RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-12 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
Hi Daniel,

Just some additional points to keep in mind. Ninja is
tightly integrated with Exchange. That does have a few
advantages, first of all you are able to create a spam
mailbox right in Outlook and all spam gets filtered right
in that box with the major advantage your users do not
have to go somewhere else (web-interface) to check
on quarantined email. Second, they can create their
own allow- and blocklists, so determine what should
go through. All this was done to keep your admin time
to a minimum - actually half compared to other product. 
And that is worth something. See this white paper by 
Osterman that explains the benefits:

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/documents/ninja-email-security-comparing-
email-management-systems-that-protect-against-spam-viruses-malware-phish
ing-attacks.pdf

TinyUrl:
http://tinyurl.com/dj5d5r

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into
Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone.
If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and
put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the
linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain
in the ass.

Daniel


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


..

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Wright
How many users?

   

Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_  

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote:
 All this assumes of course that your time is free.

  Having deployed MX Logic within the past year, I can assure you that
payware products and services involve lots of time, too.

-- Ben

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Rick Corgiat
www.untangle.com

The basic setup is free. It does spam filtering, content filtering,
malware protection...
If you opt for the monthly subscription there are add-ons like AD
integration and so on...
It runs on a fairly small PC - depending on the amount of users.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

How many users?

   

Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_  

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~






~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles

First thing first when it comes to questions like this is.. what is the budget 
looking like for implementing this product?  There are plenty of options out 
there, you just need to find which one fits within your budget and addresses 
the functionality you're looking for.

 _
John Bowles



- Original Message 
From: Rick Corgiat rcorg...@techworksnet.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:30:15 AM
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

www.untangle.com

The basic setup is free. It does spam filtering, content filtering,
malware protection...
If you opt for the monthly subscription there are add-ons like AD
integration and so on...
It runs on a fairly small PC - depending on the amount of users.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

How many users?

  

Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_  

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~






~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



  


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
+1

Assp is great, even if the main developer is a bit of an ass.


...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:23 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam
 
 There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
 server
 and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on
 it
 or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that
 of
 which there are lots of how to's.
 
 By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.
 
 jlc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam
 
 Hey,
 
 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Daniel
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
Anything that has lots of configurable options is going to take time to learn 
how to use, free or not.


���Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:09 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Filtering Spam
 
 All this assumes of course that your time is free.
 
 -
 Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam
 
 There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
 server
 and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on
 it
 or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that
 of
 which there are lots of how to's.
 
 By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.
 
 jlc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam
 
 Hey,
 
 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Daniel
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Randal, Phil
And, does it have to run on the same box as the Exchange server, or on
another box?

Are non-Windows solutions acceptable?

I heartily recommend MailScanner (http://www.mailscanner.info), which we
have running on a couple of CentOS 5 boxes.

Cheers,

Phil

--
Phil Randal | Networks Engineer
Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T.
Services Division
Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT
Tel: 01432 260160
email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk

Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of
the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council.

This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
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is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please
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-Original Message-
From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2009 13:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam


First thing first when it comes to questions like this is.. what is the
budget looking like for implementing this product?  There are plenty of
options out there, you just need to find which one fits within your
budget and addresses the functionality you're looking for.

 _
John Bowles



- Original Message 
From: Rick Corgiat rcorg...@techworksnet.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:30:15 AM
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

www.untangle.com

The basic setup is free. It does spam filtering, content filtering,
malware protection...
If you opt for the monthly subscription there are add-ons like AD
integration and so on...
It runs on a fairly small PC - depending on the amount of users.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

How many users?

  

Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_  

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~






~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



  


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
*ahem*

good open-source/free product

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ninja rocks!

 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Daniel Hood dsmh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey,

 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.

 Ideas?

 Daniel

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
+1 on ASSP.

Just try not to deal with the developer directly. Thankfully there are
plenty of other good ppl associated with the project.

--
ME2



On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote:
 +1

 Assp is great, even if the main developer is a bit of an ass.


 ...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:23 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

 There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
 server
 and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on
 it
 or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that
 of
 which there are lots of how to's.

 By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

 jlc

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam

 Hey,

 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.

 Ideas?

 Daniel

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~


 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
We use a combination of Amavisd, Clamd and PostFix on our mail servers at
our colo facility to scan for virus first, then spam before the mail is
routed to our Exchange server internally.  We use Centos as our flavor of
*nix on these servers.  As with most *nix solutions, free except for the
time to learn/configure, but it does work very well.

