RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Is this posted somewhere where it can be ftp'd??? -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jaysus Christmas, people. Don't send this to the list. Jim H: can you put the application on a server somewhere so all of the frigging AOLusers can shut up? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Please send the app to me as well. Thanks! Greg Pickett, MCSE Information Systems Manager S. A. Miro, Inc. 303-741-3737 www.samiro.com -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message- From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
FTP -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits ? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message- From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yeah, how can I get this?? -Original Message- From: MAE(Mark Edgar) Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:25 AM To: MHR(Michael Ross) Subject: FW: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits ? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message- From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
can u send that to me 2. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 March 2002 16:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I should clarify a few things and restate my offer: The file is a simple vbs script that we created. It is freely available to anyone who PMs me (off-list) for a copy. If you previously emailed me looking for it, check your mail. I just sent copies to anyone who asked for it (by mailing me privately) at about 11:35 a.m. (EST) this morning. Stu, sorry to use up so much bandwidth on this! Thanks - Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yeah, how can I get this?? -Original Message- From: MAE(Mark Edgar) Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:25 AM To: MHR(Michael Ross) Subject: FW: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits ? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message- From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little "pigeon-english" subject, similar to "I send you this file to have your advice" ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a "tempting" junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the "be careful" policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: "I can't open an attachment" me: "what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something?" user: "I don't know" me: "is it something you were expecting from someone?" user: "no" me: "why are you trying to open it?" user: "I just want to see what
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
I also feel like a schmuck for posting the original question that prompted Jim's generous offer and all the related chatter. Might I suggest as a peace offering to the list (and to Stu) that all those who benefitted from Jim's app (BTW - got it this morning - thanks Jim) take a few seconds to fill out the survey that Stu has recently posted? Just a thought... (hope this is not out-of-line) -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I should clarify a few things and restate my offer: The file is a simple vbs script that we created. It is freely available to anyone who PMs me (off-list) for a copy. If you previously emailed me looking for it, check your mail. I just sent copies to anyone who asked for it (by mailing me privately) at about 11:35 a.m. (EST) this morning. Stu, sorry to use up so much bandwidth on this! Thanks - Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yeah, how can I get this?? -Original Message- From: MAE(Mark Edgar) Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:25 AM To: MHR(Michael Ross) Subject: FW: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits ? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message- From: Brian Bauer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Funny for sure, but isn't it sad that we have to resort to Guerrilla tactics to keep the environment clean? You wouldn't want to share that little program of yours would you? :-) -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 20, 2002 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Oh, me too! How'd you get it around AV? --- Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Isn't your job in danger if the worst offenders are management? ;-) Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 March 2002 16:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Can you share this program? -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Funny for sure, but isn't it sad that we have to resort to Guerrilla tactics to keep the environment clean? You wouldn't want to share that little program of yours would you? :-) -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 20, 2002 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Let me check with the boss to see if he is OK with distributing it (since he made it). If anybody would like a copy (provided I get his OK), please PM me (so this thread doesn't get too long). Thanks, -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message-From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:00 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Can you share this program? -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Funny for sure, but isn't it sad that we have to resort to Guerrilla tactics to keep the environment clean? You wouldn't want to share that little program of yours would you? :-) -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 20, 2002 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little "pigeon-english" subject, similar to "I send you this file to have your advice" ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a "tempting" junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the "be careful" policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: "I can't open an attachment" me: "what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something?" user: "I don't know" me: "is it something you were expecting from someone?" user: "no" me: "why are you trying to open it?" user: "I just want to see what it is" me: "just ignore it" user: "but why can't I open it?" me: "you're PC doesn't recognize what it is" user: "well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either" me: sigh "just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same" Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought "this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?)", but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the p
Re: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
And here's a hardy arf, arf, for the might Dogg and a big stick to poke the bee hive with. Matt - Original Message - From: Milton R. Dogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Why do you think most of us post answers and taunting replies to this list? It is all about Personal Therapy Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
That would be too cool - could you be convinced to share that progam? -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Title: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits God Idea Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know! -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jim, Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! Brian Bauer Network Administrator JAG (215) 826-8929 Office -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little "pigeon-english" subject, similar to "I send you this file to have your advice" ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a "tempting" junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the "be careful" policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: "I can't open an attachment" me: "what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something?" user: "I don't know" me: "is it something you were expecting from someone?" user: "no" me: "why are you trying to open it?" user: "I just want to see what it is" me: "just ignore it" user: "but why can't I open it?" me: "you're PC doesn't recognize what it is" user: "well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either" me: sigh "just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same" Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought "this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?)", but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confiden
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Jeez... did we all join AOL. me too me too me too me too If you want the app... email the person directly... stop replying to the list Yes it has been a bad day... -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
And since your message was so important, we'll send it to you first!! -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Importance: High i like it too, please send it to me! -Mensaje original- De: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Expuesto a las: Miércoles, 20 de Marzo de 2002 05:50 p.m. Expuesto en: Trafico de Mails Conversación: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Asunto: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Could I also please get that app. Sounds like a really cool thing. Thanks, -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Please send the app to me as well. Thanks! Greg Pickett, MCSE Information Systems Manager S. A. Miro, Inc. 303-741-3737 www.samiro.com -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. thanks randy. *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Jaysus Christmas, people. Don't send this to the list. Jim H: can you put the application on a server somewhere so all of the frigging AOLusers can shut up? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Please send the app to me as well. Thanks! Greg Pickett, MCSE Information Systems Manager S. A. Miro, Inc. 303-741-3737 www.samiro.com -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
My home Exchange2000 server is currently on an AOL free trial. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Jaysus Christmas, people. Don't send this to the list. Jim H: can you put the application on a server somewhere so all of the frigging AOLusers can shut up? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Please send the app to me as well. Thanks! Greg Pickett, MCSE Information Systems Manager S. A. Miro, Inc. 303-741-3737 www.samiro.com -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology
RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits
Me too -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Please send the app to me as well. Thanks! Greg Pickett, MCSE Information Systems Manager S. A. Miro, Inc. 303-741-3737 www.samiro.com -Original Message- From: Joe Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I'd love that little app myself! Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -Original Message- From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Yhea send that to me too.. i like that -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits Man that is funny...I need you to send that to me...keep my sanity by watching others go crazy. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program that we send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone in the company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we include a nice little pigeon-english subject, similar to I send you this file to have your advice ;-). If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of our servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good entertainment on a Friday afternoon. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out there that you can connect to, compose a tempting junk mail for your users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the be careful policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly to you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This guy quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email admins. I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from an unsupported app... user: I can't open an attachment me: what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something? user: I don't know me: is it something you were expecting from someone? user: no me: why are you trying to open it? user: I just want to see what it is me: just ignore it user: but why can't I open it? me: you're PC doesn't recognize what it is user: well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they can't open it either me: sigh just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends are doing the same - aarhhhh! These guys get the sermon on a regular basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of service out there, I thought this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a kind of entrapment?), but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise comment (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use technology to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service might give us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know anything about it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got side-tracked
