RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Young, Darren
We have a 20MB attachment limit and an Accellion FTA to securely transfer files 
larger than that. Biggest problem: MIME overhead. People say "you said it's 
20MB but it won't go through". So, we have to explain that depending on the 
type of file even an 18MB Excel might surpass 20MB with MIME overhead.

We have 2GB mailbox quota limits.

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause much of
> a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone is trying to
> send/receive a file that's too big.
> 
> There were two main reasons for the limit.
> 
> One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for transferring 
> files, so
> big files should be transferred some other way. But in this day and age, is 10
> MB considered "big" anymore?
> 
> The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes quickly, 
> and our
> users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I don't too often hear
> complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think users aren't
> sending/receiving files of that size very often anyway--so the mailbox size
> may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment size limit.
> 
> I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking for
> general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> 
> 
> 
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> 
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
30MB Limit with a Biscom transfer appliance and AD policies that send anything 
larger through it automatically, no mailbox limits.

-Original Message-
From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

We have a 20MB attachment limit and an Accellion FTA to securely transfer files 
larger than that. Biggest problem: MIME overhead. People say "you said it's 
20MB but it won't go through". So, we have to explain that depending on the 
type of file even an 18MB Excel might surpass 20MB with MIME overhead.

We have 2GB mailbox quota limits.

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was 
> wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause 
> much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone 
> is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> 
> There were two main reasons for the limit.
> 
> One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for 
> transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way. 
> But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> 
> The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes 
> quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I 
> don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think 
> users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often 
> anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment 
> size limit.
> 
> I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking 
> for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> 
> 
> 
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> 
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Young, Darren
How are you implementing the AD policy that automatically sends through it?

> -Original Message-
> From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> 30MB Limit with a Biscom transfer appliance and AD policies that send
> anything larger through it automatically, no mailbox limits.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:40 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> We have a 20MB attachment limit and an Accellion FTA to securely transfer
> files larger than that. Biggest problem: MIME overhead. People say "you said
> it's 20MB but it won't go through". So, we have to explain that depending on
> the type of file even an 18MB Excel might surpass 20MB with MIME
> overhead.
> 
> We have 2GB mailbox quota limits.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> > wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
> > much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
> > is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> >
> > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> >
> > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> >
> > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
> attachment size limit.
> >
> > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
> > for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
Requires the BDS Outlook plugin and their API kit, then you push a setting for 
Outlook and BDS that forces attachments to use the plugin when they are larger 
than 30MB

-Original Message-
From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

How are you implementing the AD policy that automatically sends through it?

> -Original Message-
> From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> 30MB Limit with a Biscom transfer appliance and AD policies that send 
> anything larger through it automatically, no mailbox limits.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:40 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> We have a 20MB attachment limit and an Accellion FTA to securely 
> transfer files larger than that. Biggest problem: MIME overhead. 
> People say "you said it's 20MB but it won't go through". So, we have 
> to explain that depending on the type of file even an 18MB Excel might 
> surpass 20MB with MIME overhead.
> 
> We have 2GB mailbox quota limits.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I 
> > was wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to 
> > cause much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where 
> > someone is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> >
> > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> >
> > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for 
> > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> >
> > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes 
> > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I 
> > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think 
> > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often 
> > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
> attachment size limit.
> >
> > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm 
> > looking for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Hutchings
We use 20mb with an Accellion for anything over that.

Whatever you set it to at some point it won't be enough so there is no right 
answer.


From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: 08 September 2011 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was wondering 
if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause much of a problem, 
but periodically we have a situation where someone is trying to send/receive a 
file that's too big.

There were two main reasons for the limit.

One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for transferring 
files, so big files should be transferred some other way. But in this day and 
age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?

The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes quickly, and 
our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I don't too often hear 
complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think users aren't sending/receiving 
files of that size very often anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem 
if I bump up the attachment size limit.

