Re: [expert-it] problemi con qmail

2001-03-26 Thread antoniofranco

Il 13:21, mercoled 21 marzo 2001, scrivesti:
 Salve! Dirvi che sono alla disperazione  poco...
 Non riesco a farmi autenticare gli utenti virtuali pop da qmail, o meglio,
 da vmailmgr e da  vpopmail: ...e credo di averle provate tutte.
 Per maggiore chiarezza: qmail autentica correttamente i client pop che
 hanno un account sulla macchina ma quando vado a settare un dominio
 virtuale aggiungendogli degli utenti provando ad entrare mi fa:

 [studente@pc studente]$ telnet 127.0.0.1 110
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to 127.0.0.1.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 +OK 890.985175560@pc
 user antoniofranco
 +OK
 pass platone
 -ERR authorization failed
 Connection closed by foreign host.

 Ho sostituito cottettamente nel file /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/run
 la stringa " /bin/checkpassword " con " usr/bin/checkvpw " (usando
 vmailmgr) ma niente!!

 Ho provato su diverse macchine ma sempre con la v7.2.
 Ho compilato e ricompilato pi volte, ho provato anche con degli rpm per
 mandrake freschi freschi -se vi interessano li troverete tutti su
 www.freezer-burn.org- ma niente!

 Dov' che sbaglio?


Beh! il  problema l'ho risolto, qmail e tutto il resto vanno bene solo che... 
lo dico?... si, lo dico! : omettevo di aggiungere al nome di login la 
desinenza del dominio virtuale... ecco tutto!




Re: [expert] Civilme: inquiring minds want to know

2001-03-26 Thread Civileme

On Sunday 25 March 2001 16:40, you wrote:
  it is Civileme.   You'd need a Turkish phonetic dictionary to
  get it right
  and also a mailer capable of seeing (and I'd need a font
  capable of showing)
  what appears to be the bottom of a figure 5 attached to the
  nadir of the C.

 Maybe I'm dense, but I still don't know how to pronounce it.  Any chance
 you could give us a rough cut on the pronunciation?  I've always pronounced
 it "SIV-ill-ME" which I know is wrong.  And the only Turkish girl I knew
 just flew to Turkey for a 6 month assignment. :-(

 Matt

jzhiv ih Leh' mee, but most of my coworkers pronounce it siveelehm.

Civileme
Yes, tis my nickname as well






[expert] upgrade resetting my security

2001-03-26 Thread Faisal Gillani

Hello
 Well i first install with the maximum security  ... i was satisfied with it
but then when i ran upgrade to install another feature it changed my
security level to normal ...
why is that
also tell me how can i check to make sure that my server is secure ..


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Re: [expert] I just don't grep this...

2001-03-26 Thread Civileme

On Sunday 25 March 2001 17:34, you wrote:
 Hi Greppers  Groaners,

   What a sound thread this is I have but one suggestion that 
would help
 thos with only one blade to their prop.

 I used to use ESIX SVR4 before I moved (most of the time) to Linux. I
 used the following ploy many a time when I was learning the ropes. Many
 Man pages do have examples if you look for them ( mkisofs is an example)
 if on SVR4 in Xterm all I used to do was list the man page that I wanted
 and then kill the man app which on that system did not clear the screen
 but left you with the part of the man page you needed I could then just
 copy the command line to the command prompt and run it. This taught me
 not only the command but the general syntax of the Bourne shell; of
 course to do this in X is even easier just open two terminals and you
 can cut and paste.

 If it was a "Manual Page" standard to have the most commonly used
 command line parameters for the program in the 2 or 3 examples then
 there would be no problem. One could even have a man page of most
 commonly used syntaxes.

 The reality is though, that Linux/UNIX is a powerful and complex
 operating system with many tools that can work alone or in combination
 with each other and to get the best out of it requires of necessity a
 full understand of why it is the way it is. To many that subscribe to
 this list it is a thing of beauty and elegance but to the average
 Windows user who wants to change to another OS it can be an absolute
 nightmare (just read some of the "newbie" list).

 There is a simple answer to this and that is to make the distros less
 complex. What pray is the point of having five different desktops
 installed on a system. Here's a very simple reason why it's a bad plan.
 If I am running Windows as an ignorant user and find something I don't
 know how to do I can ring up my friend Marcia down the road and ask
 "have you managed to do this yet?" if she hasn't I ring my friend John
 in the next town and low and behold he's done it and talks me through
 the procedure on his screen. I'm sure you see the point.

 The real beauty of a free OS implemented in this way is that once people
 become proficient and used to the basic operation of the system they can
 go to any number of websites and download a more sophisticated desktop,
 application or whatever when they desire. I believe that Linux will not
 succeed until some steps are taken to limit it's diversity.