When we implemented this a couple of years ago, we actually got phone calls
and emails from users thanking us for whatever it was that we did because
they weren't getting spam anymore.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Randal, Phil
pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukwrote:

 And, does it have to run on the same box as the Exchange server, or on
 another box?

 Are non-Windows solutions acceptable?

 I heartily recommend MailScanner (http://www.mailscanner.info), which we
 have running on a couple of CentOS 5 boxes.

 Cheers,

 Phil

 --
 Phil Randal | Networks Engineer
 Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T.
 Services Division
 Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT
 Tel: 01432 260160
 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk

 Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of
 the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council.

 This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
 for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material
 protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended
 recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that
 any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail
 is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please
 contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: 11 March 2009 13:41
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Filtering Spam


 First thing first when it comes to questions like this is.. what is the
 budget looking like for implementing this product?  There are plenty of
 options out there, you just need to find which one fits within your
 budget and addresses the functionality you're looking for.

  _
 John Bowles



 - Original Message 
 From: Rick Corgiat rcorg...@techworksnet.com
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:30:15 AM
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

 www.untangle.com

 The basic setup is free. It does spam filtering, content filtering,
 malware protection...
 If you opt for the monthly subscription there are add-ons like AD
 integration and so on...
 It runs on a fairly small PC - depending on the amount of users.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

 How many users?



 Roger Wright
 Network Administrator
 Evatone, Inc.
 727.572.7076  x388
 _

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam

 Hey,

 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.

 Ideas?

 Daniel

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~






 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~






 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself?

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange server
and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on it
or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of
which there are lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Sam Cayze
install Perl on the exchange server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup
a Linux based MTA and install assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new

I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to
many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next,
Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja.  

I don't think it's a open vs. closed source argument. 



-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself?

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install
assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of which there are
lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
No, I didn't mean to imply that.  You still have IP addresses, default 
gateways, DNS etc. etc.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed Mar 11 10:25:29 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself?

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange server
and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on it
or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of
which there are lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
+1

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed Mar 11 10:35:22 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

install Perl on the exchange server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup
a Linux based MTA and install assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new

I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to
many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next,
Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja.  

I don't think it's a open vs. closed source argument. 



-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself?

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install
assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of which there are
lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
FWIW,
I would never install Perl on my Exchange server either :) I like to
keep critical boxes Vanilla.

But trust me, unless you haven't any Linux experience, it's no different
than low level administering of windows servers and apps. Community help
around Postfix, CentOS and sa is pretty freaking good!

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

install Perl on the exchange server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup
a Linux based MTA and install assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new

I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to
many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next,
Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja.  

I don't think it's a open vs. closed source argument. 



-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself?

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange
server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install
assp on it or something like
postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of which there are
lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote:
 I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to
 many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next,
 Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja.

  I haven't used Ninja, but I've never seen *any* non-trivial product
that was as easy as clicking Next, Next, Next, Finish.  Well, I've
seen lots of people who *think* that's how it works.  When I was
consulting, I was often called in to clean up the mess that sort of
person left behind.

  This is not to say that free or Free software is always a good
solution.  Certainly, if it's a Unix-based solution and one has zero
Unix experience, there's going to be a significant learning curve,
same as with any new OS platform.  Just that saying X is only free if
your time is worthless is misleading, because, e.g., Windows Server
is only $800/box if your time is worthless, too.  :)

-- Ben

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Hood
Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into
Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone.
If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and
put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the
linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain
in the ass.

Daniel


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
Ok, I'll consider myself suitably chastised for using the word worthless
- oh, that's right, I DID NOT use that word - unless of course worthless
is a synonym for free - in which case, I'm not sure I'd consider using
worthless software.

Seriously, I only meant to indicate that a collection of free software
like what was mentioned would likely take more (likely far more)
setup/tuning time than a purchased system and that the
installer/admin/support person's time makes it not exactly free.

One of the great things about this list is (I think) the opportunity to
agree to disagree.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com
wrote:
 I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare
to
 many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next,
 Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja.

  I haven't used Ninja, but I've never seen *any* non-trivial product
that was as easy as clicking Next, Next, Next, Finish.  Well, I've
seen lots of people who *think* that's how it works.  When I was
consulting, I was often called in to clean up the mess that sort of
person left behind.

