Re: [expert] Shutdown/reboot for users

2003-07-26 Thread Luis Duran
Maybe i am a lot confuse, or my bad english lost me in your request, but
try with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 or F3 to start a pure text shell session,
login as root and execute the drakconf utility, maybe you can find
something usefull inside (i understand you can not even see your kde
desktop), probably the problem begun when you shutdown your PC and your
box is not an ATX Case or motherboard, i did face this problem a time
ago with mdk 9.1 but i fix this with the operation i told you above.
Pale, good luck and may the force be with you.

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> I recently had to replace a hdd due to failure and reinstalled 9.1.  After 
> initial bootup and login to KDE, when I was finished and clicked the logout 
> button, I got the nice dragon combo box with 3 options in it:  logout, 
> reboot, shutdown.  After this one time, this box no longer comes up and all I 
> can do is logout.  Worse, after logout, I cannot select the reboot button in 
> KDM unless I am root.  
> 
> I want to be able to shutdown/reboot the system myself, both from within a 
> session and from KDM.  How do I get this ability back?  I am the only user on 
> this box.
> 
> praedor
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[expert] advice please postfix ect.

2003-07-26 Thread Richard Bown
Hi 
I have a mjor problem with e-mail here, and its nothing to do with
Mandrake9.1.
Since my ISP has really got into bed with microyuk, their POP3 server 
can take anything up to 10 mins to authenticate the password.

so Evolution keeps asking for the password, and gets it knickers in a
right twist as I check for new mail every 10 mins.it always recovers in
the end :)

So what I'm trying to do is bypass my ISP on incoming mail.
I do have a dynamic address as I'm on cable here.

About 10% of my mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is then
redirected to my ISP and I POP it from their site, that e-mail address
also get spammed badly by porn sites at times. I use the mail filters to
catch most of it, but some still gets thru.


So wht Ive done so far:-

Installed postfix, set up an account on dyndns pointing to this machine


What I want to do is divert the subscribe list mail , which is about 98%
of incoming via the dyndns alias to port25 ,so postfix accepts it.
As the smtp server on my ISP seems to behave I can deliver outgoing mail
to that.

The incoming mail is the bit I'm stuck on.

Getting mail that postfix has acceptted delivered to my mail client
"Evolution".

Do I need to install a pop server to interface between postfix and
evolution ?


I know this is a bit of a daft question to some, but with most things
linux the first time trying to get something to work without help is an
uphill struggle.


TIA
Richard

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Re: [expert] Copying a file across NFS

2003-07-26 Thread Rob Blomquist

> > > > I am seeing a lot of collisions at my hub and in ifconfig. Is it
> > > > possible that I have a NIC going bad? Or might there be another
> > > > reason? I have 8.0 Gb free on the drive recieving the file.
> > >
> > > Are you having trouble with all files or just the iso's.  I think we
> > > need to determine if the problem has anything to do with the size of
> > > the file.
> >
> > It is just the isos, I have copied kernel-2.4.24.tar.gz to the same
> > directory and its about 30Mb and it moves sucessfully.
> >
> > Usually the problem crops up when 30-100Mb are copied over. I have had
> > 30, 80 and 100 Mb incomplete files on the server when it quits.
>
> Are you seeing any errors in your logs?  what does the exports file of the
> server, and the fstab file of the client look like?

Well, I rebooted the server, and it was able to move the 650 Mb without 
choking, but with almost constant errors. I will burn out my orange LED on 
the hub soon if this keeps up.

from fstab on the client:
cartman:/mnt/share /home/robbo/share nfs auto,user,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft 
0 0

from the server:
/mnt/share  *(rw,no_root_squash)

And there don't appear to be any kernel messages about this.

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Re: [expert] Copying a file across NFS

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 26 July 2003 10:41 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Saturday 26 July 2003 04:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:58 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > I am seeing a lot of collisions at my hub and in ifconfig. Is it
> > > possible that I have a NIC going bad? Or might there be another reason?
> > > I have 8.0 Gb free on the drive recieving the file.
> >
> > Are you having trouble with all files or just the iso's.  I think we need
> > to determine if the problem has anything to do with the size of the file.
>
> It is just the isos, I have copied kernel-2.4.24.tar.gz to the same
> directory and its about 30Mb and it moves sucessfully.
>
> Usually the problem crops up when 30-100Mb are copied over. I have had 30,
> 80 and 100 Mb incomplete files on the server when it quits.
>
Are you seeing any errors in your logs?  what does the exports file of the 
server, and the fstab file of the client look like?
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Re: [expert] Realtek 8139

