RE: Finally 2010
Maybe, if you have either 1) unlimited transaction log space, or 2) continuously running incremental backups or 3) using circular logging. From: bounce-8491543-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8491543-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Barsodi.John Sent: 16 April 2009 16:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 PowerShell can get your mailboxes migrated in less than a week if scripted and implemented properly. ;) - John Barsodi From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I was hoping that database portability could be an option for 2007 2010. How sexy that would be - could get my entire user base migrated in a week :) From: bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens Sent: 15 April 2009 18:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect
RE: Finally 2010
I was hoping that database portability could be an option for 2007 2010. How sexy that would be - could get my entire user base migrated in a week :) From: bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens Sent: 15 April 2009 18:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http
RE: Finally 2010
But does it support Public Folders?!?!?! :-) From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 May be was a theoretical improvement, but so complicated and buggy GuidoElia HELPPC Da: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 8.24 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 2007 was a great improvement over 2003. 2010 is an order of magnitude cooler than 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 So 2003 users should wait .2007 was a flop ! GuidoElia HELPPC Da: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 6.35 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca http://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
That's already been answered earlier in this thread. Yes, it does. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: But does it support Public Folders?!?!?! :-) -- *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:29 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* R: Finally 2010 May be was a theoretical improvement, but so complicated and buggy *GuidoElia* *HELPPC* -- *Da:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Inviato:* mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 8.24 *A:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Oggetto:* RE: Finally 2010 2007 was a great improvement over 2003. 2010 is an order of magnitude cooler than 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* R: Finally 2010 So 2003 users should wait .2007 was a flop ! *GuidoElia* *HELPPC* -- *Da:* KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] *Inviato:* mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 6.35 *A:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Oggetto:* Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I'm guessing those changes to Jet disallowed that as an option. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I was hoping that database portability could be an option for 2007 2010. How sexy that would be - could get my entire user base migrated in a week :) From: bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens Sent: 15 April 2009 18:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally
RE: Finally 2010
Okay... disregard my first reply. Didn't get this far into the emails... From: Dahl, Peter [mailto:peter.d...@yum.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Public Folders are still alive and kicking on the Mailbox role of an Exchange 2010 server. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd351040(EXCHG.140).aspx From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I heard way back that 2007 was the last Exchange version to support Public Folders. Is that still accurate? Are the PFs in 2010? Craig Craig M. Sauvigne System Administrator Winthrop University Rock Hill, SC 29733 sauvig...@winthrop.edu SC143 From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Very cool. I'm still on 2003. Since we're talking about it, what's the anticipated release date? Thanks. - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ���ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca http://www.hedonists.ca/ DISCLAIMER: This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Yup. Never mind ;( From: bounce-8491481-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8491481-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Campbell, Rob Sent: 16 April 2009 16:07 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I'm guessing those changes to Jet disallowed that as an option. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I was hoping that database portability could be an option for 2007 2010. How sexy that would be - could get my entire user base migrated in a week :) From: bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens Sent: 15 April 2009 18:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
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You're still using the CLI when you use the GUI. All the GUI is doing is helping you construct and invoke the commands. It's just a matter of adding more stuff to the GUI to construct and invoke more of the commands. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
PowerShell can get your mailboxes migrated in less than a week if scripted and implemented properly. ;) - John Barsodi From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I was hoping that database portability could be an option for 2007 2010. How sexy that would be - could get my entire user base migrated in a week :) From: bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490809-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens Sent: 15 April 2009 18:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48
RE: Finally 2010
