Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread David Weiser

Tom Snell wrote:

> Matt Stegman wrote:
>
> > I don't know about Coppermine and such -
> > I need to keep up to date with this - but I do know that AMD's Athlon is
> > the first i786 processor to be sold.
>
> OK,since Mandrake docs don't seem to address the issue (no doubt due to the
> 'newness' of the CPU), how should an Athlon be designated in a kernel
> recompile, and will there be a distinct "Athlon" optimization in future
> kernel versions?  Anyone know?
>
> Tom

I have seen the Anthlon code in the newer kernals "2.3.?"





Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)

2000-04-19 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Joeuse a dos or windows9x boot disc with fdisk on it and
type:

fdisk /mbr

NT uses the same mbr bootstrap as dos and windows9x.

Alan


Joseph S Gardner wrote:
> 
> Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help.
> 
> I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it.
> I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first
> 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot.
> 
> Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I
> selected my monitor (Magnvox 17"  with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it
> dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help
> switch.  The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on
> it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on
> the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that.
> 
> I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain
> is fried and don't know where to look.  Any pointers?
> 
> If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this
> works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any
> further than I already have.
> 
>  --  Joe Gardner
> Handi Krafts
> www.handi-krafts.com
> 
> Linux is like a wigwam,
> No windows, no gates,
> and Apache inside
> 
> Registered linux user #1696600
> ICQ # 68118000



Re: [expert] USB NIC?

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

"John D. Kim" wrote:
> 
> The kernel has some USB support, but it is very outdated.  You can
> download a backport of usb from kernel 2.3.50 to 2.2.14.  I got myself a
> Linksys 100TX for my iopener.  Haven't had a chance to play with it yet,
> though...  The backport can be downloaded from...lets see if I can find
> it...

Just a minute, please ... "100TX" seems to apply to a 100Mbit NIC, no
???

Isn't USB limited to 12 Mbit anyway ??? (until USB 2.0 which is not
yet
implemented on current motherboards AFAIK).

-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Mike Corbeil wrote:
> This is fine with me, though.  The only condition I'ld see as important to use
> *dm would be if it provided increased or enhanced security, but I don't know
> enough about these, yet, to be able to say.
> 
> Do *dm provide enhanced security, or just a fancier login interface?

The short answer is: the latter (just a fancier login).

The long answer is: although the graphic login doesn't have any 
_direct_ security advantage, when it's enabled ALL your users
login directly into X. Then, if you configure the few special
clients (xterm, kvt, etc...) that allow console mode, you might
prevent most of your users to EVER use console mode, and _this_
can have security advantages ... OTOH, of course, there might
be valid reasons that your users have to have console mode. YMMV 


-- 
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74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Ken Archer wrote:
> 
> That only takes you directly to a console login.  When you use startx from the
> console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen.  I'm trying cut out that
> step.

No, no, and no !!! If you are logged in in console mode (text mode)
and you invoke startx, it does NOT invoke kdm's login screen, since
you are ALREADY logged in !!! It just starts X along with whatever
window manager and clients you have defined in your config files.


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old Linux fan



[expert] PalmPilot and StarOffice

2000-04-19 Thread Stephen F. Bosch


Fantastic!

I have a solution to the PalmPilot config and sync troubles in
StarOffice, and I will post it as soon as I return from vacation next
Wednesday.

WOO HOO!

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Booting problem-----more

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

J D wrote:

> okay, i figured out what is wrong.  my hard drive has all of a sudden become
> read only.

It's normally read-only during a fair portion of the boot process; however,
before this process ends, the filesystems are remounted rw, normally.

>  i didn't think this was possible, but here i am.
> what i don't understand is how it got that way, and how to fix it.  any help
> would be great.
>
> also, i have looked in my fstab file.  for some reason, only stuff for the
> zip drive is there.  now, considering i don't know very much, i think that
> that is a major problem.

Definitely.  The various filesystems for your Linux configuration should
definitely be in the fstab file.

If youc can, then provide copies of your /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf files.

You should also include the output of dmesg.  Redirect the output of dmesg to a
file which you'ld then copy+paste, through what ever means  you  wish, into the
body of the email.

dmesg > dmesg.out 2>&1

This should or must be run as root (don't know if it can be run as any other
user).

Don't send as attachments, because I, for one anyway, certainly won't open
them.  Very rare is the attachment that I'll open.  Do a copy+paste, or insert
the texts by other means.

I'ld definitely suggest that people not use attachments in these mailing lists;
just a general rule of thumb.

If you don't know of a way to do this and you're, for example, using netscape,
then open an additional navigator window, open the text file in that window, do
a Select All, Copy, and then paste into the body of the email message.  This is
one way which definitely works, with netscape 4.05 anyway.

mike



>
>
> >From: Mike Corbeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [expert] Booting problem-more
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:22:47 -0400
> >
> >J D wrote:
> >
> > > i got into linuxconf.  when i got to access local volumes, all it has
> >is:
> > >
> > > /dev/zip for source, /mnt/zip for mount point, vfat for FsType.
> > > it says it three times.  there is nothing else.  could this be the
> >source of
> > > my problems?  i think i know what's going on, but since i'm new to this,
> >i
> > > don't want to get ahead of myself.
> >
> >Understandable.
> >
> >Add the dos drive or partitions, if that's what you want to do; however,
> >you
> >need to know what the /dev/{filename} is.  You can find that out with
> >fdisk.
> >If your dos partition is on the first hdd, then run fdisk without any
> >arguments; if on the second hdd, then run with /dev/hdb for an argument.
> >The
> >screen you need to use is Config | Boot, instead of Config | Filesystems.
> >
> >mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On the other hand, that's for adding filesystem fstab mounts, whereas I
> >believe
> >what you're trying to do is to configure lilo for a boot manager.
> >
> >In this case, you need to provide the following information:
> >
> >- the contents of your lilo.conf file, and
> >
> >- what hdd your dos boot partition is on, hda or hdb.
> >
> >Also, look using either fdisk, or looking at your fstab file, to see which
> >/dev/hd[ab]{n} device file your dos boot partition is mapped to.  If it's
> >at
> >the beginning of hda, then it's probably /dev/hda1, and in this case, if
> >you
> >want to place lilo boot manager in the MBR (master boot record), then you
> >need
> >to make sure that the first line of your lilo.conf file (in the /etc
> >directory)
> >is
> >
> > boot = /dev/ hda
> >
> >You can configure lilo using linuxconf, but you described the wrong screen,
> >above.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)