2003-07-26 Thread John Haywood
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:32 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 21:57, John Haywood wrote:
> > gcc -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c rtl8139.c
> > -I/usr/src/linux/include -include
> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h
> >
> > and for the pci-scan module:
> >
> > cc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c
> > pci-scan.c -I/usr/src/linux/include -include
> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h
> >
> > Now the insmod on the pci-scan works, but fails on the rtl8139.o
> > ...any thoughts?
>
> What are the errors on insmod?  Did you strip the modules before
> loading?

insmod rtl8139.o
rtl8139.o: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
  You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg

OK .. from dmesg:

pci-scan.c:v1.11 8/31/2002  Donald Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
http://www.scyld.com/linux/drivers.html
rtl8139.c:v1.23 3/10/2003 Donald Becker, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.scyld.com/network/rtl8139.html

strip?

Unfortunately I can´t take the network down right now (to reload everything), 
so ´ll have to wait til tomorrow to see if a net restart does the trick
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Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw

2003-07-26 Thread dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw

>So thought I'd try the MP3 to audio procedure. Opened a new audio
>project and drag 'n drop 19 MP3's and started the burn. I did uncheck

I tried the same thing. Well I got error messages from k3b in that it
couldn't decode the uudio. So I reverted to a 'mpg123' for decoding
and sox to turn it into a wav -- procedure. I dragged and dropped the
wav's to k3b and it bombed in the middle of burning the CD. And
I couldn't get the CD to stop.

I had a bunch of twilight zone audio mp3s to rip and so I went back to
using cdrecord with a number of wav files method. I got it done - five
cd's worth, and one or maybe two coasters.

I'd probably expect less from k3b due to the fact that this is a fairly
hodgepodge 9.0 piecemeal upgrade cooker. If or when I get to doing a
reinstall with cooker/9.2 maybe it will work better.

But not finding the mp3 converter has me puzzled. I have mpg123, lame, 
xine (mostly) and mencoder/mplayer installed. k3b setup only finds a
few missing things, like emovix and normalize. Everything else is present.

>"on the fly" box so as to rip the mp3 to wave files before burning the
>audio disk.
>
>This procedure worked flawlessly.
>
>Conclusion: K3b Works...
>
>Larry

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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread Todd Lyons
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David E Fox wanted us to know:

>installing a new DVD/CDRW combo drive last weekend. I rebooted the
>system (which had been rebooted before, successfully) and the system
>hung completely at "finding module dependencies" (I think).

My cooker box did the same thing a couple weeks ago.  Only way to get a
good bootup was failsafe mode.  It gets better, I promise :)  This
probably better belongs in Cooker ML.
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Re: [expert] Copying a file across NFS

2003-07-26 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 26 July 2003 04:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:58 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > I am seeing a lot of collisions at my hub and in ifconfig. Is it possible
> > that I have a NIC going bad? Or might there be another reason? I have 8.0
> > Gb free on the drive recieving the file.
>
> Are you having trouble with all files or just the iso's.  I think we need
> to determine if the problem has anything to do with the size of the file.

It is just the isos, I have copied kernel-2.4.24.tar.gz to the same directory 
and its about 30Mb and it moves sucessfully.

Usually the problem crops up when 30-100Mb are copied over. I have had 30, 80 
and 100 Mb incomplete files on the server when it quits.

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Re: [expert] Realtek 8139

2003-07-26 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 21:57, John Haywood wrote:

> gcc -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c rtl8139.c 
> -I/usr/src/linux/include -include /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h
> 
> and for the pci-scan module:
> 
> cc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c 
> pci-scan.c -I/usr/src/linux/include -include 
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h
> 
> Now the insmod on the pci-scan works, but fails on the rtl8139.o
> ...any thoughts?

What are the errors on insmod?  Did you strip the modules before
loading?


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Re: [expert] reading dvd (again)

2003-07-26 Thread John Haywood
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:26 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:19, dfox wrote:
> > followup
> >
> > of course it helps to link /dev/dvd to /dev/scd0
>
> uh, er, yeah, that was going to be number 4...

or, in devfs land...

/dev/dvd -> scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:17:17 -0600 Ken Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > Been playing with opera; but I still haven't decided which browser
> > sucks the least -- none are good.
> Pierre,
> Have you tried Kget integrated into Konqueror??? Pretty durn nice..