Close, but not strictly true. Both the CLI and the GUI create a RunSpace which parses and executes the commands. The CLI does more than just the RunSpace - it handles the ConsoleHost and handles all the UI stuff which isn't needed for the programmatic interfaces. That's why they were split. From: Campbell, Rob [rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 You're still using the CLI when you use the GUI. All the GUI is doing is helping you construct and invoke the commands. It's just a matter of adding more stuff to the GUI to construct and invoke more of the commands. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Anyhoo... It's still a step backwards to give users LESS functionality with a GUI than they had with prior versions. I've seen a lot of complaints about that out on the intertubes, and I tend to agree. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Close, but not strictly true. Both the CLI and the GUI create a RunSpace which parses and executes the commands. The CLI does more than just the RunSpace - it handles the ConsoleHost and handles all the UI stuff which isn't needed for the programmatic interfaces. That's why they were split. From: Campbell, Rob [rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 You're still using the CLI when you use the GUI. All the GUI is doing is helping you construct and invoke the commands. It's just a matter of adding more stuff to the GUI to construct and invoke more of the commands. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I always figured the lack of functionality in the GUI was due to the ground-up rewrite they had to do on a lot of it. Not really an excuse, just maybe the reason why. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Anyhoo... It's still a step backwards to give users LESS functionality with a GUI than they had with prior versions. I've seen a lot of complaints about that out on the intertubes, and I tend to agree. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Close, but not strictly true. Both the CLI and the GUI create a RunSpace which parses and executes the commands. The CLI does more than just the RunSpace - it handles the ConsoleHost and handles all the UI stuff which isn't needed for the programmatic interfaces. That's why they were split. From: Campbell, Rob [rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 You're still using the CLI when you use the GUI. All the GUI is doing is helping you construct and invoke the commands. It's just a matter of adding more stuff to the GUI to construct and invoke more of the commands. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I think PS will go a long way toward replacing the chaotic collection of command line programs that have their own special syntax with a common management platform. If you're managing Unix boxes too, I'd think you'd be using PS already. It's got some aliases already in place for some of the common Unix commands like ls, and it's agnostic about which way the slashes go. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
That's my exact point. SOME aliases in place. SOME similarities. It's there, but not quite there. And with the mix the commands are not intuitive enough to make it easy to muddle your way through it. For administrators that are spread thin, USUALLY (yes, I said USUALLY) GUIs are consistent enough in their design where you find your way to the screen you need. And there's always Help, though not always helpful. *whew* Okay, that's enough from me... -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I think PS will go a long way toward replacing the chaotic collection of command line programs that have their own special syntax with a common management platform. If you're managing Unix boxes too, I'd think you'd be using PS already. It's got some aliases already in place for some of the common Unix commands like ls, and it's agnostic about which way the slashes go. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
That's exactly it. I'm the guy in charge of Exchange for our organization, but it's just one thing among many for which I'm responsible for. EMS is powerful, to be sure--but there's no way I have time to learn all of the commands. Stuff that I used to be able to easily do via GUI I now have to do from the shell, and I seem to do some of those things just rarely enough so that I forget the commands. Big example... Looking at mailbox sizes. With Ex2003, I could very easily do this via GUI. I could quickly sort my users by item count or mailbox size. Now I have to do this from EMS, which is just not at quick. I'm also not thrilled that I can no longer create a mailbox via ADUC. I used to jump to ADUC, copy an existing user to create a new account, and in just a couple of clicks have a new user's account and mailbox created. Now I have to split this task between ADUC and EMC. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Would PowerGUI and some of the powerpacks from http://www.powergui.org/kbcategory.jspa?categoryID=47 help here? The Exchange 2003 one is fabulous. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2009 18:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 That's exactly it. I'm the guy in charge of Exchange for our organization, but it's just one thing among many for which I'm responsible for. EMS is powerful, to be sure--but there's no way I have time to learn all of the commands. Stuff that I used to be able to easily do via GUI I now have to do from the shell, and I seem to do some of those things just rarely enough so that I forget the commands. Big example... Looking at mailbox sizes. With Ex2003, I could very easily do this via GUI. I could quickly sort my users by item count or mailbox size. Now I have to do this from EMS, which is just not at quick. I'm also not thrilled that I can no longer create a mailbox via ADUC. I used to jump to ADUC, copy an existing user to create a new account, and in just a couple of clicks have a new user's account and mailbox created. Now I have to split this task between ADUC and EMC. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
