[expert-it] Connessione ad Internet KO
Salve a tutti, ho un problema che mi sta assillando da qualche giorno e nonostante le mie assidue letture al man e agli HOWTO non sono riuscito a risolvere. Ho installato la Mdk8.0 (bellina davvero) con il kernel 2.4.3 perchè, mi era stato detto che la Mdk 7.2 con il kernel 2.4.x aveva problemi per la connessione ad internet. Ecco i passi che ho compiuto: 1) La prima cosa è stata controllare la rete: 1.a) con ifconfig e ping ho controllato le interfacce (lo ed eth0 sono presenti e funzionanti) 1.b) con route ho controllato gli instradamenti (127.0.0.0 e 192.168.0.0 sono attivi); in più ho creato un nuovo instradamento con route add -net default gw 192.168.0.1 per permettere (con il DNS server) l'accesso ad internet anche dell'altro computer 2) Ho controllato i file di configurazione: 2.a) /etc/host.conf 2.b) /etc/hosts 2.c) /etc/resolv.conf il cui contenuto è search localdomain # local name server nameserver 192.168.0.1 # wind name server nameserver 212.245.255.2 (anche se, per ora, non ho attivato il DNS) 3)Ho controllato che il demone pppd sia compatibile con la versione del kernel (2.4.x) che abbia i permessi per farlo eseguire a chiunque tramite suid-bit (chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd) e che il link e i permessi per il modem (/dev/ttyS0) siano a posto. 4) Ho scritto il file /etc/ppp/chat-scipt TIMEOUT 3 ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ATF OK ATE0Q0V1 OK ATS7=120S19=0L0M0M4K1H1R2I0X3 OK ATDT071246 TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT Ho scritto da zero il file /etc/ppp/options, ovvero: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chat-script user valerio.spadoni crtscts modem /dev/modem 57600 lock noauth defaultroute 0.0.0.0:0.0.0.0 noipdefault debug kdebug 7 Ed infine il file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets Lanciando pppd (sia da root che da utente normale), ciò che ottengo è (tail /var/log/message) Oct 14 11:33:53 localhost pppd[1906]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0 Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: timeout set to 3 seconds Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: abort on (BUSY) Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: send (ATF^M) Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: expect (OK) Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: OK Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: -- got it Oct 14 11:33:54 localhost chat[1907]: send (ATE0Q0V1^M) Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: expect (OK) Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: ATE0Q0V1^M^M Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: OK Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: -- got it Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: send (ATS7=120S19=0L0M0M4K1H1R2I0X3^M) Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: expect (OK) Oct 14 11:33:55 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: OK Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: -- got it Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: send (ATDT071246^M) Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: timeout set to 80 seconds Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: expect (CONNECT) Oct 14 11:33:56 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:34:01 localhost CROND[1909]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost chat[1907]: ^M Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost chat[1907]: CONNECT Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost chat[1907]: -- got it Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost chat[1907]: send (^M) Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost pppd[1906]: Serial connection established. Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost pppd[1906]: Using interface ppp0 Oct 14 11:34:26 localhost pppd[1906]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem Oct 14 11:34:50 localhost pppd[1906]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Oct 14 11:34:50 localhost pppd[1906]: Modem hangup Oct 14 11:34:50 localhost pppd[1906]: Connection terminated. Oct 14 11:34:51 localhost pppd[1906]: Exit. Se provo a fare ifconfig non vedo l'interfaccio ppp0. Ancora se utilizzo l'utility kppp (pure qui ho impostato il suid-bit), sulla finestra di debug mi appare OK OK CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS ~}#@!}!g} }9}}} }*} } }#}%B#}%}%}}:;#a}'}}(}9'~~}#@!}!h} }9}}} }*} } Sintomo evidente che il ppp da lato server è avvito e attende qualcosa. Scusate la lunghezza della mail Valerio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert-it] Connessione ad Internet KO
Valerio Spadoni wrote: Salve a tutti, ho un problema che mi sta assillando da qualche giorno e nonostante le mie assidue letture al man e agli HOWTO non sono riuscito a risolvere. Ancora se utilizzo l'utility kppp (pure qui ho impostato il suid-bit), sulla finestra di debug mi appare OK OK CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS Scusate la lunghezza della mail Valerio Ciao, potrebbe essere un problema di impostazione HW o di... cavo telefonico lungo! Non sto scherzando: a me succede proprio con il pop wind con un cavo di una decina di metri, ma la connessione mi va in time-out dopo qualche minuto. Riguardo alle impostazioni HW: bisognerebbe controllare se sono attive la compressione e il controllo d'errore, ma non ho la minima idea di dove guardare (con Windowz le disabilito e tutto fila...), anzi se qualcuno ha informazioni a riguardo sarebbe una bella cosa. Hasta luego, ^b Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enough! What is wrong with linux and cdwriters?