I'm thinking of going back to basics...  you know, the stuff before the
'net was rape^H^H^Hpopularized...  ftp, teln^H^H^H^Hssh,
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Re: [expert] Realtek 8139

2003-07-26 Thread John Haywood
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:21 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
> Ensure you are not using the '8139too' driver. Its a little buggy and this
> shows during high bandwidth usage. BTW Donald Becker is THE linux network
> card driver guru, this site is predominantly based on his work and explains
> where i am coming from. http://www.scyld.com/network/rtl8139.html
>
> This may or may not help. I know my experience with the '8139too' left a
> nasty taste.

... the link on the site to the SRPM´s is bogus, and the compilation of the 
module by hand from his source is a bit obscure. So for the record, here is 
how I finally managed to compile for a non-cardbus card (all on one line):

gcc -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c rtl8139.c 
-I/usr/src/linux/include -include /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h

and for the pci-scan module:

cc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c 
pci-scan.c -I/usr/src/linux/include -include 
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h

Now the insmod on the pci-scan works, but fails on the rtl8139.o
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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
> It sounds like you installed the kernel rpm in rescue mode.  When you do
> that, it grabs the current kernel commandline and attempts to keep all

That may explain what happened. You might know that originally I managed
to hose (or I think I did) my /dev/hdb7 install which was cooker, when
installing a new DVD/CDRW combo drive last weekend. I rebooted the
system (which had been rebooted before, successfully) and the system
hung completely at "finding module dependencies" (I think).

I couldn't boot /dev/hdb7 so I installed mandrake 9.0 on /dev/hdb6. Then
I had to install all the missing things (only had one CD of that) just
to get to the point where I could burn CDs. I managed to download all
three 9.1 ISOs and burn them. I started to reinstall 9.1, and the
box locked up solidly just before the "exit install" step. 

So, back to square 1. I tried other things too, and that's maybe when 
I screwed up. ATM, /dev/hdb6 has a 9.0 that's been partially upgraded
to cooker. /dev/hdb7 still exists, I just can't boot it, but it'll 
probably not work since /var has been rebuilt since then (/dev/hda1)
so /var/lib/rpm and so forth are way out of sync with respect to
what's on /dev/hdb7. So I might as well stick it out with what I have,
at least until I have a stable enough cooker from which to burn from. (I
mirror usually 2x a day with wget from ftp.sunet.se.) And everything else,
I get via urpmi.

(James has been helpful I'll admit -- thanks James)...

Now ATM I have a working setup - the CD issue seems to have fixed
itself, dunno why. But I can only boot in failsafe mode. Otherwise,
I get either 1) same issue with respect to the hang at module dependencies
or 2) can't find the root filesystem. Once failsafe boots, telinit 3 can
bring up the rest of the system, and then I can startx.

So - moral - don't reboot :). 

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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread Todd Lyons
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>I think I found a problem in /etc/lilo.conf
>Originally I had /dev/ram3 in the 2.4.19-35 image, and that
>didn't work. Also I noticed boot= set to /dev/hda, which is

It sounds like you installed the kernel rpm in rescue mode.  When you do
that, it grabs the current kernel commandline and attempts to keep all
the stuff it thinks it needs to.  It seems that it grabbed the
components used to boot into rescue mode instead of figuring out which
settings it needs from the lilo.conf file.  I can't blame anybody for
that as that could be insanely difficult, but it probably ought to be
tweaked a little to not use the ramdisk and initrd settings from rescue
mode.  I'm cc'ing this to gc and pixel for that.
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Ken Thompson
On Saturday 26 July 2003 02:53 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:17:16 +1000 charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:01 am, Pierre Fortin wholly or partly mentioned
> >
> > :-
> > :
> > > If there's a way to override this behaviour, it's not obvious and/or
> > > I'm too pissed to find it...
> >
> > I am uncertain if I understand your problem Pierre but I am using
> > Mozilla-1.3-1mdk and have done in :- Edit/Preferences/Downloads enabled
> > Open download manager. Is that what you want? That way every time that I
> > download anything I have choice of any partition and directory. Select
> > it and leave it do its work.
> >
> > It is done manually of course, Download Manager does choose the last
> > partition or directory that I downloaded into as default but just a
> > quick click and another is selected. Give the file or image it any name
> > that you choose with or without the file extension, thus allowing you to
> > better find it if you really do forget where you placed it.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Charlie.
>
> I salvaged my downloads, except for the 330M that died, by stopping one of
> the remaining downloads and resuming it with ftp's reget.
>
> When the download manager opens, no matter what you tell it, it still
> insists on using /tmp for the download, and IF that completes, it's moved
> to the specified location -- *that* is the STOOPID problem; not to mention
> that it totally misses the fact that *it* is doing multiple downloads and
> fails to realize that 1G+ just won't fit into 900M even if each d/l would
> on its own...
>
> The only reason I'm using moz is that galeon totally lost my respect when
> its config was moved out of the app into gnome IIRC.
>
> Been playing with opera; but I still haven't decided which browser sucks
> the least -- none are good.
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Re: [expert] Shutdown/reboot for users

2003-07-26 Thread Todd Lyons
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Praedor Atrebates wanted us to know:

>initial bootup and login to KDE, when I was finished and clicked the logout 
>button, I got the nice dragon combo box with 3 options in it:  logout, 
>reboot, shutdown.  After this one time, this box no longer comes up and all I 
>can do is logout.  Worse, after logout, I cannot select the reboot button in 
>KDM unless I am root.  

