Re: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question.
I can think of a couple of possible suggestions... First, could you not split the data up and NOT backup all that (largely static, unchanged?) data every time?... Implement exchange archiving, give all users an archive mailbox on a different server, and have an arching policy that moves items to the archive automatically after x months... Then backup the archives with a separate backup job, that can run concurrently with the main job, thus reducing the overall backup window required, and, you can backup the archives on a less frequent schedule... The main mailboxes will then shrink hugely, thus reducing your backup overhead there... Secondly, I'd think about maintaining an additional, LAGGED copy of the databases... The issue with going backupless and relying purely on replication for your data security is that a logical corruption will replicate to all your copies just like any other data would... (exchange won't replicate corrupted log files) but say a virus gets into an email and wreaks havoc amongst your databases... A lagged copy gives you time to detect and respond to any such problems before that copy of the data becomes similarly damaged... You can of course do both of the above... They're not mutually exclusive... You could, if you are concerned enough, (and wealthy enough!) have multiple lagged database replicas with different delays on them... Copies can be lagged up to a maximum of 14 days IIRC... So you could for example have a 24 hour lagged copy, and then say a 7 day lagged copy as well... You can have as many lagged copies as you like, subject to the DAG design rules of 16 databases maximum in the DAG. Hth Paul g Sent from my iPad On 3 Feb 2012, at 18:18, Anthony Goraczko anth...@fiu.edu wrote: We are pretty much in the same boat. We have had very bad results with Tivoli and 2010 (YMMV; 2007 was fine), so we are looking to move to MS DPM for backup purposes. So far, the plan is to mirror a local copy of the DPM data to our DR site and hopefully that will meet the off-site backup requirement we have. We currently use Iron Mountain as well, so if that doesn't work out, hopefully we can leverage Iron Mountain's CloudRecovery for long-term off-site backup, which integrates with DPM. --Anthony Anthony Goraczko University Technology Services Division of Information Technology Florida International University https://mysites.fiu.edu/sites/anthony/ From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [pfeff...@ucmail.uc.edu] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question. We are in the process of finalizing our Exchange 2010 deployment. We will be setting up Database Availability Groups for replication to two sites. The current 2007 deployment is over 4 terabytes in size and we anticipate that growing substantially since we are going from 2 gig quotas to 10 gig quotas right off the bat. We currently use Tivoli to backup information using lanfree backups and then those backups get written to tape. Backup times are going 8 to 10 hours at times for full backups. For 2010 we would like to go tapeless and just use replication, but we are getting pushback from upper management on this and the requirement to dump data to tape for offsite storage seems to be a pressing issue. My question is with 2010 what other backup solutions are available for the amount of data we are speaking about. If push comes to shove I would like to at least give upper management a few options so they get the warm/fuzzy and costs associated to the solutions. We would like to create a third site off campus and replicate data to the third site as well for DR purposes and possibly make that a lag copy. Management has the mindset that they would like data dumped to physical media that could then be sent to Iron Mountain which is where our mainframe tapes go for storage. If we lose both sites on campus…bring back the media….then rebuild. Sorry if this has been hashed through before. Pete Pfefferkorn University of Cincinnati Information Technology Services Operating Systems Analyst/Messaging Administrator Phone: (513) 556-9076 Fax: (513) 556-2042 Email: pete.pfefferk...@uc.edu --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question.
