[expert] Announcement of Linux Terminal server with MDK 9.0 - HOWTO

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
As we are dealing with experts here it may interest some of those.
I found this in the Mandrake Linux newsgroup:


Subject: [Announcement] Linux Terminal Server + MDK 9.0 - HOWTO
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:45:04 GMT

All,

I've successfully deployed LTSP with a MDK 9.0 server. I kept notes of the
process and I turned it into a  small HOWTO. The guys at LTSP.org have
added it to their website.

If interested, check it out here:

http://ltsp.org/contrib/MDK90-LTSP.html

Soon, I'll have Catalan and Spanish versions of the same document.

Enjoy!


Salut,
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RE: [expert] permissions for a cgi script

2003-02-07 Thread H. Carter Harris
Thanks James ...

The command alone didn't do it but I found the mod_perl page and some other
apache documentation that I think will complete the task.  I appreciate your
help.

Carter

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Subject: Re: [expert] permissions for a cgi script


Try adding ExecCGI to your options list.

James

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 20:08, H. Carter Harris wrote:
 I have been trying to find the answer to this question and the closest I
 have come is the O'Reilly book on Apache.  But I'm wondering if it is
 specific enough.

 I have apache 1.3.23.4mdk running.  I have virtual hosts configured and
they
 are working correctly with index.html.  Now I want to use a cgi script on
 one of the sites.  The host to use the cgi script has the following
 directives:

 VirtualHost 192.168.1.103
 ServerName www.xxx.com
 DocumentRoot /usr/www/vtest/htdocs
 ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/www/vtest/cgi-bin/
 Directory /usr/www/vtest/htdocs
 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory
 /VirtualHost

 When I go to the default file on the domain it works.  When I try to go to
 www.xxx.com/cgi-bin/cgihello.plx I get the following message:

 You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/cgihello.plx on this
server.

 chmod was used to set the directory and file as follows:

 directory: drwxr-xr-x
 cgi-file: -rw-r--r-x

 What am I overlooking?

 Thanks for any help in advance.  Carter




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RE: [expert] Announcement of Linux Terminal server with MDK 9.0 - HOWTO

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Wideman
Cool, thanks for the info.  It seems neat and i will play with it
soonplaying with UML now, hehe.
Rob

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:33 AM
 To: Experts
 Subject: [expert] Announcement of Linux Terminal server with MDK 9.0 -
 HOWTO


 As we are dealing with experts here it may interest some of those.
 I found this in the Mandrake Linux newsgroup:

 
 Subject: [Announcement] Linux Terminal Server + MDK 9.0 - HOWTO
 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:45:04 GMT

 All,

 I've successfully deployed LTSP with a MDK 9.0 server. I kept
 notes of the
 process and I turned it into a  small HOWTO. The guys at LTSP.org have
 added it to their website.

 If interested, check it out here:

 http://ltsp.org/contrib/MDK90-LTSP.html

 Soon, I'll have Catalan and Spanish versions of the same document.

 Enjoy!


 Salut,
 Sinner
 --
 http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/ Linux User # 89976
 Testing Mandrake 9.0 -Linux Machine # 38068

 -

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[expert] openssl-0.9.6h-devel

2003-02-07 Thread maxxik
   Hi !

   Anybody here knows how i can find openssl-0.9.6h-devel package ?

   Wbr, maxx



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[expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread stefmit
Hi, everyone,

Please bare with me - have not compiled a new kernel since the days of 1st 
edition of Yggdrasil ;( - so - just recently got the new ...-24mdk source 
from the updates, happily installed the source from the rpm, and - confident 
in my ability of getting in trouble - got into the source directory and did 
carry out the standard compilation, using as a refresher:

http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/Updating_a_Kernel.html
and
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/20_Steps_to_a_New_Kernel_with_Grub.html

I have tweaked the above to be able to salvage the old stuff - just backups 
of all my stuff, nothing to mess the new compilation, though (which is why I 
am still able to boot and send you this message), but my new stuff totally 
failed me, and here is what I get scrolling by my screen, when booting into 
the new kernel:

busybox: unresolved symbol drop_super_Rc64cc0dd4
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k reiserfs, errno=2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k freereiserfs, errno=2
kernel panic: no init found ... 

and that's it.

I know I compiled everything with the same options I had in the original 
distro installation ... so - does anybody have a pointer for me? Have you 
done the ...-24mdk yet? Any other way of doing this, that I may not be aware 
of (in today's mcc world, I may have lost touch with the automation 
processing, and - perhaps - there is an automatic compilation based on 
existing - somehow identified - configuration, which would do everything 
without the need for make menuconfig and baby steps?!?)?