Disable the autologin feature.
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Re: [expert] Copying a file across NFS

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:58 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I am seeing a lot of collisions at my hub and in ifconfig. Is it possible
> that I have a NIC going bad? Or might there be another reason? I have 8.0
> Gb free on the drive recieving the file.

Are you having trouble with all files or just the iso's.  I think we need to 
determine if the problem has anything to do with the size of the file.
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[expert] 25mdk kernel.

2003-07-26 Thread James Sparenberg
Juan and Vincent.

   So far, so very good.  Works better than 18mdk in that I've got sound
with it *grin*  As for what can be done in addition.  I've gotten both
the ck2 patch and win4lin installed into it and rebuilt the kernel.  All
seems to work.  All in all. I'd say it is a solid build.  Note that I
did this with the stock build not enterprise or smp so don't know on
them.  Woo H.  I was even able to build the shfs modules against
it and I'm using them as well right now.  

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Re: [expert] kioslave audiocd:// not working anymore

2003-07-26 Thread Larry Sword
Jeremy Gregorio wrote:

   It's weird. All the options for audiocd:/ disapeared from Konqueror 
and the control center. They just weren't there. I finally got brave 
and grabed the tex kde 3.1.2 rpms with rpmdrake, and it's working 
again. I'd like to know what caused it to stop, but at least it's 
working now :). Still, very weird behavior. I'll have to check 
mandrake.com and see if there's a bug report.  Thanks again Larry for 
all your help.

Jeremy Gregorio


Yep, you're welcome. Sometimes strange and unexplainable things happen..

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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
> 
>   Try this move /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bkp
> 
> then create a new lilo.conf this way

Hmm. I tried something along those lines and still had the
same issue. 2419-35 boots in vga mode and tries to find the
root partition, then panics. 'linux' starts up but can't get
past the fixing module dependencies stage.. I still haven't been able
to sort that out. 'failsafe' works; at least i can get up to telinit
3.

About the cdrw - seems ok now, after a power cycle. The drive would
just sit there with the drive light on when I inserted a blank 
cdr and not when I inserted a written CD. 

So now I'm burning yet another CD. k3b managed to choke and burn
and that was the start of the trouble.

I can't for the life of me -- at least not yet -- figure out the
issue with respect to the fixing module dependencies step... :( it
would be nice to know wtf is going on at that point. It was the
reason why I "lost" /dev/hdb7, my more or less up to date cooker
with all the goodies :).

I'm gonna save off this message and compare it to the existing
/etc/lilo.conf.


David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 13:03, David E Fox wrote:
> I think I found a problem in /etc/lilo.conf
> 
> Originally I had /dev/ram3 in the 2.4.19-35 image, and that
> didn't work. Also I noticed boot= set to /dev/hda, which is
> /var, and my boot is on /dev/hdb. However, I have a boot.0300
> file. I'm going to switch it back to /dev/hda for now. I think
> my lilo is stored in /dev/hda for some reason, and I don't want
> to fiddle.
> 
> The only thing I can think of to explain the 'finding module dependencies'
> issue is the presence of 'append devfs=nomount' vs 'yes' in the appended
> lilo.conf. One stanza says yes (mount), the other says no. But does that
> explain not being able to use the cdrecorder?
> 
> And I was incorrect on the kernel issue. Apparently both are using linux
> 2.4.19-35mdk, since vmlinuz points there. I've set it up so that one will
> boot 2.4.19-16, the other 2.4.19-35. But I don't think that will make
> much difference.
> 
> I'll try and reboot the 'linux' image now and report back.
> 
> 
> boot=/dev/hdb
> map=/boot/map
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> prompt
> nowarn
> timeout=100
> message=/boot/message
> menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk
>   label=linux
>   root=/dev/hdb6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi"
>   read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=failsafe
>   root=/dev/hdb6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
>   read-only
> other=/dev/fd0
>   label=floppy
>   unsafe
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-35mdk
>   label=2419-35
>   root=/dev/hdb6
>   read-only
>   optional
>   vga=788
>   append=" initrd=alt0/all.rdz ramdisk_size=32000 "
>   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-35mdk.img
> 

David,

  Try this move /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bkp

then create a new lilo.conf this way

boot=/dev/hdb
map=/boot/map
default=linux
vga=788
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img
append="devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-35mdk
label=2419-35
root=/dev/hdb6
read-only
append="devfs=nmount hdc=ide-scsi"
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-35mdk.img

Then run lilo and try your reboot into one of the regular kernels.  