It may be, but why get a 3rd party GUI for things that could have, did have and ought to have a GUI object to begin with. I find it ironic that Microsoft started with DOS, then pushed Windows version after version (including BOB) and now they decide that GUI doesn't work anymore and we need to return to CLI. Where'd I put those 6.22 disks...? -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Would PowerGUI and some of the powerpacks from http://www.powergui.org/kbcategory.jspa?categoryID=47 help here? The Exchange 2003 one is fabulous. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2009 18:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 That's exactly it. I'm the guy in charge of Exchange for our organization, but it's just one thing among many for which I'm responsible for. EMS is powerful, to be sure--but there's no way I have time to learn all of the commands. Stuff that I used to be able to easily do via GUI I now have to do from the shell, and I seem to do some of those things just rarely enough so that I forget the commands. Big example... Looking at mailbox sizes. With Ex2003, I could very easily do this via GUI. I could quickly sort my users by item count or mailbox size. Now I have to do this from EMS, which is just not at quick. I'm also not thrilled that I can no longer create a mailbox via ADUC. I used to jump to ADUC, copy an existing user to create a new account, and in just a couple of clicks have a new user's account and mailbox created. Now I have to split this task between ADUC and EMC. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http
RE: Finally 2010
...and the drive ;-) -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 It may be, but why get a 3rd party GUI for things that could have, did have and ought to have a GUI object to begin with. I find it ironic that Microsoft started with DOS, then pushed Windows version after version (including BOB) and now they decide that GUI doesn't work anymore and we need to return to CLI. Where'd I put those 6.22 disks...? -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Would PowerGUI and some of the powerpacks from http://www.powergui.org/kbcategory.jspa?categoryID=47 help here? The Exchange 2003 one is fabulous. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2009 18:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 That's exactly it. I'm the guy in charge of Exchange for our organization, but it's just one thing among many for which I'm responsible for. EMS is powerful, to be sure--but there's no way I have time to learn all of the commands. Stuff that I used to be able to easily do via GUI I now have to do from the shell, and I seem to do some of those things just rarely enough so that I forget the commands. Big example... Looking at mailbox sizes. With Ex2003, I could very easily do this via GUI. I could quickly sort my users by item count or mailbox size. Now I have to do this from EMS, which is just not at quick. I'm also not thrilled that I can no longer create a mailbox via ADUC. I used to jump to ADUC, copy an existing user to create a new account, and in just a couple of clicks have a new user's account and mailbox created. Now I have to split this task between ADUC and EMC. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 GUI, definitely. There's already too much CLI out there with their own special syntax. I don't care how much training you have, if you're an administrator that wears a lot of hats it's difficult to keep them straight. Especially if you have network administration thrown in with several flavors of Unix. Granted, I have seen the need for CLI for some tasks not covered in the GUI, but items should not be taken away from the GUI. -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 In special mode if you have to manage a small business and they cannot afford an Exchange administrator . Compelling users to use Powershell for standard operations is insane . GUI is the way to go also for economical reasons GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: giovedì 16 aprile 2009 14.36 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 So, will Microsoft be moving some of the things back into the GUI that they had pulled out in 2007? That decrease in functionality never made sense to me. I'm all for a strong CLI, but from a usability standpoint it seems to make more sense to let the user choose whether they want to use a GUI or a CLI for certain functions, rather than to force them to use the CLI. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine
RE: Finally 2010
2007 was a great improvement over 2003. 2010 is an order of magnitude cooler than 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 So 2003 users should wait .2007 was a flop ! GuidoElia HELPPC Da: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 6.35 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
Very cool. I'm still on 2003. Since we're talking about it, what's the anticipated release date? Thanks. - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect (explains MS' lifecycle policy). -Scott From: Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Cool, any word on when 2003 and 2007 support will eventually dry up post 2010 release? 2009/4/15 KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.commailto:clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
Cool, any word on when 2003 and 2007 support will eventually dry up post 2010 release? 2009/4/15 KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
Cool, thanks :-) 2009/4/15 Bolser, Scott scott.bol...@childrens.harvard.edu http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect (explains MS’ lifecycle policy). -Scott *From:* Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:43 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Finally 2010 Cool, any word on when 2003 and 2007 support will eventually dry up post 2010 release? 2009/4/15 KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I heard way back that 2007 was the last Exchange version to support Public Folders. Is that still accurate? Are the PFs in 2010? Craig Craig M. Sauvigne System Administrator Winthrop University Rock Hill, SC 29733 sauvig...@winthrop.edu SC143 From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Very cool. I'm still on 2003. Since we're talking about it, what's the anticipated release date? Thanks. - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to yll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca http://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 that is a Beta 2010 download that is now available. Some info on new stuff is available at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124558(EXCHG.140).aspx and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd298136(EXCHG.140).aspx Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:19:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Finally 2010 From: mailvor...@gmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Been browsing the docs. That header firewall looks like it will make life easier. It doesn't look like they've got the transport rules to use the .net regex library yet. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