Thx,
Stef




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[expert] Setting up firewall

2003-02-07 Thread Vahur Lokk
Hello!

Plan is simple - to set up a firewall. It will probably also serve as 
mailserver later. It has no cdrom and preferably no monitor.

Is it possible to do all the install from the cd-s on my workstation, without 
touching the box under my desk? 

Sorry, I remember vaguely having seen similar thread either here or in newbie 
but could not find it in archives. All the RTFM links welcome :-))

Wahur


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RE: [expert] Setting up firewall

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Wideman
Ye, FTP install. But you will still need a monitor connected to it to
install it.
Rob

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 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [expert] Setting up firewall


 Hello!

 Plan is simple - to set up a firewall. It will probably also serve as
 mailserver later. It has no cdrom and preferably no monitor.

 Is it possible to do all the install from the cd-s on my
 workstation, without
 touching the box under my desk?

 Sorry, I remember vaguely having seen similar thread either here
 or in newbie
 but could not find it in archives. All the RTFM links welcome :-))

 Wahur





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Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem - resolved in OO

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I submitted a bug report to openoffice.org about this problem and it has now 
been resolved in the latest build.  There was a bug in the code that allowed 
for/created an empty OLE object on one of the slides and this prevented the 
export.  It has been corrected in the latest build of OO, which makes the 
frame around the empty OLE object visable so it can be deleted.  Once 
deleted, the presentation saves as powerpoint just fine.

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Re: [expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Friday 07 February 2003 08:14 am, stefmit wrote:
[...]
 busybox: unresolved symbol drop_super_Rc64cc0dd4
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k reiserfs, errno=2
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k freereiserfs, errno=2
 kernel panic: no init found ...

Well, well. You are experiencing the same problem I ran into with any 2.4.20 
kernel.  Originally I was having problems with XFS, getting the same errors 
as above but referring to XFS.  I then found that the XFS module was DOA wrt 
to gcc 3.2.  I switched my system to ReiserFS and tried again.  Same error 
you get above.  I am not using a 2.4.20 kernel, and have instead retained my 
8.2 custom kernel built with gcc-2.96.  If built with gcc3.2, it too goes 
looney the way your kernel is.  

You could try building with gcc-2.96, a proven workhorse.  Or you could use 
the solid 8.2 kernel (2.4.18) and still build it with gcc-2.96 but have a 
fully working kernel.

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Re: [expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread et
make mrproper?


On Friday 07 February 2003 08:14 am, stefmit wrote:
 Hi, everyone,

 Please bare with me - have not compiled a new kernel since the days of 1st
 edition of Yggdrasil ;( - so - just recently got the new ...-24mdk source
 from the updates, happily installed the source from the rpm, and -
 confident in my ability of getting in trouble - got into the source
 directory and did carry out the standard compilation, using as a
 refresher:

 http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/Updating_a_Kernel.html
 and
 http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/20_Steps_to_a_New_Kernel_wit
h_Grub.html

 I have tweaked the above to be able to salvage the old stuff - just
 backups of all my stuff, nothing to mess the new compilation, though (which
 is why I am still able to boot and send you this message), but my new stuff
 totally failed me, and here is what I get scrolling by my screen, when
 booting into the new kernel:

 busybox: unresolved symbol drop_super_Rc64cc0dd4
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k reiserfs, errno=2
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k freereiserfs, errno=2
 kernel panic: no init found ...

 and that's it.

 I know I compiled everything with the same options I had in the original
 distro installation ... so - does anybody have a pointer for me? Have you
 done the ...-24mdk yet? Any other way of doing this, that I may not be
 aware of (in today's mcc world, I may have lost touch with the automation
 processing, and - perhaps - there is an automatic compilation based on
 existing - somehow identified - configuration, which would do everything
 without the need for make menuconfig and baby steps?!?)?

 Thx,
 Stef



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Re: [expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread Rolf Pedersen
stefmit wrote:

Hi, everyone,

Please bare with me - have not compiled a new kernel since the days of 1st 
edition of Yggdrasil ;( - so - just recently got the new ...-24mdk source 
from the updates, happily installed the source from the rpm, and - confident 
in my ability of getting in trouble - got into the source directory and did 
carry out the standard compilation, using as a refresher:

http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/Updating_a_Kernel.html
and
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/20_Steps_to_a_New_Kernel_with_Grub.html

I have tweaked the above to be able to salvage the old stuff - just backups 
of all my stuff, nothing to mess the new compilation, though (which is why I 
am still able to boot and send you this message), but my new stuff totally 
failed me, and here is what I get scrolling by my screen, when booting into 
the new kernel:

busybox: unresolved symbol drop_super_Rc64cc0dd4
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k reiserfs, errno=2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k freereiserfs, errno=2
kernel panic: no init found ... 

and that's it.