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread John Wilson
On July 26, 2003 09:57 am, Bill Mullen wrote:

>
> AIUI, the Konqueror rendering engine is called KHTML, and has also been
> used as the basis for Apple's OS X web browser, Safari ...
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6565
> http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcore/index.html

 {Hangs my head in shame} :-)

Thanks!

ttfn

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:17:16 +1000 charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:01 am, Pierre Fortin wholly or partly mentioned
> :-
> > If there's a way to override this behaviour, it's not obvious and/or
> > I'm too pissed to find it...
> 
> I am uncertain if I understand your problem Pierre but I am using 
> Mozilla-1.3-1mdk and have done in :- Edit/Preferences/Downloads enabled
> Open download manager. Is that what you want? That way every time that I
> download anything I have choice of any partition and directory. Select
> it and leave it do its work.
> 
> It is done manually of course, Download Manager does choose the last
> partition or directory that I downloaded into as default but just a
> quick click and another is selected. Give the file or image it any name
> that you choose with or without the file extension, thus allowing you to
> better find it if you really do forget where you placed it.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Charlie.

I salvaged my downloads, except for the 330M that died, by stopping one of
the remaining downloads and resuming it with ftp's reget.

When the download manager opens, no matter what you tell it, it still
insists on using /tmp for the download, and IF that completes, it's moved
to the specified location -- *that* is the STOOPID problem; not to mention
that it totally misses the fact that *it* is doing multiple downloads and
fails to realize that 1G+ just won't fit into 900M even if each d/l would
on its own...

The only reason I'm using moz is that galeon totally lost my respect when
its config was moved out of the app into gnome IIRC.

Been playing with opera; but I still haven't decided which browser sucks
the least -- none are good.






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[expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
I think I found a problem in /etc/lilo.conf

Originally I had /dev/ram3 in the 2.4.19-35 image, and that
didn't work. Also I noticed boot= set to /dev/hda, which is
/var, and my boot is on /dev/hdb. However, I have a boot.0300
file. I'm going to switch it back to /dev/hda for now. I think
my lilo is stored in /dev/hda for some reason, and I don't want
to fiddle.

The only thing I can think of to explain the 'finding module dependencies'
issue is the presence of 'append devfs=nomount' vs 'yes' in the appended
lilo.conf. One stanza says yes (mount), the other says no. But does that
explain not being able to use the cdrecorder?

And I was incorrect on the kernel issue. Apparently both are using linux
2.4.19-35mdk, since vmlinuz points there. I've set it up so that one will
boot 2.4.19-16, the other 2.4.19-35. But I don't think that will make
much difference.

I'll try and reboot the 'linux' image now and report back.


boot=/dev/hdb
map=/boot/map
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-35mdk
label=2419-35
root=/dev/hdb6
read-only
optional
vga=788
append=" initrd=alt0/all.rdz ramdisk_size=32000 "
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-35mdk.img

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[expert] Re: TMOUT + PATH

2003-07-26 Thread Björn Lundin
Todd Lyons wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/profile.d]$ grep TMOUT *
> msec.csh:if ( ${?TMOUT} ) then
> msec.csh:set autologout=`expr $TMOUT / 60`
> msec.sh:[ -n "$TMOUT" ] && typeset -r TMOUT
> 
> What you could do is comment out that line, which will make it not be
> readonly any more, but honestly it is not the correct answer IMHO.

Thanks, I should have thought of it myself. I did comment out the line
and it looks better now.

The path though, having '/usr//bin' and the '::' is still a mystery to me.
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[expert] cdrecorder not working 2.19.35.

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
Help

It seems after going from telinit1 to telinit3 on my previous 
problem leaves the CD-RW (Toshiba SD 1312) unable to record a
CD.

I'm getting this from cdrecord -checkdrive:

scsidev: '1,2,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 2 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'TOSHIBA '
Identifikation : 'DVD-ROM SD-R1312'
Revision   : '1011'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R

Yet when I try and burn a cd: Note this was working with my
default linux 2.4.19 (rev 16?) boot 'linux' but that won't boot
because of the fixing module dependencies problem. This is from
failsafe, which made it through that step.

scsidev: '1,2,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 2 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'TOSHIBA '
Identifikation : 'DVD-ROM SD-R1312'
Revision   : '1011'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 57 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x57 Qual 0x00 (unable to recover table-of-contents) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s
cdrecord: CD/DVD-Recorder not ready.


