[expert] OK a little OT humor for slow night

2002-04-13 Thread J. Craig Woods

Ya, well it takes all kinds...


Dr John,
The Night Tripper





I have not heard anyone explain this as well as Cliff Clavin on Cheers. One
afternoon at Cheers, Cliff was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.

Here's how it went: Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only 
move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is theslowest and 
weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural
selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the 
whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest
members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the
slowest brain cells.

Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally it
attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular
consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a
faster and more efficient machine.

That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.



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Re: [expert] turnoff monitor after 5 minutes

2002-04-13 Thread Sevatio

run kcontrol a.k.a. KDE Control Center.  Go to PowerControl - Energy.

faisal gillani wrote:
 i am using mandrake 8.2/gnome 1.4  i would like to
 turn off my monitor after 5 minutes of inactivity ... 
 i know how to do it in windows but not on linux can
 you tell me how ?
 
 thanks
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Re: [expert] [OT] Xine problem with 8.2

2002-04-13 Thread kwan

On 7 Apr 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote:

 All;
 Ok, not exactly on topic, but I'm hoping that someone here will know
 this one.

 I'm trying to play DVD's with xine. It plays mpegs ok, but I get the
 following error on DVDs:

 There is no available plugin to handle
   dvd://video_ts.vob


 I've checked the home page for xine looking for answers, an found
 nothing. Can someone point me to an answer for this?


Since you posted this I'm assuming that you found the other pages to the
different demuxers. I'm curious as to what sort of performance you're
getting and what are your hardware specs. My laptop has a P/400 but
video is too jerky to be watchable. It runs fine on an Athlon 900
though.




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[expert] StarOffice 6 printing multiple copies problem

2002-04-13 Thread Mark Williamson

Hi All,

I wonder if anyone has this problem..   I use a Epson900 printer, ever
since the later releases of the Gimp print drivers I haven't been able
to print multiple copies of a document..  I see that Star Office Ver 6
now supports the CUPS printing system..  Anyone know how to fix this
problem..   The only way that I can print multiple copies of a document,
is print to a file,  may be call it print.ps, then use lpr   like 
lpr -#5 print.ps to get my 5 copies..  anyone know a method around
this, as all I would like to do is select 5 copies from the dialog
straight out of StarOffice..OpenOffice also has the same problem..

Cheers
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Re: [expert] Any issues with Cyber Drive CD writer?

2002-04-13 Thread Ron Stodden

Phil wrote:
 
 At long last I have made a move to buy a CD R/W drive. A local store sells a
 Cyber Drive that is affordable. It is an IDE device and according to the box,
 and Cyber Drive's web site, it Linux compatible.
 
 I was wondering if anyone knows of any issues that I should be aware of?

Do a test:  Ynder Linux, write a CR-RW from an image file using
cdrecord directly, then do an md5sum on both the image file and the
device (/dev/scd0?).  You cannot do this under Windows because the
Windows md5sum has no ability to operate at the device level.  

If they match, you are in luck.  If the device check always ends in a
read error, don't buy it.   Recent changes to the CD writer firmware
across all manufacturers have implemented a read-ahead feature that
errors at the last sector as it tries to read ahead past the end of
data.   Stupid, eh?

I have been through 4 drives from different manufacturers all of which
showed this problem.  Older drives are OK.

-- 
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Re: [expert] OK a little OT humor for slow night

2002-04-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall

J. Craig Woods wrote:
 
 Ya, well it takes all kinds...
 
 Dr John,
 The Night Tripper
 
   ---
 
 I have not heard anyone explain this as well as Cliff Clavin on Cheers. One
 afternoon at Cheers, Cliff was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.

lol I love it! ;-)

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   DarkLord
   \/



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[expert] Can't mount floppy drive

2002-04-13 Thread kicho


I can't mount floppy drive

I found this mesg:

[root@lods kicho]# mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/
mount: /dev/fd0: unknown device
[root@lods kicho]# mount /dev/fd0
mount: /dev/fd0: unknown device

I saw it and lokking for boot mesg:

[root@lods kicho]# dmesg | grep floppy
ide-floppy driver 0.97
floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f0 in use
ide-floppy driver 0.97

I believe 0x03f0 is the problem and:

[root@lods kicho]# dmesg | grep 3f0
PnPBIOS: PNP0c02: request 0x3f0-0x3f2 ok
floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f0 in use

I don't know what PNP is, I saw it in BIOS and may be it have a relationship 
with ISA devices? I don't have any ISA device here. I put no irq and no 
address in BIOS for PNP settings, but the problem still goin on
Anyone please...