Since you're using an Atapi system, one thing which could be causing your grief is if you have your BIOS set to cable select the master/slave drives (as opposed to using jumper select). Just last week, there was quite a big discussion on The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) about a software reviewer who described the sort of intermittant problems you are having (and worse) until he set his hard drives to jumper select - I believe that the same type of problems would apply to Atapi CD drives too. sincerely, Robert Storey From: Praedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mandrake Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm. Actually, the writer is IDE/ATAPI with SCSI emulation via the ide-scsi module. The drive is detected just as the normal ATAPI CDROM on my system is. I have now managed to get two CDs burned without difficulty (not too loud or it will jinx it) but set the speed to 1x instead of 2x. I will also try eliminating the devfs= statement in lilo.conf on someone else's suggestion (buggy?). __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email
Hi Jose, At 02:59 AM 11/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: Try talking to the server directly to verify your password... I.E. telnet servername 110 I tried both at root as well as user In Konsole window telnet pop.aaa.net 110 bash: telnet: command not found I made a quick browse but could not discover telnet command in /bin I could not discover the mistake committed. In another PC running Win ME, I configure Eudora with the same settings and it works fine without problem. I encountered the same problem before but unfortunately I could not recall how to rectify it because I have been away from Linux for some times. In the early version of Linux only root can send and receive emails as well as browsing the web. You have to chmod to allow the user having such authorities. Adding to my problem is my Mandrake 8.1 being not very stable. Its PS/2 port is still not working. Anyhow I am considering to have another round to re-install Mandrake 8.1. Thanks B.R. Stephen (By the way. Do you know how to refresh Linux. Example. Start Linux but forget plugging in the Broadband. After having the cable connected instead of rebooting the PC, is there any easy way ? ) |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Liu |Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:55 PM |To: Tom Badran |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email | | |Hi Tom, | |Thanks for your advice. | |I used POP and repeated numerous configuration on Kmail |settings as follows ; (I skip Sending Mail configuration which |has no problem) | |INCOMING MAIL | |Account Type Pop Account |General Tab |Host pop.aaa.net (I also tried only aaa.net without pop) |Port 110 (defaut) |X Store POP password in configuration file |(also tried deselect this item) |X Delete mail file from server | |Security Tab |Under Encryption |- blank all items | |Under Authentication method |Tried all items | |Each time when I checked mail, following warning pop-up | |... |. |I said pass your password |And then the server said |-ERR authorization failed | |I tried numerous times and am quite sure the login and |password being correct. | |It did happen to me about 2 year ago. The PC encrypted the |password making |ISP server unable to recognize it. However I fixed it |finally. Unfortunately now I could not recall the steps taken |to make such |a remedy. | |Thanks | |B.R. |Stephen Liu | | |At 11:35 PM 11/9/2001 +, you wrote: |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |On Friday 09 Nov 2001 5:02 pm, you wrote: | Hi All People, | | I encounter another problem in running Mandrake 8.1 Each |time when I | check mail in Kmail, a warning pop-up saying Error, incorrect | password. But it can send emails without problem. I am |quite sure | the password entered in configuration is correct. | |Sending and recieving use two completely different servers, |and sending |rarely requires any user/pass authentication, it tends to be |done on an |ip bases. Are you using a pop/imap client? I use pop and it has never |failed on me - unless i type the wrong password/username/servername. |Double check your setup and make sure all the above (and port - leave |as default if unsure) are correct. Also, you need to tell it to save |the password, it is not on by defauilt if i remember correctly. | |- -- |Tom Tomahawk Badran |Imperial College Dept of Computing Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email
Hi Tom, Thanks for your advice. I used POP and repeated numerous configuration on Kmail settings as follows ; (I skip Sending Mail configuration which has no problem) INCOMING MAIL Account Type Pop Account General Tab Host pop.aaa.net (I also tried only aaa.net without pop) Port 110 (defaut) X Store POP password in configuration file (also tried deselect this item) X Delete mail file from server Security Tab Under Encryption - blank all items Under Authentication method Tried all items Each time when I checked mail, following warning pop-up ... . I said pass your password And then the server said -ERR authorization failed I tried numerous times and am quite sure the login and password being correct. It did happen to me about 2 year ago. The PC encrypted the password making ISP server unable to recognize it. However I fixed it finally. Unfortunately now I could not recall the steps taken to make such a remedy. Thanks B.R. Stephen Liu At 11:35 PM 11/9/2001 +, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 Nov 2001 5:02 pm, you wrote: Hi All People, I encounter another problem in running Mandrake 8.1 Each time when I check mail in Kmail, a warning pop-up saying Error, incorrect password. But it can send emails without problem. I am quite sure the password entered in configuration is correct. Sending and recieving use two completely different servers, and sending rarely requires any user/pass authentication, it tends to be done on an ip bases. Are you using a pop/imap client? I use pop and it has never failed on me - unless i type the wrong password/username/servername. Double check your setup and make sure all the above (and port - leave as default if unsure) are correct. Also, you need to tell it to save the password, it is not on by defauilt if i remember correctly. - -- Tom Tomahawk Badran Imperial College Dept of Computing Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email
Hi Jose, At 07:48 AM 11/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: You don't have the Telnet client RPM installed. You'll need it on your system first... I have RPM telnet. But Kmail sitll could not download emails from ISP server with the same warning pop-up when I made following test. From Konsole window I typed telnet pop.aaa.net 110 (also tried aaa.net without pop) and it prompted Trying xxx.x.xxx.xxx ... Connected to smtp01.aaa.net (xxx.x.xxx.xxx) Escape character is ' ^] ' + OK [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I typed either login or password it prompted _ERR. authorization first. I tried to locate the log file but could not discover it. Have you had any recommendation ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen |-Original Message- |From: Stephen Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:37 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email | | |Hi Jose, | |At 02:59 AM 11/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: |Try talking to the server directly to verify your password... | |I.E. | |telnet servername 110 | |I tried both at root as well as user | |In Konsole window | |telnet pop.aaa.net 110 |bash: telnet: command not found | |I made a quick browse but could not discover telnet command in /bin | |I could not discover the mistake committed. In another PC |running Win ME, |I configure Eudora with the same settings and it works fine |without problem. | |I encountered the same problem before but unfortunately I |could not recall |how to rectify it because I have been away from Linux for some |times. In |the early version of Linux only root can send and receive |emails as well as |browsing the web. You have to chmod to allow the user having such |authorities. | |Adding to my problem is my Mandrake 8.1 being not very |stable. Its PS/2 |port is still not working. | |Anyhow I am considering to have another round to re-install |Mandrake 8.1. | |Thanks | |B.R. |Stephen | |(By the way. Do you know how to refresh Linux. | |Example. |Start Linux but forget plugging in the Broadband. After |having the cable |connected instead of rebooting the PC, is there any easy way ? ) | | ||-Original Message- ||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Liu ||Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:55 PM ||To: Tom Badran ||Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Subject: Re: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email || || ||Hi Tom, || ||Thanks for your advice. || ||I used POP and repeated numerous configuration on Kmail settings as ||follows ; (I skip Sending Mail configuration which has no problem) || ||INCOMING MAIL || ||Account Type Pop Account ||General Tab ||Host pop.aaa.net (I also tried only aaa.net without pop) ||Port 110 (defaut) ||X Store POP password in configuration file ||(also tried deselect this item) ||X Delete mail file from server || ||Security Tab ||Under Encryption ||- blank all items || ||Under Authentication method ||Tried all items || ||Each time when I checked mail, following warning pop-up || ||... ||. ||I said pass your password ||And then the server said ||-ERR authorization failed || ||I tried numerous times and am quite sure the login and |password being ||correct. || ||It did happen to me about 2 year ago. The PC encrypted the password ||making ISP server unable to recognize it. However I fixed it ||finally. Unfortunately now I could not recall the steps taken ||to make such ||a remedy. || ||Thanks || ||B.R. ||Stephen Liu || || ||At 11:35 PM 11/9/2001 +, you wrote: ||-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ||Hash: SHA1 || ||On Friday 09 Nov 2001 5:02 pm, you wrote: || Hi All People, || || I encounter another problem in running Mandrake 8.1 Each ||time when I || check mail in Kmail, a warning pop-up saying Error, incorrect || password. But it can send emails without problem. I am ||quite sure || the password entered in configuration is correct. || ||Sending and recieving use two completely different servers, ||and sending ||rarely requires any user/pass authentication, it tends to be ||done on an ||ip bases. Are you using a pop/imap client? I use pop and it |has never ||failed on me - unless i type the wrong |password/username/servername. ||Double check your setup and make sure all the above (and |port - leave ||as default if unsure) are correct. Also, you need to tell |it to save ||the password, it is not on by defauilt if i remember correctly. || ||- -- ||Tom Tomahawk Badran ||Imperial College Dept of Computing Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail cannot receive email but can send email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 11 Nov 2001 9:30 am, you wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for your advice. I used POP and repeated numerous configuration on Kmail settings as follows ; (I skip Sending Mail configuration which has no problem) INCOMING MAIL Account Type Pop Account General Tab Host pop.aaa.net (I also tried only aaa.net without pop) Port 110 (defaut) X Store POP password in configuration file (also tried deselect this item) X Delete mail file from server Security Tab Under Encryption - blank all items Under Authentication method Tried all items Are you absoloutely sure your email is not supposed to be retrieved encrypted? i.e through ssl? Also, have you tried setting up fetchmail to do it (install fetchmailconf to make your life much easier there) as this has support for various pop protocols, and not just pop3. If you cant make it work under fetchmail, i would be very suprised. - -- Tom Tomahawk Badran Imperial College Dept of Computing - - PGP Public key available from: certserver.pgp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE77mO9XCpWOla2mCcRAg4EAJ0XNKuhBFJSo1S3UhUUyMlW6OoBQwCgqaiM pkp16rFzsiM2G7LS6x+I1Do= =yWyQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] POP3 fails suddenly under Linux (Mandrake 8.1)
I don't know of your answer, however, you could try setting up fetchmail to get your mail and put it in a local user mailbox and set your own box to serve pop3 for your client.. I have done that before sucessfully. it seems most likely that your isp as changed something? what are you using to check your mail? kmail, evolution, netscape mail, do they all not work? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rony Shapiro Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] POP3 fails suddenly under Linux (Mandrake 8.1) Hi, This is probably the wrong forum, but I'm out of ideas... Setup: Dual boot machine connected to Internet via Alcatel ADSL modem, pptp under Linux (Mandrake 8.1), or win2k. For browsing and sending e-mail, both OS's are fine. For the last few days, however, I am unable to retreive e-mail via POP3 on Linux, while win2k works fine. Tcpdump shows that the RETR 1 command is accepted by the pop server, which replies +OK and stops. (I don't have a sniffer for win2k.) This used to work fine under Linux, and I have changed nothing in my configuration. Before I get totally paranoid here, I'd appreciate any ideas, hints or clues. Booting win2k to read mail is a bummer! Thanks, Rony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] POP3 fails suddenly under Linux (Mandrake 8.1)
Hi Frank, Indeed, it looks as if my ISP broke something - this morning, things started working again! A close look at tcpdump on both success and failures revealed a difference in the TCP window size: Good: 17:17:50.752336 pop-server.110 client.3339: P 111:128(17) ack 50 win 17471 (DF) [...] 0x0020 5018 443f dbf6 2b4f 4b20 3138 3636P.D?+OK.1866 0x0030 206f 6374 6574 730d 0a .octets.. Bad: 16:31:23.011154 pop-server.110 client.3330: P 111:117(6) ack 50 win 5840 (DF) [...] 0x0020 5018 16d0 1747 2b4f 4b20 0d0a PG..+OK... My TCP is a bit rusty, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's an MTU problem. I duplicated the problem with a straight 'telnet pop-server 110', so I don't think it's a mail client problem. I like the fetchmail suggestion, though. Thanks, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] POP3 fails suddenly under Linux (Mandrake 8.1) I don't know of your answer, however, you could try setting up fetchmail to get your mail and put it in a local user mailbox and set your own box to serve pop3 for your client.. I have done that before sucessfully. it seems most likely that your isp as changed something? what are you using to check your mail? kmail, evolution, netscape mail, do they all not work? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rony Shapiro Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] POP3 fails suddenly under Linux (Mandrake 8.1) Hi, This is probably the wrong forum, but I'm out of ideas... Setup: Dual boot machine connected to Internet via Alcatel ADSL modem, pptp under Linux (Mandrake 8.1), or win2k. For browsing and sending e-mail, both OS's are fine. For the last few days, however, I am unable to retreive e-mail via POP3 on Linux, while win2k works fine. Tcpdump shows that the RETR 1 command is accepted by the pop server, which replies +OK and stops. (I don't have a sniffer for win2k.) This used to work fine under Linux, and I have changed nothing in my configuration. Before I get totally paranoid here, I'd appreciate any ideas, hints or clues. Booting win2k to read mail is a bummer! Thanks, Rony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Home directory permissions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just noticed that the home directories, by default are readable (although not writeable) by all users. How can i change the default behaviour so that home directories are only readable by the owner after creating new users, so i dont have to do it manually. Thx - -- Tom Tomahawk Badran Imperial College Dept of Computing - - PGP Public key available from: certserver.pgp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE77m6bXCpWOla2mCcRAs3tAKCxoKypGavzI5cSUccuVCsmsJDEKACfXpwn 7jb9hS6Jwb4aAmjNPuaG7Ig= =UVC6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enough! What is wrong with linux and cdwriters?
