BES question
Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
RE: BES question
Sure. I'm running a BES/X and a BPS server on the same network. BES cares about the SRP and the serial number, and that's all, as far as I can tell. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
RE: BES question
We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
Re: BES question
What? I'm running 5.0 with a 5 user CAL. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
Re: BES question
Thank you all. I needed that reassurance to get this kicked off. Very helpful. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
RE: BES question
Sorry, 5.0.1should have added that, you go right to sp1 you get that, 5.0 does not give you that issue...we did 5.0 in dev/test then upgraded to sp1, but went straight to 5.0.1 when installing in production, that is the error, a built-in they added in sp1 according to our RIM rep. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BES question What? I'm running 5.0 with a 5 user CAL. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
RE: BES question
Blackberry is now free for the most part up too 500 users if i'm not mistaken, I just set it up yesterday , i think only for developers you have to pay. I guess they got with the program and didnt want to keep losing users to WM and or Iphone. Jean-Paul Natola Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:15:13 -0400 Subject: Re: BES question From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com What? I'm running 5.0 with a 5 user CAL. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
RE: BES question
BES - Express that is if you are just dealing with exchange email/contacts/calendar etc.. Jean-Paul Natola From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: BES question Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:29:14 -0400 Blackberry is now free for the most part up too 500 users if i'm not mistaken, I just set it up yesterday , i think only for developers you have to pay. I guess they got with the program and didnt want to keep losing users to WM and or Iphone. Jean-Paul Natola Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:15:13 -0400 Subject: Re: BES question From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com What? I'm running 5.0 with a 5 user CAL. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1
RE: BES Question
And don't forget you can hide the icon on the device, but it's not through policy and any savvy user can get it back again. Just use the Blackberry button (not sure what else to call it!) on the icon, you'll get a popup menu allowing you to select Hide. -Original Message- From: bounce-8391754-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8391754-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Don Andrews Sent: 21 January 2009 19:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question I'd consider sending users who don't like the default browser setting instructions on how to change it. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question Jeff, Thanks for the response. Is there a way to hide the BB browser icon? Then perhaps I could enable both icons, hide the BB browser icon and then set which domains require the BB browser (our internal one only). Would the internet browser then open the hidden BB browser when going to an internal domain? This is the directors pet peeve, hence the effort :( -troy -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question You can change the MDS Browser use Separate Icon policy to TRUE to leave both browsers as an option, they can then use the IBS as needed and access the regular browser for other applications. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES Question BES 4.1.6 on Exchange 2007sp1 ~35 users. We would like to create an IT policy that sets the default browser on the phones to be the IBS or Internet browser rather than the BB browser so that folks are using the EVDO network for internet browsing rather than our local network connection. We would like the BB browser to remain available so people can switch to it and run reports on our local intranet site (only 2-3 folks actually do this) Blackberry support and forum surfing seem to say we can only disable the BB browser, we cant have it active and not be the default browser through policy. The policy choices are not very specific as to what they do, and its hard for me to test little changes because I don't have a BB (of course). Has anyone set this up or have any insight on the IT policies for BES? -Troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
BES Question
BES 4.1.6 on Exchange 2007sp1 ~35 users. We would like to create an IT policy that sets the default browser on the phones to be the IBS or Internet browser rather than the BB browser so that folks are using the EVDO network for internet browsing rather than our local network connection. We would like the BB browser to remain available so people can switch to it and run reports on our local intranet site (only 2-3 folks actually do this) Blackberry support and forum surfing seem to say we can only disable the BB browser, we cant have it active and not be the default browser through policy. The policy choices are not very specific as to what they do, and its hard for me to test little changes because I don't have a BB (of course). Has anyone set this up or have any insight on the IT policies for BES? -Troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES Question
You can change the MDS Browser use Separate Icon policy to TRUE to leave both browsers as an option, they can then use the IBS as needed and access the regular browser for other applications. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES Question BES 4.1.6 on Exchange 2007sp1 ~35 users. We would like to create an IT policy that sets the default browser on the phones to be the IBS or Internet browser rather than the BB browser so that folks are using the EVDO network for internet browsing rather than our local network connection. We would like the BB browser to remain available so people can switch to it and run reports on our local intranet site (only 2-3 folks actually do this) Blackberry support and forum surfing seem to say we can only disable the BB browser, we cant have it active and not be the default browser through policy. The policy choices are not very specific as to what they do, and its hard for me to test little changes because I don't have a BB (of course). Has anyone set this up or have any insight on the IT policies for BES? -Troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES Question
I have not seen that config first hand but there is the MDS browser domains that you should be able to setup to say for that particular domain use the MDS browser, ie your internal browser and not the Internet Browsing Service(IBS). Have not done firsthand but if this does work for you please let me know -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question Jeff, Thanks for the response. Is there a way to hide the BB browser icon? Then perhaps I could enable both icons, hide the BB browser icon and then set which domains require the BB browser (our internal one only). Would the internet browser then open the hidden BB browser when going to an internal domain? This is the directors pet peeve, hence the effort :( -troy -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question You can change the MDS Browser use Separate Icon policy to TRUE to leave both browsers as an option, they can then use the IBS as needed and access the regular browser for other applications. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES Question BES 4.1.6 on Exchange 2007sp1 ~35 users. We would like to create an IT policy that sets the default browser on the phones to be the IBS or Internet browser rather than the BB browser so that folks are using the EVDO network for internet browsing rather than our local network connection. We would like the BB browser to remain available so people can switch to it and run reports on our local intranet site (only 2-3 folks actually do this) Blackberry support and forum surfing seem to say we can only disable the BB browser, we cant have it active and not be the default browser through policy. The policy choices are not very specific as to what they do, and its hard for me to test little changes because I don't have a BB (of course). Has anyone set this up or have any insight on the IT policies for BES? -Troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES Question
I'd consider sending users who don't like the default browser setting instructions on how to change it. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question Jeff, Thanks for the response. Is there a way to hide the BB browser icon? Then perhaps I could enable both icons, hide the BB browser icon and then set which domains require the BB browser (our internal one only). Would the internet browser then open the hidden BB browser when going to an internal domain? This is the directors pet peeve, hence the effort :( -troy -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Question You can change the MDS Browser use Separate Icon policy to TRUE to leave both browsers as an option, they can then use the IBS as needed and access the regular browser for other applications. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES Question BES 4.1.6 on Exchange 2007sp1 ~35 users. We would like to create an IT policy that sets the default browser on the phones to be the IBS or Internet browser rather than the BB browser so that folks are using the EVDO network for internet browsing rather than our local network connection. We would like the BB browser to remain available so people can switch to it and run reports on our local intranet site (only 2-3 folks actually do this) Blackberry support and forum surfing seem to say we can only disable the BB browser, we cant have it active and not be the default browser through policy. The policy choices are not very specific as to what they do, and its hard for me to test little changes because I don't have a BB (of course). Has anyone set this up or have any insight on the IT policies for BES? -Troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
