Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
Slightly related is this as well : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;295653 Pretty sure the bit about NDR's not being delivered to public folders holds for normal NDR delivery, as well as redirected/copied NDR's described in the article. Thanks Rob - Original Message From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, 12 June, 2008 9:00:10 PM Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Thank you very much Peter! My Google-Fu is slipping.. I didnt come up with anything close to the KB article. Thanks! On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Dahl, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ndr is deleted by Exchange. If you turn up logging you can see the basic information about what message was deleted but it is not as detailed as an NDR would be. Check the More information section of this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900088/en-us Thanks, Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Right. But how about in this case: The message is being originated from a web-app, being sent via an authenticated connection to my Exchange server. Failure NDRs do not seem to be landing back to the return-path (assigned to a public folder). However, status delay NDRs do. Its just the failure replies that seem to not. I'm perplexed to say the least. If a PF can indeed accept a failure NDR, then my next guess is that the 'envelope sender' used by the .NET hook is perhaps different that what the web guys configured as the return-path... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
yep yep, but thanks for passing this along. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:01 AM, ROBERT WILCOX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly related is this as well : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;295653 Pretty sure the bit about NDR's not being delivered to public folders holds for normal NDR delivery, as well as redirected/copied NDR's described in the article. Thanks Rob - Original Message From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, 12 June, 2008 9:00:10 PM Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Thank you very much Peter! My Google-Fu is slipping.. I didnt come up with anything close to the KB article. Thanks! On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Dahl, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ndr is deleted by Exchange. If you turn up logging you can see the basic information about what message was deleted but it is not as detailed as an NDR would be. Check the More information section of this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900088/en-us Thanks, Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Right. But how about in this case: The message is being originated from a web-app, being sent via an authenticated connection to my Exchange server. Failure NDRs do not seem to be landing back to the return-path (assigned to a public folder). However, status delay NDRs do. Its just the failure replies that seem to not. I'm perplexed to say the least. If a PF can indeed accept a failure NDR, then my next guess is that the 'envelope sender' used by the .NET hook is perhaps different that what the web guys configured as the return-path... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
In a word - no. I thought I wrote an article about this once, but I can't find it. So, it's time to write one. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
Its a shame that the behavior is inconsistant. 4xx class messages will be received, but 5xx wont. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a word - no. I thought I wrote an article about this once, but I can't find it. So, it's time to write one. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
Right. But how about in this case: The message is being originated from a web-app, being sent via an authenticated connection to my Exchange server. Failure NDRs do not seem to be landing back to the return-path (assigned to a public folder). However, status delay NDRs do. Its just the failure replies that seem to not. I'm perplexed to say the least. If a PF can indeed accept a failure NDR, then my next guess is that the 'envelope sender' used by the .NET hook is perhaps different that what the web guys configured as the return-path... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
The ndr is deleted by Exchange. If you turn up logging you can see the basic information about what message was deleted but it is not as detailed as an NDR would be. Check the More information section of this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900088/en-us Thanks, Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Right. But how about in this case: The message is being originated from a web-app, being sent via an authenticated connection to my Exchange server. Failure NDRs do not seem to be landing back to the return-path (assigned to a public folder). However, status delay NDRs do. Its just the failure replies that seem to not. I'm perplexed to say the least. If a PF can indeed accept a failure NDR, then my next guess is that the 'envelope sender' used by the .NET hook is perhaps different that what the web guys configured as the return-path... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports?
Thank you very much Peter! My Google-Fu is slipping.. I didnt come up with anything close to the KB article. Thanks! On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Dahl, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ndr is deleted by Exchange. If you turn up logging you can see the basic information about what message was deleted but it is not as detailed as an NDR would be. Check the More information section of this article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900088/en-us Thanks, Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can Public Folders receive NDR failure reports? Right. But how about in this case: The message is being originated from a web-app, being sent via an authenticated connection to my Exchange server. Failure NDRs do not seem to be landing back to the return-path (assigned to a public folder). However, status delay NDRs do. Its just the failure replies that seem to not. I'm perplexed to say the least. If a PF can indeed accept a failure NDR, then my next guess is that the 'envelope sender' used by the .NET hook is perhaps different that what the web guys configured as the return-path... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking mail enabled folders? usually it is the person who sends as that gets the NDR... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::Exchange 2003 From what I am seeing, the answer is no - but I never would have guesses this would be true. Is there a reghack I need to apply in order to receive server-generated NDR failures? Odd thing is that delay status messages appear to work fine, but failure messages do not. TIA! -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