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[expert] boot failure

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
I did it again.. had to reboot. Mixed 9.0 cooker hodgepodge after
1 week of installing stuff and having to rebuild this box.

1) first thing - k3b 0.9 crashed in the midst of burning a CD,
coastered, naturally - but the cdrw light was still on. I couldn't 
eject, cdrecord said there was a long write in progress, I waited
for a long time, and still couldn't manage to get the CDR out of
the drive. So I rebooted.

2) Upon reboot, similar issue to what I experienced last week - the
system hung in the middle of "updating module dependencies" step. 
My other boot selection (linux-2.4.19-35) is stuck trying to boot from my
swap partition (01:03)... which is not going to be of use.

3) Failsafe worked, got me into telinit 1. I just tried telinit 3 and
got into the box that way, but that doesn't seem to be the best
way to do things.



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Re: [expert] RPM binary doesn't seem to be working

2003-07-26 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Rick Salsa wrote:
Hi,

I've come across something that I haven't seen before, but my RPM binary
doesn't seem to work. If I try to install or upgrade any RPMs, it just
sits and doesn't do anything.
rpm -qa, rpm --help, and rpm --version work, but that's it. I tried rpm
--list to see if the last rpm installed might have done something, but
that doesn't work either. Any ideas on what might be up or how to fix
this? Mandrake 8.2
Thanks,
/rick
When an rpm process seems to be hanging, what I would do (with no rpm 
process running):

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*
rpm --rebuilddb
It is fairly common for the database to get mucked up by these files, 
which seem to be left behind when an rpm process is exited uncleanly.

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[expert] Copying a file across NFS

2003-07-26 Thread Rob Blomquist
I am having trouble copying a file across an NFS connection that has been 
around for awhile.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] robbo]$ cp --verbose Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso 
share/computer/iso/
cp: overwrite `share/computer/iso/Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso'? y
`Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso' -> 
`share/computer/iso/Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso'
cp: writing `share/computer/iso/Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso': Input/output 
error

I am seeing a lot of collisions at my hub and in ifconfig. Is it possible that 
I have a NIC going bad? Or might there be another reason? I have 8.0 Gb free 
on the drive recieving the file.

Rob
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Bill Mullen
John Wilson said:
> On July 26, 2003 08:32 am, Jack Coates wrote:
>> On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 22:27, John Wilson wrote:
>
>>
>> not to pick nits in your otherwise correct guidance, but Konqueror is
>> not Mozilla based -- they wrote their own browser more or less from
>> scratch.
>
> I seem to remember that they use the rendering engine, though I could be
>  wrong.   That a lot of the code around the rendering engine is
> different (and  often far better) goes without saying :-)

AIUI, the Konqueror rendering engine is called KHTML, and has also been
used as the basis for Apple's OS X web browser, Safari ...

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6565
http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcore/index.html

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread John Wilson
On July 26, 2003 08:32 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 22:27, John Wilson wrote:

>
> not to pick nits in your otherwise correct guidance, but Konqueror is
> not Mozilla based -- they wrote their own browser more or less from
> scratch.

I seem to remember that they use the rendering engine, though I could be 
wrong.   That a lot of the code around the rendering engine is different (and 
often far better) goes without saying :-)

> Oh, and http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to to you to :-)

Now that's an interesting, well stated, very true and timely rant.  Thanks!

ttfn

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 22:27, John Wilson wrote:
...
> Use wget, ftp, Opera or anything else you can think of, even Mozilla based 
> Konq seems to work better than Galleon or Mozilla itself.  That leaves me to 
> believe that it's in the wrappers around the rendering engine rather than 
> part of it.
...

not to pick nits in your otherwise correct guidance, but Konqueror is
not Mozilla based -- they wrote their own browser more or less from
scratch.

Oh, and http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to to you to :-)
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 08:21, Philip Webb wrote:
> 030725 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > Used Mozilla to download 9.2beta1 to *MY* choice of target disk
> > (yup, I finally have partitions available to test...);
> > yet after over 300MB EACH downloaded, cd1 bombed out for lack of disk space.
> 
> yes, we all trip over something occasionally (soothing look).
> 
> no-one with experience would use a browser to download big files.
> use Wget (there are alternatives, eg Curl, but i haven't used them):
> run it in background on a separate desktop
> with 'tail -f' to follow the log file; it restarts after any interruption.
> 
> also, assign a sensible size to your  /  partition, which includes  /tmp :
> i have  2 GB  assigned to  / , of which  1,2 GB  are currently available.

df, cat /etc/mtab and I bet you'll find that your /tmp is actually using
tmpfs -- meaning it's a ramdisk. Size of / means nothing. Check the list
archives for my name and "/tmp size" for more details.