  This is not to say that free or Free software is always a good
solution.  Certainly, if it's a Unix-based solution and one has zero
Unix experience, there's going to be a significant learning curve,
same as with any new OS platform.  Just that saying X is only free if
your time is worthless is misleading, because, e.g., Windows Server
is only $800/box if your time is worthless, too.  :)

-- Ben

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Untangle is a Linux box snicker.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into
Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone.
If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and
put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the
linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain
in the ass.

Daniel


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Hood
Clearly I am stupid and have no read up about any of this software yet :-P

Can I ask peoples opinion on using Spam Assassin vs. Ninja (he-ya!)

Daniel

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 Untangle is a Linux box snicker.

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Filtering Spam

 Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into
 Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone.
 If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and
 put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the
 linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain
 in the ass.

 Daniel


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam

 Hey,

 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.

 Ideas?

 Daniel

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
And assp will run on Windows too. :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:31 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam
 
 Untangle is a Linux box snicker.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Filtering Spam
 
 Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into
 Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone.
 If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and
 put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the
 linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain
 in the ass.
 
 Daniel
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Filtering Spam
 
 Hey,
 
 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Daniel
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-10 Thread Steve Ens
Ninja rocks!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Daniel Hood dsmh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey,

 I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
 conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
 mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
 enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
 school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
 product that actually works.

 Ideas?

 Daniel

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-10 Thread Joseph L. Casale
There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange server
and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on it
or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of
which there are lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-10 Thread Don Andrews
All this assumes of course that your time is free.  

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

- Original Message -
From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 10 21:22:51 2009
Subject: RE: Filtering Spam

There's lots of good options, you could install Perl on the exchange server
and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on it
or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new that of
which there are lots of how to's.

By far the easiest is assp and it does work well.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-10 Thread Bluewater BWCIS
Daniel,
I have deployed Untangle at many client sites that run SBS.
They also have a great package for Schools, but that is not free.
Their basic package is, runs on x86 hardware that you may have laying around.
For a production environment, I order up a no OS Dell from their outlook site 
with a 3 year NBD warranty.
Complete solution for less than $600.

Check them out.

Randall Nerison  MCSE - MCDBA
Systems Engineer and Technology Specialist
Bluewater Computer and Internet Solutionshttp://bwcis.com/
Bluewater Online Travelhttp://bwcistravel.com/
Great Deals On Travel





From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Filtering Spam

Hey,

I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in
conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have
mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the
enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high
school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam
product that actually works.

Ideas?

Daniel

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: filtering spam

2002-06-01 Thread Precht, David
Title: Message



**content filter **
-Original Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 
18:46To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
spam

  Would "fisting" be on that list? :P
  

-Original Message-From: Martin 
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
May 31, 2002 9:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
You are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change 
every day.
I 
have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.

I 
am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
disgusting to post publicly.

  
  -Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
  DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  We use a third party product but it's manual entry 
  too.If we get porn spam, then I will block the domain. 
  We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it to very small 
  trickle. A lot of cz domains.
  
  -sp
  

-Original Message-From: William 
Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
instead?

  
  -Original Message-From: Missy 
  Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Re: filtering spam
  Wowza. How about teaching your 
  users all about the delete key instead?
  
  And thinking about content filtering 
  software.
  
  And web sites? You mean domain 
  names, right?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JFadigan 
To: MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
3:25 PM
Subject: filtering spam


I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which 
I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do 
this for me.List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Torben Frandsen

Guys,

I have an idea:

Since valid e-mail addresses are traded among spammers, why not invalidate
your e-mail address? What I mean is, you could probably write an add-on
that would create and send fake NDRs, causing your address to appear
invalid and thusly be deleted from their dbs.

I don't have the time, nor the skills to write it myself, so if anyone
wants to use the idea, just send me $1bn or a thank you note.

Torben

 Like William pointed out, use the IMS restrictions to do content
 filtering.

-snip-

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Andy David

That doesnt sound very RFC-friendly! 
I dont think they care about the NDRs - that and the fact that in many cases
the FROM address is a phony, I don think it would really work. 

-Original Message-
From: Torben Frandsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam


Guys,

I have an idea:

Since valid e-mail addresses are traded among spammers, why not invalidate
your e-mail address? What I mean is, you could probably write an add-on
that would create and send fake NDRs, causing your address to appear
invalid and thusly be deleted from their dbs.

I don't have the time, nor the skills to write it myself, so if anyone
wants to use the idea, just send me $1bn or a thank you note.

Torben

 Like William pointed out, use the IMS restrictions to do content
 filtering.

-snip-

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Precht, David



ever 
try IE Content Advisor?