 'Scuse the rant

   Regards,

 Colin H. Close

"It needs to be simpler, but limiting choice isn't the way to do it,"  said a 
certain linux CEO.  I have to agree from my own feelings.

Having the choices is what linux is all about.  For example, most developers 
believe strongly in free software, so strongly that soon you will see 
Netscape disappear from the downloadable distro, and you will not see new 
software added to the downloadables that have license problems.  We are 
hoping some free browser will soon be able to provide equal functionality, 
and when it does

But does that mean you cannot use non-free software with the distro?  Not at 
all.  You can rpm the NVidia 3D accelerator right off our CD of commercial 
software in the release that's being prepared, because we want you to be free 
to choose, even if you choose non-free software.  On the other hand, we 
certainly are not going to promote it and we will continue to solicit your 
support to write to NVidia and ask them to change their policy so we can 
really support the card.

But there is a distro, selling rather poorly, which has a single desktop.  
And there is another, which used to be around, that took the desktop in its 
own direction and did not share back the results, with a resulting "niceness" 
for the user that slammed into a dead end when the desktop was enhanced by 
the desktop makers.

And there is a third distro that has a single desktop which is available.  It 
does not have much of a following, and it has problems staying current 
without the resources needed to do so, but it is available in a very small 
size, comparatively speaking, about 150Mb.

We are doing a balancing act between free software and the need to pay 
internet fees and employees and give investors returns on their dollars.  We 
see that those who have limited choice, with the exception of a predatory 
company like Microsoft, which filled a gap that does not now exist, just 
haven't done well at all in customer satisfaction and sales.  (And Microsoft 
has done well only in sales, I believe.  I have never met a happy Microsoft 
customer, and only one system administrator who thought it was great.)

Well, we want to listen to our customers.  If you find a few people who want 
a simple distro, simple in terms of pre-chosen software, we can make a couple 
and probably even keep them reasonably updated, as subsets of our main distro.

In the new release, the customer can roll his own.  If he 

Re: [expert] Civilme: inquiring minds want to know

2001-03-26 Thread s

Am I the only one who had to look *nadir* up? :-/
-s

On Sunday 25 March 2001 09:05 am, you wrote:
 I have always thought it was "civil-me" as well and until
 I read how it was pronounced, the Turkish way and all.

 Good to know, I like learning new languages.

 I guess I just accepted it as I saw it, I know kind of
 childish, but thats how I am.

 hehe

 Cool

 On Sunday 25 March 2001 07:43 am,  so spoke Tom Snell:
  Jeeesh, I've been wondering about this myself for the past few years,
  and, as are many things in life, the answer is far more intriguing than
  the question!  I always assumed it was Quebecois
 
  Tom
 
  Civileme wrote:
   Hmmm
  
   it is Civileme.   You'd need a Turkish phonetic dictionary to get it
   right and also a mailer capable of seeing (and I'd need a font capable
   of showing) what appears to be the bottom of a figure 5 attached to the
   nadir of the C.
  
   It means "shout" or "smash"(sports) or "foot-first jump".  I took it as
   a web handle to honor a departed four-footed friend, whose registered
   name was Masallah Civileme, one of the near-legendary livestock
   guardians of the Anatolian plateau.
  
   Civileme




[expert] vidio card problems

2001-03-26 Thread Colin Jenkins

Hello all,

I am trying to install linux on a HP Netserver E50
with cirrus logic GD 5446 video card.
The install goes ok but when I run Xconfigurator, it correcly
detects the video card, but no matter what resolution/depth 
I select, when I click OK it does a core dump.
I tried installing RedHat and had much the same problem
although X windows did start, but only at low res.

ps. this is my first attempt at installing Linux (it has to be better than NT)




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Re: [expert] X Mail Client

2001-03-26 Thread Dave Sherman

Have you tried Sylpheed? It can do POP3, IMAP4, and even news. 
http://sylpheed.good-day.net/

Dave

At 05:06 PM 03/25/2001 -0800, you wrote:
I need a fast and robust mail client which can handle multiple IMAP/POP 
email accounts with large number of folders and big volume of mail.

Mozilla mail is almost there, but Mozilla takes too much memory, crashes 
sometimes and on my Celeron 433 system, it is rather sluggish.

KMail is better in speed and memory foot print but doesn't have IMAP 
capability.

Do you have any other suggestions?