On Sunday 11 November 2001 03:20 am, Miaoling Chiu wrote: Just last week, there was quite a big discussion on The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) about a software reviewer who described the sort of intermittant problems you are having (and worse) until he set his hard drives to jumper select - I believe that the same type of problems would apply to Atapi CD drives too. Could be the problem, but your answer is sort'a kind'a backwards ;) Many drives are factory set to 'cable select'(CS), specially in ready made junk like Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc. The fix is to properly set the jumpers to either 'master' or 'slave' depending if the drive is on the end of the cable (master) or on the middle connector (slave). Applies to all drives, HDD's and CD's. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA chmod +x /bin/Laden.al-Qaeda.Taliban Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Floppy problem
I've posted portions of this a couple times, but haven't received a correct answer, yet. I see Civileme has answered a couple questions lately, so I assume he survived the 8.1 release. I'm directing this toward him, but if anybody else can help it'll be appreciated. I installed 8.1 on a Pll 400 with the 440 BX chipset. It has 192MB RAM and a 12 GB hard drive. The HD is Windows/8.1 dual boot using the boot from floppy option. On the 8.1 side I have a Reiser no tail root and home and my swap partition. I read something about problems between Reiser and NFS, I'm running netfs, network, and nfslock under services. My problem is I can use my floppy normally as root, but not as a user. As a user I can format a floppy, but the only way I can mount is to su to root, enter mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy. If I use my icon or enter mount /mnt/floppy I get the error message, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems. If I su to root and mount it I can then control it as the user. Dmesg gives the following tidbits: EXT2-fs:Unreconized mount option iocharset floppy 0:data CRC error:track 0,head 1,sector 8, size 2 end.request:I/O error,dev02:lc(floppy),sector 25 ls -l /dev/fd0 gives the following tidbits: lr-xr-xr-x /root 8 Nov 7 06:22 /dev/fd0-floppy/0 Here's my fstab entry for the floppy: /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy, auto iocharset=iso 8859-1,sync,umask=0 nosuid,exec,user,noauto,codepage=850,nodev,unhide 0 0 I tried adding nobiospnp to /etc/lilo.conf, no joy. I'll appreciate any help you can give me Civileme. Randy Donohoe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [newbie] CDRW problem
Dennis, you Da Man. however, in my case, I think I need to do a mknod cdrom3, since I already have a dvd on ide0 slave, and a cdrom on ide1 slave. got any idea what the major and minor numbers should be, or where to find that info? then I can do the link. - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW problem On Tuesday 06 November 2001 21:56, you wrote: so what should I put to get my USB cdwriter to be ide-scsi? I know I had it working good, along with the other cd (ide0 slave) and the dvd (ide1 slave) in 8.0 I remember I had to create a link for cdrom3 to scd0, and edit lilo.conf append statement, but I don't remember the syntax. - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW problem On Tuesday 06 November 2001 18:31, you wrote: I might be able to do it from the command line but Gcombust can't find the drive. I think my problem is that the ide-scsi driver isn't installed. At 09:07 AM 11/6/2001 +0100, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Actually you don't need to -mount- it to use cdrecord. The mounting as 'read only' is quite correct as you are mounting the existing file system on the cdrom rather than the drive itself. Stick in a blank writable cd and (hopefully) just burn away :) Excepting 'koncd' that is :( Good Luck, Harm Right, now that I think about it if you use lilo you should have an append the says hdx=ide-scsi hdy=ide-floppy quiet and the hdx and hdy depends on how your system sees the devices. such as hdb or hdd etc..Try appending that to lilo or feeding it in at boot. HTH -- Dennis M. -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ed, the syntax is (change for your config naturally): # cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom HTH -- Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cups high cup load
I have latest cups rpm running on Mandrake 8.1 and it shows 99% cpu in top most all the time. On a different system running an older version of Mandrake, cups shows less than 1% cpu when it's not printing. Has anyone else had this problem, and does anyone have a cure or any ideas on what to check or change? -- Brian - [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Home Page: http://www.brimac.com/~brianmac Fine Photos: http://www.brimacphotography.com Art for Sale: http://www.artbrowser.com Classified Advertising: http://www.sellit2000.com A belly button is for salt when you eat celery in bed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?
My experience: 64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other programs, like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash x-terminal shells, then your machine will start swapping. Seak, Teng-Fong wrote: A question of curiosity: how to know in what memory (physical or virtual) a programme's code and its data/stack resides? Why do I ask such a question? Sometimes when I quit a programme, the hard disk is very active for quite a while. It's just like something is read/written to it while the programme is quitting. But if the programme resides totally in physical memory, there shouldn't be such activity. The PC has got 64 MB. Don't tell me Linux kernel and X use up all physical memory! Fong Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?
A couple of more things. on the command line, type: free to see how much memory your Linux box uses. Better yet, you can use a GUI application called: xosview Hope thses helped. Seak, Teng-Fong wrote: A question of curiosity: how to know in what memory (physical or virtual) a programme's code and its data/stack resides? Why do I ask such a question? Sometimes when I quit a programme, the hard disk is very active for quite a while. It's just like something is read/written to it while the programme is quitting. But if the programme resides totally in physical memory, there shouldn't be such activity. The PC has got 64 MB. Don't tell me Linux kernel and X use up all physical memory! Fong Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?
