Re: [expert] Python Question

2003-08-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 05:36, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:15:22 -0700 James Sparenberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps it would be best offline dunno.  But would anyone know the
> > python equivalent to 
> > 
> > grep Number "$HOME/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" | awk -F= '{print $2;}'
> > 
> > For the life of me I'm stumped... but that's no great accomplishment. 
> > Sorry if it's a bit OT but I don't have any visible friends who know
> > python.  *grin*  
> > 
> > James
> 
> 
> No time to give the entire script, gotta hit the road...  but I might
> start my trek with this (of course, it's early, I'm rushed AND groggy...):
> 
> import fileinput
> for line in fileinput.input(["$HOME/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals"]):
>key,val = line.split("=")
>...
> 
> HTH

K it's a start time to play..
> 
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Re: [expert] Ifplugd not taking care of /etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.conffile ?

2003-08-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:05, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have some kind of a nasty problem.
> 
> I have a small server with 3 Lan ports - however - when I don't need the Local 
> LAN - I do also power-down the Switch. This is however a problem - as ifplugd 
> performs a Interface shutdown - and for some apps to work correctly - the 
> Interface needs an IP address.
> 
> So - I defined what Interfaces the ifplugd should take care of in 
> /etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.conf (eth2 - DHCP Cable Network), and want it to ignore 
> other ones.
> 
> No go... As soon as I unplug the eth0 cable - the device IP address is 
> removed. I have circumvented this issue by deactivating the ifplugd stuff to 
> be used completely (removing the if-statement in rc.d/init.d/networks using 
> ifplugd) - at least - everything is working as it should - but this should 
> not happen IMHO.
> 
> Anyone knows a better way ???
> 
> Cheers

Jeorg I run into this with a laptop and what I did was add this line to
my /etc/hosts file

127.0.0.1 jamlap.linuxpda.bizjamlap  


now if I either startup without a net connection or remove the
connection, I still keep things like proftpd for example working. (since
I sometimes run uml I need it working for testing.) It also helps with
reading mail in Evolution because although it will start without an IP
number it takes forever.

James

> 
>   Joerg


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Re: [expert] postfix & cyrus-imapd

2003-08-06 Thread Luca Olivetti
Norman Zhang wrote:
Hi,

After installing cyrus-imapd from the contrib, I was prompted to convert the
/var/lib/imap/mailboxes.db. But I get the following error not being able
convert db3 to flat. Would someone please tell me how can I fix this?
Why was /var/lib/imap/mailboxes.db there?
Did you have a previous version of cyrus-imapd manually installed (i.e 
not via rpm)?
If there's no useful data there, I suggest you remove the rpm, rm -rf 
/var/lib/imap, rm -rf /var/spool/imap and reinstall the rpm.
Otherwise, if you have previuosly compiled cyrus-imapd yourself *and* 
the data there is useful, it's possible that the database format for 
mailboxes.db is incompatible with the one used by the rpm. Use your 
previous binary install to dump it to a flat file (ctl_mboxlist -d), 
install the rpm and then recover it (ctl_mboxlist -u). You'll probably 
have to use the previous binary install to convert other files 
(cvt_cyrusdb) away from berkeley db.
It's also possible that simply running a db_upgrade (from the package 
db4-utils) on the affected file will solve the problem.

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Re: [expert] Procmail configuration sample

2003-08-06 Thread David Guntner
Stefano Pogliani grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> could someone help me posting a PROCMAIL sample for mails delivered 
> under /var/spool/mail/userrname ?
> 
> I am using IMAP folders (not courier-imap but the standard imap package 
> delivered with Mandrake) for storing the mails after reading them from 
> the /var/spool/mail/username. So the rules should move mails into these 
> Imap folders.

What specifically is it that you want done?  Procmail, by default, drops 
all mail that isn't directed somewhere else via a recipe into $DEFAULT, 
which on most systems is already /var/spool/mail/{username}.  So I, for 
one, don't understand what it is that you're wanting to do here :-)

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Re: [expert] Playing .ra files

2003-08-06 Thread David E. Fox
> The rpm puts the plugin in /usr/lib/xine-plugin/xine-plugin.so. Just
> copy this file to the mozilla plugin directory and you will have

John, that might just be a fantastic tip, but I can't seem to make
it work. I have a link which the rpm provided, in 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Clicking on a radio station now that
offers Real Media playback just causes mozilla to crash with
a sig 11. Do I need to do anything else? I found no plugins or
helpers in $HOME/.mozilla. Should there be?