  -Original Message-From: JFadigan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 15:25 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: filtering 
  spam
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I am 
  at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have several 
  thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
  me.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



You 
are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
day.
I have 
recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working great. 
Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.

I am 
now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting 
to post publicly.

  
  -Original Message-From: Steven Peck DNET 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:02 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  We 
  use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn 
  spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems 
  to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
  domains.
  
  -sp
  

-Original Message-From: William 
Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 
30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: filtering spam
Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
instead?

  
  -Original Message-From: Missy 
  Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
  filtering spam
  Wowza. How about teaching your users 
  all about the delete key instead?
  
  And thinking about content filtering 
  software.
  
  And web sites? You mean domain names, 
  right?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JFadigan 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
PM
Subject: filtering spam


I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. 
I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have 
several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
me.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Schwartz, Jim
Title: Message



It's 
made from all the words Martin uses to do his searches on 
Kazaa.

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
  May 31, 2002 9:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: filtering spam
  You 
  are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
  day.
  I 
  have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
  Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
  great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
  SPAM.
  
  I am 
  now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting 
  to post publicly.
  

-Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam
We 
use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get 
porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that 
seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
  May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy 
Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
filtering spam
Wowza. How about teaching your users 
all about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
  PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
  server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I 
  have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this 
  for me.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



Pretty 
much
When 
my bosses told me how much they likethe filter, I told them how lucky they 
were to hire such a perverted mind.

  
  -Original Message-From: Schwartz, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:05 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  It's 
  made from all the words Martin uses to do his searches on 
  Kazaa.
  

-Original Message-From: Martin 
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
May 31, 2002 9:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
You are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change 
every day.
I 
have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.

I 
am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
disgusting to post publicly.

  
  -Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
  DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  We use a third party product but it's manual entry 
  too.If we get porn spam, then I will block the domain. 
  We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it to very small 
  trickle. A lot of cz domains.
  
  -sp
  

-Original Message-From: William 
Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
instead?

  
  -Original Message-From: Missy 
  Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Re: filtering spam
  Wowza. How about teaching your 
  users all about the delete key instead?
  
  And thinking about content filtering 
  software.
  
  And web sites? You mean domain 
  names, right?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JFadigan 
To: MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
3:25 PM
Subject: filtering spam


I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which 
I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do 
this for me.List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message









Yes, I do not use my 3rd party
to filter by domain. Keywords in subject, header fields, and body work best.
You catch a lot of "interesting" personal mail that way too.personal mail that way too.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





You are wasting time.
Most of the domains are forged and they change every day.





I have recently started
playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of Webshield SMTP and are
blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working great. Ill bet we are
blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn SPAM.











I am now working on the
Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting to post publicly.





-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck DNET
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:02
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



We use a third party
product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam, then I will
block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it
to very small trickle. A lot of cz domains.











-sp





-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Isn't it easier to block
@aol.com at the IMS instead?





-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: filtering spam



Wowza. How about teaching your
users all about the delete key instead?











And thinking about content filtering
software.











And web sites? You mean domain
names, right?







- Original Message - 





From: JFadigan 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday,
May 30, 2002 3:25 PM





Subject: filtering
spam









I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: Message



You 
are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  the 
from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content filtering 
software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will be migrating 
to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more configurable when I 
learn how to configure it :)

I have 
a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is 
entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at your 
companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that will 
trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took a lot 
of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to understand that 
our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
  May 31, 2002 8:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: filtering spam
  You 
  are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
  day.
  I 
  have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
  Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
  great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
  SPAM.
  
  I am 
  now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting 
  to post publicly.
  

-Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam
We 
use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get 
porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that 
seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
  May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy 
Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
filtering spam
Wowza. How about teaching your users 
all about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
  PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
  server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I 
  have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this 
  for me.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message









You can only do so much. The user needs to
do their part too. If you are getting spam with no text,
block the "no subject" or "no body" messages. I
do that already



-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





You are absolutely right
Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  the from email
addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content filtering
software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will be migrating
to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more configurable when I
learn how to configure it :)











I have a Sherry
Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is entirely too
disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at your
companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that will
trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took a lot
of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to understand that
our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 





-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



You are wasting time.
Most of the domains are forged and they change every day.





I have recently started
playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of Webshield SMTP and are
blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working great. Ill bet we
are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn SPAM.











I am now working on the
Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting to post publicly.





-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck DNET
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



We use a third party
product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam, then I will
block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it
to very small trickle. A lot of cz domains.