The one new feature that sounds promising is DAG (Database Availability Group). I'm running Win2K8 and Exchange 2007 with CCR across two data centers (separate subnets). DAG simplifies that setup by removing the complexity of clustering as E2010 requires Win2k8 enterprise, but does not require clustering. E2010 is using failover clustering's special sauce to simplify log shipping to another mailbox server (up to 16 replicas across 16 servers can be created). If a database fails, only that database is failed over to the replica server, not the entire mailbox server as is the case with CCR today. The CAS server will redirect the client to the new replica (within 30 secs according to MS). Exchange 2007 CCR with Windows 2008 to stretch a cluster across data centers was a great first setup. It's been painful at times, but well worth it currently as I have HA and DR using only MS technology with a two node cluster each with their own independent storage and no 3rd party software for replication or cluster management. E2010 allows organizations with limited bandwidth between data centers to create a solution that incorporates HA and DR without the complexity of configuring or dealing with clusters. There are additional features such as support for other browsers for the premium version of OWA which is huge. Archiving won't be ready for prime time in the RTM version. SP1 may be a different story, but only time will tell. The idea is great, but we'll need to wait for MS' offering to mature. -Scott -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Public Folders are still alive and kicking on the Mailbox role of an Exchange 2010 server. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd351040(EXCHG.140).aspx From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 I heard way back that 2007 was the last Exchange version to support Public Folders. Is that still accurate? Are the PFs in 2010? Craig Craig M. Sauvigne System Administrator Winthrop University Rock Hill, SC 29733 sauvig...@winthrop.edu SC143 From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Very cool. I'm still on 2003. Since we're talking about it, what's the anticipated release date? Thanks. - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Anybody know what the heck cmdlet extension agents are? From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I'm no expert on Exchange by any stretch of the imagination, but 2007 is working just peachy in our environment (~ 500 mailboxes). Complicated, yes-but not really more than 2003 was. Buggy? If it is, we're not seeing it. It has been humming along nicely here for a while. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 May be was a theoretical improvement, but so complicated and buggy GuidoElia HELPPC Da: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 8.24 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 2007 was a great improvement over 2003. 2010 is an order of magnitude cooler than 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 So 2003 users should wait .2007 was a flop ! GuidoElia HELPPC Da: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 6.35 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Well, aren't you going to talk about it? _ John Bowles 301.473.2260 From: KevinM [kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya’ll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I'm particularly intrigued by the size of the installer: 300MB! From: bounce-8490525-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8490525-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of John Bowles Sent: 15 April 2009 14:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Well, aren't you going to talk about it? _ John Bowles 301.473.2260 From: KevinM [kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: Anybody know what the heck “cmdlet extension agents” are? I would guess they're additional commands, or command options, for PowerShell. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
2003 just entered extended support yesterday... Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Cool, any word on when 2003 and 2007 support will eventually dry up post 2010 release? 2009/4/15 KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.commailto:clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Maybe. From what little documentation there is, it appears they may be agents that run powershell scripts. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: Anybody know what the heck cmdlet extension agents are? I would guess they're additional commands, or command options, for PowerShell. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
You kind of lost me. I'm deployed over 300k seats on 2007 at over a hundred different organizations. While I've seen a few bugs (literally 3-4) 2007 is very stable and while it's slightly more complex than 2003 it's nothing particularly difficult to master. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 May be was a theoretical improvement, but so complicated and buggy GuidoElia HELPPC Da: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 8.24 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Finally 2010 2007 was a great improvement over 2003. 2010 is an order of magnitude cooler than 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Finally 2010 So 2003 users should wait .2007 was a flop ! GuidoElia HELPPC Da: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Inviato: mercoledì 15 aprile 2009 6.35 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