Oh, and this is 9.2 cooker beta 1. :)


> John Drouhard

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Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)

2003-08-06 Thread David E. Fox
I followed John Brouhard's suggestion and checked edit/preferences
in mozilla. Now it does bring up xine, but has trouble with the
plugin rpm from brazil that I got from his other message.

Xine is telling me that it lacks a plugin for Real Audio. Specifically,
it doesn't know how to handle RealAudio COOK, whatever that is. It
points out that libcook.so.6 is not installed. I don't seem to have that
library here. I tried variants of 'urpmf /usr/lib/cook' - nothing.


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Re: [expert] k3b and supermount problem

2003-08-06 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
I used xcdroast, but k3b is so cute!! I cannot helping using it, even 
without supermount.

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, R N dev wrote:

> But xcdroast works well! so i think it's just a
> configuration parameters problem. I'm trying
> to discover the problem.
> 
> 
> --- Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Well, faced the same problem.  I gave up supermount.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Experience with LM and Dual-processor boxen?

2003-08-06 Thread Daryl Johnson
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2003 9:08 pm, D. R. Evans wrote:
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> Does anyone have any wisdom they would care to share in regards to running
> Mandrake on a dual processor box?
>
> I am thinking in particular of dual-Athlon boxes, and in particular
> particular (!) of buying a Cybertron dual-Athlon box, and would like to
> know if this would be a stupid thing to do.
>
>   Doc Evans


Well, I have a twin processor box running very happily using 1 Mhz Pentium 3 
on an Abit VP6.  I like it.

regards

Daryl

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Re: [expert] cdbakeoven first try bad

2003-08-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:45 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> Why are you not sticking with Gcombust?  Is there something it can't
> accomplish that you need done?
>
> LX

I'd have to second that - Gcombust works great on just about everything I've 
thrown at it, as well as any machine I've got it on. :-)

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Re: [expert] Languages and 9.1

2003-08-06 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

> Probable correct. Check the /etc/resolv.conf file to verify the
> entries for "nameserver".
>
That would have the nameserver for the lan, but surely he is looking
for the primary and secondary dns servers from his isp?
In /etc/resolv.conf I have no DNS for the local LAN (I have a 8139 eth 
card, but not used), so it's empty, and in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf I have the 
primary isp DNS (my isp has only one DNS...).

It doesn't matter what I use to create the connection, the wizard inside 
MDK control center or KPPP (I use KDE), the modem establish a connection 
but then nothing. Not only, if I create the connection with the wizard KPP 
doesn't even see it! I had to create a connection with KPP anyway.

It's pretty strange, internet should be something working out-of-the-box.
I tried to connect with Knoppix (KPPP) and internet works, even if I don't 
write any DNS (the ISP is able to send me one anyway).

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Re: [expert] SCO

2003-08-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:44 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:14, Miark wrote:
> > Red Hat has a million bucks or more to dump into this--Mandrake doesn't.
> > I'm content to have Mandrake focus on it's own problems and let the
> > big'uns duke it out.
> >
> > Miark
>
> What peeves me is that IBM bailed SUSE linux out of the hole with
> millions of dollars, and here Mandrake sat needing only a measly million
> or so, and got passed over.  Crazy.  Such a waste.
>
> I think Mandrake is superior to SUSE linux, and IBM could have saved
> alot of money by investing in them, plus got a better product to boot.
>
> LX

Does make one wonder. It would have been nice.

BTW, can't we just use Redhats newly formed Linux Legal Fund to help Mandrake 
become solvent? 

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Re: [expert] Experience with LM and Dual-processor boxen?

2003-08-06 Thread Mark Watts
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> Does anyone have any wisdom they would care to share in regards to running
> Mandrake on a dual processor box?
>
> I am thinking in particular of dual-Athlon boxes, and in particular
> particular (!) of buying a Cybertron dual-Athlon box, and would like to
> know if this would be a stupid thing to do.
>
>   Doc Evans

Oh yeah, you also get the nice warn fuzzy feeling of seeing thingslike this in 
dmesg:

Total of 4 processors activated (19123.40 BogoMIPS).