64MB? Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;) I |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Craig Woods |Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:37 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain |programme/data resides? | | | | Fong | | |You say all as if 64M is a lot of RAM. Yes, I must tell you |that X will eat that much RAM for breakfast but so will most |other current OS's running some kind of GUI crap | |-- |J. Craig Woods |UNIX/NT SA | |-Art is the illusion of spontaneity- | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] raid and mandrake
On Sunday 11 November 2001 05:12 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2001 10:55 pm, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Are there stats to backup the fact that linux software raid is faster than the highpoint chips+linux software raid - I have not seen any articals to that effect http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=450lang=en I'd want Civileme to respond to your speed query rather than try to speak for him. I would add tho, that the win-raid fad that many popular boards came out with a while back, requires a pcb design that actually introduces many problems. I believe it is at the heart of the much (over)hyped VIA-IDE 'bug' problems. Fortunately this win-raid kludge fad appears to have died out with mostly clueless windoze users being the majority of those who got snookered. Most from reading favorable win-raid motherboard reviews on otherwise respectable windoze hardware sites. eg, Tom's Hardware, Anand, Ars Technica, etc. There is nothing to indicate that RAID0 under linux software RAID would be any slower or faster than RAID0 on one of the HPT or Promise RAID controllers. If you want higher performance on that, you need real hardware. Of course these hardware sites reviewed RAID favorably because it gave some performance hains in Windows over the regular stuff, but realize that these are basically WinRAID controllers. Obviously if many windows users have the setup, and feel the need to access their WinRAID partition (yeah singular--you get _one_ RAID partition with these controllers) and use dual-boot, a project would be in order to assist them, but notice it is not by commercial distributors. Even the linux-ide project has no personnel involved. Andre Hedrick wrote quite an interesting letter about this junk on kernel traffic, more than a year ago, as you can discover from the link Tom posted. For right now, the Promixe RAID controllers are supported for one drive per channel, as regular controllers, and the HPTs seem to work somewhat better as regular controllers. There is a supported hardware IDE RAID documented at www.linux-ide.org and it does work very well indeed. It is a tad on the expensive side, but it could work wonders in limited space (one device runs two 2.5 notebook size drives as a RAID0 or RAID1 totally transparent to the system in a single 3.5 bay--great for a high-reliability thin box... Civileme QA team Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?
You have a point. On Sunday 11 November 2001 19:52, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: 64MB? Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fax Software
All Just looking for some suggestions for setting up a fax server on a small network. The network contains a few PCs, and a couple of Linux boxes. The server has a modem, so it looked like a good candidate to be set up as a fax server. What I was thinking was a network available fax (set up to look like a printer..), so I could send faxes from within my word processor, or whatever. efax is pretty much loaded by default on 8.1, but also on the disk is hylafax. Has anyone had any experience with either of these? If so, could you pass along some thoughts? efax seems to have the ability to e-Mail your faxes to you (nice feature!) without having to do a bunch of scripting. How about hylafax? Or is there something better out there? Anyway, I'd appreciate any input you might have. I reading the man pages for efax, and fax now. But don't want to install hylafax if it's no better than efax. ;) Thanks in advance! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SB Live Synth?
Hi again everyone, I've been trying to get my midi synth setup on LM 8.1, and I'm a bit stumped. It looks like Mandrake installed Alsa, but setup my card with OSS/Lite? *sigh* Is it possible to get DrakeConf to use Alsa instead? Or, does the Kernel perhaps have the experimental midi synth for SB Live compiled into it? Any comments on success on this sort of thing would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim -- - Timothy R. Butler | Universal Networks | http://www.uninet.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 12495932 AIM: Uninettm Christian Portal and Search Tool:http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz == Christian Web Services Since 1996 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Fax Software
Hi, I've installed hylafax on Mandrake 8.1 with no problems. It seems to be better documented than fax/efax, at least. Very easy to set up. enjoy, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:59 AM To: mandrake expert Subject: [expert] Fax Software All Just looking for some suggestions for setting up a fax server on a small network. The network contains a few PCs, and a couple of Linux boxes. The server has a modem, so it looked like a good candidate to be set up as a fax server. What I was thinking was a network available fax (set up to look like a printer..), so I could send faxes from within my word processor, or whatever. efax is pretty much loaded by default on 8.1, but also on the disk is hylafax. Has anyone had any experience with either of these? If so, could you pass along some thoughts? efax seems to have the ability to e-Mail your faxes to you (nice feature!) without having to do a bunch of scripting. How about hylafax? Or is there something better out there? Anyway, I'd appreciate any input you might have. I reading the man pages for efax, and fax now. But don't want to install hylafax if it's no better than efax. ;) Thanks in advance! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] desktop icons
I've been using Gnome (Sawfish) and today my desktop icons disappeared. How do I get them back again. Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fax Software
