RE: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)

2001-11-12 Thread Arnab_Ganguly

I'd still say check permissions as this happened to me once before and was a
permissions problem. Check through permissions for /dev and also check the
/etc/fstab for user permissions to mount etc. This could of course be
something more involved, but let us look at the simple ones first.

Arnab

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 I changed the permissions but that had no effect.  I fixed it by setting
 the security level to medium, when it was at high.  Anyone know of any
 problems with having my system using the medium security setting?
 
 Darren
 
 On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:14, Arnab_Ganguly wrote:
  They generally are able to without any problem on my machine running MDK
  8,0. Please check the permissions for /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdd or whatever
 your
  cdrom is referred to.
  
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   How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms?  I put the users I want
   to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of
   hdc.  Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom. 
   Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default?
   
   Darren
   
   
   
  
  
  
 
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RE: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)

2001-11-12 Thread Darren King

permissions on /dev/hdc were root:cdrom, 640.  The user was in the cdrom
group, couln even cd into /mnt/cdrom.  Mount options were: nosuid,
noexec, user, nodev, noauto.

any of this wrong?

On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:59, Arnab_Ganguly wrote:
 I'd still say check permissions as this happened to me once before and was a
 permissions problem. Check through permissions for /dev and also check the
 /etc/fstab for user permissions to mount etc. This could of course be
 something more involved, but let us look at the simple ones first.
 
 Arnab
 
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  I changed the permissions but that had no effect.  I fixed it by setting
  the security level to medium, when it was at high.  Anyone know of any
  problems with having my system using the medium security setting?
  
  Darren
  
  On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:14, Arnab_Ganguly wrote:
   They generally are able to without any problem on my machine running MDK
   8,0. Please check the permissions for /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdd or whatever
  your
   cdrom is referred to.
   
   Arnab
   
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How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms?  I put the users I want
to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of
hdc.  Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom. 
Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default?

Darren



   
   
   
  
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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

ltiu wrote:

My experience:

64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will 
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter 
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other programs, 
like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash x-terminal shells, then your 
machine will start swapping.

 I don't know if what you say is true, and if it is, there's really 
a regression in Linux performance.  Before, it was possible to run Linux 
in a 16MB machine.  Kernel using less than 4MB and X less than 4MB too. 
 I can't imagine that kernel and X alone could use up to 64MB.




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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

ltiu wrote:

A couple of more things.

on the command line, type:

free

to see how much memory your Linux box uses.

Better yet, you can use a GUI application called:

xosview

Hope thses helped.

 Nope, with those commands we can't see in what kind of memory a 
certain programme is running.





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[Fwd: Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?]

2001-11-12 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

Jose M. Sanchez wrote:

64MB?

Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)

 Yes, but that's for zbuffering or whatever 3D rendering used by 3D 
chipsets.  If you don't do 3D, 64 MB is a waste of money.  But well, who 
can resist Unreal :) ?  And those 64MB are on the graphics board, not 
the motherboard.

   





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Re: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)

2001-11-12 Thread g

Darren King wrote:

 permissions on /dev/hdc were root:cdrom, 640.  The user was in the cdrom
 group, couln even cd into /mnt/cdrom.  Mount options were: nosuid,
 noexec, user, nodev, noauto.
 
 any of this wrong?

could be.

on my system,

  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root  3 nov  6 22:36 cdrom - hdc
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root  4 oct 12 11:40 cdrom2 - scd0

  brw-r-  1 root   cdrom22,  0 apr 14  2001 hdc
  brw-rw  1 root   cdwriter 11,  0 apr 14  2001 scd0

  -rwsr-xr-x  1 root   root  58972 apr 11  2001 /bin/mount

  drwxrwxrwx  1 root   cdrom 0 nov 10 05:56 cdrom/
  drwxr-xr-x  1 root   cdrom  4096 oct 12 11:21 cdrom2/

hth.


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Re: [expert] desktop icons

2001-11-12 Thread Alfredo Yunes



Open a terminal and type oaf-slay. If that doesn't work on the same terminal
type nautilus. Hope that helps.


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RE: [expert] desktop icons

2001-11-12 Thread David Robertson

If you're using Nautilus, go into preferences and make sure that Use
Nautilus to draw the desktop is checked. I think it's in
Preferences/Desktop and appearance or something and you need to set your
preferences to at least intermediate. Then re-start gnome.

David


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How do I get them back again.

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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

  Jose M. Sanchez wrote:

Eh, I was being facetious, hence the smiley.

 Sure I know you're facetious, but I'm afraid newbies would take it 
too seriously and thus acquired wrong knowledge, so I gave more 
explanations.

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[expert] radio program for linux

2001-11-12 Thread Harold Hartley

I was wondering what radio program to listen to music is available for linux..
Hope someone can point me in the right direction.

Harold



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[expert] radio app for linux

2001-11-12 Thread Harold Hartley

I am wondering what there is for a radio app might be available for linux.

Harold



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Re: [expert] Enough! What is wrong with linux and cdwriters?

2001-11-12 Thread James Francis

On Friday 09 November 2001 09:41 pm, you wrote:
 Here we go again!  Just rebooted and tried to burn a CD.  It failed - even
 though I am using supermount, it failed to mount the CDROM so it failed. I
 then tried again AFTER mounting the CD that I wanted to copy.  No worky. 
 The CDRW has a constant, blinking activity light and it is now impossible
 to remove the blank without rebooting.  Upon trying to burn it again after
 mounting the CD with the image I wanted to burn, I get this message (in
 gcombust):
  praedor

Praedor 
FWIW, I have set up all my ATAPI burners up according to the following 
mini-howto. Mandrake 8.1 does this for you if the drive was in the machine 
when you installed.

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue57/stoddard.html

My burner, a Creative 12x10x32 is master on second ide channel, slave is 40x 
ide reader. I turned off devfs, although I think it will work with it on. I 
don't use supermount.

Machine is ASUS P5AB board, K62-450, 256 meg ram, burns fine at 10x cdrw and 
12x cdr, usually need  to hit detect scsi drive in gcombust before I burn or 
run cdrecord -scanbus.
Hope this helps.

James



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[expert] problems with /mnt under kde (segfault)

2001-11-12 Thread Jose Orlando T. Ribeiro


Hi!

When I try to  open the /mnt dir under kde using any of the graphics file-tools
(konqueror, XFMC, etc) the application closes, when I close X I can see the
message that the application segfaulted...

Someone have seen this??

By the way, in the prompt I can view /mnt. The problem happens either as user or
as root.

TIA

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Re: [expert] RAID

2001-11-12 Thread civileme

On Sunday 11 November 2001 08:12 am, Robert Boggs wrote:
 Anyone tried to use a hpt 370 controller setup as raid0? How difficult is
 this to do in 'Drake 8.1? Thanks RB


It is not possible to use the so-called hardware RAID controller as RAID in 
8.1 as the software to do so does not exist.  There is a project for it, but 
it is still at least as efficient to use linux software RAID on the 
controller, because they are both software RAIDs and the linux version does 
give you the source.  I am uncertain as to the status of the project now, but 
the drivers weren't ready at release time.  If you already have a RAID under 
windows and want to dual-boot, you will be able to do so but neither will see 
the other's partitions.

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Re: [expert] 8.0 to 8.1 Upgrade

2001-11-12 Thread Salvatore Enrico Indiogine

Just a shot in the dark, but try: rpm --rebuilddb

It is actually a good command to run after you do a lot of rpm installs 
and/or uninstalls.

Ciao,
Enrico

On Sunday 11 November 2001 18:29, you wrote:
 I did the 'upgrade' from 8.0 to 8.1. Now, any RPM command causes a
 segmentation fault, usually after it says 'D: getting list of mounted
 filesystems'. Wine also used to work, but it also gives me the
 segmentation fault error.

 I did a Google search and found nothing.

 Thanks in advance,

 Chuck

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RE: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?





Sorry about answering this late (this is my work account). when I say runs well I mean it's fast in 3D and 2D and quite stable. I have Quake3 for Linux, Tux Racer, and a couple of other 3D games for linux and all of them run impressively. For me, after using Linux for only 2 years, seeing accellerated 3D is still impressive. I'm used to it under Windows (been playing 3D games since 97-98), and I still wish that a few pieces of hardware had 3D support under Linux (Rendition V2200, intel i740, S3 Savage4), but seeing Quake3 on my GeForce2MX is still amazing.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 2:55 PM
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Hi,


When you say that it 'runs well' does it mean smooth? I mean, enough frames 
per second?


I guess you need to install the NVidia drivers, don't you?


I ask this becuase I have the same Nvidia chip and I may try to install and 
configure all the stuff if you say its worth.


You know, I am a bit freaked out by the 3 frames per second on the tuxracer 
(on the same machine allowing me to run Collin Mrae full speed at 
1024x768x16k, on windows 98 , and a bit slower but still ok on w2000).


Jose


El Jueves 08 Noviembre 2001 20:35, George Jones (IT) escribió:
 I'm using a GeForce2 MX. It runs beautifully. The only 3D game I have for
 Linux is Quake3 and it runs well. I would assume Tribes 2 would work well
 since it does under Win98.

 Why does there appear to be a bit of Nvidia resentment?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:02 AM
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 Subject: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?


 With all the hubbub about video cards,
 which ones are the best for stability
 and speed?

 I currently use a pci S3Virge Dx,
 has not died yet thank goodness,
 but I don't have any idea on what
 to use if it does.

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[expert] Old Riva Drivers

2001-11-12 Thread Leonardo T. de Carvalho



Hi all.

I'm looking for the NVidia drievrs version 1.0, which have
support for the Riva128 chipset .
On the net, nothing yet...
If anyone have a backup or link, plz send me!