=)

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Re: [expert] SCO

2003-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
> What peeves me is that IBM bailed SUSE linux out of the hole with
> millions of dollars, and here Mandrake sat needing only a measly million
> or so, and got passed over.  Crazy.  Such a waste.
 
> I think Mandrake is superior to SUSE linux, and IBM could have saved
> alot of money by investing in them, plus got a better product to boot.

Prolly something to do with IBM's much stronger Deutsch than French
support base.
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[expert] start x windows from remote login

2003-08-06 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

What's the best way to "startx" using remote login?

Regards,
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Re: [expert] SCO

2003-08-06 Thread Eric Fernandez
Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

* Eric Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-06]:
 

BTW, can't we just use Redhats newly formed Linux Legal Fund to help
Mandrake become solvent? 
 

French law does not allow donations to a company (except the French
state however)
   

Wrong. See MandrakeSoft donation page dated April 19, 2001

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/donations/

wobo

These are donations given to Free projects supported by Mandrake: 
"Mandrake Linux Open Source developments", not to the Mandrakesoft 
company.These donations cannot help Mandrakesoft (the company) decrease 
its debt, which can only occur by selling products.

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Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00

2003-08-06 Thread J.C. Woods
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

For the copy of Mandrake you now have.  Wait...check that: it's $1399.00
for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above.
Who's ready to pay?

SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html

---Small slice of the article -

Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good
bath? 

The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth
of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15,
the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. 

This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO
CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding
out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use
of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear
- crystal clear. .
LX
 

Hey LX,

At about the same time as when they pry my gun from my cold, dead hand, 
they can have the money too

drjung

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[expert] Mounting Novell Netware

2003-08-06 Thread Albert E. Whale, CISSP
I have copied a Drive volume and I am preparing to mount it via the USB 
Port.  Diskdrake Correctly identifies the filesystem as a Novell Netware 
3.xx or 4.xx filesystem type.

However I cannot mount the disk.  the mount command returns with the 
following error:

mount: fs type 101 not supportted by kernel.

Any Ideas on how to get this supported so that I can read the drive?

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RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00

2003-08-06 Thread Lawson, Jim
Good point.

-Original Message-
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Ummm, 
for every CPU running 2.4 or above  Eh ?

A cpu cant run anything on its own, 


therefore no problem,

Just to prove the point , remove the ram, disconnect the hard drive,

now run linux


Richard

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:01, Andy Davidson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > For the copy of Mandrake you now have.  Wait...check that: it's $1399.00
> > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above.
> 
> Let's not generate our own FUD.  The $1399 is for a server, not a
> desktop.  The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199.
> 
> No, I'm not paying that, either.
> 
> andy



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Re: [expert] Languages and 9.1

2003-08-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2003 4:46 pm, Larry Sword wrote:
> Olaf Marzocchi wrote:
> > At 17.32 04/08/2003, you wrote:
> >> Olaf,
> >>
> >> Within KDE try:
> >>
> >> Kstart -> Configuration -> Other -> LocaleDrake and select the
> >> language you wish to use.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> > It worked, thanks!
> >
> > Now I'm fighting with the modem, it connects to the internet and
> > it's able to ping an address (I had only my public IP and the PPP
> > server IP, I tried both of them) but it's impossible to reach any
> > site, so it must be a DNS problem.
> >
> > Olaf
>
> Probable correct. Check the /etc/resolv.conf file to verify the
> entries for "nameserver".
>
That would have the nameserver for the lan, but surely he is looking 
for the primary and secondary dns servers from his isp?

Anne

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Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)

2003-08-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 05 Aug 2003 5:08 am, John Drouhard wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote:
> > I followed John Brouhard's suggestion and checked
> > edit/preferences in mozilla. Now it does bring up xine, but has
> > trouble with the plugin rpm from brazil that I got from his other
> > message.
> >
> > Xine is telling me that it lacks a plugin for Real Audio.
> > Specifically, it doesn't know how to handle RealAudio COOK,
> > whatever that is. It points out that libcook.so.6 is not
> > installed. I don't seem to have that library here. I tried
> > variants of 'urpmf /usr/lib/cook' - nothing.
>
> http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
>
> Go here and download the RealPlayer9 and w32codec rpms. You will
> get support for that.
>
> John Drouhard

John, do we need the latest xine?  I'm running 0.9.18.  I don't get 
any error reports, but I don't get sound either.  The url scrolls at 
the top of the control panel, but no sound appears.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Experience with LM and Dual-processor boxen?