I know I compiled everything with the same options I had in the original 
distro installation ... so - does anybody have a pointer for me? Have you 
done the ...-24mdk yet? Any other way of doing this, that I may not be aware 
of (in today's mcc world, I may have lost touch with the automation 
processing, and - perhaps - there is an automatic compilation based on 
existing - somehow identified - configuration, which would do everything 
without the need for make menuconfig and baby steps?!?)?

Thx,
Stef



The process that has worked a number of times for me is more automated. 
 Maybe there will be something you could use.  It follows the procedure 
at MUO: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade3.html
Basically, what I do is:

1. Install sources (tarball, rpm)
2. cd /usr/src/linux
3. make mrproper
4. make xconfig
5. load config file = /boot/config (This is how the current kernel was 

   compiled.  Don't know how this differs from .config)
6. Make small number of adjustments
7. make dep  make clean  make bzImage  make modules
8. make modules_install  make install

The kernel install script installs the kernel in /boot, mkinitrd 
--ifneeded, changes links in /boot to point to the new kernel, modifies 
the bootloader with an entry for the previous kernel.  This is how I 
remember it; I always check /boot and usually have the bootloader on a 
different install, so I manually check the sanity, at least.  The most 
recent kernel I did this for was 2.4.20-ac1, as I needed to build 
kernels for my hpt372 controller but the ac patches that allow this 
controller to work for me have been incorporated in the newer Mandrake 
kernels in cooker.

Rolf


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[expert] Re: Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread stefmit
Item 6. in one of the two materials I mentioned in my original email:

http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Compiling_Kernels/20_Steps_to_a_New_Kernel_with_Grub.html

(link may be wrapped)

Shouldn't I ?!?

Thx,
Stef

On Friday 07 February 2003 07:52 am, et wrote:
 make mrproper?

snip


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Re: [expert] Module help?

2003-02-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:02 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

 Look at /etc/modules.  I think it would be ok to put them there, one per
   line, as the comments say.

Hi Rolf, thanks for the reply. Well, I tried that it with /etc/modules.conf. 
At least, I tried it with adi, not joydev.

When I did, the next time I rebooted, I lost all my Nvidia stuff and X 
wouldn't start. I lost other services as well.

Removed adi and all was well again.

I used modprobe adi

Now, I've got both adi and joydev in /etc/modules but while no errors are 
raising their ugly heads, neither do they show up in lsmod.

Any other ideas? Thanks much!

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Re: [expert] Module help?

2003-02-07 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:02 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:



Look at /etc/modules.  I think it would be ok to put them there, one per
 line, as the comments say.



Hi Rolf, thanks for the reply. Well, I tried that it with /etc/modules.conf. 
At least, I tried it with adi, not joydev.

When I did, the next time I rebooted, I lost all my Nvidia stuff and X 
wouldn't start. I lost other services as well.

Removed adi and all was well again.

I used modprobe adi

Now, I've got both adi and joydev in /etc/modules but while no errors are 
raising their ugly heads, neither do they show up in lsmod.

Any other ideas? Thanks much!


I have never used these modules.  One thing I have run into, if you edit 
a config file, say /etc/modules, and add your modules to the end:

[..]
adi
joydev

for instance, put a line feed after the last line you edit.  Without the 
newline, I have had config files fail to get read, leading to failure to 
boot in at least one case.

Those modules load here with modprobe:

adi 6232   0  (unused)
input   3456   0  [adi]
gameport1660   0  [adi]
[..]

joydev  5632   0  (unused)
input   3456   0  [joydev]
[..]

and show dependency modules.  One thing I might try is to add the 
dependencies your system shows earlier in /etc/modules.  Another 
strategy would be to modprobe adi and modprobe joydev at the bottom of 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local.  Look at /var/log/messages for error messages.


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Re: [expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread Jim C
I'ld have to second that.  I wouldn't build any kernels with gcc 3.2
It always chokes when I try to build a MOSIX kernel.  I've had no 
problems with gcc 2.96


Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
...
fully working kernel.





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[expert] Bandwidth partitioning

2003-02-07 Thread Jim C
How can I limit my roomates computer to half the bandwidth?  It's no 
biggy but she keeps forgetting to turn off Morpheus and this is a trick 
I would like to learn anyway.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:

 I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
 that as such had no obligations to be a server..

Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a
server OS.  The support timeframe will likely be 3-4 years, possibly
more.  I'm not 100% sure on this yet (not my call).