Thanx in advance
Leonardo




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[expert] libpng not working in Mozilla/Galeon

2001-11-12 Thread Dave Sherman

Hello everyone,

Hoping someone can shed some light on this problem. I recently upgraded
(from Cooker) to Mozilla 0.9.5, and the latest Galeon as well. Along the
way, I als ohad to upgrade libpng from version 2 to 3.

Everything seemed to go well, I was able to meet all dependencies with a
minimum of hassle, and libpng upgraded just fine.

BUT ... now, neither Mozilla not Galeon are able to renger .png images!
If I look in /usr/lib/, I can see both libpng2 and libpng3:
libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
libpng.so.3 - libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
libpng.so.3.1.2.0*

I assume this is correct, because there are still many apps on my
mostly-stock 8.1 system that require libpng2.

I renamed the old libpng2 libraries, and made links with the same name
to libpng3, but that did not seem to work. In fact, Galeon would not
even launch! So, I named the libpng2 libraries back. At this point, I am
at a loss, not knowing enough about how shared libraries work, and
especially using different library versions.

Any help?

Dave
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Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread Nick Thompson

I finally got around to installing the nvidia drivers this weekend. I 
thought it might be difficult, but I just grabbed the two src.rpms and 
did an 'rpm --rebuild' followed by an 'rpm -ivh' for each and a vi on 
the X config file (as per the nvidia instructions) and it worked without 
a single hitch. on my LM8.1 K6-2 (400MHz) GeForce2 MX 32MB (£40), 
glxgears is up from 30fps, in its default window, to 875fps (up from 7 
to 126fps full screen). Tuxracer is up from 1 frame every 5-10 seconds 
to what looks like full speed video with no jurking at all. Very smooth 
- I was very impressed. I think my GPU must outpower my CPU ;-)

Install those drivers and I think you'll be very happy too.

Nick.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; George Jones (IT);
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?


 Hi,

 When you say that it 'runs well' does it mean smooth? I mean, enough 
 frames
 per second?

 I guess you need to install the NVidia drivers, don't you?

 I ask this becuase I have the same Nvidia chip and I may try to 
 install and
 configure all the stuff if you say its worth.

 You know, I am a bit freaked out by the 3 frames per second on the 
 tuxracer
 (on the same machine allowing me to run Collin Mrae full speed at
 1024x768x16k, on windows 98 , and a bit slower but still ok on w2000).






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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread ltiu

You have a point. It depends on your WM too. 64MB mem usage was on my desktop 
with KDE or GNOME. I have a laptop with 20MB RAM running kernel 2.2.19 and X 
but I use ICEWM and it all fits within 20MB. KDE and GNOME are monsters. My 
experience.

On Monday 12 November 2001 01:45, you wrote:
 ltiu wrote:
 My experience:
 
 64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will
 use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter
 window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other
  programs, like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash x-terminal
  shells, then your machine will start swapping.

  I don't know if what you say is true, and if it is, there's really
 a regression in Linux performance.  Before, it was possible to run Linux
 in a 16MB machine.  Kernel using less than 4MB and X less than 4MB too.
  I can't imagine that kernel and X alone could use up to 64MB.



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RE: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?





Just to let you guys know - installing the nvidia drivers from an rpm isn't totally necessary. 


-Original Message-
From: Nick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?



I finally got around to installing the nvidia drivers this weekend. I 
thought it might be difficult, but I just grabbed the two src.rpms and 
did an 'rpm --rebuild' followed by an 'rpm -ivh' for each and a vi on 
the X config file (as per the nvidia instructions) and it worked without 
a single hitch. on my LM8.1 K6-2 (400MHz) GeForce2 MX 32MB (£40), 
glxgears is up from 30fps, in its default window, to 875fps (up from 7 
to 126fps full screen). Tuxracer is up from 1 frame every 5-10 seconds 
to what looks like full speed video with no jurking at all. Very smooth 
- I was very impressed. I think my GPU must outpower my CPU ;-)


Install those drivers and I think you'll be very happy too.


Nick.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; George Jones (IT);
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?


 Hi,

 When you say that it 'runs well' does it mean smooth? I mean, enough 
 frames
 per second?

 I guess you need to install the NVidia drivers, don't you?

 I ask this becuase I have the same Nvidia chip and I may try to 
 install and
 configure all the stuff if you say its worth.

 You know, I am a bit freaked out by the 3 frames per second on the 
 tuxracer
 (on the same machine allowing me to run Collin Mrae full speed at
 1024x768x16k, on windows 98 , and a bit slower but still ok on w2000).








[expert] Using SMB shared printer from LM 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread Amit Bapat

I am having trouble using a printer connected to my w2k machine from my 
lm 8.1 machine. I used the printerdrake and selected SAMBA printer and 
all the other screens. It says it has configured the printer right but 
when I try to print a test page nothing happens

I can see the printer using smbclient program as shared from my W2K box.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
-nak




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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread ltiu

Oh, OK. 

Hmmm, sounds like a good open source project.


On Monday 12 November 2001 01:46, you wrote:
 ltiu wrote:
 A couple of more things.
 
 on the command line, type:
 
 free
 
 to see how much memory your Linux box uses.
 
 Better yet, you can use a GUI application called:
 
 xosview
 
 Hope thses helped.

  Nope, with those commands we can't see in what kind of memory a
 certain programme is running.



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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Michael D. Viron

At 10:45 AM 11/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
ltiu wrote:

My experience:

64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will 
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter 
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other
programs, 
like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash x-terminal shells, then
your 
machine will start swapping.

 I don't know if what you say is true, and if it is, there's really 
a regression in Linux performance.  Before, it was possible to run Linux 
in a 16MB machine.  Kernel using less than 4MB and X less than 4MB too. 
 I can't imagine that kernel and X alone could use up to 64MB.

We had Mandrake 7.0 for i486 running on 2 486/66's with 8 MB ram.  There
are, of course, linux's that will run on much less--heck there is even a
linux replacement / add on for the PalmOS.  And, if I remember correctly,
some team got linux running on a wristwatch.

Michael

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[Fwd: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?]

2001-11-12 Thread J. Craig Woods


-- 
J. Craig Woods
UNIX/NT SA

-Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
---BeginMessage---

Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
 
 64MB?
 
 Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)
 
 |
 |You say all as if 64M is a lot of RAM. Yes, I must tell you
 |that X will eat that much RAM for breakfast but so will most
 |other current OS's running some kind of GUI crap
 |
 
Jose, such trenchent wit...

I love it, and, yes, in today's world of graphic intensive games and
apps, you need at least that amount on the video card alone.

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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread ltiu

Your milaege will vary. My desktop computer has 448MB RAM now and I do not 
need or even have a swap partition anymore. In fact, I've never used up all 
the RAM with whatever I'm doing.

On Monday 12 November 2001 08:19, you wrote:
 At 10:45 AM 11/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
 ltiu wrote:
 My experience:
 
 64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it
  will use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a
  lighter window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start
  other

 programs,

 like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash x-terminal shells, then

 your

 machine will start swapping.
 
  I don't know if what you say is true, and if it is, there's really
 a regression in Linux performance.  Before, it was possible to run Linux
 in a 16MB machine.  Kernel using less than 4MB and X less than 4MB too.
  I can't imagine that kernel and X alone could use up to 64MB.

 We had Mandrake 7.0 for i486 running on 2 486/66's with 8 MB ram.  There
 are, of course, linux's that will run on much less--heck there is even a
 linux replacement / add on for the PalmOS.  And, if I remember correctly,
 some team got linux running on a wristwatch.

 Michael



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Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread Nick Thompson

Agreed, but what is your point? Installing from the rpms is easy (on rpm 
based systems) and the nvidia drivers provide much better 3D performance 
than the nv driver. Sure, you can use tar balls, but what is the 
advantage? The rpm install takes care of backing up the old mesa libs so 
that the nvidia rpms can be removed easily.

George Jones (IT) wrote:

 Just to let you guys know - installing the nvidia drivers from an rpm 
 isn't totally necessary.






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Re: [expert] wine

2001-11-12 Thread kons Richard Bown

Harold Hartley wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anyone on this list could point me to more info about how
 to get a windows app ( a ham radio program winaprs) to work under wine..
 The winaprs has all its own files so I don't need to worry about any windows
 system files..
 
 Harold
 
   
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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Monday 12 November 2001 17:13, you wrote:
 Oh, OK.

 Hmmm, sounds like a good open source project.



Hey, what about TOP ?

Good hunting
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Re: [expert] wine

2001-11-12 Thread Hoyt Duff

On Monday 12 November 2001 11:40 am, you wrote:
 Harold Hartley wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone on this list could point me to more info about
  how to get a windows app ( a ham radio program winaprs) to work under
  wine.. The winaprs has all its own files so I don't need to worry about
  any windows system files..
 

Do you need help with:

compiling wine?

installing wine?

configuring wine?

installing the Windows app?

(And, which distro/version of Linux? Which build of wine?)

Almost all of this is covered in the wine docs installed with wine or 
available at www. winehq.com.

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Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Nick:
Thanks for explaining to me why there has been all of the traffic about
nvidia drivers on both this list and the newbie list. Gotta check out
some of the local stores...
Regards,
Carroll


Nick Thompson wrote:
 
 I finally got around to installing the nvidia drivers this weekend. I
 thought it might be difficult, but I just grabbed the two src.rpms and
 did an 'rpm --rebuild' followed by an 'rpm -ivh' for each and a vi on
 the X config file (as per the nvidia instructions) and it worked without
 a single hitch. on my LM8.1 K6-2 (400MHz) GeForce2 MX 32MB (£40),
 glxgears is up from 30fps, in its default window, to 875fps (up from 7
 to 126fps full screen). Tuxracer is up from 1 frame every 5-10 seconds
 to what looks like full speed video with no jurking at all. Very smooth
 - I was very impressed. I think my GPU must outpower my CPU ;-)
 
 Install those drivers and I think you'll be very happy too.
 