We are pretty much in the same boat. We have had very bad results with Tivoli and 2010 (YMMV; 2007 was fine), so we are looking to move to MS DPM for backup purposes. So far, the plan is to mirror a local copy of the DPM data to our DR site and hopefully that will meet the off-site backup requirement we have. We currently use Iron Mountain as well, so if that doesn't work out, hopefully we can leverage Iron Mountain's CloudRecovery for long-term off-site backup, which integrates with DPM. --Anthony Anthony Goraczko University Technology Services Division of Information Technology Florida International University https://mysites.fiu.edu/sites/anthony/ From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [pfeff...@ucmail.uc.edu] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question. We are in the process of finalizing our Exchange 2010 deployment. We will be setting up Database Availability Groups for replication to two sites. The current 2007 deployment is over 4 terabytes in size and we anticipate that growing substantially since we are going from 2 gig quotas to 10 gig quotas right off the bat. We currently use Tivoli to backup information using lanfree backups and then those backups get written to tape. Backup times are going 8 to 10 hours at times for full backups. For 2010 we would like to go tapeless and just use replication, but we are getting pushback from upper management on this and the requirement to dump data to tape for offsite storage seems to be a pressing issue. My question is with 2010 what other backup solutions are available for the amount of data we are speaking about. If push comes to shove I would like to at least give upper management a few options so they get the warm/fuzzy and costs associated to the solutions. We would like to create a third site off campus and replicate data to the third site as well for DR purposes and possibly make that a lag copy. Management has the mindset that they would like data dumped to physical media that could then be sent to Iron Mountain which is where our mainframe tapes go for storage. If we lose both sites on campus…bring back the media….then rebuild. Sorry if this has been hashed through before. Pete Pfefferkorn University of Cincinnati Information Technology Services Operating Systems Analyst/Messaging Administrator Phone: (513) 556-9076 Fax: (513) 556-2042 Email: pete.pfefferk...@uc.edumailto:pete.pfefferk...@uc.edu --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question.
The total amount of data is pretty irrelevant actually. It's more about how many passive copies you have, how large individual databases are, and where you have to store them. I have a graduate school as a client that has about 2 TB of data, spread out over a dozen databases with two passive copies. I back up the passive copies to DAS and then compress them to NAS. I keep 30 days and then delete. It works well for them. I've got many other clients using DPM and various Symantec solutions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:pfeff...@ucmail.uc.edu] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup/DAGs question. We are in the process of finalizing our Exchange 2010 deployment. We will be setting up Database Availability Groups for replication to two sites. The current 2007 deployment is over 4 terabytes in size and we anticipate that growing substantially since we are going from 2 gig quotas to 10 gig quotas right off the bat. We currently use Tivoli to backup information using lanfree backups and then those backups get written to tape. Backup times are going 8 to 10 hours at times for full backups. For 2010 we would like to go tapeless and just use replication, but we are getting pushback from upper management on this and the requirement to dump data to tape for offsite storage seems to be a pressing issue. My question is with 2010 what other backup solutions are available for the amount of data we are speaking about. If push comes to shove I would like to at least give upper management a few options so they get the warm/fuzzy and costs associated to the solutions. We would like to create a third site off campus and replicate data to the third site as well for DR purposes and possibly make that a lag copy. Management has the mindset that they would like data dumped to physical media that could then be sent to Iron Mountain which is where our mainframe tapes go for storage. If we lose both sites on campus...bring back the mediathen rebuild. Sorry if this has been hashed through before. Pete Pfefferkorn University of Cincinnati Information Technology Services Operating Systems Analyst/Messaging Administrator Phone: (513) 556-9076 Fax: (513) 556-2042 Email: pete.pfefferk...@uc.edumailto:pete.pfefferk...@uc.edu --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 backup using native tools
Thanks Michael. I wonder why I didn't see that in any documentation that I read. Mark From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 backup using native tools You have to add -vssfull and put the path to the log files in the -include parameter. So Wbadmin start backup -vssfull -include:d:,c:\program files\microsoft\exchange server\v14\mailbox\ Depending on how you are calling wbadmin, that might take some fancy quoting to get right. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup using native tools My google fu isn't working well today. Exchange 2010 on Windows 2008 R2. Drive C: System drive, and E2k transaction logs (in c:\program files\microsoft\exchange server\v14\mailbox\x (where x is the mailbox name)). Drive D: EDB files When I do a full backup (I use command line wbadmin with -include c:,d: ) the files all get backed up, transaction logs are truncated, and everything appears to work as expected. This runs weekly. I'm trying to do a daily full backup of just the EDB files, which will also truncate the log files. If I run wbadmin with -include d:, it just backs up the EDB files, and does nothing with the transaction log files. Should I move the transaction log files to d:? Would that fix my problem? I don't think we get enough traffic through Exchange for this option to be a performance problem. There is lots of space on D:, so that's not an issue either. Is there another alternative (not using 3rd party backup solutions)? Thanks in advance. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edumailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.eduhttp://www.prairie.edu/ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 backup using native tools
You have to add -vssfull and put the path to the log files in the -include parameter. So Wbadmin start backup -vssfull -include:d:,c:\program files\microsoft\exchange server\v14\mailbox\ Depending on how you are calling wbadmin, that might take some fancy quoting to get right. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup using native tools My google fu isn't working well today. Exchange 2010 on Windows 2008 R2. Drive C: System drive, and E2k transaction logs (in c:\program files\microsoft\exchange server\v14\mailbox\x (where x is the mailbox name)). Drive D: EDB files When I do a full backup (I use command line wbadmin with -include c:,d: ) the files all get backed up, transaction logs are truncated, and everything appears to work as expected. This runs weekly. I'm trying to do a daily full backup of just the EDB files, which will also truncate the log files. If I run wbadmin with -include d:, it just backs up the EDB files, and does nothing with the transaction log files. Should I move the transaction log files to d:? Would that fix my problem? I don't think we get enough traffic through Exchange for this option to be a performance problem. There is lots of space on D:, so that's not an issue either. Is there another alternative (not using 3rd party backup solutions)? Thanks in advance. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edumailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.eduhttp://www.prairie.edu/ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 backup.