Oh, and by the way: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Philip Webb
030725 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> Used Mozilla to download 9.2beta1 to *MY* choice of target disk
> (yup, I finally have partitions available to test...);
> yet after over 300MB EACH downloaded, cd1 bombed out for lack of disk space.

yes, we all trip over something occasionally (soothing look).

no-one with experience would use a browser to download big files.
use Wget (there are alternatives, eg Curl, but i haven't used them):
run it in background on a separate desktop
with 'tail -f' to follow the log file; it restarts after any interruption.

also, assign a sensible size to your  /  partition, which includes  /tmp :
i have  2 GB  assigned to  / , of which  1,2 GB  are currently available.

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Re: [expert] Shutdown/reboot for users

2003-07-26 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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I don't understand this...

I recently had to replace a hdd due to failure and reinstalled 9.1.  After 
initial bootup and login to KDE, when I was finished and clicked the logout 
button, I got the nice dragon combo box with 3 options in it:  logout, 
reboot, shutdown.  After this one time, this box no longer comes up and all I 
can do is logout.  Worse, after logout, I cannot select the reboot button in 
KDM unless I am root.  

I want to be able to shutdown/reboot the system myself, both from within a 
session and from KDM.  How do I get this ability back?  I am the only user on 
this box.

praedor
- -- 
I don't know that it is universal but it is not uncommon and I have to 
do what Alan Shoemaker posted as a solution to this FAQ every time I 
install:

"try this (i think it's what you want):

open the 'mandrake control center" and in 'boot' choose to
disable autologin
then

open the 'kde control panel' and in 'system', 'login manager',
open the 'convenience' tab and in 'administrator mode',
enable the 'automatic login' feature. :)
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[expert] Shutdown/reboot for users

2003-07-26 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I don't understand this...

I recently had to replace a hdd due to failure and reinstalled 9.1.  After 
initial bootup and login to KDE, when I was finished and clicked the logout 
button, I got the nice dragon combo box with 3 options in it:  logout, 
reboot, shutdown.  After this one time, this box no longer comes up and all I 
can do is logout.  Worse, after logout, I cannot select the reboot button in 
KDM unless I am root.  

I want to be able to shutdown/reboot the system myself, both from within a 
session and from KDM.  How do I get this ability back?  I am the only user on 
this box.

praedor
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I believe the problem is that until the download is complete, Mozilla stores 
the partially downloaded file in /tmp THEN transfers the finished download to 
the selected location.  If you have a large '/' directory and/or have setup 
/tmp on its own partition that is large enough, this isn't a problem but for 
me and many others we break our system down into more partitions than the 
default setup (good idea in general) and either don't make '/' unreasonably 
large, or more ridiculous, give /tmp its own partition that is larger than it 
should need to be.  

I have my system broken down into the following partitions:

/boot
/
/var
/tmp
/usr
/usr/local
/home

My /tmp is not monstrously huge, nor is my / or /var.  They are reasonably 
sized to cover virtually all contingencies except for the case with /tmp 
(apparently) with regard to ONE situation:  stupid apps that temporarily 
store partial/in process downloads in /tmp which is then transfered to a 
proper location AFTER download is complete.  My /tmp is 800 MB.  This should 
be more than large enough but given the aforementioned behavior, it can 
easily become too small by a gig or more (ridiculous!).

This problem comes up with winex (and wine?) too.  When you do a game install, 
wine loads the partial/in process install in /tmp and then transfers it to 
your selected final destination.  I would keep getting stymied by error 
messages popping up when I was trying to install certain (large) games 
telling me there wasn't enough disk space - but I have an 80 gig hdd and have 
LOTS of space available in the directory areas where I am wanting to install 
the game.  The problem turned out to be /tmp.  Of course, if you simply have 
a '/' instead of breaking /tmp out on its own AND your '/' is huge, then no 
problem.  