2000-04-19 Thread Craig Woods

Joseph S Gardner wrote:

> Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help.
>
> I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it.
> I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first
> 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot.
>
> Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I
> selected my monitor (Magnvox 17"  with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it
> dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help
> switch.  The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on
> it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on
> the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that.
>
> I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain
> is fried and don't know where to look.  Any pointers?
>
> If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this
> works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any
> further than I already have.
>
>  --  Joe Gardner
> Handi Krafts
> www.handi-krafts.com
>
> Linux is like a wigwam,
> No windows, no gates,
> and Apache inside
>
> Registered linux user #1696600
> ICQ # 68118000

All is not lost, yes, run a fdisk /MBR. That should bring back your NT
loader. If this is a bit new, even with considerable "hacking" skills, I
would play it safe. During install, make a floppy to boot to Linux boot
point, such as /boot, this being where you created /boot on a
/dev/hda,b,c?. Try this until you become comfortable editing files, such
as lilo.conf...good luck.

Craig


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Re: [expert] 'wrong charset' message.

2000-04-19 Thread Guillermo Belli

I already did that, but I'm still getting this message. Setting all the
languages to one language instead of default worked for MDK 5.3 ad 6.0 though.

John Aldrich, escribió:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> > How do I get rid of the "wrong charset" KDE message? It's a little annoying.
> > 
> Go into KDE Control Center and set ALL your languages to
> one language instead of "default."
>   John
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Re: [expert] Booting problem-----more

2000-04-19 Thread J D

okay, i figured out what is wrong.  my hard drive has all of a sudden become 
read only.  i didn't think this was possible, but here i am.
what i don't understand is how it got that way, and how to fix it.  any help 
would be great.

also, i have looked in my fstab file.  for some reason, only stuff for the 
zip drive is there.  now, considering i don't know very much, i think that 
that is a major problem.



>From: Mike Corbeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] Booting problem-more
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:22:47 -0400
>
>J D wrote:
>
> > i got into linuxconf.  when i got to access local volumes, all it has 
>is:
> >
> > /dev/zip for source, /mnt/zip for mount point, vfat for FsType.
> > it says it three times.  there is nothing else.  could this be the 
>source of
> > my problems?  i think i know what's going on, but since i'm new to this, 
>i
> > don't want to get ahead of myself.
>
>Understandable.
>
>Add the dos drive or partitions, if that's what you want to do; however, 
>you
>need to know what the /dev/{filename} is.  You can find that out with 
>fdisk.
>If your dos partition is on the first hdd, then run fdisk without any
>arguments; if on the second hdd, then run with /dev/hdb for an argument.  
>The
>screen you need to use is Config | Boot, instead of Config | Filesystems.
>
>mike
>
>
>
>
>On the other hand, that's for adding filesystem fstab mounts, whereas I 
>believe
>what you're trying to do is to configure lilo for a boot manager.
>
>In this case, you need to provide the following information:
>
>- the contents of your lilo.conf file, and
>
>- what hdd your dos boot partition is on, hda or hdb.
>
>Also, look using either fdisk, or looking at your fstab file, to see which
>/dev/hd[ab]{n} device file your dos boot partition is mapped to.  If it's 
>at
>the beginning of hda, then it's probably /dev/hda1, and in this case, if 
>you
>want to place lilo boot manager in the MBR (master boot record), then you 
>need
>to make sure that the first line of your lilo.conf file (in the /etc 
>directory)
>is
>
> boot = /dev/ hda
>
>You can configure lilo using linuxconf, but you described the wrong screen,
>above.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Brook humphrey

if it takes you back to kdm then there is something wrong. after you
have logged in and typed startx it should drop you into x with no kdm. I
done it plenty of times.

Ken Archer wrote:
> 
> That only takes you directly to a console login.  When you use startx from the
> console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen.  I'm trying cut out that
> step.
> 
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > edit the file
> >
> > /etc/inittab
> >
> > change the line that says
> >
> > id:5:initdefault
> >
> > to
> >
> > id:3:initdefault
> >
> > that should do it.
> --
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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer

That only takes you directly to a console login.  When you use startx from the
console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen.  I'm trying cut out that
step.

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Mike Corbeil wrote:
> edit the file 
> 
> /etc/inittab
> 
> change the line that says
> 
> id:5:initdefault
> 
> to
> 
> id:3:initdefault
> 
> that should do it.
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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Matt Stegman


/etc/inittab

You're looking to change the runlevel (aka initlevel) that you boot
into.  I don't remember the syntax; but inittab is well commented.  You
should have no problem figuring it out.

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Ken Archer wrote:
> Now I would rather go directly to a consol screen and then, using
> "startx" go directly to my window manager of choice as set up in
> ~/.xinitrc.  What I can't find is the file to edit to take kdm out of
> the process.




[expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)

2000-04-19 Thread Joseph S Gardner

Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help.

I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. 
I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first
2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot.

Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I
selected my monitor (Magnvox 17"  with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it
dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help
switch.  The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on
it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on
the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that.

I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain
is fried and don't know where to look.  Any pointers?

If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this
works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any
further than I already have.




 --  Joe Gardner
Handi Krafts
www.handi-krafts.com

Linux is like a wigwam,
No windows, no gates,
and Apache inside

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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Brook humphrey



Mike Corbeil wrote:
> 
> Ken Archer wrote:
> 
> > Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security,
> > but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers.
> > Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default
> > is to bring up Kdm.  Now I would rather go directly to a consol screen and
> > then, using "startx" go directly to my window manager of choice as set up in
> > ~/.xinitrc.  What I can't find is the file to edit to take kdm out of the
> > process.

edit the file 

/etc/inittab

change the line that says

id:5:initdefault

to

id:3:initdefault

that should do it.



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

Ken Archer wrote:

> Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security,
> but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers.
> Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default
> is to bring up Kdm.  Now I would rather go directly to a consol screen and
> then, using "startx" go directly to my window manager of choice as set up in
> ~/.xinitrc.  What I can't find is the file to edit to take kdm out of the
> process.
>

If you're using KDE, then check through the online HELP available in the
KDE desktop.  I remember reading about switching gdm for kdm and then doing the
reverse, when I first installed KDE, but don't recall what the commands were.  There
should be documentation through KDE Help, which should be accessible through at least
the KDE K menu.

