main admin for the internal Exchange 2003 box.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Eric [mailto:seag...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Migrating to a hosted environment

No suggestions?  Do I need to provide additional information?

Thanks!
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Eric 
seag...@gmail.commailto:seag...@gmail.com wrote:
We are testing a hosted Exchange environment and have run into a snag that I 
cannot figure out.  I am not the main admin for the internal Exchange 2003 box 
so that is part of the challenge.  In order to support users in both 
environments during the transition, the hosting provider suggested using their 
split domain option and setting up a forwarding address (alias to the hosted 
server) on the mailboxes moved to the hosted environment.  I can:

1.  Send a test message from my gmail account to the alias address 
successfully. (jb...@domain.serverdata.netmailto:jb...@domain.serverdata.net)
2.  Send a test message from  an internal mailbox on our Exchange server to the 
now hosted address succefully. (jb...@domain.netmailto:jb...@domain.net)

But if I send from my gmail account to the correct domain email address 
(jb...@domain.netmailto:jb...@domain.net), the message never arrives.  If I 
use the message tracking center on my Exchange server I see the missing email 
with an NDR after the SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message.  The second 
test sent internally shows a successful outbound transfer to the hosted 
environment.  Does any one have any idea of what may be causing this? Its been 
a while since I dug into an Exchange 2003 box.  I can't remember where or if I 
can dig up the NDR since it is never sent to my gmail account.

Thanks!
Eric

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Re: Migrating to a hosted environment

2011-06-01 Thread Eric
I have but he is at a loss and there is pressure to complete the project.  I
am wondering if there might be a setting that won't allow the externally
received email to be forwarded to the configured email address.  The
forwarding works just fine in my testing if the mail is sent from an
internal user on our Exchange server.

Thanks!

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  Well, sure, you should ask the “main admin for the internal Exchange 2003
 box”.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Eric [mailto:seag...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:46 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Migrating to a hosted environment



 No suggestions?  Do I need to provide additional information?


 Thanks!

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Eric seag...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are testing a hosted Exchange environment and have run into a snag that
 I cannot figure out.  I am not the main admin for the internal Exchange 2003
 box so that is part of the challenge.  In order to support users in both
 environments during the transition, the hosting provider suggested using
 their split domain option and setting up a forwarding address (alias to the
 hosted server) on the mailboxes moved to the hosted environment.  I can:



 1.  Send a test message from my gmail account to the alias address
 successfully. (jb...@domain.serverdata.net)

 2.  Send a test message from  an internal mailbox on our Exchange server to
 the now hosted address succefully. (jb...@domain.net)



 But if I send from my gmail account to the correct domain email address (
 jb...@domain.net), the message never arrives.  If I use the message
 tracking center on my Exchange server I see the missing email with an NDR
 after the SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message.  The second test sent
 internally shows a successful outbound transfer to the hosted environment.
 Does any one have any idea of what may be causing this? Its been a while
 since I dug into an Exchange 2003 box.  I can't remember where or if I can
 dig up the NDR since it is never sent to my gmail account.


 Thanks!

 Eric

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RE: Send on Behalf error

2011-06-01 Thread PRamatowski
Apologize, because we don't have many send on behalf of's the migration was a 
while back and still have memories of a snakebite or two-
What happens if they
[1]delete the boss's name from autocomplete and send a message (which should 
work)
[2] with autocomplete repopulated, what happens?

Don't know if it would matter but are boss and send on behalf people all on the 
same V of Exchange? FWIW we moved groups like that to try and mitigate 
problems, I like to think it helped a little.