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Re: [expert] Civilme: inquiring minds want to know

2001-03-26 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:03 -0600, s wrote:
 Am I the only one who had to look *nadir* up? :-/
 -s

Ts ts ts, you may have missed your advanced astronomers classes in
kindergarten, did you! ;-)
 
wobo
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Re: [expert] Civilme: inquiring minds want to know

2001-03-26 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:52 -0500, Civileme wrote:
 
 Civileme
 Yes, tis my nickname as well

But, when I met you in Paris you were walking on your 2 hind-feet and
upright as well ;-) 

SCNR!
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RE: [expert] dual displays

2001-03-26 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

Well I had a chance to use the Matrox
drivers this weekend. Whil I was able to
get two displays running with KDE 2.1,
I really wasn't able to use the second to
any real advantage. Windows kept opening
too far down, and I couldn't move them.
I think it is a KDE issue. I recall read-
ing that KDE is "not" multi-monitor
compliant. Thanks for the help, and info

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:05 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] dual displays


I will try it out this weekend.

Thanks,

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays


On Friday 23 March 2001 19:15, you wrote:
 Are you using the Matrox provided drivers
 (mga_drv.o and hal_drv.o) or the kernel provided
 drivers. Mandrake 8.0b2 was supposed to fix G450
 issues. I cant make it work at all as of last night
 with Kernel provided modules, or XF86 stock
 drivers. KDE 2.1 came up for me with RH 7.1b but
 I could not access the second display at all.
 Oh well there is the weekend to fight it I guess.

 Brian


Yes the XFree driver is broken and the closed-source works (both by the same 
author, incidentally).

Civileme
QA/Software testing

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays

 Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:
  I have a Matrox G450. I have heard (read) that KDE is not capable of
  doing dual monitor display. Their website names Windowmaker for this use.
  Is there another window manager that supports dual display?

 I just simply run one large dual headed desktop across two monitors with
 a G450 using xinerama. KDE doesn't know the difference and behaves
 normally. The other window managers, at least the ones shipped with LM
 7.1 work nicely as well.

 Dan




RE: [expert] no sound as user on 8.0b

2001-03-26 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

Got it done last weekend. Changed perms
on mpg123, and told KDE sound events to 
use play for an external player. All is
well with sound now. 

Anyone know how to get xcdroast to work
for user? If you follow the xcdroast
suggestions of changing perms, then GTK
comes back at you saying this is an
unsupported feature now. So I burn as Root.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Sternesky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] no sound as user on 8.0b


If you are using kde check to see if arts was installed, during my install it 
seems that was missed.  After I added it my kde system sounds started working.

On Friday 23 March 2001 14:03, Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:
 I have a sound blaster live value, and Mandrake 8.0b2 installed.
 I appear to have no sound as user, with the exception of Realplayer.
 No system Events, nor Xmms sound. Checked perms, all seem fine.
 Anyone else having this prob.. I have only recently noticed this as I
 have been logging in as root to configure things for now.

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 OTS
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Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread Rusty Carruth

"David C. Hoos, Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
 an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?
 
 I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
 related to a particular distribution.
 
 I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
 using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.
 
 Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject

short answer:

To make a floppy from the source:

cd /usr/src/linuxversion#
make type

where type is one of zdisk or bzdisk (or at least I seem to
remember that does what you want!)

or, to make a boot floppy from an already-compiled and installed
kernel, set up a lilo.conf (or equiv for grub) that says


boot=/dev/fd0

instead of the usual boot=/dev/hda, then run lilo (don't forget to
put a floppy in there first!).

These instructions should be pretty distro-neutral ;-)  (since I've done
the above on slackware, debian, RH, and LM)

The long answer will have to wait till I have more time, sorry!

(or someone else gives it ;-)

rc


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Re: [expert] Civilme: inquiring minds want to know

2001-03-26 Thread Jerry Sternesky

No
On Monday 26 March 2001 09:35, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:03 -0600, s wrote:
  Am I the only one who had to look *nadir* up? :-/
  -s

 Ts ts ts, you may have missed your advanced astronomers classes in
 kindergarten, did you! ;-)

 wobo




[expert] Time warp in Linux/Win98 dual-boot

2001-03-26 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friendsL:

I decided last night after reinstalling Linux to also reinstall Windows
and see what effect that has on our ADSL hub setup (in case this is a
flash
in the pan sort of thing). So I reinstalled all of Windows (what a pain!
I only installed about 20-25 programs, but I swear I must have rebooted
at least 30-40 times -- the Soyo motherboard itself required five
reboots, one after each driver). Everything went smoothly. And
WinPPPoet, the pppoe utility used by Earthlink, went off without a hitch
and right away (right after I configured it the way Earthlink explained
to me. Even though at this point there were TWO NIC cards in my
dual-boot Tiger computer, Windows, Networking, TCP/IP recognized only
ONE (both for adaptor and TCP-IP -- presumably the eth0). I typed in the
magic numbers (after first, of course, adding the necessary files from
Win98 and it's been working flawlessly ever since. 