However, I seem to also recall reading about some gui login manager which allows
choosing which wm to login to.  Am not sure where you'ld find the documentation on
this, but if a gui login provides enhanced security, then maybe you'll want to search
for this info, before switching modes.

If you definitely want to switch to console login, then another thing you can try is
looking through the configuration files under /etc.  Maybe this would be defined in a
file in the /etc/rc.d directory or one of the subdirectories, perhaps the
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file, or /etc/rc.d/init.d/{some-file}, or some other file under
/etc/rc.d.  Might also be in some file in /etc.  I don't think it'ld be under
/etc/X11/, but may be.

I've resolved a number of problems and performed tasks by learning this way;
therefore, it's definitely do-able, and sometimes faster than asking in a mailing
list.

You should have some configuration howto for the Mandrake distribution, or Linux in
general.  Take a quick look through these HOWTOs.  I think that the ones for
configuring linux aren't bad.

mike


>  Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> > >
> >
> > [snipped]
> >
> > > Not the same thing. To use the graphical login, you _have to_
> > > be _booting_ in graphical mode, i.e. you have to configure
> > > init to start directly in graphical mode.
> >
> > > In your current situation, if you get a text login, it's
> > > because your init is configured that way, and so you don't
> > > use *dm. You probably can find some *getty in ps output.
> >
> > Exactly.  There are no *dm instances in the output of
> >
> > ps aux
> >
> > but there are several *getty running.
> >
> > This is fine with me, though.  The only condition I'ld see as important to use
> > *dm would be if it provided increased or enhanced security, but I don't know
> > enough about these, yet, to be able to say.
> >
> > Do *dm provide enhanced security, or just a fancier login interface?
> >
> > I should try them just to see what the gui's look like, albeit probably
> > something like on Solaris and gui or character doesn't make any difference; only
> > gui looking prettier.  If there's a security difference, though, then a la gui
> > login I'll switch to.
> >
> > mike
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Re: [expert] Booting problem-----more

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

J D wrote:

> i got into linuxconf.  when i got to access local volumes, all it has is:
>
> /dev/zip for source, /mnt/zip for mount point, vfat for FsType.
> it says it three times.  there is nothing else.  could this be the source of
> my problems?  i think i know what's going on, but since i'm new to this, i
> don't want to get ahead of myself.

Understandable.

Add the dos drive or partitions, if that's what you want to do; however, you
need to know what the /dev/{filename} is.  You can find that out with fdisk.
If your dos partition is on the first hdd, then run fdisk without any
arguments; if on the second hdd, then run with /dev/hdb for an argument.  The
screen you need to use is Config | Boot, instead of Config | Filesystems.

mike




On the other hand, that's for adding filesystem fstab mounts, whereas I believe
what you're trying to do is to configure lilo for a boot manager.

In this case, you need to provide the following information:

- the contents of your lilo.conf file, and

- what hdd your dos boot partition is on, hda or hdb.

Also, look using either fdisk, or looking at your fstab file, to see which
/dev/hd[ab]{n} device file your dos boot partition is mapped to.  If it's at
the beginning of hda, then it's probably /dev/hda1, and in this case, if you
want to place lilo boot manager in the MBR (master boot record), then you need
to make sure that the first line of your lilo.conf file (in the /etc directory)
is

boot = /dev/ hda

You can configure lilo using linuxconf, but you described the wrong screen,
above.







Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-19 Thread Vincent Danen

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> > > I haven't received a message from the group for 24-hours, is the mail
> > > server down? 
> > 
> > I don't know.  I'm really stuck here and was hoping the list could help me
> > out... what an inopportune time to have these problems!  =(
> > 
> > Anyways, consider this something of a test as well.  I do get the
> > occasional message... maybe everyone took holidays at the same time?  
> > 
> I don't know what to tell you two, but it appears to be a
> selective loss of email addresses. I've been getting mail
> on the "expert" list no problem.

That's really wierd, John.  The cooker list comes in fine, but expert was
really empty yesterday...  haven't had a chance to look yet today so
hopefully it was a minor burp and nothing more.

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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer

If you have a multi-user system, the login manager has some advantages because
it allows you to select who has shutdown priveleges, etc.  It also has an
additional password screen for further protection.  If you have a single-user
system, I can't see any real advantage to a login manager.  On a single-user
system I use guichooser to simplify chosing which window manager I want to use.
 I have eight of them installed.

> I'll need to read up on the advantages of one mode over the other.  I
> don't mind console mode, but always run startx when I want to work in a
> gui desktop environment, and have no problems using a terminal window to
> do much of my work.  I don't mind command line mode and definitely don't
> see any real advantage with MS Windows in this respect.  I spend much
> time in terminal windows, and the programming editor I normally use is
> vim (not even bothering with gvim).
> 
> However, if there's an enhanced security advantage using kdm or gdm or
> xdm boot mode, then I would definitely switch.  Otherwise, am in no
> hurry to do so.
> 
> Is there such an advantage booting with these as the boot mode?
> 
> mike
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Re: [expert] telnet and X

2000-04-19 Thread Pat Mc

Valjean wrote:

>This is really frustrating meall I want to do is telnet into my
> machine running Mandrake 7.0..when I installed it the first time, I
> could do it.  Every install since then I have not not been able to.  I
> have installed the telnet server package from the second cd with the
> rpm -ivh packagename.rpm and the telnet line is uncommented in my
> /etc/inetd.conf...so why can't I telnet to my machine?  is there some
> other thing to setup?  What do I have to do to get this thing to work?
>
> And how do I switch the default windows manager that comes up when I use
> the startx command?  I am using Gnome..but I'd like Window Maker.
> Valjean

I'm having a similar problem.  I can connect to the box but then the error
"connection closed by foreign host" . ftp conections work fine and Apache
is fine.

Pat




[Cooker] adduser problems

2000-04-19 Thread duncan

I need to be able to add a user that is a number

When I try I get the following results.

[root@duncan www]# adduser 0413565739
adduser: invalid user name `0413565739'

I have only tried this on cooker and 7.0 and dont know if this is
something new or not.

Any thoughts?

Dunc




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Re: [expert] printer and charachters

2000-04-19 Thread Alen Salamun

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am trying to print stuff out in Greek. I have the fonts installed on my
> machine. And I have written my papers using the ISO-8859-7 charset. But when I
> print is gives me gibrish. How do I fix that?
hi!