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Re: [expert] Monitoring cybercafe connections from the clients

2002-04-13 Thread Alfredo Cole

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El Sáb 13 Abr 2002 10:17, escribiste:
 Hi I'm in my way to use Mandrake-Linux as a server in a
 cybercafe to share the internet connection, share the printers,
 etc, etc.  Also I'm very interested whether exist a software that
 could monitor the beginning of an internet connection from a
 client, count the time she or he is online, and if's needed  end
 the connection from that client due to a time excess. I am not
 interested in develop it so, i'd like to find it!!!

 TIA

 Nicolas Gomez

 P.D: Sorry, but my english is badly

Take a look a http://www.ltsp.org for an Internet Cafe Billing 
system. It's free.

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Re: [expert] [OT] Xine problem with 8.2

2002-04-13 Thread civileme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 7 Apr 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote:

All;
Ok, not exactly on topic, but I'm hoping that someone here will know
this one.

I'm trying to play DVD's with xine. It plays mpegs ok, but I get the
following error on DVDs:

There is no available plugin to handle
  dvd://video_ts.vob


I've checked the home page for xine looking for answers, an found
nothing. Can someone point me to an answer for this?


Since you posted this I'm assuming that you found the other pages to the
different demuxers. I'm curious as to what sort of performance you're
getting and what are your hardware specs. My laptop has a P/400 but
video is too jerky to be watchable. It runs fine on an Athlon 900
though.





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To the original question:

Xine does not have a decoder for the Content Scrambling System because 
MPAA won't license any open-source decoder.  If you look around the web 
with the search key DeCSS  you will learn about greedy corporations, 
bought and paid-for laws, and the fact that LinDVD is unavailable except 
to OEMs for hardware-specific cases, and that PowerDVD just doesn't work 
that well.

Either buy a decoder card (the Dxr2 from Creative is supported) or make 
a decision to be an outlaw and download the source for DeCSS and compile 
it as a plug-in for Xine or abandon the idea of playing encrypted DVDs.

PowerDVD, a system for windows, I have tried.  It is licensed by MPAA, 
and on a 1G Athlon with 256M RAM and a good interface, it still gave 
jerky motion.  PowerDVD for linux does not appear to work at all.

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Re: [expert] [OT] Xine problem with 8.2

2002-04-13 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 10:42:14 -0800
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 7 Apr 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
 
 All;
 Ok, not exactly on topic, but I'm hoping that someone here will know
 this one.
 
 I'm trying to play DVD's with xine. It plays mpegs ok, but I get the
 following error on DVDs:
 
 There is no available plugin to handle
 dvd://video_ts.vob
 
 
 I've checked the home page for xine looking for answers, an found
 nothing. Can someone point me to an answer for this?
 
 
 Since you posted this I'm assuming that you found the other pages to the
 different demuxers. I'm curious as to what sort of performance you're
 getting and what are your hardware specs. My laptop has a P/400 but
 video is too jerky to be watchable. It runs fine on an Athlon 900
 though.
 
 
 
 
 
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 To the original question:
 
 Xine does not have a decoder for the Content Scrambling System because 
 MPAA won't license any open-source decoder.  If you look around the web 
 with the search key DeCSS  you will learn about greedy corporations, 
 bought and paid-for laws, and the fact that LinDVD is unavailable except 
 to OEMs for hardware-specific cases, and that PowerDVD just doesn't work 
 that well.
 
 Either buy a decoder card (the Dxr2 from Creative is supported) or make 
 a decision to be an outlaw and download the source for DeCSS and compile 
 it as a plug-in for Xine or abandon the idea of playing encrypted DVDs.


For an outlaws view on libdvdcss.
I have dled, built, and installed libdvdcss to use with ogle.
My understanding of the law is that it is illegal to distribute DeCSS
as a program, but that it is not illegal to offer the source code but even were it to 
be I would still have little qualm using it.

I am using it to play in Linux DVDs I purchased on a system for which I purchased the 
dvd drive and the graphics card.
The graphics card was bundled with a 'licensed' soft DVD player.
Simply because I choose to play the DVD in linux rather than in windows
my feelings are that the 'license' covers this system, regardless of the OS I run or 
the player I use.   
 

