RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-03 Thread Randal, Phil

Seeing how Microsoft's patches often fix issues which
Microsoft chooses not to document, this argument is
a bit lame.  The only way to know whether a hotfix
fixes one's problems is to install it and see what 
happern.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 April 2002 04:05
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I certainly agree with that one!  
 
 So does Microsoft.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix 
 addresses.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
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301-610-9584 voice
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  The data furnished in connection with this document is 
 deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and 
 privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others 
 without the prior
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  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to 
 have to install
  those patches.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 
 5.5 servers
  with
   no problems.
   
   Steve Clark
   Clark Systems Support, LLC
   AVIEN Charter Member
   Who's watching your network?
   www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
   
 
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-03 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Generally MS advice is to not put on HotFixes unless they fix a particular
problem that you have as Jim said. Reading between the lines this means We
have attempted to fix a specific problem with this fix but have not been
able to test it fully enough to ascertain whether it will cause other
problems

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 April 2002 09:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Seeing how Microsoft's patches often fix issues which
Microsoft chooses not to document, this argument is
a bit lame.  The only way to know whether a hotfix
fixes one's problems is to install it and see what 
happern.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 April 2002 04:05
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I certainly agree with that one!  
 
 So does Microsoft.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix 
 addresses.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is 
 deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and 
 privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others 
 without the prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to 
 have to install
  those patches.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 
 5.5 servers
  with
   no problems.
   
   Steve Clark
   Clark Systems Support, LLC
   AVIEN Charter Member
   Who's watching your network?
   www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
   
 
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-03 Thread William Lefkovics

Well, you've suggested applying hotfixes to 'fix one's problems'.

I am agreeing not to install hotfixes just because they exist.

Those are a little different, methinks.

For example, I have not installed ANY of these post-sp4 fixes that didn't
apply to a specific problem:
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 RPC Fixes (Q304062)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304062
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Directory Fixes (Q304115)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304115
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Outlook Web Access Fixes (Q313576)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q313576
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Message Transfer Agent Fixes
Available (Q283238)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q283238
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Information Store Fixes
Available (Q282533)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q282533
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Internet Mail Service Fixes
Available (Q289258) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289258
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Collaboration Data Objects
Fixes Available (Q289606) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289606
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Mailbox Cleanup Agent Fixes
Available (Q309010)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309010


Let's hope you don't have to deal with *this* one:
XADM: The Recipient Update Service Does Not Work in an Environment That
Contains More Than 800 Domain Controllers (Q316350) 

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP 





-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Seeing how Microsoft's patches often fix issues which
Microsoft chooses not to document, this argument is
a bit lame.  The only way to know whether a hotfix
fixes one's problems is to install it and see what 
happern.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 April 2002 04:05
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I certainly agree with that one!  
 
 So does Microsoft.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix 
 addresses.
 


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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-03 Thread ONG Liang Bu (CSC)

Hi William,

Just check abt the patch Q304062.
I install this patch because Microsoft list this under their 
security site as one of the security patch.
I take it from Microsoft all security patches need to be patched.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms01-041.asp
Also under the article it is stated that this will be part of
SP5 in future release, in fact a registry key is created

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Exchange Server
5.5\SP5\Q304062

Just wonder is Microsoft going to release SP5 for Exchange 5.5?

Regards
Ong LB
NIE
Singapore

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Well, you've suggested applying hotfixes to 'fix one's problems'.

I am agreeing not to install hotfixes just because they exist.

Those are a little different, methinks.

For example, I have not installed ANY of these post-sp4 fixes that didn't
apply to a specific problem:
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 RPC Fixes (Q304062)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304062
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Directory Fixes (Q304115)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304115
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Outlook Web Access Fixes (Q313576)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q313576
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Message Transfer Agent Fixes
Available (Q283238)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q283238
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Information Store Fixes
Available (Q282533)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q282533
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Internet Mail Service Fixes
Available (Q289258) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289258
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Collaboration Data Objects
Fixes Available (Q289606) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289606
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Mailbox Cleanup Agent Fixes
Available (Q309010)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309010


Let's hope you don't have to deal with *this* one:
XADM: The Recipient Update Service Does Not Work in an Environment That
Contains More Than 800 Domain Controllers (Q316350) 

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP 





-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Seeing how Microsoft's patches often fix issues which
Microsoft chooses not to document, this argument is
a bit lame.  The only way to know whether a hotfix
fixes one's problems is to install it and see what 
happern.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 April 2002 04:05
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I certainly agree with that one!  
 
 So does Microsoft.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix 
 addresses.
 


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-03 Thread William Lefkovics

I ought to keep those links handy, because I doubt Microsoft will release an
sp5 for Exchange5.5.  That doesn't push people toward Exchange2000.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Well, you've suggested applying hotfixes to 'fix one's problems'.

I am agreeing not to install hotfixes just because they exist.

Those are a little different, methinks.

