Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-02-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Not to you Joe.  I ignore people that ignore me.  ;-)

On Jan 30, 2008 2:29 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry ME2, did you say something?
>
> Joe Heaton
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:11 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load
>
> And he wonders why people arent listing to him and doing what he tells
> them.  ;-)
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 4:08 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gee a little testy are we Jason?
> >
> > As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have the
> > luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this, company policy
> > has dictated it to them, so to say that they should be unsubscribed from the
> > list is a little harsh.  I am one of those admins that has been told by
> > upper management to allow OOO's to the internet.  An attempt by the Lyris
> > List Admin a few weeks ago resulted in us not being able to see who the
> > messages were from at all, the general consensus by the members of this list
> > was that we'll take the OOO's in order to see who the messages are from.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2008 2:56 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Gee only 8 OOOs.
> > >
> > > It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
> > > configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> > > standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
> > > because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
> > > How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
> > > to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> > > communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
> > > they get unsubscribed.
> > >
> > > It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> > > batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
> > > the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> > > preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
> > > at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> > > Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
> > >
> > > Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
> > > in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> > > their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
> > > is wrong.
> > >
> > > Thanks for caring,
> > >
> > > ~JasonG
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Sherry Abercrombie
> >
> > "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> > -Albert Einstein
> >
> >
>
>
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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-02-01 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
And as I have asked several times before, what's all the heartburn over
a few OOO's? I get anywhere from 2 to 10 on average every time I post
here. Some are rather funny to read. At worst, I get to bang on the
delete key a bit to get rid of them.  I still do not understand the
vitriolic rage that some people here spew about having to deal with
them.

Get some help. Get in a primal scream therapy group. Take the red pill.
Do something besides gripe about something you can't control.


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Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

Sorry ME2, did you say something?

Joe Heaton


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

And he wonders why people arent listing to him and doing what he tells
them.  ;-)


On Jan 28, 2008 4:08 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gee a little testy are we Jason?
>
> As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have 
> the luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this, 
> company policy has dictated it to them, so to say that they should be 
> unsubscribed from the list is a little harsh.  I am one of those 
> admins that has been told by upper management to allow OOO's to the 
> internet.  An attempt by the Lyris List Admin a few weeks ago resulted

> in us not being able to see who the messages were from at all, the 
> general consensus by the members of this list was that we'll take the
OOO's in order to see who the messages are from.
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 2:56 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gee only 8 OOOs.
> >
> > It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to 
> > correctly configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it 
> > continues due to standard human behavior (which is don't change a 
> > thing until I'm forced to because change is bad/uncomfortable and I
might have to learn something).
> > How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. 
> > Policy is to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this 
> > policy would be communicated at the same time as signing up so 
> > people aren't like wtf when they get unsubscribed.
> >
> > It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this 
> > w/o batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I 
> > volunteer to do the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs

> > (as an attachment preserving full headers please) and I can be given

> > appropriate perms.  I'm at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to

> > get someone in Western Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near
continuous "ooo moderation".
> >
> > Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming 
> > crap in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are 
> > home, with their young daughter watching, and then wondering why 
> > they think something is wrong.
> >
> > Thanks for caring,
> >
> > ~JasonG
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>



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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-30 Thread Joe Heaton
Sorry ME2, did you say something?

Joe Heaton


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

And he wonders why people arent listing to him and doing what he tells
them.  ;-)


On Jan 28, 2008 4:08 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gee a little testy are we Jason?
>
> As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have the
> luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this, company policy
> has dictated it to them, so to say that they should be unsubscribed from the
> list is a little harsh.  I am one of those admins that has been told by
> upper management to allow OOO's to the internet.  An attempt by the Lyris
> List Admin a few weeks ago resulted in us not being able to see who the
> messages were from at all, the general consensus by the members of this list
> was that we'll take the OOO's in order to see who the messages are from.
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 2:56 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gee only 8 OOOs.
> >
> > It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
> > configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> > standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
> > because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
> > How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
> > to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> > communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
> > they get unsubscribed.
> >
> > It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> > batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
> > the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> > preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
> > at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> > Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
> >
> > Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
> > in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> > their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
> > is wrong.
> >
> > Thanks for caring,
> >
> > ~JasonG
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>



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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Tom Strader
Well, all I know is Jason needs to configure some rules to easily
eliminate those pesky OOO's or he may not live much longer due to heart
failure.