 Nick.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 2:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; George Jones (IT);
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?
 
 
  Hi,
 
  When you say that it 'runs well' does it mean smooth? I mean, enough
  frames
  per second?
 
  I guess you need to install the NVidia drivers, don't you?
 
  I ask this becuase I have the same Nvidia chip and I may try to
  install and
  configure all the stuff if you say its worth.
 
  You know, I am a bit freaked out by the 3 frames per second on the
  tuxracer
  (on the same machine allowing me to run Collin Mrae full speed at
  1024x768x16k, on windows 98 , and a bit slower but still ok on w2000).
 



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[expert] Samba XP

2001-11-12 Thread Grouwels Daniel
Title: Message






I'm trying to set up 
Samba server as a domain controller.

I also wanted to add 
some shares as netlogon etc...


On the server, no 
problem. I managed to prepare the whole thing, added an account for the win XP 
machine.

The problem is that 
I can't add the pc to become a member of the domain, nor can I see the 
shares.

I always get a box 
to enter a pwd. Root doesn't work and I set the encryption for passwords to 
yes.


Can someone guide 
me.


Thanxs


RE: [expert] Samba XP

2001-11-12 Thread Battista, JohnX
Title: Message



http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/csamba6.html


  -Original Message-From: Grouwels Daniel 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 
  10:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [expert] 
  Samba  XP
  
  
  
  I'm trying to set 
  up Samba server as a domain controller.
  
  I also wanted to 
  add some shares as netlogon etc...
  
  
  On the server, no 
  problem. I managed to prepare the whole thing, added an account for the win XP 
  machine.
  
  The problem is 
  that I can't add the pc to become a member of the domain, nor can I see the 
  shares.
  
  I always get a box 
  to enter a pwd. Root doesn't work and I set the encryption for passwords to 
  yes.
  
  
  Can someone guide 
  me.
  
  
  Thanxs


RE: [expert] Samba XP

2001-11-12 Thread Rony Shapiro
Title: Message



The 
note refers to Samba 2.2.2, which was released last month.

Mandrake 8.1 came with Samba 2.2.1a - you might want to update -the fixes 
for winXP are *very* recent.



  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Battista, JohnXSent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:15 
  PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [expert] 
  Samba  XP
  http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/csamba6.html
  
  
-Original Message-From: Grouwels Daniel 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 12, 
2001 10:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[expert] Samba  XP



I'm trying to 
set up Samba server as a domain controller.

I also wanted to 
add some shares as netlogon etc...


On the server, 
no problem. I managed to prepare the whole thing, added an account for the 
win XP machine.

The problem is 
that I can't add the pc to become a member of the domain, nor can I see the 
shares.

I always get a 
box to enter a pwd. Root doesn't work and I set the encryption for passwords 
to yes.


Can someone 
guide me.


Thanxs


Re: [expert] 8.0 to 8.1 Upgrade

2001-11-12 Thread chuck

On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 09:14, Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote:
 Just a shot in the dark, but try: rpm --rebuilddb
 
 It is actually a good command to run after you do a lot of rpm installs 
 and/or uninstalls.
 
 Ciao,
 Enrico
 

That was the first thing I tried. Sorry that I forgot to mention it. 

After seeing the 'filesystem' thing, I tried to run diskdrake and it
wouldn't run either. It read:

modprobe: Can't locate module floppy
Segmentation fault.

In /var/log/messages, I noticed 'kernel BUG at super.c:274!'  and
'invalid operand: 

It's a pet peeve of mine to just reinstall without finding the cause. I
wonder if a kernel upgrade will do it?

 On Sunday 11 November 2001 18:29, you wrote:
  I did the 'upgrade' from 8.0 to 8.1. Now, any RPM command causes a
  segmentation fault, usually after it says 'D: getting list of mounted
  filesystems'. Wine also used to work, but it also gives me the
  segmentation fault error.
 
  I did a Google search and found nothing.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Chuck
 





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Re: [expert] 8.0 to 8.1 Upgrade

2001-11-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

Ugh.  I never upgrade anymore.  The process is excrutiatingly slow.  It is 
much faster to just install anew (leaving your /home and, perhaps, /usr/local 
alone - on their own partitions).  I never really lose anything doing it this 
way and save a ton of time and pain.

It also gives you the simple, convenient time to repartition your system.  I 
usually find that after using the system for a while, my partitioning scheme 
could use some improvement and tinkering so by reinstalling I am easily able 
to do so then.  Leave /usr/local and naturally, /home, in their own 
partitions so that upon installing (instead of upgrading) the next major 
version you choose) you can do so without losing personal or addon stuff like 
personal docs, games, etc.

That isn't what you were asking but there it is...installing new instead of 
upgrading is the most pain-free, quickest, and least problematic way to go.

praedor

On Monday 12 November 2001 12:14, you wrote:
 On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 09:14, Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote:
  Just a shot in the dark, but try: rpm --rebuilddb
 
  It is actually a good command to run after you do a lot of rpm installs
  and/or uninstalls.
 
  Ciao,
  Enrico

 That was the first thing I tried. Sorry that I forgot to mention it.

 After seeing the 'filesystem' thing, I tried to run diskdrake and it
 wouldn't run either. It read:

 modprobe: Can't locate module floppy
 Segmentation fault.

 In /var/log/messages, I noticed 'kernel BUG at super.c:274!'  and
 'invalid operand: 

 It's a pet peeve of mine to just reinstall without finding the cause. I
 wonder if a kernel upgrade will do it?

  On Sunday 11 November 2001 18:29, you wrote:
   I did the 'upgrade' from 8.0 to 8.1. Now, any RPM command causes a
   segmentation fault, usually after it says 'D: getting list of mounted
   filesystems'. Wine also used to work, but it also gives me the
   segmentation fault error.
  
   I did a Google search and found nothing.
  
   Thanks in advance,
  
   Chuck



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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Patricia Ballad

Wow - I'm impressed.  You flamed an entire list (in duplicate, might I add!) because 
you didn't get the answer you wanted from a free resource of volunteers.  If you want 
answers that automagically appear at your command, might I suggest you contact the 
sales department of any of the companies out there who provide professional linux 
technical support?  I fail to see what else you could possibly hope to accomplish 
(aside from asuaging your own ego) by this post.

Have a nice, fire-retardent day :)

Tricia

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:50:59 PM Monday, November 12, 2001 
I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive (Dell
Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is just
to tough a topic for the expert community I will try the newbie forum.





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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Monday 12 November 2001 20:27, you wrote:
 Wow - I'm impressed.  You flamed an entire list (in duplicate, might I
 add!) because you didn't get the answer you wanted from a free resource of
 volunteers.  If you want answers that automagically appear at your command,
 might I suggest you contact the sales department of any of the companies
 out there who provide professional linux technical support?  I fail to see
 what else you could possibly hope to accomplish (aside from asuaging your
 own ego) by this post.

 Have a nice, fire-retardent day :)

 Tricia


You needn't have stooped that low, utter SILENCE would have been enough.

thanks anyway. It's what I wanted to write at first :)

Harm



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Re: [expert] 8.0 to 8.1 Upgrade

2001-11-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Monday 12 November 2001 20:17, you wrote:
 Ugh.  I never upgrade anymore.  The process is excrutiatingly slow.  It is
 much faster to just install anew (leaving your /home and, perhaps,
 /usr/local alone - on their own partitions).  I never really lose anything
 doing it this way and save a ton of time and pain.

 It also gives you the simple, convenient time to repartition your system. 
 I usually find that after using the system for a while, my partitioning
 scheme could use some improvement and tinkering so by reinstalling I am
 easily able to do so then.  Leave /usr/local and naturally, /home, in their
 own partitions so that upon installing (instead of upgrading) the next
 major version you choose) you can do so without losing personal or addon
 stuff like personal docs, games, etc.

 That isn't what you were asking but there it is...installing new instead of
 upgrading is the most pain-free, quickest, and least problematic way to go.

 praedor


I can only add that 'upgrade' is a very quick way to repair an existing 
installation which has been botched up badly. After checking the packages (of 
which none require upgrading of course) you can go through the rest of the 
routine :)
It's not the way it should be, but it's faster than repairing all sorts of 
things You've never heard about. Especially if the box just has to work real 
pronto!

Harm




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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Patricia Ballad

Yes, I realize responding at all was probably a bit juvenile.  However, there is logic 
behind it.  I haven't been on this list very long, and it seems like we get all too 
many of this type of post - basically You guys didn't solve my problem in the time 
frame I expected, therefore I feel the need to tell you how stupid you all are!  
What's the point?  I was hoping to plant in poster's minds that (as this is a fairly 
high-traffic list), posts of that type really aren't necessary.  Perhaps something to 
this effect could be added to the list's charter?  Don't know if it would help, 
butsometimes SILENCE is beautiful, other times it can be interpreted as acceptance 
of behavior.  

Having said that, I now return this list to its regularly scheduled program of USEFUL 
POSTS!  

Tricia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1:38:59 PM Monday, November 12, 2001 
On Monday 12 November 2001 20:27, you wrote:
 Wow - I'm impressed.  You flamed an entire list (in duplicate, might I
 add!) because you didn't get the answer you wanted from a free resource of
 volunteers.  If you want answers that automagically appear at your command,
 might I suggest you contact the sales department of any of the companies
 out there who provide professional linux technical support?  I fail to see
 what else you could possibly hope to accomplish (aside from asuaging your
 own ego) by this post.

 Have a nice, fire-retardent day :)

 Tricia


You needn't have stooped that low, utter SILENCE would have been enough.

thanks anyway. It's what I wanted to write at first :)

Harm





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Re: [expert] NFS LM8.1 server, AIX client problems

2001-11-12 Thread Daniel Woods

 Laurent CREPET wrote:
  Got some problems at work with an NFS server running on Linux (was kernel
  2.2.18), and AIX NFS clients (4.2, 4.3.1 and 4.3.3).
  