 
 PowerDVD, a system for windows, I have tried.  It is licensed by MPAA, 
 and on a 1G Athlon with 256M RAM and a good interface, it still gave 
 jerky motion.  PowerDVD for linux does not appear to work at all.

PowerDVD is not very good even on a faster system nor is the HollywoodMagic decoder 
card much better.
The best player I have seen is that which ATI ships with their vid card, it rivals 
that of a DVD player and in linux ogles performance is on that same level.

To get a little better understanding of DeCSS 
http://vialink.com.br/~jcastro/decss/info.html

It not too long, boring, or dry and gives and overview of the situation. 

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Re: [expert] Box security

2002-04-13 Thread J. Craig Woods

Jay wrote:
 I am running Mandrake 8.2 with ports 22(ssh), 25(smtp), 80 (http),
 443(secure-http) open. Does anyone know a a good site, or a few good sites that
 will explain different types of hack attempts on these ports so that I can make
 sure my box is secure. I do have a firewall up and running with servers running
 on each of those ports but there may be round-about ways of attacking them I am
 not aware of.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Jay
 

Well that is a tall order because it depends on a lot of veriable, i.e. 
what version of ssh, what kind of MTA (sendmail, postfix, etc.) and what 
version, what kind and version of a web server. You are probably running 
apache (I am not going to check) for your web server. You could start by 
looking at web pages for the particular servers you are running. These 
pages, for example, apache or sendmail, will tell you about possible 
exploits and updates.

In general, you might want to look at http://www.snort.org. They have a 
lot of links for the kind of stuff you might want to be aware of, and 
the have one hell of a nice program for monitoring all packets coming at 
these open ports called snort. I think I saw some package MDK 8.2 is 
coming with, something called prelude. I am a confirmed user of snort 
but prelude, and their home page should help also.

HaPPy Snorting

Dr John,
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive

2002-04-13 Thread KevinO

sda wrote:
  RS has no problem with this at all, free
 as in speech, not necessarily free as in beer. The heart of 
 GNU/Linux is still free as in beer, however the ease of use necessarily
 isn't or shouldn't be IMHO.
 
But RMS's license states that once I buy, download, whatever some GPL'd code, 
I am now
free to give away this software however I please. Mandrake could run people 
off of their ftp servers if they wish, but they can't keep the latest versions 
out of the hands of the non-payers, unless they start writing code from 
scratch. This code would have to be totally non-derived from anything GPL'd 
and this would allow an alternative license. This of course would be seen as 
most unfriendly

The situation is a little more complicated than this, but this is it in a 
nutshell.


-- 
Kevin O'Connor

  People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun ...

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Barry

I'm not an expert, but doesn't Mandrake only have to
provide the source for all the modifications Mandrake
did.  Can Mandrake NOT provide the ISOs for free?  And
does Mandrake need to provide the source for all the
other applications, etc that they bundle up in the
Mandrake distrio.  The source for these programs can
be found elsewhere.

Can somebody please explain this to me? 

What does Mandrake need to provide to comply with the
GPL?

Thanks,
Robert


--- KevinO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sda wrote:
   RS has no problem with this at all, free
  as in speech, not necessarily free as in beer. The
 heart of 
  GNU/Linux is still free as in beer, however the
 ease of use necessarily
  isn't or shouldn't be IMHO.
  
 But RMS's license states that once I buy, download,
 whatever some GPL'd code, 
 I am now
 free to give away this software however I please.
 Mandrake could run people 
 off of their ftp servers if they wish, but they
 can't keep the latest versions 
 out of the hands of the non-payers, unless they
 start writing code from 
 scratch. This code would have to be totally
 non-derived from anything GPL'd 
 and this would allow an alternative license. This of
 course would be seen as 
 most unfriendly
 
 The situation is a little more complicated than
 this, but this is it in a 
 nutshell.
 
 
 -- 
 Kevin O'Connor
 
   People will be free to devote themselves to
 activities that are fun ...
 
 The GNU Manifesto - Copyright (C) 1985, 1993 Free
 Software Foundation, Inc.
 
 
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[expert] Soundwrapper

2002-04-13 Thread Sevatio

What is the purpose of soundwrapper?  For example, the Kmenu has 
[soundwrapper xmms] as a command to run Xmms.  Why not just xmms as a 
command?

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Re: [expert] Soundwrapper

2002-04-13 Thread Kwan Lowe

Sevatio wrote:

 What is the purpose of soundwrapper?  For example, the Kmenu has 
 [soundwrapper xmms] as a command to run Xmms.  Why not just xmms as 
 a command?