Depends from WHERE you try to print! Maybe you will need enscript,
maybee ogonkify...

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[expert] Booting problem-----more

2000-04-19 Thread J D

i got into linuxconf.  when i got to access local volumes, all it has is:

/dev/zip for source, /mnt/zip for mount point, vfat for FsType.
it says it three times.  there is nothing else.  could this be the source of 
my problems?  i think i know what's going on, but since i'm new to this, i 
don't want to get ahead of myself.
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Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread Tom Snell

Matt Stegman wrote:

> I don't know about Coppermine and such -
> I need to keep up to date with this - but I do know that AMD's Athlon is
> the first i786 processor to be sold.

OK,since Mandrake docs don't seem to address the issue (no doubt due to the
'newness' of the CPU), how should an Athlon be designated in a kernel
recompile, and will there be a distinct "Athlon" optimization in future
kernel versions?  Anyone know?

Tom




Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer

Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security,
but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers. 
Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default
is to bring up Kdm.  Now I would rather go directly to a consol screen and
then, using "startx" go directly to my window manager of choice as set up in
~/.xinitrc.  What I can't find is the file to edit to take kdm out of the
process.

 Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> 
> > Mike Corbeil wrote:
> >
> 
> [snipped]
> 
> > Not the same thing. To use the graphical login, you _have to_
> > be _booting_ in graphical mode, i.e. you have to configure
> > init to start directly in graphical mode.
> 
> > In your current situation, if you get a text login, it's
> > because your init is configured that way, and so you don't
> > use *dm. You probably can find some *getty in ps output.
> 
> Exactly.  There are no *dm instances in the output of
> 
> ps aux
> 
> but there are several *getty running.
> 
> This is fine with me, though.  The only condition I'ld see as important to use
> *dm would be if it provided increased or enhanced security, but I don't know
> enough about these, yet, to be able to say.
> 
> Do *dm provide enhanced security, or just a fancier login interface?
> 
> I should try them just to see what the gui's look like, albeit probably
> something like on Solaris and gui or character doesn't make any difference; only
> gui looking prettier.  If there's a security difference, though, then a la gui
> login I'll switch to.
> 
> mike
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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

John Aldrich wrote:

> KDM/GDM/XDM only work when you're booting into GUI mode.
> They do NOT work when you boot to console mode.
> John

I'll need to read up on the advantages of one mode over the other.  I
don't mind console mode, but always run startx when I want to work in a
gui desktop environment, and have no problems using a terminal window to
do much of my work.  I don't mind command line mode and definitely don't
see any real advantage with MS Windows in this respect.  I spend much
time in terminal windows, and the programming editor I normally use is
vim (not even bothering with gvim).

However, if there's an enhanced security advantage using kdm or gdm or
xdm boot mode, then I would definitely switch.  Otherwise, am in no
hurry to do so.

Is there such an advantage booting with these as the boot mode?

mike







Re: [expert] 'wrong charset' message.

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Go into KDE Control Center and set ALL your languages to
> > one language instead of "default."
> >  John
> 
> This may work or it may not (depending on I-don't-know-what). On my box it 
> doesn't work, but you may be more fortunate.
> 
> The advice on the KDE site is to the effect of: "start the program from an 
> icon instead of from a console". The charset messages are annoying, but 
> they don't indicate a problem.
> 
It works for MOST peoplefor some strange reason, it
doesn't work for everyone. Still, as you indicate, it's not
an indication of a problem. IIRC, that's just some "debug
code" that got left in, according to the KDE folkx. It's a
FAQ. :-)
John



[expert] Booting problem

2000-04-19 Thread J D

okay, i'm still pretty new at this, so be nice.
i have a problem when i boot up my box.  this is what i get.

Checking root filesystems
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 
filesystem (and not swap or ufs of something else), then the superblock is 
corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
   e2fsck -b 8193 

fsck.ext2:  Is a directory while trying to open /

  [FAILED]

***An error occured during the file system check.
***Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
***when you leave the shell.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal setup):

Control-D just reboots the system, and i end up back where i started.  i 
tried running e2fsck with a different superblock, but it just gives me the 
same message.  i really don't know what is going on, but any advise would 
help.

by the way:
Mandrake 7.0
kernal 2.2.14 (i think)
pentuim mmx 166
64 ram
nothing really special after that

i tried getting my zip drive to work right before this happened.  i could 
not get the zip to mount.  it gave me any error message, which i can't think 
of.  i don't know if this matters, but i thought i'd let you know.


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[expert] printer and charachters

2000-04-19 Thread serenis


I am trying to print stuff out in Greek. I have the fonts installed on my
machine. And I have written my papers using the ISO-8859-7 charset. But when I
print is gives me gibrish. How do I fix that?

Thank you

John



Re: [expert] Re: Dependency help

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

> Mike Corbeil wrote:
>
> > [snipped]
> >
> > > Well, if you *only* do --nodeps that's probably true, but if you use
> > > --force you can get in trouble: the un-install could un-install stuff
> > > that was really installed already.
> >
> > un-install usually means removing stuff that was already installed, as far
> > as I'm aware.However, guessing, --nodeps could also cause problems.
> > According to the aforementioned referenced documentation, --nodeps can
> > install an app and this might work, but it can also cause other apps to be
> > "broken", and I don't have any difficulty believe that this is definitely
> > possible, and does happen.
>
> Uninstall only un-installs what the package *thinks* it installed; once
> you start messing around with the rpm options you can confuse this
> process.

Uninstall can only remove something which has been installed, previously,
regardless of whether the uninstall works correctly or not.  You cannot delete
something which doesn't exist.

However, it is important to know that rpm can be caused to screw up, albeit this
should not happen and is indicative of bugginess.


> I have found that the best approach is to install/re-install individual
> packages from hither & yon as infrequently as possible; unless you have
> some specific reason to do so, stick to the packages that all came
> together on your distribution.

There's no reason to install or reinstall unless the package is of use.  Over
the past couple of months, I've reinstalled many packages, because I'm upgrading
the distribution and many packages need to be upgraded.  This is one example
where installing updates is important.

Of course, I could purchase a new boxed edition, delete the old configuration
and install the new one, but I'm doing the upgrade manually.  In the process,
I'm learning considerably, and learning is important, if not essential;
essential for me anyway, because working with computers isn't a mere hobby for
me.  This also happens to help find bugs and therefore help to improve tools or
applications.