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RE: Exchange 2010 backup.
We have moved to Veeam for vmware installations (I guess HyperV is coming soon) , and for on-premise hardware setups we are using Arca/BDR units, which is just Shadow Protect with Ontracks Recovery piece tied into it for the most part. The largest client we manage is @ 1.2TB with 6 Exchange DB's , we moved from BEX 2010, to Veeam onto a Data Domain De-Dupe unit and haven't looked back. With 13 databases it sounds like your much larger than that, so the usual YMMV applies :) From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 backup. DPM 2010 - http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/en/us/data-protection-manager.aspx /returns to lurking From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: 24 May 2011 07:49 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 backup. Hi All, A big thank you to the forum! I transitioned my Exchange to 2010 from 2007 without any issues with the help of the forum. I am looking for a backup solution for my Exchange 2010. What are my options? I have 13 database. Right now I am using Windows 2008 R2 SP1 Windows Server Backup. I understand WSB cannot be used with tape drive. I have read a comment on some other forum by Mike that it may backup only the first database. In exchange 2007 I was using BackupExec 12. But the price for BackupExec 2010 is prohibitive. Regards Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. [cid:image001.gif@01CC1A2F.5FEE4E60]http://www.freebridge.org.uk [cid:image002.gif@01CC1A2F.5FEE4E60]http://twitter.com/Freebridge [cid:image003.gif@01CC1A2F.5FEE4E60]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Community-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Housing Corporation - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.gifinline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Valid enough. So, create a file backup, and then Robocopy . \\.\tape0\ filename-of-backup Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. But you can't backup to tape library with windows server backup, right? That sort of sucks. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: There is nothing wrong with Windows Server Backup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. Approximately eight years ago, I used what is now Barracuda's Yosemite Server Backup product to successfully backup Exchange servers. It worked pretty well, and was much cheaper than Backup Exec. It's been so long that I cannot vouch for the current quality, but today's price would appear to be $400 - $700, depending on which flavor you can get away with. http://www.barracudaware.com/products/server-backup/products The variant I was using back then was actually a rebranded product called NovaNet, from NovaStor. I am pretty sure their current offerings are a different codebase now, but their prices are even cheaper. http://www.novastor.com/software/sql-exchange-backup.php Obviously, you will want to test either option heavily before depending on it. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Valid enough. So, create a file backup, and then Robocopy . \\.\tape0\ filename-of-backup Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. But you can't backup to tape library with windows server backup, right? That sort of sucks. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: There is nothing wrong with Windows Server Backup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. Approximately eight years ago, I used what is now Barracuda's Yosemite Server Backup product to successfully backup Exchange servers. It worked pretty well, and was much cheaper than Backup Exec. It's been so long that I cannot vouch for the current quality, but today's price would appear to be $400 - $700, depending on which flavor you can get away with. http://www.barracudaware.com/products/server-backup/products The variant I was using back then was actually a rebranded product called NovaNet, from NovaStor. I am pretty sure their current offerings are a different codebase now, but their prices are even cheaper. http://www.novastor.com/software/sql-exchange-backup.php Obviously, you will want to test either option heavily before depending on it. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
But you can't backup to tape library with windows server backup, right? That sort of sucks. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: There is nothing wrong with Windows Server Backup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. Approximately eight years ago, I used what is now Barracuda's Yosemite Server Backup product to successfully backup Exchange servers. It worked pretty well, and was much cheaper than Backup Exec. It's been so long that I cannot vouch for the current quality, but today's price would appear to be $400 - $700, depending on which flavor you can get away with. http://www.barracudaware.com/products/server-backup/products The variant I was using back then was actually a rebranded product called NovaNet, from NovaStor. I am pretty sure their current offerings are a different codebase now, but their prices are even cheaper. http://www.novastor.com/software/sql-exchange-backup.php Obviously, you will want to test either option heavily before depending on it. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
1. Take a look at this
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2. EPM is replacing our DigiVault product at end of this month or
sooner
3. Pricing is great as well
http://www.lucid8.com/pricing/pricelist_EPM.asp
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Have you looked at DPM?