From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Send on Behalf error

That's pretty typical behavior during a migration.  I've run into that and an 
awful lot of others and they're all different.  My first response would be 
apologize up and down for the inconvenience and get that migration done as soon 
as possible.  Nothing causes friction like a migration, we've had a number of 
clients run into this same scenario and put the brakes on the migration 
temporarily, thinking the problem would follow into 2010.  All have felt the 
pinch of that decision.   Well, hind sight being 20/20 I can say without a 
doubt you will be much happier when you have finished.  I think our smoothest 
migration to date was for 80,000+ users all done in one weekend.  Sure there 
were a few issues but they were all taken care very quickly in comparison.
I guess that wasn't really how to fix it, sorry about that, more looking at the 
bigger picture.  Get it done then track down the problems when you don't have a 
basket of snakes, venomous ones.

M

From: Thiessen, Matt [mailto:mthies...@gprc.ab.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Send on Behalf error

Hello,

I have run into and interesting problem when using outlook 2010 with exchange 
2003. The user has permission to send on behalf of their boss. When they go 
into the from field and look up their boss the email gets sent fine. When they 
select the same from email address using the dropdown where it remembers the 
name the message does not go through. They get a NDR with the following:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:test
  Sent: 5/24/2011 1:50 PM

The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:

  Lastname, Firstname on 5/24/2011 1:50 PM
You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For 
assistance, contact your system administrator.
MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:/DC=ca/DC=ab/DC=gprc:servername

I will mention as well that they are running in cache exchange mode on the 
client, it is happening to more than just 1 person as well. We are running in a 
mixed mode environment with users being migrated over to 2010.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thank you,

Matt Thiessen
IT Systems Manager
Grande Prairie Regional College
780-539-2852


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RE: Send on Behalf error

2011-06-01 Thread Matt Moore
In my roundabout way I guess that was the main thrust of what I was saying.
Get everyone on same side, shared mailboxes too.  We seem to have the most
problems like that when there are 2 versions at play.

 

It does help a lot!

 

M

 

From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Send on Behalf error

 

Apologize, because we don't have many send on behalf of's the migration
was a while back and still have memories of a snakebite or two-

What happens if they 

[1]delete the boss's name from autocomplete and send a message (which should
work)

[2] with autocomplete repopulated, what happens?

 

Don't know if it would matter but are boss and send on behalf people all on
the same V of Exchange? FWIW we moved groups like that to try and mitigate
problems, I like to think it helped a little.

 

From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Send on Behalf error

 

That's pretty typical behavior during a migration.  I've run into that and
an awful lot of others and they're all different.  My first response would
be apologize up and down for the inconvenience and get that migration done
as soon as possible.  Nothing causes friction like a migration, we've had a
number of clients run into this same scenario and put the brakes on the
migration temporarily, thinking the problem would follow into 2010.  All
have felt the pinch of that decision.   Well, hind sight being 20/20 I can
say without a doubt you will be much happier when you have finished.  I
think our smoothest migration to date was for 80,000+ users all done in one
weekend.  Sure there were a few issues but they were all taken care very
quickly in comparison.  

I guess that wasn't really how to fix it, sorry about that, more looking at
the bigger picture.  Get it done then track down the problems when you don't
have a basket of snakes, venomous ones.

 

M 

 

From: Thiessen, Matt [mailto:mthies...@gprc.ab.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Send on Behalf error

 

Hello,

 

I have run into and interesting problem when using outlook 2010 with
exchange 2003. The user has permission to send on behalf of their boss. When
they go into the from field and look up their boss the email gets sent fine.
When they select the same from email address using the dropdown where it
remembers the name the message does not go through. They get a NDR with the
following: 

 

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

 

  Subject:test

  Sent: 5/24/2011 1:50 PM

 

The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:

 

  Lastname, Firstname on 5/24/2011 1:50 PM

You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For
assistance, contact your system administrator.

MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:/DC=ca/DC=ab/DC=gprc:servername

 

I will mention as well that they are running in cache exchange mode on the
client, it is happening to more than just 1 person as well. We are running
in a mixed mode environment with users being migrated over to 2010.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

Matt Thiessen

IT Systems Manager

Grande Prairie Regional College

780-539-2852

 

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