-sp





-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Isn't it easier to block
@aol.com at the IMS instead?





-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: filtering spam



Wowza. How about teaching your
users all about the delete key instead?











And thinking about content filtering
software.











And web sites? You mean domain
names, right?







- Original Message - 





From: JFadigan 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 PM





Subject: filtering
spam









I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: Message



Mail 
Essentials doesn't have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what I'm 
migrating to. The only reason the user was ticked was because management 
sent out a memo stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of 
emails..mgmt didn't have a clue  of course didn't ask for my input on 
the wording of the memo :) Don't ya just love mgmt?

  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 
  11:32 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  You can only do so 
  much. The user needs to do their part too. If you are 
  getting spam with no text, block the "no subject" or "no body" 
  messages. I do that already
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 11:20 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  
  
  You are 
  absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  the 
  from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content filtering 
  software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will be 
  migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more 
  configurable when I learn how to configure it 
  :)
  
  
  
  I have a 
  Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is 
  entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at 
  your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that 
  will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took 
  a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
  understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: Martin 
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 8:03 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

You 
are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
day.

I have 
recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
great. Ill bet we are 
blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.



I am 
now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
disgusting to post publicly.
-Original 
  Message-From: Steven 
  Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 1:02 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  We 
  use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get 
  porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and 
  that seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
  domains.
  
  
  
  -sp
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 12:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
        IssuesSubject: RE: 
    filtering spam

Isn't it easier 
to block @aol.com at the IMS instead?

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 12:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
      IssuesSubject: Re: 
  filtering spam
  
  Wowza. 
  How about teaching your users all about the delete key 
  instead?
  
  
  
  And thinking 
  about content filtering software.
  
  
  
  And web 
  sites? You mean domain names, 
  right?
  

- 
Original Message - 

From: 
JFadigan 


To: 
MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues 

Sent: 
Thursday, May 30, 
2002 3:25 
PM

Subject: 
filtering spam


I am 
setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I am 
at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have 
several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
me.
List 
Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Zangara, Jim
Title: Message



Check out Message Inspector 
from Elron SW. It "reads" the email and scores it based on criteria you 
set. So even if the word sex was in the body it could potentially flag it 
as spam.



Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
electrical system, which is good, 
because electricity can kill you. -- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw" 


  
  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
  Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:58 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  Mail 
  Essentials doesn't have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what I'm 
  migrating to. The only reason the user was ticked was because management 
  sent out a memo stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of 
  emails..mgmt didn't have a clue  of course didn't ask for my input on 
  the wording of the memo :) Don't ya just love mgmt?
  

-Original Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 11:32 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

You can only do so 
much. The user needs to do their part too. If you are 
getting spam with no text, block the "no subject" or "no body" 
messages. I do that already

-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 11:20 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam


You 
are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  
the from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content 
filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will 
be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more 
configurable when I learn how to configure it 
:)



I have 
a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is 
entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at 
your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that 
will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I 
took a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 

-Original 
  Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 8:03 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  You 
  are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
  day.
  
  I 
  have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy 
  of Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is 
  working great. Ill bet we are 
  blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
  SPAM.
  
  
  
  I am 
  now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
  disgusting to post publicly.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 1:02 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

We use a third 
party product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam, 
then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems 
to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
domains.



-sp

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 12:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  Isn't it 
  easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 
12:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Re: 
filtering spam

Wowza. How about 
teaching your users all about the delete key 
instead?



And 
thinking about content filtering 
software.



And web 
sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  
  - 
  Original Message - 
   

RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message









Can't live with 'em...



Can't be paid without 'em...



-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





Mail Essentials doesn't
have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what I'm migrating to.
The only reason the user was ticked was because management sent out a memo
stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of emails..mgmt didn't have a
clue  of course didn't ask for my input on the wording of the memo
:) Don't ya just love mgmt?





-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:32
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam

You can only do so much.
The user needs to do their part too. If you are getting spam with no text,
block the no subject or no body messages. I do that
already



-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





You are
absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  the
from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content filtering
software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will be migrating
to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more configurable when I
learn how to configure it :)











I have a
Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is
entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at your
companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that will
trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took a lot
of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to understand that
our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 





-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



You are
wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every day.





I have
recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working
great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn SPAM.











I am now
working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting to
post publicly.





-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck DNET
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



We use a
third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam,
then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems to have
reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz domains.