I understand doing updates yourself is a bore and PITA (oh boy do I
know!), and reinstalling a server every 18mos is also a nuisance. 
Corporate Server will alleviate this.  It will have 12-18mos between
versions, so will be a much slower pace than the main distrib (Mandrake
Linux), and should certainly meet your needs.

There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
the URL handy at the moment.

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Re: [expert] permissions for a cgi script

2003-02-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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H. Carter Harris wrote on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:08:29PM -0600 :
 
 VirtualHost 192.168.1.103
   ServerName www.xxx.com
   DocumentRoot /usr/www/vtest/htdocs
   ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/www/vtest/cgi-bin/
   Directory /usr/www/vtest/htdocs
 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
   /Directory
Directory /usr/www/vtest/cgi-bin
  Options ExecCGI -Indexes -Multiviews
  AllowOverride None
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
/Directory
 /VirtualHost

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:44 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
 
 There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
 the URL handy at the moment.

May I help:

The announcement is available at
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2409
(Beware of line breaks!)

More information on the product itself is available at
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

  There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
  the URL handy at the moment.
 
 May I help:
 
 The announcement is available at
 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2409
 (Beware of line breaks!)
 
 More information on the product itself is available at
 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server

Awesome... thanks, wobo.

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RE: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Franki
I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???

I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...

See basically, I don't need wizards and GUI stuff for the most part..

I have my standard config files.. which once I have installed a system, I
copy them accross
and my server is almost done..

To have to pay for support I'd very likely never use is abit rough..
(I bought a powerpack and never used the support portion of that either.)

I just want a basic system with the server apps, and updates for what is
installed..

chroot all around would be good, but apart from that, there isn't much else
I need.

Just to support mandrake, I would make the boss buy at least one copy, but
I'd have to try it
before we outlayed the cash.. if it isn't want I want, then no deal...
anyone in my position would
feel the same way.

I am worried that I'd have compilation issues with stuff I load, wondering
what is different between it and other packages.
wondering how compatable it is with other mandrake rpms... that sort of
stuff..
Also how it handles hardware raid, scsi drives stuff like that..

what is the word on this?  i have not even seen a list of the kernel and
package version..

Do you have any info to pass on??

Is CS2.1 the first mandrake to NOT be free software??? I ask because there
is no download version...


rgds

Franki



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates


On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:

 I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
 that as such had no obligations to be a server..

Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a
server OS.  The support timeframe will likely be 3-4 years, possibly
more.  I'm not 100% sure on this yet (not my call).

I understand doing updates yourself is a bore and PITA (oh boy do I
know!), and reinstalling a server every 18mos is also a nuisance.
Corporate Server will alleviate this.  It will have 12-18mos between
versions, so will be a much slower pace than the main distrib (Mandrake
Linux), and should certainly meet your needs.

There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
the URL handy at the moment.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:34 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 
  The announcement is available at
  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2409
  (Beware of line breaks!)
  
  More information on the product itself is available at
  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server
 
 Awesome... thanks, wobo.

Oh, it's not so hard to do, you know? Just hop over to the Mandrake
Website, see the newsflash right before your eyes and hit the link.

There are people whose job it is to provide this for the benefit of
the Mandrake users. (Hint, hint!) ;)

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread et
On Friday 07 February 2003 01:44 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:34 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
  On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
   The announcement is available at
   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2
  409 (Beware of line breaks!)
  
   More information on the product itself is available at
   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server
 
  Awesome... thanks, wobo.

 Oh, it's not so hard to do, you know? Just hop over to the Mandrake
 Website, see the newsflash right before your eyes and hit the link.

 There are people whose job it is to provide this for the benefit of
 the Mandrake users. (Hint, hint!) ;)

 wobo

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Re: [expert] Bandwidth partitioning

2003-02-07 Thread Jonathan I. Nori
Hi!

Within Morpheus you can set it to only use a certain amount of bandwidth. For the most 
part, it's fairly good about it (except that the bandwidth controls don't apply to the 
spyware/leechware portions of the program).

The only other way to do this is with an expensive router with bandwidth-control 
filters, like the ones Packeteer makes. I don't know of any free software 
implementations that will allow you to do bandwidth limiting through a standard 
mandrake (or linux of any kind) router/firewall/workstation.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:10 +0800, Franki wrote:
 I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???

Yes, read the announcement.

 I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...
 See basically, I don't need wizards and GUI stuff for the most part..

It's not about wizards, it's a corporate server pack.

 I have my standard config files.. which once I have installed a system, I
 copy them accross and my server is almost done..
 
 To have to pay for support I'd very likely never use is abit rough..
 (I bought a powerpack and never used the support portion of that either.)
 I just want a basic system with the server apps, and updates for what is
 installed..