I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking for 
general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Kevin Lundy
I have an Accellion as well.  Although we didn't implement it, I believe the
Accellion plugin will do the same.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Garcia-Moran, Carlos <
cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com> wrote:

> Requires the BDS Outlook plugin and their API kit, then you push a setting
> for Outlook and BDS that forces attachments to use the plugin when they are
> larger than 30MB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:58 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>
> How are you implementing the AD policy that automatically sends through it?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:56 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > 30MB Limit with a Biscom transfer appliance and AD policies that send
> > anything larger through it automatically, no mailbox limits.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:40 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > We have a 20MB attachment limit and an Accellion FTA to securely
> > transfer files larger than that. Biggest problem: MIME overhead.
> > People say "you said it's 20MB but it won't go through". So, we have
> > to explain that depending on the type of file even an 18MB Excel might
> > surpass 20MB with MIME overhead.
> >
> > We have 2GB mailbox quota limits.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> > >
> > > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I
> > > was wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to
> > > cause much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where
> > > someone is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> > >
> > > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> > >
> > > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> > > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> > >
> > > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> > > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> > > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> > > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> > > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
> > attachment size limit.
> > >
> > > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm
> > > looking for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the
> limit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > > MIS Department
> > > Taylor County School District
> > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> > >
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul
20MB attachment limits.  We may have to bow under pressure and
reconsider when we complete the migration to 2010.
We strongly encourage sftp though.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone is
trying to send/receive a file that's too big.

There were two main reasons for the limit.

One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?

The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often anyway--so
the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment size
limit.

I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-08 Thread Don Andrews
10 meg message size limit (as opposed to attachment size) and a secure transfer 
system.

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

20MB attachment limits.  We may have to bow under pressure and
reconsider when we complete the migration to 2010.
We strongly encourage sftp though.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone is
trying to send/receive a file that's too big.

There were two main reasons for the limit.

One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?

The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often anyway--so
the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment size
limit.

I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread John Hornbuckle
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit, and 
also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it.



John


> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> 
> We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was 
> wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause 
> much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone 
> is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> 
> There were two main reasons for the limit.
> 
> One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for 
> transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way. 
> But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> 
> The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes 
> quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I 
> don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think 
> users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often 
> anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment 
> size limit.
> 
> I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking 
> for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> 
> 
> 
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> 
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Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread Jonathan Link
Coming to this late, I'd bump the send limit to probably 20 MB.
I'd remove the receive limit entirely.  But this is based on our industry.
People send us huge documents all the time.  We avoid having limits to deal
with them.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit,
> and also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> > wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
> > much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
> > is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> >
> > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> >
> > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> >
> > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
> attachment size limit.
> >
> > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
> > for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
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Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread Mike O'Toole


Doesn't the recipient have the last word on size? A user would like to send a 
20mb file to say AOL.com but AOL's 3 mb limit would reject it. No change on 
your end can fix the recipients limit.  

Mike  

- Message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com - 
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:38:12 -0400
From: Jonathan Link 
Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  

> Coming to this late, I'd bump the send limit to probably 20 MB.  
> I'd remove the receive limit entirely.  But this is based on our industry.  
> People send us huge documents all the time.  We avoid having limits to deal 
> with them. 
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Hornbuckle 
>  wrote: 
>
>
> > Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit, 
> > and also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it. 
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> > >
> > > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> > > wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
> > > much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
> > > is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> > >
> > > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> > >
> > > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> > > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> > >
> > > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> > > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> > > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> > > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> > > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the 
> > > attachment size limit.
> > >
> > > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
> > > for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > > MIS Department
> > > Taylor County School District
> > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us[1]
> > >
> > >
> > - End message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com -



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Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread Jonathan Link
Yes.  Generally we're the recipient, though.  In the case of sending, I've
been told that the limit on sending (on our end is too onerous) so I just
opened that up, too.  9 times out of ten they get the notification that the
recipient has rejected it due to the size.  But that moves it to something
outside my control, and they know this.