One little problem arose during the process: Apparently, I got my time
in Windows off by 24 years in the future (2025). Jean-Marc of IglooFTP
caught this error. I corrected the time in Windows and in Linux.

However, in Linuxconf, I keep getting an error message:

The following file had or still has a wrong (probably future) date to
it. It includes such files:

/etc/crontab
/etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
/etc/X11/fs/config

and a few others.

I tried to figure out how to correct them and clicked on Do IT to bring
the system back in harmony. I fist went into Linuxconf Miscellaneous
services (or is it Control). The time/date was correct but I accepted it
and "did it." I figured this would solve the problem, rebooted, but the
errors persist. I also looked at the files. I see nothing in them that
has a date, wrong or otherwise. I would like to correct these errors. I
hope this is a piece of cake. I am too exhausted from the double
installation of Linux and Windows to think clearly or want to even look
at it. Is this, may I ask, a simple configuration problem. Can you
suggest how I can solve this.

Otherwise, the installation and ADSL are working perfectly in both
Windows and Linux. Looking forward to finishing this ordeal soon as soon
as I (and you) get some sleep and rest.

Thanks as always.

Benjamin


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[expert] Lunux Mandrake

2001-03-26 Thread A.G.

Hi,

Has anyone been able to get mandrake 7.2 running on a compaq presario
5000?  If so please drop me a line and let me into the "magic" because I
cannot install it :(  

Alex
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RE: [expert] dual displays

2001-03-26 Thread Lyric


Hi,

Did you have any problems with the drivers for the matrox dual head?

I'm currently looking into swapping my matrox G450 into my Linux machine
for the multiple monitor support, and would like to gather as much
information as possible.

Thanks

 Well I had a chance to use the Matrox
 drivers this weekend. Whil I was able to
 get two displays running with KDE 2.1,
 I really wasn't able to use the second to
 any real advantage. Windows kept opening
 too far down, and I couldn't move them.
 I think it is a KDE issue. I recall read-
 ing that KDE is "not" multi-monitor
 compliant. Thanks for the help, and info

 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:05 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [expert] dual displays


 I will try it out this weekend.

 Thanks,

 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays


 On Friday 23 March 2001 19:15, you wrote:
  Are you using the Matrox provided drivers
  (mga_drv.o and hal_drv.o) or the kernel provided
  drivers. Mandrake 8.0b2 was supposed to fix G450
  issues. I cant make it work at all as of last night
  with Kernel provided modules, or XF86 stock
  drivers. KDE 2.1 came up for me with RH 7.1b but
  I could not access the second display at all.
  Oh well there is the weekend to fight it I guess.
 
  Brian
 

 Yes the XFree driver is broken and the closed-source works (both by the same
 author, incidentally).

 Civileme
 QA/Software testing

  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:35 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays
 
  Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:
   I have a Matrox G450. I have heard (read) that KDE is not capable of
   doing dual monitor display. Their website names Windowmaker for this use.
   Is there another window manager that supports dual display?
 
  I just simply run one large dual headed desktop across two monitors with
  a G450 using xinerama. KDE doesn't know the difference and behaves
  normally. The other window managers, at least the ones shipped with LM
  7.1 work nicely as well.
 
  Dan






[expert] login based smtp/ ssmtp

2001-03-26 Thread Nima S. Panahi

Hi,
I run a webmail and email system. The only access I want to give is secure
SSL type. I have already setup a SSL based imap, pop3, and webmail system.
However, for the simap and pop3s users, they need smtp . My users are all
over the world and I cannot select access based on network, therefore I
want to  have an SMTP server that allows usage if people login. I also
want this  smtp server to be ssmtp (over SSL). I am using Postfix on the
system, any  help or direction pointing will be great. Thanks!





[expert] Need help with cron log errors

2001-03-26 Thread David Rankin

Hello all,

I am finally getting around to working on a couple of log errors that
repeatedly occur in my cron.hourly and cron.daily checks. These may seem
like newbie questions, but I can't figure out why I am getting
permission problems when trying to access the following files:

cron.hourly errors:

touch: /var/log/news/nntpsend.log: Permission denied
chmod: /var/log/news/nntpsend.log: Permission denied
/usr/bin/nntpsend: /var/log/news/nntpsend.log: Permission denied

cron.daily errors:

DB2 problem...: missing or empty key value specified
/usr/bin/news.daily: /var/lib/news/.news.daily: Permission denied
Reading active file failed, exiting (see syslog for more information).
Has fetchnews been run?

These errors may seem trivial, but I would sure like to figure them out.
I'll keep digging, but if someone has a quick bit of advise, I would
appreciate the help.





Re: [expert] dual displays - How do I get xinerama working?