So you don't need the Corporate Server. Buy the ProSuite. The
Corporate Server is a package consisting of the software, the support
and the access to updates and the much longer support lifetime.

 Just to support mandrake, I would make the boss buy at least one copy, but
 I'd have to try it before we outlayed the cash.. if it isn't want I
 want, then no deal... anyone in my position would feel the same way.

It's based on the current version of Mandrake Linux. Look at the
website for more information (I posted the addresses).

 what is the word on this?  i have not even seen a list of the kernel and
 package version..

Because you haven't looked for it. It's on the website
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server

 Is CS2.1 the first mandrake to NOT be free software??? I ask because there
 is no download version...

You don't understand. Mandrake Linux GPL version is the base system.
It's free and downloadable. All other products also consist of a
mixture of Free Software and commercial apps (PowerPack, ProSuite,
Corporate Server). If you define Free Software by the question whether
you can download it or not you should have a look at the GPL and some
more documents about Free Software and the GPL.

According to your definition the PowerPack and ProSuite are also not
free because you cannot download them.

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[expert] Lyx with QT frontend is out

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Atrebates
If any of you are interested, an individual on the lyx-users list build a 
Mandrake 9.0 version of Lyx with a QT frontend today and posted to the web. 

It is lovely.  If any of your are lyx users you may want to have a look.  It 
can be downloaded at 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/1.3.0

 I just installed and tested it.  Very nice...infinitely better than the old 
ugly xforms frontend.

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[expert] Lyx with QT...more

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Atrebates
Oh yeah, because of the way lyx with qt needs to be built, I installed it with 
--nodeps.  If you have kde 3.0.3 installed and qt3, then that is all that is 
necessary and you can ignore the dependency.  It works.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:10 am, Franki wrote:
 I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???

 I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...


You have done that, by trying out Mandrake's offerings.  The most stable are 
chosen and put together with wizards to aim at the W2K market with its ranks 
of point-and-click sysadmins.  Since W2K is destined for the trash heap in 
January, this is a good time to announce and give people a chance to 
strategize a switch. 

 See basically, I don't need wizards and GUI stuff for the most part..

 I have my standard config files.. which once I have installed a system, I
 copy them accross
 and my server is almost done..


Well then, you can get what you need from a ProSuite that uses the same 
packages, and then just follow the security updates.


 To have to pay for support I'd very likely never use is abit rough..
 (I bought a powerpack and never used the support portion of that either.)

 I just want a basic system with the server apps, and updates for what is
 installed..

 chroot all around would be good, but apart from that, there isn't much else
 I need.

 Just to support mandrake, I would make the boss buy at least one copy, but
 I'd have to try it
 before we outlayed the cash.. if it isn't want I want, then no deal...
 anyone in my position would
 feel the same way.

 I am worried that I'd have compilation issues with stuff I load, wondering
 what is different between it and other packages.
 wondering how compatable it is with other mandrake rpms... that sort of
 stuff..
 Also how it handles hardware raid, scsi drives stuff like that..


Well, those issues have been covered--this is proven software from Mandrake 
releases, not something new and improved.

 what is the word on this?  i have not even seen a list of the kernel and
 package version..


Kernel 2.4

 Do you have any info to pass on??

 Is CS2.1 the first mandrake to NOT be free software??? I ask because there
 is no download version...

It is a mix like most sale packages,  and it doesn't change the fact that most 
of the packages appeared in one or more download editions (with the exception 
of the wizards)

 rgds

 Franki


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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Vox

This time civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 On Friday 07 February 2003 10:10 am, Franki wrote:
 I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???

 I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...


 You have done that, by trying out Mandrake's offerings.  The most stable are 
 chosen and put together with wizards to aim at the W2K market with its ranks 
 of point-and-click sysadmins.  Since W2K is destined for the trash heap in 
 January, this is a good time to announce and give people a chance to 
 strategize a switch. 

  Since it seems like comparisons with debian are in vogue lately in
  the mdk community, here goes another one :)

  cooker = unstable
  mandrake linux = testing
  corporate server = stable

  With cooker you are in the bleeding edge and hunt the bugs. Changes hourly.
  With mandrake linux, you get a very usable system for all desktops
  and small servers, and get to hunt the non-critical bugs
  left. Changes every 6 months, bugfixes between.
  With corporate server you get the rock-stable box for a monster
  critical server, no/extremely few bugs. Change every couple of
  years, bugfixes between.

