RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread Ken Leyba

Yikes!  CA people told me that brick level only should be used for 200 users
max IN ADDITION to the normal backup.  After 200 users your backup window
starts to get very large.  I'd be leery of the CA person that told you that,
it couldn't have been a SE or support person (I'm hoping anyway).

-
Ken Leyba
Windows/Exchange System Administrator
http://www.csudh.edu/exchange
California State University Dominguez Hills
Phone: 310-243-2815 Fax: 310-516-3877


 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:02 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
 
 
 Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not 
 backing up my
 Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that 
 some of you
 can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the 
 Exchange Server /
 individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on
 suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that 
 ArcServeIT software
 worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a 
 colleague
 said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it 
 is backed up
 correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and 
 possibly tell me the
 better way of backing up Exchange.
 
Thank you all in advance for all of your help.
 
 Nick Symiakakis
 Noble Hospital
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread William Lefkovics

What CA person told you that?  I'd like to have a filters.txt word with
him/her.

The correct answer is 0 users max.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?


Yikes!  CA people told me that brick level only should be used for 200 users
max IN ADDITION to the normal backup.  After 200 users your backup window
starts to get very large.  I'd be leery of the CA person that told you that,
it couldn't have been a SE or support person (I'm hoping anyway).

-
Ken Leyba
Windows/Exchange System Administrator
http://www.csudh.edu/exchange
California State University Dominguez Hills
Phone: 310-243-2815 Fax: 310-516-3877


 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:02 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
 
 
 Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not 
 backing up my
 Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that 
 some of you
 can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the 
 Exchange Server /
 individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on
 suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that 
 ArcServeIT software
 worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a 
 colleague
 said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it 
 is backed up
 correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and 
 possibly tell me the
 better way of backing up Exchange.
 
Thank you all in advance for all of your help.
 
 Nick Symiakakis
 Noble Hospital
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread Mark Kelsay

Oh no, where is William?

-Original Message-
From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not backing up my
Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that some of you
can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange Server /
individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on
suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT software
worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a colleague
said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it is backed up
correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and possibly tell me the
better way of backing up Exchange.

   Thank you all in advance for all of your help.

Nick Symiakakis
Noble Hospital
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread Rick Ward - HQ
Title: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?





Then go out and buy a real backup solution, like Veritas Backup Exec or some other brand so long as CA doesn't have ownership of the product.

Opps.. Don't want to start that debate again.. Never mind.. Keep using ArcServe it will be very reliable for you, oh and I always try to use the words trust me will saying that, for those that know what that means.

cheers
Rick grabbing my ankles Ward


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?



I use ArcServe IT 6.61 and do not do brick level backups, only Directory and Info Store. Build a mailbox recovery server, then you can restore the Info store to it and recover email into a pst for a user in need. 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?



Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not backing up my Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that some of you can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange Server / individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT software worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a colleague said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it is backed up correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and possibly tell me the better way of backing up Exchange.

 Thank you all in advance for all of your help.


Nick Symiakakis
Noble Hospital
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Freeman
Title: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?



We have an 
older version of Arcserve purchased about 5 years ago. We've never updated 
because it works just fine for us. I have always been suspicious of software 
companies bring out "updated" versions of software that don't seem to have any 
real improvements. Since I haven't been watching Arcserve, when did it go down 
hill. As a not-for-profit, we can't afford to continually upgrade software just 
to be on the bleeding edge. Thus, when we find that new or upgraded software 
doesn't provide anything but more profits for the manufacturer, we don't 
upgrade.

Murray

  -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:59 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What is the 
  best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
  Then go out and buy a real backup solution, like Veritas 
  Backup Exec or some other brand so long as CA doesn't have ownership of the 
  product.
  Opps.. Don't want to start that debate again.. Never mind.. 
  Keep using ArcServe it will be very reliable for you, oh and I always try to 
  use the words "trust me" will saying that, for those that know what that 
  means.
  cheers Rick "grabbing my ankles" 
  Ward 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:04 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes? 
  I use ArcServe IT 6.61 and do not do brick level backups, only 
  Directory and Info Store. Build a mailbox recovery server, then you can 
  restore the Info store to it and recover email into a pst for a user in need. 
  