-sp





-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Isn't it
easier to block @aol.com at the IMS instead?





-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: filtering spam



Wowza. How about teaching your
users all about the delete key instead?











And thinking about content filtering
software.











And web sites? You mean domain
names, right?







- Original Message - 





From: JFadigan 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 PM





Subject: filtering
spam









I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message









Dammit. Thanks for using the word "sex".
Now my own filter caught that one. lol



-Original Message-
From: Zangara, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





Check out Message Inspector from
Elron SW. It reads the email and scores it based on criteria
you set. So even if the word sex was in the body it could potentially
flag it as spam.















Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
IT Manager
Special Projects Engineer 
Premiere Radio Networks 
A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 
Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



electrical
system, which is good, because electricity can kill you. -- Dave Barry,
The Taming of the Screw 





-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Mail Essentials doesn't
have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what I'm migrating to.
The only reason the user was ticked was because management sent out a memo
stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of emails..mgmt didn't have a
clue  of course didn't ask for my input on the wording of the memo
:) Don't ya just love mgmt?





-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam

You can only do so much.
The user needs to do their part too. If you are getting spam with no text,
block the no subject or no body messages. I do that
already



-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





You are
absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  the
from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content filtering
software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will be migrating
to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more configurable when I
learn how to configure it :)











I have a
Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is entirely
too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at your
companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that will
trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took a lot
of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to understand that
our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 





-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



You are
wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every day.





I have
recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working
great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn SPAM.











I am now
working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting to
post publicly.





-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck DNET
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



We use a
third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam,
then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems to have
reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz domains.











-sp





-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Isn't it
easier to block @aol.com at the IMS instead?





-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: filtering spam



Wowza. How about teaching your
users all about the delete key instead?











And thinking about content filtering
software.











And web sites? You mean domain
names, right?







- Original Message - 





From: JFadigan 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 PM





Subject: filtering
spam









I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread William Lefkovics
Title: Message



Somebody here was telling us about filter software that 
could check images, at least rudimentarily (it's a word 
now.)

  
  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
  Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:20 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  You 
  are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  
  the from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content 
  filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will 
  be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more 
  configurable when I learn how to configure it :)
  
  I 
  have a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it 
  is entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at 
  your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that 
  will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I took 
  a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
  understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 
  
  

-Original Message-From: Martin 
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
May 31, 2002 8:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
You are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change 
every day.
I 
have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.

I 
am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
disgusting to post publicly.

  
  -Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
  DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  We use a third party product but it's manual entry 
  too.If we get porn spam, then I will block the domain. 
  We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it to very small 
  trickle. A lot of cz domains.
  
  -sp
  

-Original Message-From: William 
Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
instead?

  
  -Original Message-From: Missy 
  Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Re: filtering spam
  Wowza. How about teaching your 
  users all about the delete key instead?
  
  And thinking about content filtering 
  software.
  
  And web sites? You mean domain 
  names, right?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JFadigan 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
3:25 PM
Subject: filtering spam


I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread William Lefkovics
Title: Message



I 
worked in the lumber industry.

I 
don't feel the need to hire a full time quarantine folder 
administrator.


  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 
  10:14 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  Dammit. Thanks for 
  using the word "sex". Now my own filter caught that one. 
  lol
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Zangara, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 12:04 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  
  
  Check out Message Inspector from 
  Elron SW. It "reads" the email and scores it based on criteria you 
  set. So even if the word sex was in the body it could potentially flag 
  it as spam.
  
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT 
  ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A 
  Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
  Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  electrical system, 
  which is good, because electricity can kill you. -- Dave Barry, "The Taming of 
  the Screw" 
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 9:58 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

Mail 
Essentials doesn't have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what 
I'm migrating to. The only reason the user was ticked was because 
management sent out a memo stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of 
emails..mgmt didn't have a clue  of course didn't ask for my input 
on the wording of the memo :) Don't ya just love 
mgmt?
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 11:32 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  You 
  can only do so much. The user needs to do their part too. If you are 
  getting spam with no text, block the "no subject" or "no body" messages. I 
  do that already
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 11:20 
      AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  
  You 
  are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently 
   the from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of 
  content filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from 
  GFI, but will be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going to 
  be much more configurable when I learn how to configure it 
  :)
  
  
  
  I 
  have a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, 
  it is entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until 
  someone at your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it 
  at all that will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, 
  ouch. I took a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that 
  received it to understand that our content filtering is only for text, not 
  pictures. 
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 8:03 
    AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

You are wasting 
time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
day.