  On AIX clients, we run as root:
  
  nfso -o nfs_use_reserved_ports=1
  
  Then, we were able to mount the filesystems from our Linux box...
  I remember that we call our IBM support to have this information.
  
  Hope it helps...
  
  Laurent.
 
 Hey Dan, let us know if this works. I, for one, am very curious about
 your AIX situation. Working around the country, mainly on Solaris and
 AIX, I have had the occassion to mount directories from servers, such as
 Netware, UNIX, and NT, but have not seen much Linux on the professional
 scene as of yet

I will let you know, and I will give soft-mount a try.
This whole situation has gotten annoying :(

Thanks... Dan.





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Re: [expert] tcpwrappers

2001-11-12 Thread Daniel Woods

 now that in.telnetd is not used in later kernels

I haven't heard about that !

 the format of hosts.allow  
 telnetd: xx.xx.xx.xx
 
 where xx.xx.xx.xx is an inet address
 
 is this the correct format  ???

I would still use
in.telnetd :   10.10.10.55 192.168.10. : allow
in.telnetd :   136.159. : allow

Yes, you can have multiple lines.
However I no longer use Telnet, I use OpenSSH and SFTP (secure ftp).
That would be my recommendation for you.

Thanks... Dan.





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[expert] drive not ready for command isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=3.40, iso_blknum=151339

2001-11-12 Thread Aaron Peterson

During install of LM 8.1 or RH7.2, not DemoLinux 3:::

Unfortuantely,
after the initial setup/ welcome screen using the boot disk and bootable
CD-ROM, the setup said that it couldn't find an installation CD in the
CD-ROM.  The error message is as follows:
I can't access a Mandrake-Linux Installation disk in your CDROM Drive.
By looking in the setup log I also saw some of these messages:
4ide0: Drive 1 didn't accept speed setting, Oh well
4hdb: Status timed-out
4hdb: DMA Disabled
4hdb: drive not ready for command
4isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=3.40, iso_blknum=151339
and other stuff like this

If you guys don't know of any solutions off the top of your heads then I
guess I'll see if we can get it up and runing at the Installfest.  Thanks.

/
He has a DFI motherboard with Award BIOS.  bios version is current.

CD rom is primary slave,  HD is primary master

This problem also occurs when using RedHat 7.2 and Mandrake 8.1   We tried
two copies of the installmedia, so the disk wasn't bad.

Demo Linux boots just fine off of the CD-Rom.

/

I built the
computer myself and currently I have Win 98 and Win 2K on two seperate
primary partitions.  Then I used PartitionMagic 5.0 to create a Linux
partition.  Anyway, the CD-ROM is bootable, but since I was having trouble
with just booting off the CD-ROM I tried it again with a bootdisk.  I think
that I'm using the cdrom.img file if that is what you mean by the image file
- the actual CD is from MandrakeSoft.  Also, windows has no trouble booting
from the CD-ROM.






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[expert] urpmi doesn't run from script

2001-11-12 Thread bascule

i have a little script that i run every now and then as follows:

#!/bin/bash
#this runs rsync to update the local copy of cooker
rsync -avL --delete --delete-after 
fr2.rpmfind.net::linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/ /mandrake/cooker/  
/dev/null 2 /dev/null
#this updates urpmi database
urpmi.update localcooker  /dev/null 2 /dev/null

the problem is that the last line works fine if pasted into a console, and 
the first line clearly works since i can see both the name of the script and 
rsync listed in ksysguard, however, urpmi never runs when running the script, 
i'm probably going to kick myself when i find out what i'm missing but i just 
can't work out what's wrong since the same urpmi line does work when run 
manually

help gratefully received :-)

bascule

p.s. anyone wishing to confirm whether i need both --delete options to only 
delete old files 'after' syncing them-please feel free, the man pages for 
rsync weren't clear on this point



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Re: [expert] radio program for linux

2001-11-12 Thread Onur Kucuk


HH I was wondering what radio program to listen to music is available for linux..
HH Hope someone can point me in the right direction.

HH Harold

Many come with MDK 8.1 , radiofm , etc. but I personally like
gnomeradio

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[expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread emammendes

Hello
Unfortunately I lost the discussion about ps2 mice with LM 8.1.  I finally
decided to upgrade (not really - new installation is the proper term -
upgrade is so slow that I gave in) one of my LM 8.0.  I noticed that LM 8.1
doesn't like ps2 mice at all (I have no such problems with Lm 8.0).

Problems:
a) if I don't move the mouse during the very first install step LM 8.1 won't
recognize.  I had to start install from scratch in order to get the mouse
working.
b) First boot - no mouse despite LM 8.1 has recognized it during install.
c) Second boot - mouse is working.  However once I left an user session the
mouse was gone again.

Does anyone know of a fix for that annoying behavior?

Many thanks

Eduardo





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[expert] Samba XP

2001-11-12 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try using smbpasswd -a username to add the user to the smb users.

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RE: [expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread Craig Williamson (ENZ)
Title: RE: [expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1





Hi There,


 I've had a similar problem. The installation of 8.1 went through smoothly, detected the mouse etc. Upon first boot up the mouse dies under the Linux console (X works fine). The mouse 'cursor' stays at the top of the screen and won't move from there, and moving it wreaks havoc on the prompt. To fix this problem, run the mouse configuration program (mouseconfig I think) and it should get your mouse working again. Although it seems like it is only a temporary fix.

 By the way, what is the manufacturer of your mouse. I've got an A4TECH PS/2 wheel mouse, if this is similar to yours it might help. Good Luck.

Craig


-Original Message-
From: emammendes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1



Hello
Unfortunately I lost the discussion about ps2 mice with LM 8.1. I finally
decided to upgrade (not really - new installation is the proper term -
upgrade is so slow that I gave in) one of my LM 8.0. I noticed that LM 8.1
doesn't like ps2 mice at all (I have no such problems with Lm 8.0).


Problems:
a) if I don't move the mouse during the very first install step LM 8.1 won't
recognize. I had to start install from scratch in order to get the mouse
working.
b) First boot - no mouse despite LM 8.1 has recognized it during install.
c) Second boot - mouse is working. However once I left an user session the
mouse was gone again.


Does anyone know of a fix for that annoying behavior?


Many thanks


Eduardo







RE: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


Heh, The point wasn't taken though.

It's sorta silly to try to put the blame on Linux for regressing. 

Yeah he can run command line Linux in 64 megs (even 32 after
installation). If he really wants to do this, he should have been
looking for one of the super light distros, instead of LM8.1.


BTW:  I had to look up trenchant. Good word.  :)

-JMS


|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Craig Woods
|Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:09 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain 
|programme/data resides?
|
|
|Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
| 
| 64MB?
| 
| Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)
| 
| |
| |You say all as if 64M is a lot of RAM. Yes, I must tell 
|you that X 
| |will eat that much RAM for breakfast but so will most other current 
| |OS's running some kind of GUI crap
| |
| 
|Jose, such trenchent wit...
|
|I love it, and, yes, in today's world of graphic intensive 
|games and apps, you need at least that amount on the video card alone.
|
|-- 
|J. Craig Woods
|UNIX/NT SA
|
|-Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
|




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RE: [expert] Old Riva Drivers

2001-11-12 Thread Quintin Holmberg

www.nvidia.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leonardo T. de
Carvalho
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Old Riva Drivers




Hi all.

I'm looking for the NVidia drievrs version 1.0, which have
support for the Riva128 chipset .
On the net, nothing yet...
If anyone have a backup or link, plz send me!

Thanx in advance
Leonardo






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Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain programme/data resides?

2001-11-12 Thread Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez

When swapping starts is because not all programs fit on main memory (RAM) so 
they are going and comming back from seconday memory (disk) all the time, as 
their turn to get executed comes and goes.

Process memory mapping WILL change WHILE you are looking at it, a bit like 
trying to measure the position and speed of the electron.

I guess that the kernel could say 'position 1h of the virtual memory is 
now mapped into RAM at x or disk at block y, but that may change so 
even while you are looking at it. 

For example, when you do the system call to ask the kernel an kernel 
interruption occurs and changes memory mapping of the process you are looking 
at, it goes to RAM, suddenly while you are looking at that info another 
interruption puts it back on disk,
=== you are looking at a process sleeping on disk while you think its on RAM 
cause the monitor program last saw it there whats the point? 

 (unless, of course, the monitor gets updated everytime a change is done... 
but updating may produce more changes, another interrupt may occur... and 
back again in the same problem...)

The thing is, if you have 64MB and you are running 128 MB in apps 
simultaneously (all with the same priority) maths say they should be 50% time 
on disk and 50% on RAM.

Correct me if I said something wrong.

Jose

El Lunes 12 Noviembre 2001 13:11, Seak, Teng-Fong escribió:
   Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
 Eh, I was being facetious, hence the smiley.

  Sure I know you're facetious, but I'm afraid newbies would take it
 too seriously and thus acquired wrong knowledge, so I gave more
 explanations.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Linux Gaming Edition

2001-11-12 Thread Tom Badran

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   Has anyone had a chance to get the gaming edition.  November 9 has
 passed and I haven't heard anything on the net about its official release.
 Has anyone seen it running, or has anyone used the WineX extensions for the
 games.  I've heard rumours circulating around the web that WIneX
 outperforms DirectX with the same game/program.  Is this true and is there
 any proof to back this up.  And if any of you have tried it what are your
 experiences. Let me know.  Thanks.

I have tried winex, and for the games that work it really out performs 
windows (OpenGL ones anyway, i havent tried directx games). I cant do any 
real comparisons as i dont have access to any windows boxen any more. 
Counterstrike rocks under linux by the way

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Re: [expert] Using SMB shared printer from LM 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread John Haywood

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:57, you wrote:
 I am having trouble using a printer connected to my w2k machine from my
 lm 8.1 machine. I used the printerdrake and selected SAMBA printer and
 all the other screens. It says it has configured the printer right but
 when I try to print a test page nothing happens

 I can see the printer using smbclient program as shared from my W2K box.