For entire newbies, I'ld suggest installing from a packaged cdrom.

> I, at least, find it easier to just backup my system and re-install
> periodically just to "keep up with what's new" and only install
> piecemeal when I have a specific bug or problem.

That's the recommended way, but if doing upgrades entirely with downloads, and
upgrading is definitely appropriate, as it is in my case, then this is an
exception.  I believe this is covered in the Software Building HOWTO, or is in
some other LDP documentation.

In the process, I'm learning ample, and have already discovered a couple of
bugs, perhaps one only being a near bug, which will be useful in improving the
reliability, fool proofness, of the tool these bugs occurred with.

A very important and useful approach to developing sw is to apply the "what if"
strategy or approach.  "What if the user does ..., will our sw be able to handle
the situation, and is it worth considering, because developing sw does require
time?".  Often, sw is developed with inadequate emphasis on the "what if"
approach, but that's the only  way to develop reliable sw the first time,
instead of relying on end users or customers having problems with one's sw.

Zacharie Richard sang "travailler est trop dur et voler n'est pas beau", but
there was no real conclusion ("working is too difficult or hard and stealing
isn't nice").

mike



> >
> > > You might try rpmdrake; it can resolve dependencies and install them all
> > > automatically.
> >
> > Thanks for that point.  Definitely sounds better than the rpm I'm currently
> > using, 3.0.2.  I've already found a couple of "bugs" with this version, one
> > when erasing or removing 3.0.2 after it's been installed "next" to a prior
> > version, and the other being that I now, somehow, have three instances of
> > 3.0.2 reported with rpm -qa.  Not sure how the latter happened, but
> > definitely seems wrong.
>
> rpmdrake is a GUI on top of RPM, not a replacement rpm.
> In general packages don't install next to other packages, they replace
> them.
> I know of no reason why it wouldn't work with RH.
>
> >
> > On the other hand, the first bug is easy to recover from once one knows
> > how, especially if there's another Linux configuration files and
> > directories can be copied from, and the second bug doesn't prevent rpm from
> > working; just that there are more instances reported by rpm -qa than
> > necessary.  Guessing, I believe that this may be more of a rpm database
> > tracking error, but harmless.
> >
> > I'll take a look into rpmdrake, and believe it works for both Mandrake and
> > RH.
> >
> > Screwed up my test/build system tonight doing configure, make and make
> > install, for glibc2 2.x.x .tar.gz archive.  Can't boot into that
> > configuration any longer and now need to figure out how to undo  or
> > repair.  That teaches me one lesson, to not install to /usr, but instead as
> >

RE: [expert] Odd APache Behaviour

2000-04-19 Thread Wizaerd

thanx...  SInce I'm new to this, I've been using the chown command instead
of chmod...  time to fire up the ole 'man chmod'

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Woods
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:13 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Odd APache Behaviour
>
>
>
> Joseph,
>
> >   I could change the ownership of it to that regular user,
> > but then other users wouldn't be able to use it (and I need
> multiple users
> > to access it since we're all learning this thing together on my
> > computer...).
>
> It seems like you're complicating this. why not just do
>   chmod 666 file
> for regular files, or
>   chmod 777 file
> for executable files.
>
> These permissions will allow ANY user to do whatever they want
> ... including deleting it.
>
> Thanks... Dan.
>




Re: [expert] USB NIC?

2000-04-19 Thread Marcos Dione

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Alen Salamun wrote:

> Hoyt wrote:
> > 
> > I heard that 7.0 has some USB support. True?
> > 
> > Anyone using a USB ethernet card? Which one?
> Hi!
> 
> Yes USB patches are applied to the kernel, but I haven't tried it out
> yet :)

ur... IFAIK, it's only keyboard and mouse usb support... gotta
wait till kernel 2.4 comes out for other kindda things.


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Re: [expert] 'wrong charset' message.

2000-04-19 Thread D. R. Evans

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On 19 Apr 00, at 10:40, John Aldrich wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> > How do I get rid of the "wrong charset" KDE message? It's a little
> > annoying.
> > 
> Go into KDE Control Center and set ALL your languages to
> one language instead of "default."
>  John

This may work or it may not (depending on I-don't-know-what). On my box it 
doesn't work, but you may be more fortunate.

The advice on the KDE site is to the effect of: "start the program from an 
icon instead of from a console". The charset messages are annoying, but 
they don't indicate a problem.

  Doc Evans



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Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, james.fogg wrote:
> >
> > > BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> > > P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> > > designation?
> 
> The S is not an actual model designation. It's an artifact of certain
> versions of the Award BIOS, which identify standard "Pentia" as "S"
> models.
> 
> Intel doesn't recognize this designation, to the best of my knowledge.
> 
Stephen:
Please see my earlier post as to chip identification direct
from Intel's website.
John



Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > > -> What is the recommended minimum speed/memory for Comp A ?
> > > -> Is a P75/90 with 64 MB enough ?  Will this affect the speed noticed
> > > -> by Comp B and C when using the internet ?  Does any of this not matter
> > > -> as long as Comp A's network card is at least 10 Mps ?
> > > 
> > > Overkill, actually. I use a 486/dx66 with 16 MB of physical memory. You
> > > might be able to get away with a 386/25, I haven't tried it.
> 
FWIW, I've seen where you can get a COMPLETE P133 machine
(minus monitor) for about $120. The URL for the site is
www.hightechcafe.com. The url for the $120 machine is 
http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=14&sku=D3977A
They also have a slightly different machine for $130.
John



Re: [expert] USB NIC?

2000-04-19 Thread John D. Kim

The kernel has some USB support, but it is very outdated.  You can
download a backport of usb from kernel 2.3.50 to 2.2.14.  I got myself a
Linksys 100TX for my iopener.  Haven't had a chance to play with it yet,
though...  The backport can be downloaded from...lets see if I can find
it...

http://www.suse.cz/development/usb-backport/


John Kim
Linux System Engineer @ ASL - visit us as www.aslab.com

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Hoyt wrote:

> I heard that 7.0 has some USB support. True?
> 
> Anyone using a USB ethernet card? Which one?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Hoyt
> 
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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil

Jean-Louis Debert wrote:

> Mike Corbeil wrote:
>

[snipped]

> Not the same thing. To use the graphical login, you _have to_
> be _booting_ in graphical mode, i.e. you have to configure
> init to start directly in graphical mode.