I 
have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a 
copy of Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It 
is working great. Ill bet we are 
blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
SPAM.



I 
am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
disgusting to post publicly.

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
  2002 1:02 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  We use a 
  third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get 
  porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 
  and that seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot 
  of cz domains.
  
  
  
  -sp
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 
12:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam

RE: filtering spam - PORNSweeper

2002-05-31 Thread Roger Wright
Title: Message



http://www.mimesweeper.com/products/pornsweeper/default.asp


Roger Wright
Southern Commerce Bank
___


Ambiguity means telling the 
truth when you don't mean to. 

  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:25 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  Somebody here was telling us about filter software 
  that could check images, at least rudimentarily (it's a word 
  now.)
  

-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:20 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
spam
You are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change 
frequently  the from email addresses are faked also. Get some 
kind of content filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials 
from GFI, but will be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going 
to be much more configurable when I learn how to configure it 
:)

I 
have a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it 
is entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone 
at your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all 
that will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. 
I took a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 


  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  You are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they 
  change every day.
  I have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled 
  out a copy of Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. 
  It is working great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which 
  is porn SPAM.
  
  I am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts 
  its too disgusting to post publicly.
  

-Original Message-From: Steven 
Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: filtering spam
We use a third party product but it's manual entry 
too.If we get porn spam, then I will block the domain. 
We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it to very small 
trickle. A lot of cz domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy 
Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Re: filtering spam
Wowza. How about teaching your 
users all about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain 
names, right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  3:25 PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
  server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, 
  which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that 
  can do this for me.List Charter 
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Steven Peck DNET
Title: Message



I just 
have my user's forward the email header information or not delete it and go look 
myself.
I take 
the domain closest to the originator and block that and all the sub 
domains.
That 
seems to have gotten MOST of the offensive stuff. Periodically I add a few 
more.
Of 
course, I currently have a relatively small environment with only a few hundred 
people.

Now, 
originally they would just forward the entire message to me, wiping out header 
info and causing the occassional discomfort. :)
(There 
is nothing like opening a graphically laden message with the HR manager standing 
right next to you -DOH!)

-sp


  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 
  10:12 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  Can't live with 
  'em...
  
  Can't be paid without 
  'em...
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 11:58 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
  spam
  
  
  Mail 
  Essentials doesn't have that option, but I'll be looking for that on what I'm 
  migrating to. The only reason the user was ticked was because management 
  sent out a memo stating that IT would be blocking those kinds of 
  emails..mgmt didn't have a clue  of course didn't ask for my input on 
  the wording of the memo :) Don't ya just love 
  mgmt?
  
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:32 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam
You 
can only do so much. The user needs to do their part too. If you are getting 
spam with no text, block the "no subject" or "no body" messages. I do that 
already

-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
2002 11:20 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
filtering spam


You 
are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change frequently  
the from email addresses are faked also. Get some kind of content 
filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials from GFI, but will 
be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going to be much more 
configurable when I learn how to configure it 
:)



I have 
a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it is 
entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone at 
your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all that 
will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. I 
took a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 

-Original 
  Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 8:03 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  
  You 
  are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
  day.
  
  I 
  have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy 
  of Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is 
  working great. Ill bet we are 
  blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
  SPAM.
  
  
  
  I am 
  now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too 
  disgusting to post publicly.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 1:02 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
        IssuesSubject: RE: 
    filtering spam

We 
use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we 
get porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 
and that seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of 
cz domains.



-sp

  

  
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: Message



PornSweeper, part of the MimeSweeper product 
line.

http://www.mimesweeper.com/products/pornsweeper/default.asp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 
  2002 1:25 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  filtering spam
  Somebody here was telling us about filter software 
  that could check images, at least rudimentarily (it's a word 
  now.)
  

-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:20 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: filtering 
spam
You are absolutely right Martin, the domains are forged, change 
frequently  the from email addresses are faked also. Get some 
kind of content filtering software. Currently I use Mail Essentials 
from GFI, but will be migrating to a Linux flavored software that is going 
to be much more configurable when I learn how to configure it 
:)

I 
have a Sherry Abercrombie Porn Filter list  you're absolutely right, it 
is entirely too disgusting to post publicly. Just wait until someone 
at your companyreceives a porn email that has NO text in it at all 
that will trigger the filtering, it's just a bunch of pictures, ouch. 
I took a lot of heat on that one until I got the person that received it to 
understand that our content filtering is only for text, not pictures. 