For example, I have not installed ANY of these post-sp4 fixes that didn't
apply to a specific problem:
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 RPC Fixes (Q304062)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304062
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Directory Fixes (Q304115)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304115
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-SP4 Outlook Web Access Fixes (Q313576)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q313576
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Message Transfer Agent Fixes
Available (Q283238)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q283238
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Information Store Fixes
Available (Q282533)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q282533
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Internet Mail Service Fixes
Available (Q289258) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289258
XGEN: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Collaboration Data Objects
Fixes Available (Q289606) 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289606
XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Post-Service Pack 4 Mailbox Cleanup Agent Fixes
Available (Q309010)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309010


Let's hope you don't have to deal with *this* one:
XADM: The Recipient Update Service Does Not Work in an Environment That
Contains More Than 800 Domain Controllers (Q316350) 

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP 





-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Seeing how Microsoft's patches often fix issues which
Microsoft chooses not to document, this argument is
a bit lame.  The only way to know whether a hotfix
fixes one's problems is to install it and see what 
happern.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 April 2002 04:05
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I certainly agree with that one!  
 
 So does Microsoft.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix 
 addresses.


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Clark, Steve

I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
no problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
5.5 SP4.
Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
to install
them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it and
install them all
now?

Thanks.

Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5





Got a url for those patches?


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5



I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with no problems.


Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax


The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange 5.5 SP4. Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches? Is it recommended to install them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it and install them all now?

Thanks.


Robert


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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Schwartz, Jim

You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
those patches.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
 no problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
 5.5 SP4.
 Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
 to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Clark, Steve

Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
those patches.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
 no problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
 5.5 SP4.
 Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
 to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5





There is a new SP coming its 4+1


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5



You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install those patches.


 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers 
 with no problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark 
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged 
 information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of 
 others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, 
 LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since 
 Exchange 5.5 SP4. Has anybody had any problems with any of these 
 patches? Is it recommended to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Ray Zorz

Amateur!! No badge of honor for you!!! g

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
those patches.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
 no problems.

 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
 5.5 SP4.
 Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
 to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?

 Thanks.

 Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Clark, Steve

You can beat me up all you want - I sleep better knowing they are patched. 

ppphhhttt

Steve Clark
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written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

Amateur!! No badge of honor for you!!! g

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
those patches.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
 no problems.

 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax

 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
 5.5 SP4.
 Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
 to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?

 Thanks.

 Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Schwartz, Jim

You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
 those patches.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers
 with
  no problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
 prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
 Exchange
  5.5 SP4.
  Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
 recommended
  to install
  them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
  and
  install them all
  now?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Robert
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
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  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Garland Mac Neill

Oh come on now. I thought everyone enjoyed the 3 in the morning call from
the silly consultant asking why the server is down? Can you go to the office
and fix it because his Fantasy basketball report is lost in limbo...? 

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You can beat me up all you want - I sleep better knowing they are patched. 

ppphhhttt

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
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shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

Amateur!! No badge of honor for you!!! g

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
those patches.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers with
 no problems.

 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax

 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

 -Original Message-
 From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

 There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since Exchange
 5.5 SP4.
 Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it recommended
 to install
 them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
 and
 install them all
 now?

 Thanks.

 Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Clark, Steve

You shouldn't eh - so, wait until I have the problem, then patch? No thanks.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
 those patches.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers
 with
  no problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
 prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
 Exchange
  5.5 SP4.
  Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
 recommended
  to install
  them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for it
  and
  install them all
  now?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Robert
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
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  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Schwartz, Jim

Not all patches are applicable to your installation. Installing patches
because you may want to prevent issues that may or may not show up violates
the engineering principle of KISS.


 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You shouldn't eh - so, wait until I have the problem, then patch? No
 thanks.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
 prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
  those patches.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers
  with
   no problems.
   
   Steve Clark
   Clark Systems Support, LLC
   AVIEN Charter Member
   Who's watching your network?
   www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
   
   The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
   Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
 information
   and
   shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
  prior
   written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
  Exchange
   5.5 SP4.
   Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
  recommended
   to install
   them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for
 it
   and
   install them all
   now?
   
   Thanks.
   
   Robert
   
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   http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
   
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Erik Sojka

I 
want to install patches all ni-i-ight.
Brick backups ev-er-y day!!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Not all patches are applicable to your installation. 
 Installing patches
 because you may want to prevent issues that may or may not 
 show up violates
 the engineering principle of KISS.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You shouldn't eh - so, wait until I have the problem, then patch? No
  thanks.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is 
 deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and 
 privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others 
 without the prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You 
 should only
  install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the 
 hotfix addresses.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
   
   Steve Clark
   Clark Systems Support, LLC
   AVIEN Charter Member
   Who's watching your network?
   www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
   
   The data furnished in connection with this document is 
 deemed by Clark
   Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and 
 privileged information
   and
   shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others 
 without the
  prior
   written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to 
 have to install
   those patches.
   