Lighten up a little "J", one of the things I enjoy on this list is the
camaraderie between all of us, especially when we pick on Shook and TVK,
Oh and, Jason, you might want to spend more time watching what your
daughter does.

I would NEVER let MY daughter stare at the front yard that long.

Sheesh!

Gotta go take a dump now no not that kind, a data dump for Christs'
sake.



-Original Message-
From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

On 1/28/08 12:56 PM, "Jason Gurtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Gee only 8 OOOs.
> 
> It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to
correctly
> configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm
forced to
> because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn
something).
> How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e.
Policy is
> to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf
when
> they get unsubscribed.
> 
> It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to
do
> the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.
I'm
> at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
> 
> Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming
crap
> in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think
something
> is wrong.
> 
> Thanks for caring,
> 
> ~JasonG

Tell us how you really feel, Jason, and this time don't hold back :)

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Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Salvador Manzo
On 1/28/08 12:56 PM, "Jason Gurtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Gee only 8 OOOs.
> 
> It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
> configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
> because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
> How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
> to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
> they get unsubscribed.
> 
> It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
> the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
> at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
> 
> Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
> in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
> is wrong.
> 
> Thanks for caring,
> 
> ~JasonG

Tell us how you really feel, Jason, and this time don't hold back :)

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Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
University of Southern California
818-612-5112
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like a rock. Thomas Jefferson


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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Gurtz
> Just because you dont like OOO's doesn't mean something is broken or
> out of spec.
> 
> And I think the point of "unsolicited" could be argued in court that
> it very well was solicited by posting to a very public list.

I guess that's why searching for 'stopping "out of office" "mailing
lists"' in google returns 20,200 pages that claim otherwise.

Clicking I'm Feeling Lucky should be illuminating.

~JasonG

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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Don Andrews
Hmm, good point (about solicited) - I don't like 'em either but can deal
with them.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

Just because you dont like OOO's doesn't mean something is broken or
out of spec.

And I think the point of "unsolicited" could be argued in court that
it very well was solicited by posting to a very public list.


On Jan 28, 2008 4:20 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regardless, the individual still has the option of fixing their own
MUA
> configuration, and should.  This configuration has also been posted.
If
> Co. policy dictates they can't change that, then they have to option
of
> using foo free web mail provider (which can be configured to forward
to
> private email!).  If they are unwilling to do that, then read the
archives
> on the web.
>
> There is absolutely no excuse to send unsolicited OOOs.  The fact that
> others are so lax doesn't make it any less of a problem.
>
>
> ~JasonG

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Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Just because you dont like OOO's doesn't mean something is broken or
out of spec.

And I think the point of "unsolicited" could be argued in court that
it very well was solicited by posting to a very public list.


On Jan 28, 2008 4:20 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regardless, the individual still has the option of fixing their own MUA
> configuration, and should.  This configuration has also been posted.  If
> Co. policy dictates they can't change that, then they have to option of
> using foo free web mail provider (which can be configured to forward to
> private email!).  If they are unwilling to do that, then read the archives
> on the web.
>
> There is absolutely no excuse to send unsolicited OOOs.  The fact that
> others are so lax doesn't make it any less of a problem.
>
>
> ~JasonG

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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Gurtz
> Gee a little testy are we Jason?

Sorry, I'm old school  ;)  For the love of all that is good, this is an
administrators list not some AOL chatroom.  I know it's MS related but
still...

> As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have
> the luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this

Regardless, the individual still has the option of fixing their own MUA
configuration, and should.  This configuration has also been posted.  If
Co. policy dictates they can't change that, then they have to option of
using foo free web mail provider (which can be configured to forward to
private email!).  If they are unwilling to do that, then read the archives
on the web.

There is absolutely no excuse to send unsolicited OOOs.  The fact that
others are so lax doesn't make it any less of a problem.