On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mike O'Toole  wrote:

> Doesn't the recipient have the last word on size? A user would like to send
> a 20mb file to say AOL.com but AOL's 3 mb limit would reject it. No change
> on your end can fix the recipients limit.
>
> Mike
>
> - Message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com -
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:38:12 -0400
> From: Jonathan Link 
> Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <
> exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Subject: Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <
> exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>
> Coming to this late, I'd bump the send limit to probably 20 MB.
> I'd remove the receive limit entirely.  But this is based on our industry.
> People send us huge documents all the time.  We avoid having limits to deal
> with them.
>
>  On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit,
>> and also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
>> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>> >
>> > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
>> > wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
>> > much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
>> > is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
>> >
>> > There were two main reasons for the limit.
>> >
>> > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
>> > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
>> > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
>> >
>> > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
>> > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
>> > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
>> > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
>> > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
>> attachment size limit.
>> >
>> > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
>> > for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>> > MIS Department
>> > Taylor County School District
>> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>> >
>> >
>> - End message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com -
>>
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RE: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread Robert Peterson
I thought about allowing a much larger limit for outside destined email, but I 
was concerned about our users keeping the "SENT ITEM" copy and our mail stores 
growing ridiculously in size anyway.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

Yes.  Generally we're the recipient, though.  In the case of sending, I've been 
told that the limit on sending (on our end is too onerous) so I just opened 
that up, too.  9 times out of ten they get the notification that the recipient 
has rejected it due to the size.  But that moves it to something outside my 
control, and they know this.



On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mike O'Toole 
mailto:m...@risingwoods.org>> wrote:

Doesn't the recipient have the last word on size? A user would like to send a 
20mb file to say AOL.com but AOL's 3 mb limit would reject it. No change on 
your end can fix the recipients limit.

Mike

- Message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com> 
-
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:38:12 -0400
From: Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Coming to this late, I'd bump the send limit to probably 20 MB.
I'd remove the receive limit entirely.  But this is based on our industry.  
People send us huge documents all the time.  We avoid having limits to deal 
with them.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Hornbuckle 
mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit, and 
also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it.



John


> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle 
> [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>
> We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
> much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
> is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
>
> There were two main reasons for the limit.
>
> One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
>
> The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the attachment 
> size limit.
>
> I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
> for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>
>
>
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Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits

2011-09-09 Thread Jonathan Link
Mailbox limits generally prevent that in our org.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Robert Peterson wrote:

>  I thought about allowing a much larger limit for outside destined email,
> but I was concerned about our users keeping the “SENT ITEM” copy and our
> mail stores growing ridiculously in size anyway.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2011 11:04 AM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>
>  ** **
>
> Yes.  Generally we're the recipient, though.  In the case of sending, I've
> been told that the limit on sending (on our end is too onerous) so I just
> opened that up, too.  9 times out of ten they get the notification that the
> recipient has rejected it due to the size.  But that moves it to something
> outside my control, and they know this.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mike O'Toole 
> wrote:
>
> Doesn't the recipient have the last word on size? A user would like to send
> a 20mb file to say AOL.com but AOL's 3 mb limit would reject it. No change
> on your end can fix the recipients limit. 
>
> Mike 
>
> - Message from jonathan.l...@gmail.com -
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:38:12 -0400
> From: Jonathan Link 
> Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <
> exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Subject: Re: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <
> exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> 
>
>   Coming to this late, I'd bump the send limit to probably 20 MB. 
>
> I'd remove the receive limit entirely.  But this is based on our industry.
> People send us huge documents all the time.  We avoid having limits to deal
> with them. 
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: 
>
>  Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I think I may bump the limit up a bit,
> and also look into Accellion since several of you mentioned it.
>
>
>
> John 
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:35 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Best Practices for Attachment Size Limits
> >
> > We have the standard 10-meg attachment size limit in place, and I was
> > wondering if we should reconsider. It actually doesn't seem to cause
> > much of a problem, but periodically we have a situation where someone
> > is trying to send/receive a file that's too big.
> >
> > There were two main reasons for the limit.
> >
> > One is that e-mail isn't a particularly efficient method for
> > transferring files, so big files should be transferred some other way.
> > But in this day and age, is 10 MB considered "big" anymore?
> >
> > The second reason is that big files will fill up users' mailboxes
> > quickly, and our users have 250 MB quotas. Although the fact that I
> > don't too often hear complaints about the 10 MB limit makes me think
> > users aren't sending/receiving files of that size very often
> > anyway--so the mailbox size may not be a problem if I bump up the
> attachment size limit.
> >
> > I know situations vary from enterprise to enterprise, but I'm looking
> > for general best practices and pros/cons to increasing the limit.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
> > 
>
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