 Am I missing something?

 Thanks,
 -nak

What happens if you access the printer with another tool - KUPS for example? 
This has been a successful fix for people here before.
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Re: [expert] Kmail/konqueror/knode not integrating

2001-11-12 Thread John Haywood

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:40, you wrote:

 Check the personalisation settings in kcontrol centre, and make sure kmail
 is the preffered client.

Tom, bin there, tryed that! It is set, and still no go. The funny thing is, 
it switches to kmail, but doesn't open a new mail message

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Re: [expert] urpmi doesn't run from script

2001-11-12 Thread Peter Watson

On Monday 12 November 2001 20:59 pm, bascule wrote:
 i have a little script that i run every now and then as follows:

 #!/bin/bash
 #this runs rsync to update the local copy of cooker
 rsync -avL --delete --delete-after
 fr2.rpmfind.net::linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/
 /mandrake/cooker/  /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 #this updates urpmi database
 urpmi.update localcooker  /dev/null 2 /dev/null

 the problem is that the last line works fine if pasted into a
 console, and the first line clearly works since i can see both the
 name of the script and rsync listed in ksysguard, however, urpmi
 never runs when running the script, i'm probably going to kick
 myself when i find out what i'm missing but i just can't work out
 what's wrong since the same urpmi line does work when run manually

 help gratefully received :-)

 bascule

 p.s. anyone wishing to confirm whether i need both --delete options
 to only delete old files 'after' syncing them-please feel free, the
 man pages for rsync weren't clear on this point

-
Have you tried exec?, I haven't used it with urpmi but sometimes it 
seems to make commands in a script work

Regards

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Re: [expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread emammendes
Title: RE: [expert] Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1



Hi ya

I have got a Compaq mouse (I don't know the exact 
brand but I am almost sure that Compaq went for the cheapest 
mouse).

In my case the mouse only "disappears" when I log 
out and it won'twork again ...

I definitely need a fix that solves that once and 
all.

Many thanks

Eduardo





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig Williamson (ENZ) 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [expert] Mouse (ps2) 
  problems with 8.1
  
  Hi There, 
   I've had a similar 
  problem. The installation of 8.1 went through smoothly, detected the 
  mouse etc. Upon first boot up the mouse dies under the Linux console (X 
  works fine). The mouse 'cursor' stays at the top of the screen and won't 
  move from there, and moving it wreaks havoc on the prompt. To fix this 
  problem, run the mouse configuration program (mouseconfig I think) and it 
  should get your mouse working again. Although it seems like it is only a 
  temporary fix.
   By the way, what is 
  the manufacturer of your mouse. I've got an A4TECH PS/2 wheel mouse, if 
  this is similar to yours it might help. Good Luck.
  Craig 
  -Original Message- From: 
  emammendes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] 
  Mouse (ps2) problems with 8.1 
  Hello Unfortunately I lost the 
  discussion about ps2 mice with LM 8.1. I finally decided to upgrade (not really - new installation is the proper term 
  - upgrade is so slow that I gave in) one of my LM 
  8.0. I noticed that LM 8.1 doesn't like ps2 mice 
  at all (I have no such problems with Lm 8.0). 
  Problems: a) if I don't move the mouse 
  during the very first install step LM 8.1 won't recognize. I had to start install from scratch in order to get 
  the mouse working. b) First 
  boot - no mouse despite LM 8.1 has recognized it during install. 
  c) Second boot - mouse is working. However once I left 
  an user session the mouse was gone again. 
  Does anyone know of a fix for that annoying behavior? 
  
  Many thanks 
  Eduardo 


Re: [expert] Kmail/konqueror/knode not integrating

2001-11-12 Thread Tarragon Allen

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:33, John Haywood wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:40, you wrote:
  Check the personalisation settings in kcontrol centre, and make sure
  kmail is the preffered client.

 Tom, bin there, tryed that! It is set, and still no go. The funny thing is,
 it switches to kmail, but doesn't open a new mail message

 stumped

Try clearing the setting.  It will default to kmail, and should pass the 
correct parameters.

t

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Re: [expert] Best Video cards for Linux?

2001-11-12 Thread Gniazdowski

Dnia pon 12. listopad 2001 18:33, napisa?e?:
 Nick:
 Thanks for explaining to me why there has been all of the traffic about
 nvidia drivers on both this list and the newbie list. Gotta check out
 some of the local stores...

Well i dont now if i have good understand, butt someone has tell You to buy 
NVidia?

No!

As You now NVidia is giving binary drivers. It means that only nvidia can 
track and remove bugs, make new versions of that drivers.

It is realy bad! Look - for example rivafb. If You use that framebuffer 
console and nvidia drivers then after every ctrl-alt-Fx your desktop looks 
like sh***, if You be able to see it ;)

And - there is NO framebuffer support in kernel for geforces XXX. U will must 
use text-console.

Look on radeon - radeonfb - it is and works. DRI/DRM - works, and is 
developeded, bugtracked by people from all over the world.

Let me show You some MPlayer manual fragments! :

I
2.2.1.2.3. nVidia cards
nVidia isn't a very good choice under Linux.. You'll have to use the binary 
nVidia driver, available at nVidia's website. The standard X driver doesn't 
support XVideo for these cards, due to nVidia's closed 
sources/specifications.

II
Q:
 OpenGL (-vo gl) output doesn't work (hangup/black window/X11 errors/...). 
A:
 Your opengl driver doesn't support dynamic texture changes (glTexSubImage) 
It's known not to work with nVidia's binary shit. It's known to work with 
Utah-GLX/DRI and Matrox G400 card. Also with DRI and Radeon card. It won't 
work with DRI others than these. it will not work with 3DFX cards because the 
256x256 texture size limit.

III
Q:
 I have an nVidia XYZ card, and when I click on the GUI's diplay window to 
toggle displaying the GUI panel, a black square appears where I clicked. I 
have the newest driver. 
A:
 Yes, nvidia corrected a previous bug (above), and implemented a new one. 
Let's congratule them.

etc. etc. ;)))

So, better buy Radeon. NVidia works butt you just cant now how long and how 
good. That is my opinion.


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Re: [expert] libpng not working in Mozilla/Galeon

2001-11-12 Thread John Haywood

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:50, you wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 Hoping someone can shed some light on this problem. I recently upgraded
 (from Cooker) to Mozilla 0.9.5, and the latest Galeon as well. Along the
 way, I als ohad to upgrade libpng from version 2 to 3.

 Everything seemed to go well, I was able to meet all dependencies with a
 minimum of hassle, and libpng upgraded just fine.

 BUT ... now, neither Mozilla not Galeon are able to renger .png images!
 If I look in /usr/lib/, I can see both libpng2 and libpng3:
   libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
   libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
   libpng.so.3 - libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
   libpng.so.3.1.2.0*

 I assume this is correct, because there are still many apps on my
 mostly-stock 8.1 system that require libpng2.

 I renamed the old libpng2 libraries, and made links with the same name
 to libpng3, but that did not seem to work. In fact, Galeon would not
 even launch! So, I named the libpng2 libraries back. At this point, I am
 at a loss, not knowing enough about how shared libraries work, and
 especially using different library versions.

 Any help?

 Dave

Welcome to the world of Cooker! What you actually have to do in the case of 
the libpng2 - libpng3 shift (and many other major library upgrades, too), is 
to rebuild *all* of the libpng2-dependent apps against the new libraries.

Often, this can be accomplished by simply downloading the src.rpm and issuing 
an rpm -bb command, but it can get a lot trickier

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Re: [expert] SB Live Synth?

2001-11-12 Thread Timothy R. Butler

Hi Jose,
 It works great.

 Follow my enclosed directions...


  Thanks, Jose, I'm now at the point where KControl lists MIDI sequencers. I 
wonder why Mandrake mis-installed when I installed 8.1? So far, in LM I have 
things working that didn't work in SuSE, and things *not* working that worked 
in SuSE. ;-)
  Anyway, so I have the synth ready to go it looks like, and I run sfxload 
and tried to load the sound font that is in /etc/midi . However, then if I 
try to run playmidi it gives me this error:

  % /suse/home/uninet/www/warpspeed.mid
  Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi Iwai
  This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
  For details please see the file COPYING.
  playmidi: No playback device found.

  KMid gets similar results, only on the first try it doesn't give any kind 
of error, just no sound. If I try to play the song a second time, then KMid 
complains about some other app using the sequencer.


  Here is what lsmod has to say about sound:


snd-synth-emu10k1   4432   0  (autoclean)
snd-synth-emux 26784   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emu10k1]
snd-seq-midi-emul   4944   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
snd-seq-virmidi 8304   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
snd-seq-midi3552   0  (autoclean)
snd-seq-oss28944   0
snd-seq-midi-event  3216   0  [snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq41856   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi 
snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss18624   1
snd-pcm-plugin 15792   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-mixer-oss   4800   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-card-emu10k12368   1
snd-emu10k122320   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-card-emu10k1] 
snd-pcm31616   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-emu10k1]
snd-timer   8528   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-rawmidi10048   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1]
snd-emux-mem1776   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-emu10k1]
snd-ac97-codec 25056   0  [snd-emu10k1]
snd-mixer  24544   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1 snd-ac97-codec]
snd-seq-device  3984   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-synth-emux 
snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-card-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
snd35248   1  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi 
snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss 
snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-emu10k1 snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-rawmidi snd-emux-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-seq-device]
soundcore   4208   9  [snd]
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   -Tim

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Re: [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)

2001-11-12 Thread mike

Often times the permissions on /dev/cdrom are irrelevant.  You will notice 
that /dev/cdrom is a link (on my box it is linked to /dev/hdd), you must also 
repair the permissions on this (just this weekend I had this problem, for 
some reason an obscure user owned /dev/hdd, after giving it back to root and 
fixing the permissions, all was well).

mg


On Monday 12 November 2001 02:50, Darren King wrote:
 I changed the permissions but that had no effect.  I fixed it by setting
 the security level to medium, when it was at high.  Anyone know of any
 problems with having my system using the medium security setting?