2001-03-26 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: "Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: [expert] dual displays


 Well I had a chance to use the Matrox
 drivers this weekend. Whil I was able to
 get two displays running with KDE 2.1,
 I really wasn't able to use the second to
 any real advantage. Windows kept opening
 too far down, and I couldn't move them.
 I think it is a KDE issue. I recall read-
 ing that KDE is "not" multi-monitor
 compliant. Thanks for the help, and info
 

I have been able to get two separate displays working in KDE2, xfce, 
GNOME/Elightenment and blackbox, but I can't get xinerama enabled for a single wide 
screen.

I'm using 8.0beta2, a Voodoo3 AGP card and a Matrox PCI card.

I am using Option "xinerama" "on" in /etc/XF86Config-4 to enable xinerama (that worked 
when I had 7.2 installed with the same hardware).

Hoyt




Any suggestions?





Re: [expert] I just don't grep this...

2001-03-26 Thread Altoine B

"C. CLOSE" wrote:
 
 Hi Greppers  Groaners,
 
 What a sound thread this is I have but one suggestion that 
would help
 thos with only one blade to their prop.
 
 I used to use ESIX SVR4 before I moved (most of the time) to Linux. I
 used the following ploy many a time when I was learning the ropes. Many
 Man pages do have examples if you look for them ( mkisofs is an example)
 if on SVR4 in Xterm all I used to do was list the man page that I wanted
 and then kill the man app which on that system did not clear the screen
 but left you with the part of the man page you needed I could then just
 copy the command line to the command prompt and run it. This taught me
 not only the command but the general syntax of the Bourne shell; of
 course to do this in X is even easier just open two terminals and you
 can cut and paste.
 
 If it was a "Manual Page" standard to have the most commonly used
 command line parameters for the program in the 2 or 3 examples then
 there would be no problem. One could even have a man page of most
 commonly used syntaxes.
 
 The reality is though, that Linux/UNIX is a powerful and complex
 operating system with many tools that can work alone or in combination
 with each other and to get the best out of it requires of necessity a
 full understand of why it is the way it is. To many that subscribe to
 this list it is a thing of beauty and elegance but to the average
 Windows user who wants to change to another OS it can be an absolute
 nightmare (just read some of the "newbie" list).
 
 There is a simple answer to this and that is to make the distros less
 complex. What pray is the point of having five different desktops
 installed on a system. Here's a very simple reason why it's a bad plan.
 If I am running Windows as an ignorant user and find something I don't
 know how to do I can ring up my friend Marcia down the road and ask
 "have you managed to do this yet?" if she hasn't I ring my friend John
 in the next town and low and behold he's done it and talks me through
 the procedure on his screen. I'm sure you see the point.
 
 The real beauty of a free OS implemented in this way is that once people
 become proficient and used to the basic operation of the system they can
 go to any number of websites and download a more sophisticated desktop,
 application or whatever when they desire. I believe that Linux will not
 succeed until some steps are taken to limit it's diversity.
 
 'Scuse the rant
 
 Regards,
 
 Colin H. Close

Blackbox rules! I like how that it can support all the "others" while
being lightweight and functional. Might be an "edge" too light for the
casual MS , KDE, and Gnome users but my cup of tea, nonetheless. I
personally, am confused by the complexity of KDE and Gnome as a whole
but I understand their strong point. I just wish that there was a
"magical" way to make the two "interchangeable" down to the programming
level.

my $.02


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Re: [expert] Konsole font problems! AHHHH!

2001-03-26 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: "Nima S. Panahi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: [expert] Konsole font problems! A!


 I installed 8.0b2. Now, konsole opens with fonts all messed up. tops and
 bottoms sometimes are missing, letters run itno one another, and it all
 looks funky and unusuable. I have tried everything... the weird thing is
 that when I run konsole under gnome, its back to normal. Please help as
 this is driving NUTS! Thanks...
 

If you make them huge and bold, they look a little better. The font in the terminal 
window in Konqueror looks just as bad, if not worse. 

Hoyt





Re: [expert] Time warp in Linux/Win98 dual-boot

2001-03-26 Thread Altoine B

Benjamin Sher wrote:
 
 Dear friendsL:
 
 I decided last night after reinstalling Linux to also reinstall Windows
 and see what effect that has on our ADSL hub setup (in case this is a
 flash
 in the pan sort of thing). So I reinstalled all of Windows (what a pain!
 I only installed about 20-25 programs, but I swear I must have rebooted
 at least 30-40 times -- the Soyo motherboard itself required five
 reboots, one after each driver). Everything went smoothly. And
 WinPPPoet, the pppoe utility used by Earthlink, went off without a hitch
 and right away (right after I configured it the way Earthlink explained
 to me. Even though at this point there were TWO NIC cards in my
 dual-boot Tiger computer, Windows, Networking, TCP/IP recognized only
 ONE (both for adaptor and TCP-IP -- presumably the eth0). I typed in the
 magic numbers (after first, of course, adding the necessary files from
 Win98 and it's been working flawlessly ever since.
 