> In your current situation, if you get a text login, it's
> because your init is configured that way, and so you don't
> use *dm. You probably can find some *getty in ps output.

Exactly.  There are no *dm instances in the output of

ps aux

but there are several *getty running.

This is fine with me, though.  The only condition I'ld see as important to use
*dm would be if it provided increased or enhanced security, but I don't know
enough about these, yet, to be able to say.

Do *dm provide enhanced security, or just a fancier login interface?

I should try them just to see what the gui's look like, albeit probably
something like on Solaris and gui or character doesn't make any difference; only
gui looking prettier.  If there's a security difference, though, then a la gui
login I'll switch to.

mike





Re: [expert] USB NIC?

2000-04-19 Thread Alen Salamun

Hoyt wrote:
> 
> I heard that 7.0 has some USB support. True?
> 
> Anyone using a USB ethernet card? Which one?
Hi!

Yes USB patches are applied to the kernel, but I haven't tried it out
yet :)

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Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, james.fogg wrote:
>
> > BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> > P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> > designation?

The S is not an actual model designation. It's an artifact of certain
versions of the Award BIOS, which identify standard "Pentia" as "S"
models.

Intel doesn't recognize this designation, to the best of my knowledge.

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Odd APache Behaviour

2000-04-19 Thread Daniel Woods


Joseph,

>   I could change the ownership of it to that regular user,
> but then other users wouldn't be able to use it (and I need multiple users
> to access it since we're all learning this thing together on my
> computer...).

It seems like you're complicating this. why not just do
chmod 666 file
for regular files, or
chmod 777 file
for executable files.

These permissions will allow ANY user to do whatever they want
... including deleting it.

Thanks... Dan.



Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-19 Thread Daniel Woods


> Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:37:04AM -0600, Daniel Woods wrote:
> > ->
> > -> > Assuming your ISP is providing you with only a single IP address, you want
> > -> > something along these lines:
> > -> >
> > -> > ++
> > -> > | Comp B |---\+---+
> > -> > ++\---| H |  ++ +---+
> > -> >   | u |--| Comp A |-| Modem |
> > -> > ++/---| b |  ++ +---+
> > -> > | Comp C |---/+---+
> > -> > ++
>
> Why purchase another machine at all?  Install a second network interface
> card into Comp B and connect it in the diagram as Comp A.  It'll cost ya
> about $10-20 for a nic.

I do have a second NIC, but this still leaves Comp A vulnerable to attack
if it's connected to the cable modem.  Comp B is my development machine
and placing it as Comp A might be risky.  Is this a valid assumption ?

> > -> > Comp A is your Linux box. The network card in A connected to your
> > -> > cable/xDSL modem is assigned the external address supplied by your ISP
> > -> > (static or DHCP).  You'll need to use ipchains on this box so that it acts
> > -> > as a gateway for the LAN.
> > -> >
> > -> > Comp B and Comp C are you Windows or ther Linux boxes.
> > ->
> > -> I have not set this up yet, however I don't have a "Comp A" (yet).
> > -> Right now Comp B (mdk6.1 - development machine) and Comp C (win98 - kids
> > -> machine) will be hooked up to my new 100 Mps *switch*, and the modem
> > -> downloads at up to 7 Mps (2 Mps upload - so they say).
> > ->
> > -> What is the recommended minimum speed/memory for Comp A ?
> > -> Is a P75/90 with 64 MB enough ?  Will this affect the speed noticed
> > -> by Comp B and C when using the internet ?  Does any of this not matter
> > -> as long as Comp A's network card is at least 10 Mps ?
> > 
> > Overkill, actually. I use a 486/dx66 with 16 MB of physical memory. You
> > might be able to get away with a 386/25, I haven't tried it.

Thanks... Dan.



Re: [expert] Overload

2000-04-19 Thread vern

Thanks for the update Dave, in your
opinion is it worth the effort to install
Netscape 6??  I'm not really impressed
by the one I run now (4.7).
Vern

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Actually, the mozilla project is not being touched by AOL, they are taking 
> the code to make Netscape 6 from it...but the code for mozilla will still 
> be available. I have been playing with the various builds of mozilla since 
> the M8 build(the m15 build came out tonight).
> I have also tested out the Netscape 6 PR1 build.gotta hand it to them, 
> it runs FAST!!!.it's not totaly stable yetbut it's pretty close, 
> N6PR1 is more stable that M14 was.
>   --Dave
> 

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Re: [expert] sendmail upgrade to 8.10 ?

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am using mdk6.1 for my site. Currently it runs Sendmail 8.9 version.
> I have my mobile users (MS OutlookExpress) connecting to my mdk server from
> different IP addreses, and I'd like to implement relaying of their
> messages.(with relaying for strangers disabled). I've seen on sendmail.org
> that they implemented new feature in 8.10.1: "SMTP Authentication, allowing
> users to use cryptographic authentication in SMTP to gain additional
> privileges, such as ability to relay".
> 
> Is it possible to use this feature in MS Outlook Express clients ?
> 
Yes! Outlook Express *does* support "authentication" on
SMTP as well as on POP.
John



RE: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> > P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> > designation?
> 
> Sorry, can't help you here.  I have no idea what the S means.
> 
Go to the following web site for more info on the codes:
http://support.intel.com/newsgroups/proc_id.htm
John



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

KDM/GDM/XDM only work when you're booting into GUI mode.
They do NOT work when you boot to console mode.
John



Re: [expert] high CPU load under MDK7

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> I just installed MDK7-2, and I've noticed that after a period of time, there's
> a lot of HD activity and a high CPU load. I took a look at top, and it shows
> that the CPU hungry process is called 'slocate'. What is it? I did not notice
> this in previous versions of Mandrake.
> 
slocate is a program/util that every once in awhile will go
out and make a database of ALL files on your system, so
that when you (for example) run "locate netscape-navigator"
it can tell you the EXACT location for EVERY instance of
"netscape-navigator."
It's ONLY supposed to rebuild it's database automagically
once a day in the middle of the night. However, it *may* do
it at other times because something you installed told it
to, or because your system clock is wrong.
John



Re: [expert] 'wrong charset' message.