Which parts of it did you install? There are 4 files on the CD: hylafax-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm hylafax-client-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm hylafax-server-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm libhylafax4-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm Do you need all of them? Also, were you able to set it up as a network printer? Thanks! Ric Rony Shapiro wrote: Hi, I've installed hylafax on Mandrake 8.1 with no problems. It seems to be better documented than fax/efax, at least. Very easy to set up. enjoy, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:59 AM To: mandrake expert Subject: [expert] Fax Software All Just looking for some suggestions for setting up a fax server on a small network. The network contains a few PCs, and a couple of Linux boxes. The server has a modem, so it looked like a good candidate to be set up as a fax server. What I was thinking was a network available fax (set up to look like a printer..), so I could send faxes from within my word processor, or whatever. efax is pretty much loaded by default on 8.1, but also on the disk is hylafax. Has anyone had any experience with either of these? If so, could you pass along some thoughts? efax seems to have the ability to e-Mail your faxes to you (nice feature!) without having to do a bunch of scripting. How about hylafax? Or is there something better out there? Anyway, I'd appreciate any input you might have. I reading the man pages for efax, and fax now. But don't want to install hylafax if it's no better than efax. ;) Thanks in advance! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] raid and mandrake
civileme wrote: On Sunday 11 November 2001 05:12 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2001 10:55 pm, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Are there stats to backup the fact that linux software raid is faster than the highpoint chips+linux software raid - I have not seen any articals to that effect http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=450lang=en I'd want Civileme to respond to your speed query rather than try to speak for him. I would add tho, that the win-raid fad that many popular boards came out with a while back, requires a pcb design that actually introduces many problems. I believe it is at the heart of the much (over)hyped VIA-IDE 'bug' problems. Fortunately this win-raid kludge fad appears to have died out with mostly clueless windoze users being the majority of those who got snookered. Most from reading favorable win-raid motherboard reviews on otherwise respectable windoze hardware sites. eg, Tom's Hardware, Anand, Ars Technica, etc. There is nothing to indicate that RAID0 under linux software RAID would be any slower or faster than RAID0 on one of the HPT or Promise RAID controllers. If you want higher performance on that, you need real hardware. Of course these hardware sites reviewed RAID favorably because it gave some performance hains in Windows over the regular stuff, but realize that these are basically WinRAID controllers. Obviously if many windows users have the setup, and feel the need to access their WinRAID partition (yeah singular--you get _one_ RAID partition with these controllers) and use dual-boot, a project would be in order to assist them, but notice it is not by commercial distributors. What?? That last sentence is absolutely cryptic! What do you mean that you only get one RAID partition with these controllers? Once you setup the array, you can partition the drives as though they were only one drive - you can have as many partitions as you can without raid. Even the linux-ide project has no personnel involved. Andre Hedrick wrote quite an interesting letter about this junk on kernel traffic, more than a year ago, as you can discover from the link Tom posted. For right now, the Promixe RAID controllers are supported for one drive per channel, as regular controllers, and the HPTs seem to work somewhat better as regular controllers. That depends on what controller you're talking about. The fasttrak 66/100 add-on cards work the same as your existing ide controllers; two devices per channel - two channels onboard. When you create the array, you have the choice of 2, 3 or 4 ide devices in that array. There is a supported hardware IDE RAID documented at www.linux-ide.org and it does work very well indeed. It is a tad on the expensive side, but it could work wonders in limited space (one device runs two 2.5 notebook size drives as a RAID0 or RAID1 totally transparent to the system in a single 3.5 bay--great for a high-reliability thin box... Civileme QA team Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)
How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms? I put the users I want to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of hdc. Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom. Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default? Darren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)
They generally are able to without any problem on my machine running MDK 8,0. Please check the permissions for /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdd or whatever your cdrom is referred to. Arnab -- From: Darren King[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0) File: message.footer.txt How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms? I put the users I want to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of hdc. Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom. Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default? Darren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Fax Software
Hi, Actually, I downloaded the source tarball from hylafax.org and built/installed that (no particular reason - at the time, the site was easier to get to than the CDs). Attached is the script I use to send all incoming faxes directly to the printer - I assume that's what you meant. Install it in /var/spool/hylafax/bin instead of the original faxrcvd (which e-mails the faxes as attachments). enjoy, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Fax Software Which parts of it did you install? There are 4 files on the CD: hylafax-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm hylafax-client-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm hylafax-server-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm libhylafax4-4.1-5mdk.i586.rpm Do you need all of them? Also, were you able to set it up as a network printer? Thanks! Ric Rony Shapiro wrote: Hi, I've installed hylafax on Mandrake 8.1 with no problems. It seems to be better documented than fax/efax, at least. Very easy to set up. enjoy, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:59 AM To: mandrake expert Subject: [expert] Fax Software All Just looking for some suggestions for setting up a fax server on a small network. The network contains a few PCs, and a couple of Linux boxes. The server has a modem, so it looked like a good candidate to be set up as a fax server. What I was thinking was a network available fax (set up to look like a printer..), so I could send faxes from within my word processor, or whatever. efax is pretty much loaded by default on 8.1, but also on the disk is hylafax. Has anyone had any experience with either of these? If so, could you pass along some thoughts? efax seems to have the ability to e-Mail your faxes to you (nice feature!) without having to do a bunch of scripting. How about hylafax? Or is there something better out there? Anyway, I'd appreciate any input you might have. I reading the man pages for efax, and fax now. But don't want to install hylafax if it's no better than efax. ;) Thanks in advance! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com faxrcvd Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] SB Live Synth?