 Darren

 On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:14, Arnab_Ganguly wrote:
  They generally are able to without any problem on my machine running MDK
  8,0. Please check the permissions for /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdd or whatever
  your cdrom is referred to.
 
  Arnab
 
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   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  [expert] user permission for cd-rom (8.0)
  
   File: message.footer.txt
   How do I get users to be able to read cd-roms?  I put the users I want
   to read the cd in the cdrom group and made cdrom the group owner of
   hdc.  Still I get permission denied when I try to cd to /mnt/cdrom.
   Shouldn't users be able to read cdroms by default?
  
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Re: [expert] Kmail/konqueror/knode not integrating

2001-11-12 Thread Tom Badran

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On Monday 12 Nov 2001 11:33 pm, you wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:40, you wrote:
  Check the personalisation settings in kcontrol centre, and make sure
  kmail is the preffered client.

 Tom, bin there, tryed that! It is set, and still no go. The funny thing is,
 it switches to kmail, but doesn't open a new mail message

Cant help then im afraid, it works for me. When i get issues like this, i 
tend just to delete everything i can from ~/.kde/ and only leave important 
files like kmailrc, calender file etc. Its a last resort and a dirty way of 
doing it, but it has fixed strange problems fro me before.

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Re: [expert] SB Live Synth?

2001-11-12 Thread Tom Badran

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On Monday 12 Nov 2001 11:58 pm, you wrote:
 Hi Jose,

  It works great.
 
  Follow my enclosed directions...

   Thanks, Jose, I'm now at the point where KControl lists MIDI sequencers.
 I wonder why Mandrake mis-installed when I installed 8.1? So far, in LM I
 have things working that didn't work in SuSE, and things *not* working that
 worked in SuSE. ;-)
   Anyway, so I have the synth ready to go it looks like, and I run sfxload
 and tried to load the sound font that is in /etc/midi . However, then if I
 try to run playmidi it gives me this error:

   % /suse/home/uninet/www/warpspeed.mid
   Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi
 Iwai This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
   For details please see the file COPYING.
   playmidi: No playback device found.

   KMid gets similar results, only on the first try it doesn't give any kind
 of error, just no sound. If I try to play the song a second time, then KMid
 complains about some other app using the sequencer.

I have been following this also, and i too am having exactly the same 
problem. I have always used timidity in the past, but native midi support 
will make nethack kick arse. I have devfs switched off, so is it possibly a 
matter of creating the correct device entries (although /dev/sequencer is 
there already) and if so how?

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[expert] Mouse Wheel?

2001-11-12 Thread Timothy R.Butler

Hi again,
  I'm sorry to keep asking questions, but I'm just trying to get everything 
working. :-\ I'm happy to see that XFDrake setup my mouse wheel, but there is 
something curiously different about the way my wheel works in LM than it did 
in SuSE. 
  In SuSE, if I would take my pointer and hover over a list, it would scroll 
what ever box that would be. For instance in KMail I could scroll (using the 
wheel), not only the message box, but also the message list box. 

  Is there anyway to similarly configure this in Mandrake? I've been 
examining my SuSE config files to figure out how they did this, but I haven't 
found anything yet...

  Thanks,
   Tim

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RE: [expert] SB Live Synth?

2001-11-12 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

Several things are happening...

|-Original Message-
|From: Timothy R. Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
|Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:58 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [expert] SB Live Synth?
|
|
|Hi Jose,
| It works great.
|
| Follow my enclosed directions...
|
|
|  Thanks, Jose, I'm now at the point where KControl lists MIDI 
|sequencers. I 
|wonder why Mandrake mis-installed when I installed 8.1? So 
|far, in LM I have 
|things working that didn't work in SuSE, and things *not* 
|working that worked 
|in SuSE. ;-)
|  Anyway, so I have the synth ready to go it looks like, and I 
|run sfxload 
|and tried to load the sound font that is in /etc/midi . 

NOPE!

That's not a good soundfont. I get no sound output when I attempt to use
this font. It is probably formatted for the software synth player and
not for the SBLive. Download a collection font from the
http://thesoundsite.ismi.net/ link.


|However, then if I 
|try to run playmidi it gives me this error:
|
|  % /suse/home/uninet/www/warpspeed.mid
|  Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 
|by Takashi Iwai
|  This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
|  For details please see the file COPYING.
|  playmidi: No playback device found.
|

Playmidi doesn't know how to use the new SBLive Sequencer device, so
this is normal, I get the same thing...

|  KMid gets similar results, only on the first try it doesn't 
|give any kind 
|of error, just no sound. 

It might or might not be working at this point. Did you turn the volume
all the way up in AUX mix for the synth and all other outputs? (Of
course you'll need a real sound font...)

Try starting Kmid from a terminal so you can see it's error messages.
Also try double clicking on the .MID file within Konqueror.

You should initially try using a smaller GM/GS sound font until you get
everything working. Make sure you are using a complete collection
sound font as well. Some files only have a single instrument, etc. 

|If I try to play the song a second 
|time, then KMid 
|complains about some other app using the sequencer.
|
|

It sounds like the original Kmid process never terminated...

|  Here is what lsmod has to say about sound:
|
|
|snd-synth-emu10k1   4432   0  (autoclean)
|snd-synth-emux 26784   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emu10k1]
|snd-seq-midi-emul   4944   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
|snd-seq-virmidi 8304   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
|snd-seq-midi3552   0  (autoclean)
|snd-seq-oss28944   0
|snd-seq-midi-event  3216   0  [snd-seq-virmidi 
|snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
|snd-seq41856   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi 
|snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
|snd-pcm-oss18624   1
|snd-pcm-plugin 15792   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
|snd-mixer-oss   4800   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
|snd-card-emu10k12368   1
|snd-emu10k122320   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-card-emu10k1] 
|snd-pcm31616   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin 
|snd-emu10k1]
|snd-timer   8528   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
|snd-rawmidi10048   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1]
|snd-emux-mem1776   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-emu10k1]
|snd-ac97-codec 25056   0  [snd-emu10k1]
|snd-mixer  24544   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1 
|snd-ac97-codec]
|snd-seq-device  3984   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-synth-emux 
|snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-card-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
|snd35248   1  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi 
|snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss 
|snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-emu10k1 snd-emu10k1 
|snd-pcm snd-timer 
|snd-rawmidi snd-emux-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-seq-device]
|soundcore   4208   9  [snd]
|--
|
|
|  Thanks for your help!
|
|   -Tim
|
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Re: [expert] Kmail/konqueror/knode not integrating

2001-11-12 Thread John Haywood

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:47, you wrote:
 Try clearing the setting.  It will default to kmail, and should pass the
 correct parameters.

That worked! Ta for that!!
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Re: [expert] libpng not working in Mozilla/Galeon

2001-11-12 Thread William Kenworthy

Doing a forced rpm install of cooker nautilus* got some of my icons
back, but there are still problems.  What application (or module) is
actually responsible for drawing png's on the desktop so I can target
that?

BillK

On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 07:51, John Haywood wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:50, you wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  Hoping someone can shed some light on this problem. I recently upgraded
  (from Cooker) to Mozilla 0.9.5, and the latest Galeon as well. Along the
  way, I als ohad to upgrade libpng from version 2 to 3.
 
  Everything seemed to go well, I was able to meet all dependencies with a
  minimum of hassle, and libpng upgraded just fine.
 
  BUT ... now, neither Mozilla not Galeon are able to renger .png images!
  If I look in /usr/lib/, I can see both libpng2 and libpng3:
  libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
  libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
  libpng.so.3 - libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
  libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
 
  I assume this is correct, because there are still many apps on my
  mostly-stock 8.1 system that require libpng2.
 
  I renamed the old libpng2 libraries, and made links with the same name
  to libpng3, but that did not seem to work. In fact, Galeon would not
  even launch! So, I named the libpng2 libraries back. At this point, I am
  at a loss, not knowing enough about how shared libraries work, and
  especially using different library versions.
 
  Any help?
 
  Dave
 
 Welcome to the world of Cooker! What you actually have to do in the case of 
 the libpng2 - libpng3 shift (and many other major library upgrades, too), is 
 to rebuild *all* of the libpng2-dependent apps against the new libraries.
 
 Often, this can be accomplished by simply downloading the src.rpm and issuing 
 an rpm -bb command, but it can get a lot trickier
 
 hth
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[expert] webcam under 8.1

2001-11-12 Thread Greg Sarsons

I'm having some trouble trying to get a webcam working.  It is a
Logitech QuickCam Pro 3000 which is supposed to be supported by the
Phillips USB webcam drivers.

What I've tried is to load videodev 

modprobe -v videodev

and then load pwc

modprobe -v size=sif fps=15

I don't get any errors on these.

When I try to load any software it can't find the device.  ie there is
no /dev/video

So I create a one with
mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0

/proc/devices shows a character device at 81 .. video_capture

tried to just make a /dev/video as well.  Yet I still get the same error

/dev/video: No such device when I use gqcam

just to make sure I've check to make sure pwd and videodev are loaded
using modprobe ... both are loaded.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [expert] SB Live Synth?

2001-11-12 Thread Timothy R.Butler

Hi Jose,
 NOPE!