  -Original Message- From: Nick 
  Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: What is 
  the best methode of backing up Mailboxes? 
  Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not 
  backing up my Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that 
  some of you can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange 
  Server / individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on 
  suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT software worked 
  best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a colleague said that 
  Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it is backed up correctly. 
  can someone please explain this to me, and possibly tell me the better way of 
  backing up Exchange.
   Thank you all in advance for all of your 
  help. 
  Nick Symiakakis Noble Hospital 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-14 Thread William Lefkovics
Title: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?



I 
would UPGRADE to the free NTBackup app that comes with Windows. At least 
for Exchange.

5 
years ago... it that ArcServeIT 6.5? You know. The one that puts the 
admin password in plain text on the C: drive?

It 
went downhill when Computer Associates bought it from 
Cheyenne.


  -Original Message-From: Murray Freeman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What is the 
  best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
  We have an 
  older version of Arcserve purchased about 5 years ago. We've never updated 
  because it works just fine for us. I have always been suspicious of software 
  companies bring out "updated" versions of software that don't seem to have any 
  real improvements. Since I haven't been watching Arcserve, when did it go down 
  hill. As a not-for-profit, we can't afford to continually upgrade software 
  just to be on the bleeding edge. Thus, when we find that new or upgraded 
  software doesn't provide anything but more profits for the manufacturer, we 
  don't upgrade.
  
  Murray
  
-Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:59 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What is the 
best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
Then go out and buy a real backup solution, like Veritas 
Backup Exec or some other brand so long as CA doesn't have ownership of the 
product.
Opps.. Don't want to start that debate again.. Never mind.. 
Keep using ArcServe it will be very reliable for you, oh and I always try to 
use the words "trust me" will saying that, for those that know what that 
means.
cheers Rick "grabbing my ankles" 
Ward 
-Original Message- From: 
Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:04 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes? 

I use ArcServe IT 6.61 and do not do brick level backups, 
only Directory and Info Store. Build a mailbox recovery server, then you can 
restore the Info store to it and recover email into a pst for a user in 
need. 
-Original Message- From: 
Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: What is 
the best methode of backing up Mailboxes? 
Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not 
backing up my Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that 
some of you can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange 
Server / individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on 
suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT software 
worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a colleague said 
that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it is backed up 
correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and possibly tell me the 
better way of backing up Exchange.
 Thank you all in advance for all of your 
help. 
Nick Symiakakis Noble 
Hospital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-13 Thread David N Precht

NT backup !

-Original Message-
From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?


Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not backing up
my Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that some of
you can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange
Server / individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so
was on suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT
software worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a
colleague said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it
is backed up correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and
possibly tell me the better way of backing up Exchange.

   Thank you all in advance for all of your help.

Nick Symiakakis
Noble Hospital
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Norton

I use ArcServe IT 6.61 and do not do brick level backups, only Directory and
Info Store. Build a mailbox recovery server, then you can restore the Info
store to it and recover email into a pst for a user in need. 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?


Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not backing up my
Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that some of you
can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange Server /
individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so was on
suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT software
worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a colleague
said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it is backed up
correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and possibly tell me the
better way of backing up Exchange.

   Thank you all in advance for all of your help.

Nick Symiakakis
Noble Hospital
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?

2002-03-13 Thread Woodrick, Ed

Remember who the ArcServeIT folks are who told you this, because you
will need to blame it on them when you are unable to restore your server
after a failure.

You need to do a database backup using the Exchange agent. Aside from
taking the server offline, that is the ONLY way to get a recoverable
backup.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Symiakakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:02 PM
Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt
Conversation: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?
Subject: What is the best methode of backing up Mailboxes?


Hi Everyone, I heard it through the grapevine, that I am not backing up
my Exchange Server the best possible way, and I was hoping that some of
you can give me some advice. I am currently backing up the Exchange
Server / individual mailboxes / Brick Level. The reason I am doing so
was on suggestion by the ArcServeIT people. They said that ArcServeIT
software worked best when you only do a brick level backup. But then a
colleague said that Exchange doesn't Flush out certain files, unless it
is backed up correctly. can someone please explain this to me, and
possibly tell me the better way of backing up Exchange.

   Thank you all in advance for all of your help.

Nick Symiakakis
Noble Hospital
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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