It works great. Follow my enclosed directions... --- SNIP --- I'm quoting my own message(s) to someone else about this who also had their SB Live misconfigured... The key is to remove ALL memory resident modules and references to them in /etc/modules.conf... Then after everything is cleared from RAM and the files, reconfigure the SBLive from the Mandrake Control Panel, and NOT from sndconfig. This greatly affects the configuration for the SBLive, and even gets the sound fonts Midi Synth to work properly!!! (Yeah) |-Original Message- |From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:29 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] alsa or xmms? | | |On Saturday 27 October 2001 01:05 am, you wrote: | In the KDE Control Center set; | | Sound I/O Method to Advanced Linux Sound Architecture | | Yse Custom Sampling rate 48000 | | Sound Quality Autodetect. | | In General | | Turn ON Start aRts soundserver on KDE start. | | BTW: Do you see the soundblaster midi devices under MIDI? |(You should | see 4-5 devices under midi.) | | You should, if not you haven't configured your SBLIVE |properly and it | should be redone... | | In Xmms, set Outplug plugin to eSound Output plugin exit XMMS, do | NOT play anything initially. The settings do not take until you exit | and go back into XMMS. | | Then bring up Auxmix and turn everything up. Go back into |KDE-Control | and save the volume levels. | | Reboot (or kill off any sound related processes your |display manager | for good measure, also restart the sound service.) | | Go back into KDE. | | Open a terminal and backspace. Instead of a beep, you should get a | bell via your sound card. | | Do you? | | If so try out xmms now. | | -JMS | |Hi, Jose, I show no midi devices and can not find the output plugin you |mention. I have done sndconfig a couple of times and still get |no midi config |how is this done? Thanks for your help | --- Snip --- Well you are missing A LOT!!! You will get all of this if you follow my directions under LM8.1 . Check out my lsmod... Module Size Used by agpgart26752 3 (autoclean) NVdriver 715200 17 (autoclean) ncpfs 38000 1 (autoclean) binfmt_misc 6208 1 joydev 6176 0 (unused) emu10k1-gp 1456 0 (unused) analog 7488 0 (unused) gameport1856 0 [emu10k1-gp analog] input 3648 0 [joydev analog] snd-synth-emu10k1 4432 0 (autoclean) snd-synth-emux 26784 0 (autoclean) [snd-synth-emu10k1] snd-seq-midi-emul 4944 0 (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux] snd-seq-virmidi 8304 0 (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux] snd-seq-midi3552 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-seq-oss28944 0 snd-seq-midi-event 3216 0 [snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss] snd-seq41856 0 [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss18624 0 snd-pcm-plugin 15792 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-mixer-oss 4800 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-card-emu10k12368 0 snd-emu10k122320 0 [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-card-emu10k1] snd-pcm31616 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-emu10k1] snd-timer 8528 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] snd-rawmidi10048 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1] snd-emux-mem1776 0 [snd-synth-emux snd-emu10k1] snd-ac97-codec 25056 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-mixer 24544 0 [snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1 snd-ac97-codec] snd-seq-device 3984 0 [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-synth-emux snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-card-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi] snd35248 1 [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-emu10k1 snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-emux-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-seq-device] soundcore 4208 9 [snd] parport_pc 20240 1 (autoclean) lp 5808 0 (autoclean) parport24768 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] nfsd 70464 8 (autoclean) nfs75072 6 (autoclean) lockd 51440 1 (autoclean) [nfsd nfs] sunrpc 66480 1 (autoclean) [nfsd nfs lockd] autofs4 9600 2 (autoclean) af_packet 12560 0 (autoclean) appletalk 21072 0 (autoclean) ipx16640 18 (autoclean) ip_vs 62000 0 (autoclean) acquirewdt 1504 0 (unused) softdog 1584 0 (unused) usb-uhci 21232 0 (unused) usbcore50752 1 [usb-uhci] 3c59x 25952 1 (autoclean) nls_iso8859-1 2880 3 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3632
RE: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)
I changed the permissions but that had no effect. I fixed it by setting the security level to medium, when it was at high. Anyone know of any problems with having my system using the medium security setting? Darren On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:14, Arnab_Ganguly wrote: They generally are able to without any problem on my machine running MDK 8,0. Please check the permissions for /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdd or whatever your cdrom is referred to. Arnab -- From: Darren King[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0) File: message.footer.txt How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms? I put the users I want to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of hdc. Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom. Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default? Darren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com