 That's not a good soundfont. I get no sound output when I attempt to use
 this font. It is probably formatted for the software synth player and

  Ohhh! Thanks Jose! I grabbed my 8 meg GM sound font that I had used 
previously (that came with the card), and everything works fine! 
  Now if only 8.2 would just include a working sound font, and properly setup 
the soundcard (including doing a post-install sfxload soundfont... in the 
modules.conf), it would be perfect. ;-)

  Thanks so much Jose, I'm really happy to have MIDI working again. :-D

  -Tim


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Re: [expert] Mandrake Linux Gaming Edition

2001-11-12 Thread Praedor

Go to the transgaming website and register (pay $5.00) and vote for a game to 
support and also download the WineX rpm.  I voted for Halo, even though it 
isn't out yet (soon) and wont be available for PCs until late next year (it 
is initially intended for the Xcrotch windoze thingy.

Anyway, I suspect that it is going to be the major game next year unless 
someone has an unsuspected rabbit up their sleeve.

Anyway, I downloaded winex and installed it and couldn't get it to work.  
Codeweavers wine is, by FAR the easiest and cleanest wine installation 
available.  The winex system installs a .transgaming directory in your home 
directory and gives you an apparently broken config file to go with it.  It 
creates a c_win directory under the .transgaming directory which is set to be 
the windows directory for winex.  It contains some winex dlls.

It doesn't appear to work as installed.  All I get is a message that 
C:\windows couldn't be opened.  Hah!  It is the .transgaming/windows 
directory created by winex with ownership and perms correct for the home 
directory/user yet it isn't accessible to winex (?!)

I tried editing it a bit but nothing worked.  I am going to try one more time 
and give it the CORRECT config file that codeweaver produces.  Hopefully that 
will fix its brokenness.  

On Monday 12 November 2001 03:59 pm, you wrote:
  Has anyone had a chance to get the gaming edition.  November 9 has
  passed and I haven't heard anything on the net about its official
  release. Has anyone seen it running, or has anyone used the WineX
  extensions for the games.  I've heard rumours circulating around the web
  that WIneX outperforms DirectX with the same game/program.  Is this true
  and is there any proof to back this up.  And if any of you have tried it
  what are your experiences. Let me know.  Thanks.

 I have tried winex, and for the games that work it really out performs
 windows (OpenGL ones anyway, i havent tried directx games). I cant do any
 real comparisons as i dont have access to any windows boxen any more.
 Counterstrike rocks under linux by the way



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Re: [expert] DOSEMU and other DOS emulators...do they play demos???

2001-11-12 Thread Gerard Perreault

All I can say is that I have been using VMware Express with excellent 
results, but I have not tried demos. Since VMware is a virtual machine it 
might do what you want. You can download a 30 day trial for free. The Express 
I think is 40$, worth every cents for me, maybe not for everyone.

Thanks.
Gerard Perreault
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On Friday 09 November 2001 11:41, jose orlando t. ribeiro wrote:
 Hi!

 Does anybody know if (and, if := yes, how) can I play demos under DOSEMU
 or any other DOS emulators? Some older demos required a clean boot (some
 even needed a boot without himem.sys) without any memory managers like
 emm386 or qemm386.

 TIA

 orlando

 ps: for all the poor souls that don't know what a demo is, look at

 http://www.oldskool.org/demos/explained/

 IMHO a demo is the finest in the art of coding... Look for Final Reality
 II and remember that all what you'll watch is being done real-time
 and that around '93 the average joe machine was a 386, 40MHz...


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Re: [expert] How is Linux doing on the desktop?

2001-11-12 Thread Gerard Perreault

I use to have dual boot. Since I installed VMware, it's been bye-bye dual 
boot. I still boot some Windows sessions, but under VMware they are 
supervised by my running Linux. The only thing I have not tried seriously 
under VMware are certain games, specially those that provide their own video 
drivers (instead of using directx for example). Using Star Office, I have 
gradually moved away from MS-Office. All new documents I create as SO 
documents. Old MO documents get converted as I revise them. I can not say 
that I will be entirely rid of MS, but with VMware, it doesn't mess up my 
system anymore and I have real file system security.

Thanks.
Gerard Perreault
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On Wednesday 07 November 2001 22:55, ltiu wrote:
 Informal survey.

 How many people in this email list are actually using Linux exclusively
 for their desktop computing needs?

 When I say exclusively, I mean you don't just play with Linux and then
 reboot to another OS to do real work, but actually do everything with
 Linux.

 ltiu


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RE: [expert] 8.0 to 8.1 Upgrade

2001-11-12 Thread chuck

On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 19:13, Quintin Holmberg wrote:
 chuck,
 did the kernel portion of the upgrade complete correctly.  i have seen the
 module kind of error you mention before after a rpm kernel upgrade.  what i
 found was that the modules did not get put into the new kernel named
 directory thus causing all modules to fail to load on startup.
 
 you can find out by looking in /etc/conf/modules/kernel version number and
 see if there are any modules there.
 
 if this is the problem, my solution was to rerun the kernel rpm.  as rpm is
 not working for you, this is obviously not an option currently.  try
 reverting back to the previous kernel first so the old modules will be
 loaded.
 
 --

Well, many of the modules for the old kernel wouldn't load, but the RPM
of the new kernel worked and RPM works when booting the new kernel.
Nothing bad in /var/log/messages, so it looks like I'm set. Thanks alot
for the advice, you saved me a dreaded (not as dreaded as some OS's
where you have to reboot 10 times) install.

Now just a little work with WINE and (in)SANE, and I'll be running
Windowless computers.

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Re: [expert] libpng not working in Mozilla/Galeon

2001-11-12 Thread Dave Sherman

On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 17:51, John Haywood wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:50, you wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  Hoping someone can shed some light on this problem. I recently upgraded
  (from Cooker) to Mozilla 0.9.5, and the latest Galeon as well. Along the
  way, I als ohad to upgrade libpng from version 2 to 3.
 
  Everything seemed to go well, I was able to meet all dependencies with a
  minimum of hassle, and libpng upgraded just fine.
 
  BUT ... now, neither Mozilla not Galeon are able to renger .png images!
  If I look in /usr/lib/, I can see both libpng2 and libpng3:
  libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
  libpng.so.2.1.0.12*
  libpng.so.3 - libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
  libpng.so.3.1.2.0*
 
  I assume this is correct, because there are still many apps on my
  mostly-stock 8.1 system that require libpng2.
 
  I renamed the old libpng2 libraries, and made links with the same name
  to libpng3, but that did not seem to work. In fact, Galeon would not
  even launch! So, I named the libpng2 libraries back. At this point, I am
  at a loss, not knowing enough about how shared libraries work, and
  especially using different library versions.
 
  Any help?
 
  Dave
 
 Welcome to the world of Cooker! What you actually have to do in the case of 
 the libpng2 - libpng3 shift (and many other major library upgrades, too), is 
 to rebuild *all* of the libpng2-dependent apps against the new libraries.
 
 Often, this can be accomplished by simply downloading the src.rpm and issuing 
 an rpm -bb command, but it can get a lot trickier

Call me crazy (or more likely, ignorant), but what you are saying makes
no sense to me. Mozilla 0.9.5 and Galeon (both from Cooker) required the
libpng3 (from Cooker) in the first place! They shouldn't need to be
recompiled. And I have had no problems with other apps using the older
library, since both libraries currently exist on my system.

What I am thinking is that somehow Mozilla/Galeon are loading the wrong
version of libpng, and thus are not able to properly render .png images.
Is there any way I can confirm if this is the case, or is there
something I am missing?

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RE: [expert] Samba XP

2001-11-12 Thread Arthur H. Johnson II


There are certain servers I always install from source every time a new
version comes out:

bind
apache

and

Samba.

I have a system for upgrading source code.  I prefix everything to its
name-version.  For example when I run the configure script for the source
code, I do:

./configure --prefix=/usr/samba-2.2.2 plus more options of course

for samba.  Then when make install runs, it will install the WHOLE server
into its own tree.  Then I edit the /etc/init.d/samba init script and
change it so it points to the new version.

Jut my 2c

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Rony Shapiro wrote:

 MessageThe note refers to Samba 2.2.2, which was released last month.

 Mandrake 8.1 came with Samba 2.2.1a - you might want to update -the fixes
 for winXP are *very* recent.


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   Subject: RE: [expert] Samba  XP


   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/csamba6.html

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 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:07 AM
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 Subject: [expert] Samba  XP






 I'm trying to set up Samba server as a domain controller.

 I also wanted to add some shares as netlogon etc...


 On the server, no problem. I managed to prepare the whole thing, added
 an account for the win XP machine.

 The problem is that I can't add the pc to become a member of the domain,
 nor can I see the shares.

 I always get a box to enter a pwd. Root doesn't work and I set the
 encryption for passwords to yes.


 Can someone guide me.


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[expert] Mandrake FirstTime

2001-11-12 Thread Timothy R.Butler

It's not a big deal, but I was curious, did anyone else have a problem that 
seems to prevent Mandrake FirstTime from accepting any input in the text 
boxes it has?

  I think it might be because there isn't any WM open when it starts. I was 
just curious if this was just me, or if it was some kind of little bug.

  Thanks,
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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Mario Michael da Costa

I would just like to add that some of the users of this list live in
different time zones, so it is wishfulll thinking to expect a reply
right away. I am not sure about this but i suppose AOL is predominantly
used in the USA. that could be the reason for your prompt reply. 

and David we are all users just like you. if you post a question and we
too have had a similar problem and have solved it, only then can we
reply. and to be honest i have never seen a DVD drive yet nor the floppy
drive you mentioned. so don't expect a quick reply as soon as you post.
that too on some hardware which is not too generic.

Thank You,
Regards,
mario


Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 
 Dodd, David J wrote:
 
  I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
  difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive (Dell
  Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
  without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
  finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
  funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
  least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is just
  to tough a topic for the expert community I will try the newbie forum.
 