 One little problem arose during the process: Apparently, I got my time
 in Windows off by 24 years in the future (2025). Jean-Marc of IglooFTP
 caught this error. I corrected the time in Windows and in Linux.
 
 However, in Linuxconf, I keep getting an error message:
 
 The following file had or still has a wrong (probably future) date to
 it. It includes such files:
 
 /etc/crontab
 /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
 /etc/X11/fs/config
 
 and a few others.
 
 I tried to figure out how to correct them and clicked on Do IT to bring
 the system back in harmony. I fist went into Linuxconf Miscellaneous
 services (or is it Control). The time/date was correct but I accepted it
 and "did it." I figured this would solve the problem, rebooted, but the
 errors persist. I also looked at the files. I see nothing in them that
 has a date, wrong or otherwise. I would like to correct these errors. I
 hope this is a piece of cake. I am too exhausted from the double
 installation of Linux and Windows to think clearly or want to even look
 at it. Is this, may I ask, a simple configuration problem. Can you
 suggest how I can solve this.
 
 Otherwise, the installation and ADSL are working perfectly in both
 Windows and Linux. Looking forward to finishing this ordeal soon as soon
 as I (and you) get some sleep and rest.
 
 Thanks as always.
 
 Benjamin
 
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Are you familiar with the "touch" command?

Touch, simply updates the date and time of the files that I "touch". The
command is simply implemented this way:

touch /boot/straps

since you have to change the dates on a "privileged" account, become
"root" and do the following:

su root
touch /etc/crontab

or 

su -c  "touch /etc/crontab"

I hope that helps.


and on and on.

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Re: [expert] Lunux Mandrake

2001-03-26 Thread Altoine B

"A.G." wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Has anyone been able to get mandrake 7.2 running on a compaq presario
 5000?  If so please drop me a line and let me into the "magic" because I
 cannot install it :(
 
 Alex
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I'm glad that you have written in to tell us about this. I mean on the
fact that I'm not the only one having problems trying to install linux
to that type of system! I am actually trying to install the "beta"
softwares to Compaq's 5000 series, as well (LM8beta1, LM8beta2 is next).
If someone on this list can give you the "magic" to work linux on
release 7.2 then I would ulove/u to hear about it myself!

Laters

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Re: [expert] Konsole font problems! AHHHH!

2001-03-26 Thread Altoine B

"Nima S. Panahi" wrote:
 
 I installed 8.0b2. Now, konsole opens with fonts all messed up. tops and
 bottoms sometimes are missing, letters run itno one another, and it all
 looks funky and unusuable. I have tried everything... the weird thing is
 that when I run konsole under gnome, its back to normal. Please help as
 this is driving NUTS! Thanks...

Try also blackbox if you have it installed. If there is nothing wrong in
that area as well, you may have to reinstall kde2.1 onto your system
because something is a muck. I get problems all the time with my
LM8beta2 and found just reinstalling fixes things. $.02


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Re: [expert] Time warp in Linux/Win98 dual-boot

2001-03-26 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Altoine:

Thanks so very much for the info about the touch command in reference to
dates. I found out from someone else how important dates are in Linux.
Had no idea. Will try out the touch /etc/crontab, etc. command.

Thanks so much.

Benjamin
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Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread FreezeR

yup...
there is mkbootdisk on LM 7.2
man mkbootdisk !

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:


 Hi all,

 Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
 an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?

 I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
 related to a particular distribution.

 I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
 using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.

 Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject








Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread David C. Hoos, Sr.

I've received two replies to my question, both of which told me how to
build a BOOT floppy, when what I asked was how to make an
INSTALL floppy.

Perhaps my intention was unclear, but in my mind, an install floppy
is something quite different from a boot floppy.

At any rate, what I'm looking to be able to do is buil
- Original Message - 
From: "FreezeR" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 26, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Building an install floppy


 yup...
 there is mkbootdisk on LM 7.2
 man mkbootdisk !
 
 On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
  an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?
 
  I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
  related to a particular distribution.
 
  I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
  using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.
 
  Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject
 
 
 
 
 
 






Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread David C. Hoos, Sr.

I've received two replies to my question, both of which told me how to
build a BOOT floppy, when what I asked was how to make an
INSTALL floppy.

Perhaps my intention was unclear, but in my mind, an install floppy
is something quite different from a boot floppy.

At any rate, what I'm looking to be able to do is build a floppy that
will then enable installation from CD-ROM.