2003-08-06 Thread Charlie
quoting D. R. Evans; Tuesday 05 August 2003 02:08 pm:
> Does anyone have any wisdom they would care to share in regards to running
> Mandrake on a dual processor box?
>
> I am thinking in particular of dual-Athlon boxes, and in particular
> particular (!) of buying a Cybertron dual-Athlon box, and would like to
> know if this would be a stupid thing to do.
>
>   Doc Evans

"What's up Doc";

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that.

I just assembled a dual Athlon box for a friend last week, and as far as I can 
tell the only difference between that and the single CPU boxes I usually deal 
with is a matter of degree. It seems to me that dual processors are capable 
of running more simultaneous processor intensive applications without errors. 
Compiling kernels/software, serving a LAN and pretending to be a workstation 
at the same time, "advanced" multi-media tasks, or whatever other 
applications are built/optimized to actually take advantage of dual 
processors. 

As far as "day to day use" differences you'd probably find that, for most 
people, a single extremely fast processor, and as much *low* memory as 
possible will run most things just as quickly. Anything beyond 1 GB of RAM 
seems to be slower, plus most of the motherboards available require ECC 
registered memory (more expensive and even slower) for anything above 1.5 GB.

Specs for the system I did last week;

(dual boot with Windows XP Pro, which he hasn't installed yet)
Asus A7M266-D
2X Athlon MP 2000+
1 GB (2x512 MB) Crucial PC-2700 DDR
80 GB Maxtor 
GForce 4 (MSI) 440 MX 64 MB video
Enermax 450 Watt PS
MSI 52x24x52 CD-RW

All GNU/Linux partitions excepting /boot are XFS.

There was no trouble with the Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo install, or any 
configuration of the system. To say the install was rather quick (compared to 
his PIII 500 system) may be a bit of an understatement. The biggest (only) 
problem was convincing the LinkSys router he uses to assign an IP address. 
NVidia's installer ran error free, both with the installed kernel (.13mdk 
enterprise) and the upgrade (.25mdk enterprise).

Unless you are doing a lot more than just desktop usage you'd probably be 
happier and save a few bucks with an Athlon XP 3000+. Or a P4 3.2 (:-P). I 
tried to talk my friend out of the dual CPU system for a couple of weeks 
before I finally caved and ordered the components. Should have spared myself 
the bother since it didn't work.

Seems he wanted bragging rights in his 'clique'. :-)

I'll probably go the dual CPU route too when I build my next box. RSN that is. 
I can't seem to convince myself it's a waste either. 

Charlie
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Re: [expert] Sis 7012 audio

2003-08-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 10:41, Olaf Marzocchi wrote:
> The stock MDK kernel shipped with 9.1 is not able to recognize it, I get no 
> sound.
> Does the latest kernel solve the problem?
> In that case, which file should I download from the ftp site?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Olaf

Olaf do you know what module it would use?  If you do I can check my box
running 25mdk and see if it's there/available.

James

> 
> MSI645Ultra mobo, 256DDR, Ge2MX400-64, P4 1.8 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00

2003-08-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 * Jonathan Shilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-06]:
> Andy Davidson wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >> For the copy of Mandrake you now have.  Wait...check that: it's
> >> $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above.
> > 
> > Let's not generate our own FUD.  The $1399 is for a server, not a
> > desktop.  The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199.
> > 
> > No, I'm not paying that, either.
> > 
> > andy
> Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am
> _NOT_ going to pay them. :P

First question that came to my mind after reading the news was:
"How on earth do they think they could ever make someone actually pay?"

See, they can ask whatever they want. Important is how they could put
enough weight on their demand.