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> How do I get rid of the "wrong charset" KDE message? It's a little annoying.
> 
Go into KDE Control Center and set ALL your languages to
one language instead of "default."
John



Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Pj wrote:
> 
> > I haven't received a message from the group for 24-hours, is the mail
> > server down? 
> 
> I don't know.  I'm really stuck here and was hoping the list could help me
> out... what an inopportune time to have these problems!  =(
> 
> Anyways, consider this something of a test as well.  I do get the
> occasional message... maybe everyone took holidays at the same time?  
> 
I don't know what to tell you two, but it appears to be a
selective loss of email addresses. I've been getting mail
on the "expert" list no problem.
John



Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> I haven't received a message from the group for 24-hours, is the mail
> server down? 
> 
Not that I can tell.
John



[expert] Odd APache Behaviour

2000-04-19 Thread Wizaerd

I'm fairly new to Linux and to Apache, (and I'm on this expert list instead
of the 'newbie' list because I'm beyond installation and partioning
questions)... I have two questions that hopefully somebody can answer for
me...

If I'm logged in as a regular user, and type 'lynx localhost', it brings up
the appropriate pages from the htdocs directory Apache is set to.  However,
if I'm logged in as root and type 'lynx localhost', I get a directory
listing of the / partition.  Anybody know what I've screwed up here?

Also, if there a way to have a file created by root be editable by a user,
or actually by any user?  While testing a new installation of PHP, as root,
I created a test file, but then later wanted to make some changes to it as a
regular user.  I t wasn't a secure file, but the ownership of it kept
screwing me up.  I could change the ownership of it to that regular user,
but then other users wouldn't be able to use it (and I need multiple users
to access it since we're all learning this thing together on my
computer...).  I've tried assiging the users to the same group, and then
changing the group permissions for that file, but I guess I'm missing
something there...

Perhaps I should go back to the 'newbie' list :^)

Joseph (Joe) Sheble
a.k.a. Wizaerd

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http://www.wizaerd.com
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a little bit of everything...

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Re: [expert] Re: Dependency help

2000-04-19 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger

Mike Corbeil wrote:

> [snipped]
> 
> > Well, if you *only* do --nodeps that's probably true, but if you use
> > --force you can get in trouble: the un-install could un-install stuff
> > that was really installed already.
> 
> un-install usually means removing stuff that was already installed, as far
> as I'm aware.However, guessing, --nodeps could also cause problems.
> According to the aforementioned referenced documentation, --nodeps can
> install an app and this might work, but it can also cause other apps to be
> "broken", and I don't have any difficulty believe that this is definitely
> possible, and does happen.

Uninstall only un-installs what the package *thinks* it installed; once
you start messing around with the rpm options you can confuse this
process.

I have found that the best approach is to install/re-install individual
packages from hither & yon as infrequently as possible; unless you have
some specific reason to do so, stick to the packages that all came
together on your distribution.

I, at least, find it easier to just backup my system and re-install
periodically just to "keep up with what's new" and only install
piecemeal when I have a specific bug or problem.

> 
> > You might try rpmdrake; it can resolve dependencies and install them all
> > automatically.
> 
> Thanks for that point.  Definitely sounds better than the rpm I'm currently
> using, 3.0.2.  I've already found a couple of "bugs" with this version, one
> when erasing or removing 3.0.2 after it's been installed "next" to a prior
> version, and the other being that I now, somehow, have three instances of
> 3.0.2 reported with rpm -qa.  Not sure how the latter happened, but
> definitely seems wrong.

rpmdrake is a GUI on top of RPM, not a replacement rpm.
In general packages don't install next to other packages, they replace
them.
I know of no reason why it wouldn't work with RH.

> 
> On the other hand, the first bug is easy to recover from once one knows
> how, especially if there's another Linux configuration files and
> directories can be copied from, and the second bug doesn't prevent rpm from
> working; just that there are more instances reported by rpm -qa than
> necessary.  Guessing, I believe that this may be more of a rpm database
> tracking error, but harmless.
> 
> I'll take a look into rpmdrake, and believe it works for both Mandrake and
> RH.
> 
> Screwed up my test/build system tonight doing configure, make and make
> install, for glibc2 2.x.x .tar.gz archive.  Can't boot into that
> configuration any longer and now need to figure out how to undo  or
> repair.  That teaches me one lesson, to not install to /usr, but instead as
> the INSTALL file says to try first, to /usr/local.

I always install non-RPM code to /usr/local.  Much safer.

> 
> mike

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[expert] USB NIC?

2000-04-19 Thread Hoyt

I heard that 7.0 has some USB support. True?

Anyone using a USB ethernet card? Which one?

Thanks,

Hoyt

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Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread John Connell



> Matt Stegman wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, james.fogg wrote:
> > > BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> > > P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> > > designation?

I know that on Intel processors if you look on the underside at the
processors number "S" designates a "standard" chip and a "V" designates a
"voltage regulated chip." Don't know if this is the answer but thought I
would throw my 2 cents worth in!

John Connell




Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-19 Thread Ed Anderson

Why purchase another machine at all?  Install a second network interface
card into Comp B and connect it in the diagram as Comp A.  It'll cost ya
about $10-20 for a nic.

Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:37:04AM -0600, Daniel Woods wrote:
> ->
> -> > Assuming your ISP is providing you with only a single IP address, you want
> -> > something along these lines:
> -> >
> -> > ++
> -> > | Comp B |---\+---+
> -> > ++\---| H |  ++ +---+
> -> >   | u |--| Comp A |-| Modem |
> -> > ++/---| b |  ++ +---+
> -> > | Comp C |---/+---+
> -> > ++
> -> >
> -> > Comp A is your Linux box. The network card in A connected to your
> -> > cable/xDSL modem is assigned the external address supplied by your ISP
> -> > (static or DHCP).  You'll need to use ipchains on this box so that it acts
> -> > as a gateway for the LAN.
> -> >
> -> > Comp B and Comp C are you Windows or ther Linux boxes.
> ->
> -> I have not set this up yet, however I don't have a "Comp A" (yet).
> -> Right now Comp B (mdk6.1 - development machine) and Comp C (win98 - kids
> -> machine) will be hooked up to my new 100 Mps *switch*, and the modem
> -> downloads at up to 7 Mps (2 Mps upload - so they say).
> ->
> -> What is the recommended minimum speed/memory for Comp A ?
> -> Is a P75/90 with 64 MB enough ?  Will this affect the speed noticed
> -> by Comp B and C when using the internet ?  Does any of this not matter
> -> as long as Comp A's network card is at least 10 Mps ?
> 
> Overkill, actually. I use a 486/dx66 with 16 MB of physical memory. You
> might be able to get away with a 386/25, I haven't tried it.
> 
> ->
> -> If I wanted to have a web server running (or ftp, mail, news), can
> -> it be on Comp B instead of Comp A ?  I know the ISPs don't like this.
> -> I take it that Comp A would have to have some kind of proxy server
> -> to forward the request to the private web server on Comp B.
> -> If I started to get many web hits, would the speed and memory of
> -> Comp A affect users, or is it affected by the speed of Comp B ?
> -> Does opening up Comp B's port 80 (web) create a security risk
> -> (or is it if you use a proxy server - recommendations) ?
> 
> Think security. Stuff the outside world will see should be on the firewall
> only. The fewer open ports on the firewall, the more secure it it. And if
> the outside world can see a service, someone will try to crack it.
> 
> Also why route data across your internal network if you don't need
> to?
> 
> Unless you are on a T1, any old Pentium class computer should do it.
> 
> --
> 
> -- C^2
> 
> No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
> 
> Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
> http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley



[expert] Boot messages

2000-04-19 Thread Chris Angus

Hi,
 
I have just installed Mandrake 7.0 and have it up and ruuning
via a remote X-server on a windoze box.
 
I have a terminal emulator on /dev/cua1 which I can log into fine

However Is there any way I can redirect the console output to /dev/cua1 so I
can shut it down remotely yet still view when the system is safe to power
down and see my boot messages on the hyperterm.

I thought replacing the first mingetty line in init tab to use uugetty would
work but this
only causes a login to run rather than the boot messages.

Also at the minute I am booting to a graphical login on my monitor would
this screw things up?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Chris
 
 



Re: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Matt Stegman wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, james.fogg wrote:
> > BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> > P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> > designation?
> 
> Sorry, can't help you here.  I have no idea what the S means.


Could it be like the 486's ??? I had once a 486S (DX-2/66) and
the S was for "SL Enhanced" which was some power saving feature.

-- 
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74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



[expert] Problems with Mandrake 7

2000-04-19 Thread Phil Risby

Greetings everyone
I have been fof the list for a month while travelling England so forgive me if these
questions have already been covered
I love Mandrake and found it to be the least broken and most featured upon fresh
install of all the distros that I have tried ( quite a few)
While in England I picked up a magazine with a free version of Mandrake 7 on it (
Another mag had Corel Linux so I bought that too , why dont the State side mags give
away free CD's?)
So I ran a fresh install on my laptop which had Mandrake 6.1 on it
Now posotove things first
Mandrake got the video card identified and set up under X all by itself. Every other
distro has required ne to tweak the XF86Config file by hand. Very impressive :-)
However I did have other error messages

Like upon re-booting directy after a fresh install

a failed  "file system  supermount not supported by the kernel"
I searched /etc/fstab  and found no reference to 'supermount file system but did
find some srange syntax, which I put back to how I thought it should be and that
error message went away next time I booted. I dont feel I found the problem though

then under Mandrake 6.1 the shutdown process always turned the machine off, now it
doesnt , just leaves it at the system halted screen. Somewhere I get a messgae that
APM is not supported by this kernel
This seems to be a shame, no?

IMHO Mandrake 6.1 gave the least errors and was excellent for first timers

Any comments anyone?

Phil

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and
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[expert] sendmail upgrade to 8.10 ?

2000-04-19 Thread Zilvinas Atkociunas

Hi all,

I am using mdk6.1 for my site. Currently it runs Sendmail 8.9 version.
I have my mobile users (MS OutlookExpress) connecting to my mdk server from
different IP addreses, and I'd like to implement relaying of their
messages.(with relaying for strangers disabled). I've seen on sendmail.org
that they implemented new feature in 8.10.1: "SMTP Authentication, allowing
users to use cryptographic authentication in SMTP to gain additional
privileges, such as ability to relay".

Is it possible to use this feature in MS Outlook Express clients ?

If above said is possible then: are there any ways to painlessly upgrade to
8.10 ?

Zilvinas






RE: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-19 Thread Matt Stegman

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, james.fogg wrote:

> OK... so the 786 is the PII and the 886 is the PIII. If the 586 is the
> original Pentium, where does the 686 come in? Is that the MMX-enabled
> series? I am getting ready to compile some kernels and I am curious.

Not quite right...

The original Pentium chips were i586.  Anything that is Pentium I + MMX is
still i586.  Pentium Pro chips are i686 processors.  PII chips are
(basically) Pentium Pro cores + MMX.  Adding MMX does not make a major
architechtural change, so they are still i686.  Same with the PIII
processor - no big changes.  As far as I know, all they did was play with
the cache between PII and PIII.  I don't know about Coppermine and such -
I need to keep up to date with this - but I do know that AMD's Athlon is
the first i786 processor to be sold.  The Pentium Pro, II, and III
processors are all i686.  Whether or not the chip supports MMX does not
change the architechture number.


> BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
> P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
> designation?

Sorry, can't help you here.  I have no idea what the S means.

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [expert] Enlightment Applets - How To Move Them?

2000-04-19 Thread Matt Stegman

Hold down the alt key, and drag them with the left mouse button.  This
works for windows, too; you can grap any window from any point inside the
window to move it.  Try Alt+Middle button drag.  It resizes windows in
Enlightenment.

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm using Gnome with Enlightment and would like to know how to move the Enlightment 
>Applets.
> 
> Seve
> 
> 




Re: [expert] high CPU load under MDK7

2000-04-19 Thread Ron Stodden

Guillermo Belli wrote:
> 
> I just installed MDK7-2, and I've noticed that after a period of time, there's
> a lot of HD activity and a high CPU load. I took a look at top, and it shows
> that the CPU hungry process is called 'slocate'. What is it? I did not notice
> this in previous versions of Mandrake.

See man updatedb & man locate or slocate.

cron sets updatedb going (so that the locate and slocate commands
will work) every 24 hours at 04:02 am.

-- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.



[expert] Enlightment Applets - How To Move Them?

2000-04-19 Thread Sevatio Octavio

Hi,

I'm using Gnome with Enlightment and would like to know how to move the Enlightment 
Applets.

Seve