 David:
 
 Since AOL requires their customized version of IE, it can't be accessed
 directly from Linux. There was a short discussion on the newbie list a
 few weeks ago about running AOL under Wine or other emulator. (Talk
 about kludges. Oh well...) If you wish to pursue this further, search
 the newbie archives for AOL.
 
 A Google search didn't turn up much of anything other than (1) a lot of
 articles about accessing AIM from Linux, and (2) some rumors that that
 were circulating sometime in 2000 to the effect that AOL was thinking
 about granting access to Linux users. Nothing ever came of it -- I
 expect that the Time Warner crowd and their obsession with the bottom
 line had a lot to do with the decision, as in Why spend a pile of money
 making our system accessible to a bunch of open-sourcing,
 trouble-making, anti-American hackers? Or, perhaps a cooler head spoke
 up, pointing out that there is some animosity amongst many Linuxers
 towards the sanitized and controlled world of AOL; most of us want the
 whole internet, and the ability to access it on our own terms. We don't
 need no stinking training wheels.
 
 As to the other postings pointing out that flaming a whole news group is
 Not a Very Good Idea (TM), and that expecting an instant barrage of
 responses from a group of other users is likewise over the top, that's
 the way that it is here -- sometimes you get a great answer within a few
 minutes, sometimes you never get one. And, sometimes you get blown off.
 In this case, you pretty much got what you asked for.
 
 Lay off the caffeine.
 
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RE: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Arnab_Ganguly

Going by all the issues on 8,1, I'd expect a Bugfix release 8,2 soon! I am
sticking to 8,0.

Cheers,
Arnab

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 I would just like to add that some of the users of this list live in
 different time zones, so it is wishfulll thinking to expect a reply
 right away. I am not sure about this but i suppose AOL is predominantly
 used in the USA. that could be the reason for your prompt reply. 
 
 and David we are all users just like you. if you post a question and we
 too have had a similar problem and have solved it, only then can we
 reply. and to be honest i have never seen a DVD drive yet nor the floppy
 drive you mentioned. so don't expect a quick reply as soon as you post.
 that too on some hardware which is not too generic.
 
 Thank You,
 Regards,
 mario
 
 
 Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  
  Dodd, David J wrote:
  
   I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
   difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive
 (Dell
   Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
   without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
   finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
   funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
   least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is
 just
   to tough a topic for the expert community I will try the newbie forum.
  
  David:
  
  Since AOL requires their customized version of IE, it can't be accessed
  directly from Linux. There was a short discussion on the newbie list a
  few weeks ago about running AOL under Wine or other emulator. (Talk
  about kludges. Oh well...) If you wish to pursue this further, search
  the newbie archives for AOL.
  
  A Google search didn't turn up much of anything other than (1) a lot of
  articles about accessing AIM from Linux, and (2) some rumors that that
  were circulating sometime in 2000 to the effect that AOL was thinking
  about granting access to Linux users. Nothing ever came of it -- I
  expect that the Time Warner crowd and their obsession with the bottom
  line had a lot to do with the decision, as in Why spend a pile of money
  making our system accessible to a bunch of open-sourcing,
  trouble-making, anti-American hackers? Or, perhaps a cooler head spoke
  up, pointing out that there is some animosity amongst many Linuxers
  towards the sanitized and controlled world of AOL; most of us want the
  whole internet, and the ability to access it on our own terms. We don't
  need no stinking training wheels.
  
  As to the other postings pointing out that flaming a whole news group is
  Not a Very Good Idea (TM), and that expecting an instant barrage of
  responses from a group of other users is likewise over the top, that's
  the way that it is here -- sometimes you get a great answer within a few
  minutes, sometimes you never get one. And, sometimes you get blown off.
  In this case, you pretty much got what you asked for.
  
  Lay off the caffeine.
  
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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread ltiu

Hey D. Dodd. Did you get any answers from the newbie forum. If you could be 
so kind as to enlighten us experts on how your problem got fixed. That way, 
we can help the next one like you that comes along. Thanks.

On Monday 12 November 2001 10:50, you wrote:
 I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
 difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive (Dell
 Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
 without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
 finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
 funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
 least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is just
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[expert] cd label creator

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

Hey all,
I've been playing around with the different front-ends for cd 
burning and I was wondering if there were any projects out there to 
create cd labels that you put on the disc itself?  I've found that I can 
print decent covers that go in the jewel case, but I'd like to find 
something that lets me use my stomper.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: [expert] tcpwrappers

2001-11-12 Thread kons Richard Bown

Daniel Woods wrote:
 
  now that in.telnetd is not used in later kernels
 
 I haven't heard about that !
 
  the format of hosts.allow  
  telnetd: xx.xx.xx.xx
 
  where xx.xx.xx.xx is an inet address
 
  is this the correct format  ???
 
 I would still use
 in.telnetd :   10.10.10.55 192.168.10. : allow
 in.telnetd :   136.159. : allow
 
 Yes, you can have multiple lines.
 However I no longer use Telnet, I use OpenSSH and SFTP (secure ftp).
 That would be my recommendation for you.
 
 Thanks... Dan.
Hi Dan,, thanks for the reply

I originally tried in.telnetd and from the syslog that failed, so I
tried telnetd thats also failing...

If I could use ssh I would do, but it wont go thru the telnet proxy
server here..

I 'll try erasing the file altogether and rewriting it, it would'nt be
the first time a non 
displayed control character had got in..


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[expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Dodd, David J

I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive (Dell
Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is just
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Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Dodd, David J wrote:
 
 I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
 difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive (Dell
 Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
 without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
 finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
 funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
 least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is just
 to tough a topic for the expert community I will try the newbie forum.

David:

Since AOL requires their customized version of IE, it can't be accessed
directly from Linux. There was a short discussion on the newbie list a
few weeks ago about running AOL under Wine or other emulator. (Talk
about kludges. Oh well...) If you wish to pursue this further, search
the newbie archives for AOL.

A Google search didn't turn up much of anything other than (1) a lot of
articles about accessing AIM from Linux, and (2) some rumors that that
were circulating sometime in 2000 to the effect that AOL was thinking
about granting access to Linux users. Nothing ever came of it -- I
expect that the Time Warner crowd and their obsession with the bottom
line had a lot to do with the decision, as in Why spend a pile of money
making our system accessible to a bunch of open-sourcing,
trouble-making, anti-American hackers? Or, perhaps a cooler head spoke
up, pointing out that there is some animosity amongst many Linuxers
towards the sanitized and controlled world of AOL; most of us want the
whole internet, and the ability to access it on our own terms. We don't
need no stinking training wheels.

As to the other postings pointing out that flaming a whole news group is
Not a Very Good Idea (TM), and that expecting an instant barrage of
responses from a group of other users is likewise over the top, that's
the way that it is here -- sometimes you get a great answer within a few
minutes, sometimes you never get one. And, sometimes you get blown off.
In this case, you pretty much got what you asked for.

Lay off the caffeine.

Carroll



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[expert] Mandrake Linux Gaming Edition

2001-11-12 Thread Craig Williamson (ENZ)
Title: Mandrake Linux Gaming Edition





Hi There,


 Has anyone had a chance to get the gaming edition. November 9 has passed and I haven't heard anything on the net about its official release. Has anyone seen it running, or has anyone used the WineX extensions for the games. I've heard rumours circulating around the web that WIneX outperforms DirectX with the same game/program. Is this true and is there any proof to back this up. And if any of you have tried it what are your experiences. Let me know. Thanks.


Craig





RE: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(

2001-11-12 Thread Ferris, Thomas M

See,  I believe this is what David is trying to say.  Carol, don't you
get it?  He doesn't use AOL, he was using that as a example. He was just
asking a very basic question about his laptop.  The thought of people
like you that are using AOL on a Linux box saddens me to death.  I am
glad you were able to write a short book on the subject of how to use or
install AOL.  ;0)  Someone has a lot of time on her hands.  Seems AOL is
so easy to use, no wonder its number #1.

-Original Message-
From: Carroll Grigsby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] 8.0 good :-) - 8.1 bad :-(


Dodd, David J wrote:
 
 I have decided to go with ManDrake 8.0 instead of 8.1 because of the
 difficultly with it recognizing my cd/dvd drive or my floppy drive
(Dell
 Inspiron 4000).  I gave in and loaded 8.0 last night and it installed
 without a hitch.  Thanks to all the experts on this subject I was
 finally able to realize that I needed to install 8.0 and not 8.1.  Its
 funny if I had a question about installing AOL on LM I would get at
 least 10 replies  back within a half hour.  I guess this subject is
just
 to tough a topic for the expert community I will try the newbie forum.

David:

Since AOL requires their customized version of IE, it can't be accessed
directly from Linux. There was a short discussion on the newbie list a
few weeks ago about running AOL under Wine or other emulator. (Talk
about kludges. Oh well...) If you wish to pursue this further, search
the newbie archives for AOL.

A Google search didn't turn up much of anything other than (1) a lot of
articles about accessing AIM from Linux, and (2) some rumors that that
were circulating sometime in 2000 to the effect that AOL was thinking
about granting access to Linux users. Nothing ever came of it -- I
expect that the Time Warner crowd and their obsession with the bottom
line had a lot to do with the decision, as in Why spend a pile of money
making our system accessible to a bunch of open-sourcing,
trouble-making, anti-American hackers? Or, perhaps a cooler head spoke
up, pointing out that there is some animosity amongst many Linuxers
towards the sanitized and controlled world of AOL; most of us want the
whole internet, and the ability to access it on our own terms. We don't
need no stinking training wheels.

As to the other postings pointing out that flaming a whole news group is
Not a Very Good Idea (TM), and that expecting an instant barrage of
responses from a group of other users is likewise over the top, that's
the way that it is here -- sometimes you get a great answer within a few
minutes, sometimes you never get one. And, sometimes you get blown off.
In this case, you pretty much got what you asked for.

Lay off the caffeine.

Carroll




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