I have been asking my boss for years about a raise in pay. He agreed
whenever *he* was ready.

wobo

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RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00

2003-08-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 14:01, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
> Andy Davidson wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >> For the copy of Mandrake you now have.  Wait...check that: it's
> >> $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above.
> > 
> > Let's not generate our own FUD.  The $1399 is for a server, not a
> > desktop.  The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199.
> > 
> > No, I'm not paying that, either.
> > 
> > andy
> Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am
> _NOT_ going to pay them. :P
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan G. Shilling
> Senior LAN Administrator

Hmmm.  Well, technically since I have a server and two workstations
running here now, that brings me up to $2797.00.  For my own part I'm
saving Lanman's sample response email from the newbie list in case they
try to extort any money from me.

As Dr Jung said, they can pry it from my cold dead fingers.  Other than
that and until then they can kiss my ass.


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Re: [expert] kt400 chipset nvidia drivers and ethernet

2003-08-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 08:29 pm, John Douhard wrote:
> I just recently purchased a Soyo Dragon Lite Kt400 motherboard with an
> Athlon XP 2600+. To my utter disappointment, the NVIDIA drivers don't
> work! When X usually starts up, it just goes into a black screen and
> does nothing more. I am trying to make it work with an NVIDIA GeForce4
> MX 440 which is an AGP 4x card. Does the kernel not have support for
> this chipset? (W2K works with the internet.)
>
They should work fine with that chipset.  I have a Dragon Ultra with the same 
chipset and a GeForce3 that works fine.  Which nvidia drivers are you using, 
the kernel matched rpm version or the nvidia .run installer.  If you are 
using the rpms, try the nvidia installer available from their website.  

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RE: [expert] SCO

2003-08-06 Thread Jonathan Shilling
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:05 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
>> 
>> Normally I go to Best Buy, or Walmart and purchase the Power Pack
>> edition, but I have been looking for Mandrake 9.1, and have _not_
>> been able to find it.  I can find SuSE 8.2, and Red Hat 9.0, but no
>> Mandrake, what gives? Hell I can even get Debian pretty easily.
>> 
>>> P
>> 
>> Jonathan G. Shilling
>> Senior LAN Administrator
> 
> Jonathan:
> I've seen previous Mandrake versions at CompUSA, but I haven't been
> there for some time so I don't know if they would have the current
> edition. (I sorta blew my hardware budget in May). It's been a while
> since I've seen Mandrake at any of the office supply/bookstore/mass
> market outlets, and then it was usually an older version.
> 
> I've been getting the PowerPack directly from Mandrake. Two reasons:
> First, it maximizes Mandrake's profit on the deal -- they don't get
> much on the in-store sales. Second, it shows up about five or six
> weeks after the release. 
> 
> -- cmg
Unfortunately I get impatient sometimes.  :)
Thank you for the lead though, I will try CompUSA (though I normally don't
shop there.)  If I can't get it there, I will go ahead and make the online
purchase.
I've been buying Mandrake distros from retail, since 6.2, I think it was.
Still have the CD's, but then I still have a CD of Red Hat ver 1.0 too.
:P

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[expert] Sis 7012 audio

2003-08-06 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
The stock MDK kernel shipped with 9.1 is not able to recognize it, I get no 
sound.
Does the latest kernel solve the problem?
In that case, which file should I download from the ftp site?

Thanks

Olaf

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Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00

2003-08-06 Thread charlie
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:59 am, Andy Davidson wholly or partly mentioned :-
> So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to
> pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it.  So which would I owe if I
> were going to pay? :-) ]
>
> andy

They will get money out of this. There are people out there who become 
frightened, pay when the threatening letter arrives with the appropriate 
letterhead, or the name of an organisation that is large enough to seem 
invincible. I hope I am wrong, but people are already starting to send money, 
and the longer this lasts there will be people having doubts and more will 
send money. We are conditioned that way. This is a cynical plan to raise 
money, a scam like any other. Once they stop and say that they are not 
carrying it any further [they dare not say they had no basis for the 
assertion] they will not return the money that is now residing in their 
coffers.

Here in Oz there was a saddler who had made a saddle for a pastoral company, 
but couldn't recall which company he made it for, so he sent a bill for its 
manufacture to the ten pastoral companies that he had on his books. He 
received back 9 cheques.

They will not care about litigation, because if they do not bring it on, no 
one else will, and if they do, it will be funded by those that are already 
sending money just to be sure and safe.

Charlie

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