My understanding is that only one process can have access to the sound 
device at a time. To allow multiple applications to use the sound 
device, a single process grabs the /dev/dsp (probably esd does this) and 
then provides access to the other applications. Soundwrapper is likely 
wrapping xmms in a manner allowing it to use esd.






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Re: [expert] xscreensaver questions

2002-04-13 Thread mike

Telnet in from another machine and do a ps -ef.


On Friday 12 April 2002 22:11, David Relson wrote:
 At 09:49 PM 4/12/02, mike wrote:
 There really aren't THAT many.  Just preview the screensavers, one at a
  time, from the xscreensaver-demo gui. Turn on the ones you like, turn off
  the ones you don't (or that don't work).

 True.  There are a lot of 'em, but the number is manageable.  Call me lazy,
 but I'd like an easy answer to What's the name of that cool one running
 RIGHT NOW?


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Re: [expert] Monitoring cybercafe connections from the clients

2002-04-13 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 11:31:02 -0600 Alfredo Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Hash: SHA1
 
 El Sáb 13 Abr 2002 10:17, escribiste:
  Hi I'm in my way to use Mandrake-Linux as a server in a
  cybercafe to share the internet connection, share the printers,
  etc, etc.  Also I'm very interested whether exist a software that
  could monitor the beginning of an internet connection from a
  client, count the time she or he is online, and if's needed  end
  the connection from that client due to a time excess. I am not
  interested in develop it so, i'd like to find it!!!
 
  TIA
 
  Nicolas Gomez
 
  P.D: Sorry, but my english is badly
 
 Take a look a http://www.ltsp.org for an Internet Cafe Billing 
 system. It's free.

Check this out too...
http://www.dnalounge.com/
http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/src/kiosk/

Pierre



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Re: [expert] xscreensaver questions

2002-04-13 Thread David Relson

At 10:44 PM 4/13/02, you wrote:
Telnet in from another machine and do a ps -ef.

Mike,

An interesting idea ...

I have been running top via a telnet session.  Sometimes the screensaver is 
seeable in top's output and sometimes I don't see it (in a 25 line 
display), so that wasn't getting the job done.

A little experimentation with ps, grep, and perl lead to the script 
below.  It executes nicely via rsh.

#!/usr/bin/perl
#
#   show.screensaver - identify and display xscreensaver
#
$ps_ef=`ps -ef | grep xscreensaver | grep -v grep`;
$xscreensaver = substr($ps_ef,9,5);
$proc=`ps alxw | grep $xscreensaver | grep -v grep | tail -1`;
$command=substr($proc,69);
($program)=split(  , $command);
print $program;

So far, it has shown 'lisa', 'gltext', 'cynosure', 'xlyap', and 
'ripples'.  Could be, it'll actually work!

Thanks for the suggestion.  It was an inspiration!

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[expert] kernel panic on cardctl eject with buslink card

2002-04-13 Thread Aaron Peromsik


Hi,

Last weekend I installed the 8.2 download edition. In general I am
impressed. However, I can't install on my wife's machine until the
following shutdown issue is addressed: I get a kernel panic when
cardmgr tries to shut down.

My machine is a Sony Vaio F-340, and the card in question is a BusLink
wireless network card (uses the ray_cs driver). The desktop machine
which I haven't tried yet has a similar card, WebGear Aviator
PRO. Both cards and both machines work fine with Mandrake 8.1, except
that (for both 8.1 and 8.2) I had to manually change the essid in
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts despite setting it during installation.

My kernel panic looks like this:

-
[root@grover root]# service pcmcia stop
Shutting down PCMCIA services: cardmgrUnable to handle kernel paging request at 
virtual address ccc6a0001
*pde = 0b0d4067
*pte = 
Oops: 
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[ccc66fd5]  Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00010246
eax:  ebx: caad3440  ecx: cb6bda00  edx: ccc6a000
esi: cb0fa800 edi: 0003  ebp: cb7b1c04  esp: cb6b1bb4
ds: 0018  es: 0018  ss: 0018
Process cardmgr (pid: 819, stackpage=cb7b1000)
Stack: caad3440 0001 0003 c010836a 0003 cb6bda00 cb7b1c04 cb7b1c04
   0003 c02bb960 caad3440 c01084ed 0003 cb7b1c04 caad3440 ccc5e000
   0580 cabdf00c ccc5a0c8 c022af98 ccc5e000 0200 05d0 0580
Call Trace: [c010836a] [c01084ed] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc50018]
   [ccc5892c] [ccc5821d] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc500a3] [ccc51c29] [ccc65c3a]
   [ccc68d20] [ccc65308] [ccc60875] [ccc611aa] [ccbb8481] [ccbabd19]
   [ccbada5f] [c01c4f67] [c0176b4a] [c0125334] [c01258ca] [c0114de8]
   [c0125d0d] [c01260b4] [c0141617] [c0106f23]