~JasonG

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Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
And he wonders why people arent listing to him and doing what he tells
them.  ;-)


On Jan 28, 2008 4:08 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gee a little testy are we Jason?
>
> As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have the
> luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this, company policy
> has dictated it to them, so to say that they should be unsubscribed from the
> list is a little harsh.  I am one of those admins that has been told by
> upper management to allow OOO's to the internet.  An attempt by the Lyris
> List Admin a few weeks ago resulted in us not being able to see who the
> messages were from at all, the general consensus by the members of this list
> was that we'll take the OOO's in order to see who the messages are from.
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 2:56 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gee only 8 OOOs.
> >
> > It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
> > configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> > standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
> > because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
> > How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
> > to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> > communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
> > they get unsubscribed.
> >
> > It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> > batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
> > the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> > preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
> > at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> > Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
> >
> > Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
> > in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> > their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
> > is wrong.
> >
> > Thanks for caring,
> >
> > ~JasonG
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>



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Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Gee a little testy are we Jason?

As has been posted here innumerable times some mail admins don't have the
luxury of configuring their Exchange servers not to do this, company policy
has dictated it to them, so to say that they should be unsubscribed from the
list is a little harsh.  I am one of those admins that has been told by
upper management to allow OOO's to the internet.  An attempt by the Lyris
List Admin a few weeks ago resulted in us not being able to see who the
messages were from at all, the general consensus by the members of this list
was that we'll take the OOO's in order to see who the messages are from.

On Jan 28, 2008 2:56 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Gee only 8 OOOs.
>
> It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
> configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
> standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
> because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
> How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
> to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
> communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
> they get unsubscribed.
>
> It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
> batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
> the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
> preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
> at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
> Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".
>
> Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
> in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
> their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
> is wrong.
>
> Thanks for caring,
>
> ~JasonG
>
> --
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>



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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Gurtz
> Gee only 8 OOOs.

It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly
configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to
standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to
because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something).
How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is
to unsubscribe anybody that does this?  Ideally, this policy would be
communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when
they get unsubscribed.

It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o
batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of.  I volunteer to do
the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment
preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms.  I'm
at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western
Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous "ooo moderation".

Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap
in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with
their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something
is wrong.

Thanks for caring,

~JasonG

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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Stephan Barr
Gee only 8 OOOs.

 



From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

 

 

Symantec has been heavy on the client and the server for quite a while.
Avoid it if you can.  It's particularly heinous on the server, IMHO.  As
far as policies, you build those so scheduling is up to you as to when
etc.  It's wise to disallow the user any actions against the client. 

 

Cheers.

 



From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

 

 

Anyone have Symantec installed out on users PC's with the outlook
plugin?  I am concerned about the load put on the server if a user does
a manual scan of all their email.  In my mind this is going to pull down
all their attachments and go through them one by one.  If some default
policy is set to run a manual scan of machines at the same time, this
could means thousands of users pulling down their mail all at the same
time.

 

I'm looking for anyone who has had any experience with this or had any
issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Stephan Barr
Symantec has been heavy on the client and the server for quite a while.
Avoid it if you can.  It's particularly heinous on the server, IMHO.  As
far as policies, you build those so scheduling is up to you as to when
etc.  It's wise to disallow the user any actions against the client. 

 

Cheers.

 



From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

 

 

Anyone have Symantec installed out on users PC's with the outlook
plugin?  I am concerned about the load put on the server if a user does
a manual scan of all their email.  In my mind this is going to pull down
all their attachments and go through them one by one.  If some default
policy is set to run a manual scan of machines at the same time, this
could means thousands of users pulling down their mail all at the same
time.

 

I'm looking for anyone who has had any experience with this or had any
issues.

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load

2008-01-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I dont let users perform any type of manual scans.  They could
unexpectedly put a load on anything.


On Jan 28, 2008 3:16 PM, Boggis, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Anyone have Symantec installed out on users PC's with the outlook plugin?  I
> am concerned about the load put on the server if a user does a manual scan
> of all their email.  In my mind this is going to pull down all their
> attachments and go through them one by one.  If some default policy is set
> to run a manual scan of machines at the same time, this could means
> thousands of users pulling down their mail all at the same time.
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> I'm looking for anyone who has had any experience with this or had any
> issues.
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