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for
exchange 2010.
I saw acronis for exchange is that any good?
My budget is 600 max on the software.
thanks
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RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Why have backups at all?? From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. thanks -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Why have backups at all?? 30 users? I'm guessing he doesn't have 3 replicated databases with 1 being lagged. (or whatever the minimum requirements were to eliminate backups). You'll end up spending a tad over $600 to get this going. And by tad, I mean a ton. -Sam From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Why have backups at all?? From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. thanks -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
Can't you just use Windows 2008 server backup software? It will only do the whole database/store, but the price is right. Exchange has as plugin built in for this. Windows 2008 Server backup is a feature you need to install, but it's there. Mark From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. thanks -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. Approximately eight years ago, I used what is now Barracuda's Yosemite Server Backup product to successfully backup Exchange servers. It worked pretty well, and was much cheaper than Backup Exec. It's been so long that I cannot vouch for the current quality, but today's price would appear to be $400 - $700, depending on which flavor you can get away with. http://www.barracudaware.com/products/server-backup/products The variant I was using back then was actually a rebranded product called NovaNet, from NovaStor. I am pretty sure their current offerings are a different codebase now, but their prices are even cheaper. http://www.novastor.com/software/sql-exchange-backup.php Obviously, you will want to test either option heavily before depending on it. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
I have 2 small sites I look after like this, given both have non mission critical needs and are price sensitive, I have circular logging enabled [1] and manually perform a VSS snap every night and rsync the data offsite from the exposed snap. The servers remain up and operational 24/7 and I replicate only the delta from a reliable copy. Works well, MBS has example code on his site... jlc [1] If I ever figure out how to manually trigger a log flush, I'll stop the circular logging... From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. thanks -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
A VSS snap that completes successfully (code on my blog! :) ) will flush log files. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution. I have 2 small sites I look after like this, given both have non mission critical needs and are price sensitive, I have circular logging enabled [1] and manually perform a VSS snap every night and rsync the data offsite from the exposed snap. The servers remain up and operational 24/7 and I replicate only the delta from a reliable copy. Works well, MBS has example code on his site... jlc [1] If I ever figure out how to manually trigger a log flush, I'll stop the circular logging... From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010: backup solution. Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. thanks -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010: backup solution.
There is nothing wrong with Windows Server Backup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010: backup solution. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Beside backupexec, any other 30 user mailbox backup soultion for exchange 2010. I saw acronis for exchange is that any good? My budget is 600 max on the software. Approximately eight years ago, I used what is now Barracuda's Yosemite Server Backup product to successfully backup Exchange servers. It worked pretty well, and was much cheaper than Backup Exec. It's been so long that I cannot vouch for the current quality, but today's price would appear to be $400 - $700, depending on which flavor you can get away with. http://www.barracudaware.com/products/server-backup/products The variant I was using back then was actually a rebranded product called NovaNet, from NovaStor. I am pretty sure their current offerings are a different codebase now, but their prices are even cheaper. http://www.novastor.com/software/sql-exchange-backup.php Obviously, you will want to test either option heavily before depending on it. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