I like DAGs, it will be nice to deploy commodity servers with cheap disks and no RAID. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Finally 2010
And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security
RE: Finally 2010
It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam
Re: Finally 2010
Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health
Re: Finally 2010
Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukwrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 15 April 2009 17:21 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only
RE: Finally 2010
Swing method for 2007--2010. There is no option for an in-place upgrade. -Scott From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about
Re: Finally 2010
I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 15 April 2009 17:21 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja
RE: Finally 2010
true... ~Kevinm WLKMMAS From: Steve Ens [stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I would think a swing migration would not be needed between 03 and 10, but perhaps just install alongside (since it will be 64 bit only) and move mailboxes and public folders. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on migration strategies from Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007? I'm assuming a swing migration from 2003 to 2010 is the only way to go, but are there any additional requirements, caveats, etc. going straight from 2003 to 2010? Is there an upgrade path from 2007 to 2010? - Sean On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Randal, Phil pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk wrote: It's worth looking here for Microsoft's cureent take on public folders: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/31/448537.aspx Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260160 email: pran...@herefordshire.gov.ukmailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Herefordshire Council. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 April 2009 17:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 Kewl. I will be checking it out whenever I finish my deployment of E2K7. Just getting my test network up and running for the E2K3 - E2K7 migration so that I have no surprises with the production migration. Then, I think I will try out the E2K10 beta... And we still have public folders eh? Interesting. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com wrote: Oh, I'm sure it will be fixed. No worries there. I don't remember the exact concern as archiving is one thing I haven't played with, but I do remember being concerned when I saw the design. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 I'm sure some lurking MVPs will express the importance of putting the archive on different storage. ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Jeremy Phillips jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 11:14:22 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Yeah, but honestly it's not going to be what people want at first. If I remember correctly you can't move the archive databases off to different storage so you really don't gain much storage wise. It will be nice to have it in the product though, that's for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 And the prospect of built in archiving is huge! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:22:48 2009 Subject: RE: Finally 2010 The DAG, The secondary mailbox thing. Calendaring federation, the cloud move stuff.. the more pretty OWA. The comical dictation of my voicemails. NO MORE CLUSTERING. Much hugely improved Jet Design. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:20 AM
RE: Finally 2010
Here are some shots of 2010 OWA: http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2009/041509-exchange-2010-test.html?n etht=rn_041509nladname=041509dailynewspmal TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/c5rpjt \\Steve// -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
One of the more cool parts of OWA or Outlook Live in Exchange server 2010 is the ECP (Exchange Control Panel) that grants users the power to modify groups, users, and a limited subset of Exchange settings. In ECP the enabled user can manage passwords, create, and delete exchange accounts (includes AD) modify email addresses, modify Contact and general GAL information. In ECP the enabled user can Create, modify, and Delete email enabled groups. In ECP the enabled user can modify global rules, and a few other things. The another really cool part of OWA is the New and very much improved conversation view. Lastly I will toss out a few more improvements; multi browser full fidelity support ( Firefox, opera, IE all with the same user experience- not fully baked) IM integration (full web based Messenger client)The ability to view multiple calendars side by side from the start.. ETC.. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca -Original Message- From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finally 2010 Here are some shots of 2010 OWA: http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2009/041509-exchange-2010-test.html?n etht=rn_041509nladname=041509dailynewspmal TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/c5rpjt \\Steve// -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finally 2010 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:34 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 Okay. So what do people find most compelling about Exchange 2010? :) (I figured I'd leave it open-ended so people can give one item or several, and write a few words or many.) Thanks... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Finally 2010
Exchange 2010 is simply awesome. Huge jump from 2007. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | D: 425-949-1337 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Finally 2010 We can finally talk to ya'll about Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=1898ed2c-2f88-48ac-824e-d3d20fad77d7 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