  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Friday, May 31, 2002 8:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  You are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they 
  change every day.
  I have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled 
  out a copy of Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. 
  It is working great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which 
  is porn SPAM.
  
  I am now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts 
  its too disgusting to post publicly.
  

-Original Message-From: Steven 
Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: filtering spam
We use a third party product but it's manual entry 
too.If we get porn spam, then I will block the domain. 
We're up to about 60 and that seems to have reduced it to very small 
trickle. A lot of cz domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy 
Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 
2002 12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Re: filtering spam
Wowza. How about teaching your 
users all about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain 
names, right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
  3:25 PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
  server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, 
  which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that 
  can do this for me.List Charter 
  and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-31 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Would 
"fisting" be on that list? :P

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
  May 31, 2002 9:03 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: filtering spam
  You 
  are wasting time. Most of the domains are forged and they change every 
  day.
  I 
  have recently started playing with content filtering. I pulled out a copy of 
  Webshield SMTP and are blocking by keywords in the subject. It is working 
  great. Ill bet we are blocking about 75% of our focus which is porn 
  SPAM.
  
  I am 
  now working on the Martin Blackstone Porn Filter list, buts its too disgusting 
  to post publicly.
  

-Original Message-From: Steven Peck 
DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
1:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    filtering spam
We 
use a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get 
porn spam, then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that 
seems to have reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz 
domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
  May 30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy 
Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 
12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
    filtering spam
Wowza. How about teaching your users 
all about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
  PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange 
  server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I 
  have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this 
  for me.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread William Lefkovics
Title: Message



Exchange5.5? I don't know of any, but certainly a 
reasonable request.

William

  
  -Original Message-From: JFadigan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:25 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: filtering 
  spam
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I am 
  at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have several 
  thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
  me.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread Matthew Carpenter








Where are you entering that?



-Original Message-
From: JFadigan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May
 30, 2002 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: filtering spam



I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site manually,
which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this
for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm







RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread JFadigan
Title: Message









Exchange 5.5 sp4 windows 2k



-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam





Exchange5.5? I
don't know of any, but certainly a reasonable request.











William





-Original Message-
From: JFadigan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: filtering spam

I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm







RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread JFadigan








In the messaging filter window under
connections in the SMTP connector.







-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: filtering spam



Where are you entering
that?



-Original Message-
From: JFadigan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: filtering spam



I am setting up filtering(to filter out
spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm







Re: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread Missy Koslosky



Wowza. How about teaching your users all 
about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I am 
  at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have several 
  thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
  me.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread Matthew Carpenter









Yes I am pretty sure they mean domains.
You need a 3rd party filter, or teach them to delete. You can never
keep up with that list. 



-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May
 30, 2002 2:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: filtering spam





Wowza. How about teaching your
users all about the delete key instead?











And thinking about content filtering
software.











And web sites? You mean domain
names, right?







- Original Message - 





From: JFadigan 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday, May 30,
 2002 3:25 PM





Subject: filtering
spam









I am setting up filtering(to filter
out spam) on my exchange server. I am at the moment putting in each web site
manually, which I have several thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can
do this for me.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm






List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread William Lefkovics
Title: Message



Isn't 
it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS instead?

  
  -Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: filtering 
  spam
  Wowza. How about teaching your users all 
  about the delete key instead?
  
  And thinking about content filtering 
  software.
  
  And web sites? You mean domain names, 
  right?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JFadigan 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 

Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
PM
Subject: filtering spam


I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I am 
at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have several 
thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
me.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread Steven Peck DNET
Title: Message



We use 
a third party product but it's manual entry too.If we get porn spam, 
then I will block the domain. We're up to about 60 and that seems to have 
reduced it to very small trickle. A lot of cz domains.

-sp

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 
  30, 2002 12:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: filtering spam
  Isn't it easier to block @aol.com at the IMS 
  instead?
  

-Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: filtering 
spam
Wowza. How about teaching your users all 
about the delete key instead?

And thinking about content filtering 
software.

And web sites? You mean domain names, 
right?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JFadigan 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 
  PM
  Subject: filtering spam
  
  
  I am setting up filtering(to filter out spam) on my exchange server. I 
  am at the moment putting in each web site manually, which I have several 
  thousand. Is there any tool or feature that can do this for 
  me.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: filtering spam

2002-05-30 Thread Rodney Li

Like William pointed out, use the IMS restrictions to do content
filtering.

Rodney

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