  What do you think about that? :)

  Vox

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 17:12 -0600, Vox wrote:
 
   Since it seems like comparisons with debian are in vogue lately in
   the mdk community, here goes another one :)
 
   cooker = unstable
   mandrake linux = testing
   corporate server = stable
 
   With cooker you are in the bleeding edge and hunt the bugs. Changes hourly.
   With mandrake linux, you get a very usable system for all desktops
   and small servers, and get to hunt the non-critical bugs
   left. Changes every 6 months, bugfixes between.
   With corporate server you get the rock-stable box for a monster
   critical server, no/extremely few bugs. Change every couple of
   years, bugfixes between.

   What do you think about that? :)

IMHO that tells it roughly.

cooker for the geek - no $$$ but great help for the distro
mandrake linux for the user - few $$$ but nagging all the time
corposerv for the *real* work -  demanding but brings the $$$

(Don't take that too serious)

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[expert] Where do I get rpm for MDK9 of kernel ?

2003-02-07 Thread Emerson de Mello
Hi,

I'm sorry, but I don't find the rpm of kernel without
bugs in supermount.

I try locate in http://plf.zarb.org/, but I don't have
sucess too.

Where do I get this ?


Thanks,

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Re: [expert] Where do I get rpm for MDK9 of kernel ?

2003-02-07 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Emerson de Mello wrote:

Hi,

I'm sorry, but I don't find the rpm of kernel without
bugs in supermount.

I try locate in http://plf.zarb.org/, but I don't have
sucess too.

Where do I get this ?


Thanks,

Emerson
BRAZIL



There is a 9.0 kernel update that has some fixes, including for 
supermount.  Many of the mirrors that have Mandrake files have an update 
directory.  You can get the security announcement for the kernel at the 
security updates page: 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/updates.php?dis=9.0 and 
there is a link there to a list of servers: 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php

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Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-07 Thread Michael Holt
Wednesday, civileme mused:

 The employer was too cheap to give me a separate workstation, so it was my six 
 years of work that was lost.  For the same reason, it was risky to try 
 restoring from tape though I had always done one file a month.  Anyway, the 
 tapes were stretched and dirty and the drive was unusable.
 
 I have been burning CDs since that time, even when the burns were at 1X.
 
 Civileme

Oooh!  I think I would have to smack that employer around a little!

Well, back from my original post - I googled around for some other ideas 
and end up with a simple bash script that I adjusted to fit my own needs 
and then did crontab -e for 3:45 am every morning.  I don't have 
more than 300 megs total that I'm backing up, it's just the configs, web, 
email, etc... that takes time to get back.  Anything else (mp3's, digital 
photos, programs, etc... I put on cdr's.  This stuff goes on cd/rw:

#!/bin/bash
DATA=/home /var
CONFIG=/etc
set $(date)
tar -cvf /mnt/backup/data/df$2$3.tgz $DATA
tar -cvf /mnt/backup/data/cf$2$3.tgz $CONFIG
mkisofs -o /tmp/backup.iso /mnt/backup/*
cdrecord -v blank=fast dev=0,2,0 speed=2 -eject /tmp/backup.iso
rm -f /tmp/backup.iso
rm -f /mnt/backup/data/*
rm -f /mnt/backup/config/*

So far, this seems to be doing great!  I often stay up late and fall 
asleep at the keyboard, so all I have to do is make sure I've switched 
disks in the morning and I never lose anything important.

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Re: [expert] Lyx with QT frontend is out

2003-02-07 Thread Sascha Noyes
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On Friday 07 February 2003 05:52 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 If any of you are interested, an individual on the lyx-users list build a
 Mandrake 9.0 version of Lyx with a QT frontend today and posted to the web.

 It is lovely.  If any of your are lyx users you may want to have a look. 
 It can be downloaded at
 ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/1.3.0

  I just installed and tested it.  Very nice...infinitely better than the
 old ugly xforms frontend.

 praedor

very cool. You're right that xforms interface was/is (?) just bad. Infact I 
can't think of any other app I have ever used that utilised xforms.

BTW, that url you gave above does not exist ;-(
It should read:

 ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.0

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] Lyx with QT...more

2003-02-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 February 2003 01:56 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Oh yeah, because of the way lyx with qt needs to be built, I installed it
 with --nodeps.  If you have kde 3.0.3 installed and qt3, then that is all
 that is necessary and you can ignore the dependency.  It works.

 praedor

Hmmm  the URI doesn't work

ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.0

Seems to be the one

Thanks for the info

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Re: [expert] Lyx with QT...more

2003-02-07 Thread Ken Thompson
On Friday 07 February 2003 07:19 pm, civileme wrote:
 On Friday 07 February 2003 01:56 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  Oh yeah, because of the way lyx with qt needs to be built, I installed it
  with --nodeps.  If you have kde 3.0.3 installed and qt3, then that is all
  that is necessary and you can ignore the dependency.  It works.
 