Thing is, if I select a download/install location, regardless of app, I want 
the download/install location to be the end-all be-all.  If the download is 
in process or terminated before completing, I want the partial download to 
reside in the selected download location.  If I am installing a game/app via 
wine, I want the [EMAIL PROTECTED] game/app to go entirely to the install location 
during 
the installation process and when it is complete.  It is ridiculous that one 
should have to have gigs of space just for /tmp to get past those FEW 
occassions when you are downloading a huge file (iso images, for instance) or 
installing a large game/app.  This isn't daily activity and having to set 
aside hdd space just to cover such contingencies is crazy and wasteful.

praedor

On Friday 25 July 2003 07:17 pm, charlie wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:01 am, Pierre Fortin wholly or partly mentioned :-
>
> > If there's a way to override this behaviour, it's not obvious and/or I'm
> > too pissed to find it...
>
> I am uncertain if I understand your problem Pierre but I am using
> Mozilla-1.3-1mdk and have done in :- Edit/Preferences/Downloads enabled
> Open download manager. Is that what you want? That way every time that I
> download anything I have choice of any partition and directory. Select it
> and leave it do its work.
>
> It is done manually of course, Download Manager does choose the last
> partition or directory that I downloaded into as default but just a quick
> click and another is selected. Give the file or image it any name that you
> choose with or without the file extension, thus allowing you to better find
> it if you really do forget where you placed it.
>
> HTH
>
> Charlie.

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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday July 25 2003 01:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A temp fix:  do a "mv /tmp /tmp-old and creat a new
> > /tmp that is a link to your REAL download location.
> > Once the download completes, delete the symlink and mv
> > /tmp-old to /tmp again.
>
> That's again why I like opera.
> It does not use /tmp at all but dls directly to the selected dl
> location.
> Charles

Konqueror also d/l's directly to a location you choose. I like 
to use d4x tho. Then I can d/l all 3 iso's simultaneously. 
Bandwidth can also be throttled, and it will resume broken d/l's.
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Re: [expert] Dumb URPMI question

2003-07-26 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday July 25 2003 02:47 pm, Miark wrote:
> I don't mess with Cooker, but I'm guessing it's as
> straight-forward as this:
>
> 1) Use urpmi.addmedia to add a Cooker urpmi source.
> 2) Do a: urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm --media
> cooker_source_name
>
> Miark

urpmi.setup (urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm) is probly the 
easiest way to add cooker sources, main and contrib. Tho I still 
use urpmi.addmedia on the CL.

I type 'cook' to update cooker,
alias cook='urpmi.update -f -a --wget && urpmi --no-verify-rpm 
--auto-select -v'  The -f -a forces the update of all enabled 
sources, no-verify-rpm is needed for rpms you don't have the key 
for.

Updates to cooker should be done "by hand", mostly since the 
mirrors are so often in a state of flux.  Use of --auto is not a 
good idea. That will often fail, and could even lead to urpmi 
uninstalling most of your system.  Many times it's necessary to try 
several mirrors as some files may be missing on some mirrors, or 
the hdlist is incorrect. SSM (edit-urpm-sources.pl) makes this 
quick an easy. Just check or uncheck the sources you want to 
dis/enable, ie, to switch mirrors.
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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi

Nice idea, did not think of that one, will give it a try...

Peter


On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:44, Michael Adams wrote:
> Bit late here. How about removing the sane RPM. Seems to work with lots of these 
> stuck proggies.
> 
> On 23 Jul 2003 10:10:15 -0700
> James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 07:29, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > > Hi Anne
> > > 
> > > Nice try, but after I delete it and then run xsane, it reappears as if
> > > by magic.
> > > 
> > > So where does it get it from, sending me nuts
> > > 
> > > Peter
> > 
> > Just a guess... Look for it in /root as well.  If it sees it in root it
> > could be "adding" it back to your user.
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 11:58 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > > > > Hi Annee
> > > > >
> > > > > No it is still there, must be a file somewhere...
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > In /home/peter/.sane/xsane there will probably be a .drc file that 
> > > > relates to your scanner.  Try adding .sav to the extension, so that 
> > > > you can get it back if you need it.
> > > > 
> > > > Anne
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-26 Thread charlie
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:01 am, Pierre Fortin wholly or partly mentioned :-
> If there's a way to override this behaviour, it's not obvious and/or I'm
> too pissed to find it...

I am uncertain if I understand your problem Pierre but I am using 
Mozilla-1.3-1mdk and have done in :- Edit/Preferences/Downloads enabled Open 
download manager. Is that what you want? That way every time that I download 
anything I have choice of any partition and directory. Select it and leave it 
do its work.

It is done manually of course, Download Manager does choose the last partition 
or directory that I downloaded into as default but just a quick click and 
another is selected. Give the file or image it any name that you choose with 
or without the file extension, thus allowing you to better find it if you 
really do forget where you placed it.

HTH

Charlie.

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