Code: 8a 42 01 84 c0 79 0c 89 74 24 10 5b 5e 5f e9 e8 0b 00 00 3c
 0Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
In interrupt handler - not syncing
-

I get the same thing when doing just cardctl eject. But if I take
the card out manually, the drivers clean themselves up just fine. 

If there's anything I can do to help track this down please let me
know. I'd like to see this addressed in updates or at least have a way
to hack the scripts to work around it so that my wife can start
using some of the new features of 8.2 on her machine.

Thanks for an otherwise great distro,

Aaron Peromsik
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Re: [expert] kernel panic: unable to handle paging requests /

2002-04-13 Thread Sergei Vorobyov

NULL pointer
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X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) Cuyahoga Valley XEmacs Lucid

Seems that Aaron's problem is more substantial than just cardmgr.
I also started to get kernel Oops of the kind (pcmcia unrelated):

  Unable to handle paging request
  Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference

in Mandrake Linux Release 8.2 (Bluebird)
kernel 2.4.18-6mdk

It looks like the virtual memory management system is buggy (just a
guess).

Question: is it Mandrake's or www.kernel.org problem and who could 
be interested in getting/fixing such bug reports?

Aaron Peromsik writes:
 
 Hi,
 
 Last weekend I installed the 8.2 download edition. In general I am
 impressed. However, I can't install on my wife's machine until the
 following shutdown issue is addressed: I get a kernel panic when
 cardmgr tries to shut down.
 
 My machine is a Sony Vaio F-340, and the card in question is a BusLink
 wireless network card (uses the ray_cs driver). The desktop machine
 which I haven't tried yet has a similar card, WebGear Aviator
 PRO. Both cards and both machines work fine with Mandrake 8.1, except
 that (for both 8.1 and 8.2) I had to manually change the essid in
 /etc/pcmcia/config.opts despite setting it during installation.
 
 My kernel panic looks like this:
 
 -
 [root@grover root]# service pcmcia stop
 Shutting down PCMCIA services: cardmgrUnable to handle kernel paging request at 
virtual address ccc6a0001
 *pde = 0b0d4067
 *pte = 
 Oops: 
 CPU: 0
 EIP: 0010:[ccc66fd5]  Not tainted
 EFLAGS: 00010246
 eax:  ebx: caad3440  ecx: cb6bda00  edx: ccc6a000
 esi: cb0fa800 edi: 0003  ebp: cb7b1c04  esp: cb6b1bb4
 ds: 0018  es: 0018  ss: 0018
 Process cardmgr (pid: 819, stackpage=cb7b1000)
 Stack: caad3440 0001 0003 c010836a 0003 cb6bda00 cb7b1c04 cb7b1c04
0003 c02bb960 caad3440 c01084ed 0003 cb7b1c04 caad3440 ccc5e000
0580 cabdf00c ccc5a0c8 c022af98 ccc5e000 0200 05d0 0580
 Call Trace: [c010836a] [c01084ed] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc50018]
[ccc5892c] [ccc5821d] [ccc5a0c8] [ccc500a3] [ccc51c29] [ccc65c3a]
[ccc68d20] [ccc65308] [ccc60875] [ccc611aa] [ccbb8481] [ccbabd19]
[ccbada5f] [c01c4f67] [c0176b4a] [c0125334] [c01258ca] [c0114de8]
[c0125d0d] [c01260b4] [c0141617] [c0106f23]
 
 Code: 8a 42 01 84 c0 79 0c 89 74 24 10 5b 5e 5f e9 e8 0b 00 00 3c
  0Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
 In interrupt handler - not syncing
 -
 
 I get the same thing when doing just cardctl eject. But if I take
 the card out manually, the drivers clean themselves up just fine. 
 
 If there's anything I can do to help track this down please let me
 know. I'd like to see this addressed in updates or at least have a way
 to hack the scripts to work around it so that my wife can start
 using some of the new features of 8.2 on her machine.
 
 Thanks for an otherwise great distro,
 
 Aaron Peromsik
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