  praedor

 Hmmm  the URI doesn't work

 ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.0

 Seems to be the one

 Thanks for the info

 Civileme
Might have just been a local problem, URL opens OK for me.
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Re: [expert] Lyx with QT...more

2003-02-07 Thread Sascha Noyes
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 On Friday 07 February 2003 01:56 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  Oh yeah, because of the way lyx with qt needs to be built, I installed it
  with --nodeps.  If you have kde 3.0.3 installed and qt3, then that is all
  that is necessary and you can ignore the dependency.  It works.
 
  praedor

 Hmmm  the URI doesn't work

 ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.0

 Seems to be the one

 Thanks for the info

 Civileme

Has anyone had any luck with the spell checker? It might be due to the fact 
that I installed it on cooker, but i can't seem to get the spell checker 
working (I've got ispell and cspell installed).

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Weaver
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 01:22 am, Vincent Danen scribbled nervously:
 Well, that's just a load of crap and you know it.  I think I use my
 workstation just as hard as any Win98 user does... and it's rock solid
 for me.  Don't use the product in any user-workhorse mode?  Yeah...
 right.

 Anyways, this is something you should bring up on cooker... I doubt it
 can be accomplished for 9.1, but if no one asks for it, we dont't think
 about it or know it's important to people.  Can't be *that* important
 as this is the first I've heard of it in 3 years.  Remember, we are not
 Windows.  Ok, we may be missing some of the good features of Windows in
 some instances, but we're also missing a lot of the bad ones. 

Vincent,

Um...what good features would those be? you mean not having to reboot 
everytime one of the eh-hem...programs leaks so bad it stuffs the entire 
system, or explorer craps out and takes down the entire system. pa-Lease! 
I've been throwing everything thing I can think of and some things I've 
thought of myself that I'm rather proud of and I've only been able to totally 
freeze my Mandrake desktop bad enough that I had to do a hardboot all of two 
times. I've been running Mandrake since 7.0. ( now running Mandrake 9.0 ) 
strongest, most well thought out and best put together OS Ive ever seen, and 
I've seen a few.

In my experience you've got to try pretty damn hard to break Mandrake linux. 
For getting work done there's just no comparison between windows and Linux. 
the two of them don't even belong in the same breath let alone in the same 
ball park. and I'm not bashing windows just for the sake of it. My 
workstation at work dual boots win2K and Mandrake Linux. While I hacking out 
code for something at work I'm running Mandrake. My boss runs win98...he has 
to reboot sometimes 3-4 times...I just keep working. If I wouldn'tn have to 
interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows 
at all.

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[expert] Kernel Upgrade to 2.4.19-24

2003-02-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
I have tried twice to update the kernel from 2.4.19-16 to 2.4.20 the first
time and to 2.4.19-24 the second one.

The only problem that I am facing is that I can not get X to start. Now
(after enabling ACPI) doing shutdown -h now my machine power-off (Femme, I
know somebody said that it doesn't have anything to do with powering off,
but in my case it does), my sound card is recognized (this problem has been
a major PITA with Mandrake and this Toshiba laptop) and every service is
starting fine but the graphical environment.

Now I am absolutely clueless on what to do or where to go and will consider
installing Mandrake again just a last resource(several installs in last 2
months in the process of learning but now I have a fairly decent setup that
I don't want lose).

I started with original /boot/config and only added support to ACPI and
dropped a lot of modules, mainly ethernet cards that I don't use or need,
old disks support, radio amateur support, SMP and picked Pentium
III/Coopermine/Celeron as processor.

Upgrade was made using gcc 3.2 (after doing the upgrade I read advises
against it).

Hints, clues, tips, advises or RTFM links will be truly appreciated.

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:

  Well, that's just a load of crap and you know it.  I think I use my
  workstation just as hard as any Win98 user does... and it's rock solid
  for me.  Don't use the product in any user-workhorse mode?  Yeah...
  right.
 
  Anyways, this is something you should bring up on cooker... I doubt it
  can be accomplished for 9.1, but if no one asks for it, we dont't think
  about it or know it's important to people.  Can't be *that* important
  as this is the first I've heard of it in 3 years.  Remember, we are not
  Windows.  Ok, we may be missing some of the good features of Windows in
  some instances, but we're also missing a lot of the bad ones. 
 