-Original Message-
From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all 
 my 5.5 servers
   with
no problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is 
 deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
  information
and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of 
 others without the
   prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
   Exchange
5.5 SP4.
Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
   recommended
to install
them separately, over a several week period, or should 
 I just go for
  it
and
install them all
now?

Thanks.

Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread John Matteson

the engineering principle of KISS
-

I thought they were a rock band, not engineers.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
Proverb



-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


Not all patches are applicable to your installation. Installing patches
because you may want to prevent issues that may or may not show up violates
the engineering principle of KISS.


 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You shouldn't eh - so, wait until I have the problem, then patch? No
 thanks.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
   301-610-9584 voice
   240-465-0323 Efax
 
 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
 install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  
  The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
  Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
  and
  shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
 prior
  written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
  those patches.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers
  with
   no problems.
   
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 information
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  prior
   written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
  Exchange
   5.5 SP4.
   Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
  recommended
   to install
   them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for
 it
   and
   install them all
   now?
   
   Thanks.
   
   Robert
   
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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread Schwartz, Jim

Depends on how much the admins have had to drink.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:41 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 the engineering principle of KISS
 -
 
 I thought they were a rock band, not engineers.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still.
 --Chinese
 Proverb
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Not all patches are applicable to your installation. Installing patches
 because you may want to prevent issues that may or may not show up
 violates
 the engineering principle of KISS.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:38 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You shouldn't eh - so, wait until I have the problem, then patch? No
  thanks.
  
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  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:34 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
  install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
   To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
   
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   -Original Message-
   From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
   
   You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to
 install
   those patches.
   
-Original Message-
From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5
 servers
   with
no problems.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by
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and
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written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

There appear to be about 8 patches that have been released since
   Exchange
5.5 SP4.
Has anybody had any problems with any of these patches?  Is it
   recommended
to install
them separately, over a several week period, or should I just go for
  it
and
install them all
now?

Thanks.

Robert

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RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5

2002-04-02 Thread William Lefkovics

I certainly agree with that one!  

So does Microsoft.

William

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5


You shouldn't install hotfixes just because they exist. You should only
install fixes if you are experiencing issues that the hotfix addresses.

 -Original Message-
 From: Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 Nope - just keeping them up to date so I don't have problems.
 
 Steve Clark
 Clark Systems Support, LLC
 AVIEN Charter Member
 Who's watching your network?
 www.clarksupport.com
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 The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
 Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
 and
 shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
 written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:18 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
 
 You must have had a lot of problems with your servers to have to install
 those patches.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Clark, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:39 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject:RE: Patches after SP4 for Exchange 5.5
  
  I've got every hotfix, patch and update install on all my 5.5 servers
 with
  no problems.
  
  Steve Clark
  Clark Systems Support, LLC
  AVIEN Charter Member
  Who's watching your network?
  www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
  

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RE: Patches

2001-09-02 Thread Greg Page
Title: Message



What 
is St Bernard ?


Greg

  
  -Original Message-From: Clark, Steve 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 
  11:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Patches
  
  Does 
  anyone have any experience with St Bernard for staying up with patches - is 
  there another product that you would 
  recommend?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Steve 
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RE: Patches

2001-09-02 Thread Clark, Steve
Title: Message









http://www.stbernard.com/products/updateexpert/products_updateexpert.asp





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-Original
Message-
From: Kevin Miller
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001
10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches



a really big dog. 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001
10:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches

What is St Bernard ?





Greg

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001
11:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches

Does anyone have any experience with St Bernard for
staying up with patches - is there another product that you would recommend?



Thanks.



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RE: Patches

2001-09-02 Thread Mark L. Kelsay

I have tested both St. Bernard Update EXPERT and a product named Service
Pack Manager by Gravity Storm Software
http://home.san.rr.com/gravitystorm/
http://home.san.rr.com/gravitystorm/ .  I liked them both but Update
Expert supported updating hotfixes and service packs on more software.
 
Mr. Baker has a link you might want to take a look at.
 
http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=SPackMgr.TXT
http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=SPackMgr.TXT 
 
 
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches


Does anyone have any experience with St Bernard for staying up with
patches - is there another product that you would recommend?
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Patches

2001-09-02 Thread Clark, Steve

Thanks Mark. I really don't want to have to pay but I'm finding it extremely
difficult to stay up on updates for all the networks and individual PC's in
the many offices I manage. Seems that UpdateExpert will allow me to install
on a laptop and travel to each office to run the queries.

Thanks again for the response.

Steve Clark
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-Original Message-
From: Mark L. Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patches

I have tested both St. Bernard Update EXPERT and a product named Service
Pack Manager by Gravity Storm Software
http://home.san.rr.com/gravitystorm/
http://home.san.rr.com/gravitystorm/ .  I liked them both but Update
Expert supported updating hotfixes and service packs on more software.

Mr. Baker has a link you might want to take a look at.

http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=SPackMgr.TXT
http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=SPackMgr.TXT


Mark
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Patches


Does anyone have any experience with St Bernard for staying up with
patches - is there another product that you would recommend?

Thanks.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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