- Original Message - 
From: "FreezeR" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 26, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Building an install floppy


 yup...
 there is mkbootdisk on LM 7.2
 man mkbootdisk !
 
 On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
  an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?
 
  I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
  related to a particular distribution.
 
  I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
  using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.
 
  Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject
 
 
 
 
 
 







[expert] Samba and win2k VPN ??

2001-03-26 Thread mdk



How can I acceess samba shares over the Internet 
using win2k pro VPNfeatures?thanx a lot.if possible cc the reply to 
my e-mail


[expert] fstab help

2001-03-26 Thread KompuKit

Attached is my current fstab file...and the original (before)
I uninstalled then re-installed 7.2 so that it would find/setup
my new HP cd-writer plus 9100.
as of right this minute, when I bringup konqueror to mnt the cdroms
(have two), it shows a cdrom, a cdrom 2, and a cdrom 3

but, only the cdrom and cdrom 3 are actually mountable and useable.
cdrom 2 isn't. how do I get rid of, and/or make cdrom3, the new cdrom 2?

cdrom 3 is my cdwriter...cdrom is my regular cdrom drive.
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/dev/hdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hdb5 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/cdrom3 /mnt/cdrom3 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom3 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb6 swap swap defaults 0 0



/dev/hdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hdb5 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb6 swap swap defaults 0 0




Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread FreezeR

ups sorry...
u can make an install floppy from the mandrake source
usually it's located at boot direcory...
u may use fips from DOS or rawwrite from Win9x
then choose the cdrom image...

CMIIW

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:

 I've received two replies to my question, both of which told me how to
 build a BOOT floppy, when what I asked was how to make an
 INSTALL floppy.

 Perhaps my intention was unclear, but in my mind, an install floppy
 is something quite different from a boot floppy.

 At any rate, what I'm looking to be able to do is build a floppy that
 will then enable installation from CD-ROM.

 - Original Message -
 From: "FreezeR" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 26, 2001 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Building an install floppy


  yup...
  there is mkbootdisk on LM 7.2
  man mkbootdisk !
 
  On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:
 
  
   Hi all,
  
   Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
   an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?
  
   I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
   related to a particular distribution.
  
   I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
   using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.
  
   Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject
  
  
  
 
 
 








Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread David C. Hoos, Sr.

I really seem to be having difficulty communicating my need.

I know all about making floppies from the image files on the CD.

Maybe I should have said it this way:  I need to be able to
create my own image file with support for different devices
than those that come in any of the standard image files.

Am I yet making myself clear?

- Original Message - 
From: "FreezeR" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "David C. Hoos, Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 26, 2001 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Building an install floppy


 ups sorry...
 u can make an install floppy from the mandrake source
 usually it's located at boot direcory...
 u may use fips from DOS or rawwrite from Win9x
 then choose the cdrom image...
 
 CMIIW
 
 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:
 
  I've received two replies to my question, both of which told me how to
  build a BOOT floppy, when what I asked was how to make an
  INSTALL floppy.
 
  Perhaps my intention was unclear, but in my mind, an install floppy
  is something quite different from a boot floppy.
 
  At any rate, what I'm looking to be able to do is build a floppy that
  will then enable installation from CD-ROM.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "FreezeR" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: March 26, 2001 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [expert] Building an install floppy
 
 
   yup...
   there is mkbootdisk on LM 7.2
   man mkbootdisk !
  
   On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:
  
   
Hi all,
   
Is there a HOW-TO or other instruction on how to build
an install floppy with a kernel you've built yourself?
   
I'm, looking for generic instructions, if possible, not something
related to a particular distribution.
   
I'd like to be able to install any distribution from any CD, but
using a kernel I've built to support particular devices.
   
Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the subject
   
   
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 





[expert] xfs with 4.0.2 crashes on startup

2001-03-26 Thread David E.Fox


I've just recently upgraded to a new Athlon based system with a Matrox G450 
bourd, have compiled X 4.0.2 from scratch (on my old P-100, that is, which 
took a *long* time).

When xfs is started by '/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs start' the system returns an OK 
linet, but once that is present, all trace of it is gone from'ps' or other 
utilities. Consequently, I get a 'cannot open font fixed' error from the X 
server, and a subsequent crash.

I haven't been able to solve the problem. I remade xfs, did a new make 
install, same thing. I went and force installed the xfs 4.0.1 RPM which fixes 
the problem -- although this has been known to die sporadically at times as 
well. For instance, upon exiting out of X, xfs is no longer there, and has to 
be restarted.

This makes programs such as xsterm non functional, since xterm in particular 
dies with a library confilct. rxvt, konsole, gnome terminal etc., are not 
affected, so that's not that big of an issue. Still, this shouldn't be 
happening.






Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread John Rye

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:09:27 -0600
"David C. Hoos, Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've received two replies to my question, both of which told me how to
 build a BOOT floppy, when what I asked was how to make an
 INSTALL floppy.
 
 Perhaps my intention was unclear, but in my mind, an install floppy
 is something quite different from a boot floppy.
 
 At any rate, what I'm looking to be able to do is build a floppy that
 will then enable installation from CD-ROM.

David,

On your L-M cd you'll find a directory called /dos/utils/, in there are
a bunch of utilities to do what you ask.

However, it does require you have access to MSDOS.

On one of my machines which won't boot from the CDrom, I have a 350mb
partition with a minimum Windows installed on it. In there I have a
directory which I can use to boot and install from the cd for
installation.

Cheers

John

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[expert] key layout problems, backspace broke

2001-03-26 Thread Kevin Rich

Hi,

A few days ago I had to kill X the hard way
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and upon restart my backspace key
doesnt do the backspace thing anymore..i have to use
CTRL H.:(

Also I cant us my apostophere key either... nothing
happens when i press it...

Ive tried changing keyboard layout in Drakconf, then
switching back to US, and even upgraded to xfree 4.02
but still same problem...

Where the heck does one go to fix these kinds of
settings? I assume theres a file buried somwhere
or...?

thanks very much...

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Re: [expert] Building an install floppy

2001-03-26 Thread FreezeR

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David C. Hoos, Sr. wrote:

 Maybe I should have said it this way:  I need to be able to
 create my own image file with support for different devices

may i know...what kind of different device do you mean ??
as i know there are few devices for installing the LM from the image file
network, cdrom, hd, pcmcia, etc..

 than those that come in any of the standard image files.

did you have your own image file ??
did u make your self ??
well if you did...you can use fips or rawwrite too...
just load your image when it's ask for the image file

 Am I yet making myself clear?

perhaps...





Re: [expert] key layout problems, backspace broke

2001-03-26 Thread Elice Wu

but if you press the apostrophe and THEN the space, does the apostrophe
appear?

if thats the case, then you've chosen international keyboard layout


Kevin Rich wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 A few days ago I had to kill X the hard way
 CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and upon restart my backspace key
 doesnt do the backspace thing anymore..i have to use
 CTRL H.:(
 
 Also I cant us my apostophere key either... nothing
 happens when i press it...
 
 Ive tried changing keyboard layout in Drakconf, then
 switching back to US, and even upgraded to xfree 4.02
 but still same problem...
 
 Where the heck does one go to fix these kinds of
 settings? I assume theres a file buried somwhere
 or...?
 
 thanks very much...
 
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RE: [expert] dual displays

2001-03-26 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

For the most part, the drivers are drop in
replacements for standard XF86 drivers. I am going
to try Windowmaker, which is dual monitor compliant,
then we'll see. So far I only have the stated problems
You need to edit a couple of files in XF86 dir.
The instructions are pretty good from Matrox too.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Lyric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 1:24 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] dual displays



Hi,

Did you have any problems with the drivers for the matrox dual head?

I'm currently looking into swapping my matrox G450 into my Linux machine
for the multiple monitor support, and would like to gather as much
information as possible.

Thanks

 Well I had a chance to use the Matrox
 drivers this weekend. Whil I was able to
 get two displays running with KDE 2.1,
 I really wasn't able to use the second to
 any real advantage. Windows kept opening
 too far down, and I couldn't move them.
 I think it is a KDE issue. I recall read-
 ing that KDE is not multi-monitor
 compliant. Thanks for the help, and info

 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:05 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [expert] dual displays


 I will try it out this weekend.

 Thanks,

 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays


 On Friday 23 March 2001 19:15, you wrote:
  Are you using the Matrox provided drivers
  (mga_drv.o and hal_drv.o) or the kernel provided
  drivers. Mandrake 8.0b2 was supposed to fix G450
  issues. I cant make it work at all as of last night
  with Kernel provided modules, or XF86 stock
  drivers. KDE 2.1 came up for me with RH 7.1b but
  I could not access the second display at all.
  Oh well there is the weekend to fight it I guess.
 
  Brian
 

 Yes the XFree driver is broken and the closed-source works (both by the same
 author, incidentally).

 Civileme
 QA/Software testing

  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:35 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [expert] dual displays
 
  Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:
   I have a Matrox G450. I have heard (read) that KDE is not capable of
   doing dual monitor display. Their website names Windowmaker for this use.
   Is there another window manager that supports dual display?
 
  I just simply run one large dual headed desktop across two monitors with
  a G450 using xinerama. KDE doesn't know the difference and behaves
  normally. The other window managers, at least the ones shipped with LM
  7.1 work nicely as well.
 
  Dan