 Vincent,
 
 Um...what good features would those be? you mean not having to reboot 

Well, I dual-boot one machine for the express purpose of playing EverQuest
when time allows (maybe once or twice a week).  So Win2k is good for that.
I figure if I don't install anything else, I might be able to get away
without doing a reinstall for a year... =)

 everytime one of the eh-hem...programs leaks so bad it stuffs the entire 
 system, or explorer craps out and takes down the entire system. pa-Lease! 
 I've been throwing everything thing I can think of and some things I've 
 thought of myself that I'm rather proud of and I've only been able to totally 
 freeze my Mandrake desktop bad enough that I had to do a hardboot all of two 
 times. I've been running Mandrake since 7.0. ( now running Mandrake 9.0 ) 
 strongest, most well thought out and best put together OS Ive ever seen, and 
 I've seen a few.

Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff occassionally.

 In my experience you've got to try pretty damn hard to break Mandrake linux. 
 For getting work done there's just no comparison between windows and Linux. 
 the two of them don't even belong in the same breath let alone in the same 
 ball park. and I'm not bashing windows just for the sake of it. My 
 workstation at work dual boots win2K and Mandrake Linux. While I hacking out 
 code for something at work I'm running Mandrake. My boss runs win98...he has 
 to reboot sometimes 3-4 times...I just keep working. If I wouldn'tn have to 
 interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows 
 at all.

Yup.  I would be Win-free, except for EverQuest.  I hear it's coming out for
the Mac soon, which would be great, except the Mac version won't be able to
interact with the Win version, meaning separate servers.  Meaning starting
all over again.  =(  I'll keep my 5GB Win2k partition specifically to play
it.  My Wintendo, as it were.

So there is *one* good thing about Windows, for me.  =)

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:47, Vincent Danen wrote:
 
 Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
 twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff occassionally.

You know, I can probably count on two hands the number of times my Linux
boxes have crashed for something other than hardware. I've been using
Linux for something like 7 years so this equates to a little more than a
single crash every year. That is about right.

At my former company the MDK 7.1 server was recently brought down
accidentally after almost 18 months of uptime (someone was ssh'ed in and
ran an init 0 on the wrong shell).  Not bad.

There's a joke that goes something like this:

What's the difference between Windows and Linux developers?

On hearing that a machine achieves 99.9% uptime, a Windows developer
will put this in their marketing, congratulate themselves and throw a
party in celebration.

A Linux developer will try to determine what went wrong.

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening, everyone...

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:47 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:

  In my experience you've got to try pretty damn hard to break Mandrake
  linux. For getting work done there's just no comparison between windows
  and Linux. the two of them don't even belong in the same breath let alone
  in the same ball park. and I'm not bashing windows just for the sake of
  it. My workstation at work dual boots win2K and Mandrake Linux. While I
  hacking out code for something at work I'm running Mandrake. My boss runs
  win98...he has to reboot sometimes 3-4 times...I just keep working. If I
  wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to
  boot back into windows at all.

I was going to simply let this thread slide on by my workstation and keep my
mouth shut, as it's Friday, and I am exhausted after a 60+ hour week. Then I
remembered my little chart, and after finding it in the archive directory,
and reviewing the results of nearly two years of comparitive studies and
constant testing, particularly with regard to Windows XP versus Mandrake 9.0,
I simply *had* to say something. 

Between a huge volume of e-mail, plus constant involvement in various other
writing projects, programming in Perl and Delphi and various other forms of
database development, I would say I probably am as hard on a workstation as
anyone else. For a fortunately brief period of time each year, I have
performed quality analyses on two other workstations powered by Microsoft
products and my own workstation running Mandrake. There is *not* a year but
what the Mandrake box has handily won, but this year neither of the XP boxes
stood a chance when it came to the race for efficiency. 

Here is a tiny sample:

Current Uptime:  Windows 2 days 6 hoursMandrake 14 months 9 days
Mean average:   Windows 2+ days  Mandrake 13 months+
Last forced reboot   Windows 2 days  Mandrake NEVER
Time consumed in last patch/upgrade:
Windows 3.2 hours   Mandrake .75 hours (45 mins)
Viruses/worms   Windows (2) Mandrake 0
Catastrophic faults Windows 9   Mandrake 0
(failures which required user intervention and loss of use)

Here's an anomaly that stands out:

Most productive version of each brand:
Windows 98
Mandrake 8.2 and up

I keep the Windows machines running only because the corporate databases are
written entirely in FoxBase, but we are slowly beginning to phase that out in
favor of Kylix, which means within the next year database development will be
moved entirely to Mandrake workstations. 

To be politically-correct, I am not here to bash Windows. However, given the
number of times the Windows boxes have been patched and upgraded, I still
cannot seem to do better than 2 or 3 days uptime before one or both of them
crash or require a reboot. 

Dave
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Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project 
Web Page:   http://www.kharma.net updated 01/20/2003
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An automatic  random thought For the Minute:
You are WRONG, you ol' brass-breasted fascist poop!
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