Re: [expert] CUPS remote printing

2001-11-21 Thread Andreas J. Guelzow

Guillermo J. González Rodas wrote:

>Hello,
>
>   I want to know if somebody had printing remotely using CUPS. I've
>tried the "lp -d printer@host file" but I've got the message "server-
>error-service-unavailable".
>
>   I look at the documentation but I didn't find how can I make de
>printing service available.
>
>   What could be wrong in this situation?
>
>   I have installed MDK 8.0 with the distribution original kernel.
>
Remote printing works like a charm for us. We have a mixture of Mdk 7.2 
servers and Mdk 8.0 clients with two network printers (but we spool each 
of them through our servers anyways) and one epson inkjet again spooled 
through a workstation.

If you have a remote printer simply install it on one of your machines 
as a remote printer and then let that machine spool the traffic to that 
printer (or for that matter do that on all and have them fight for 
access fifo)

then for printing you can simply use the local name (lpr -Pfac) would 
spool my job on one of our servers and then forward it to our network 
printer. My instance of cups knows about fac since the server broadcasts 
that info.

Andreas


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Re: [expert] CUPS remote printing

2001-11-21 Thread Mark D'voo

run kups, it'll take you through a 30 second wizard to get printing to work

mark

On Wednesday 21 November 2001 18:59, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
>I want to know if somebody had printing remotely using CUPS. I've
> tried the "lp -d printer@host file" but I've got the message "server-
> error-service-unavailable".
>
>I look at the documentation but I didn't find how can I make de
> printing service available.
>
>What could be wrong in this situation?
>
>I have installed MDK 8.0 with the distribution original kernel.
>
>
>
> 
> Guillermo Gonzÿlez Rodas
> Centro Nacional de Computaciÿn
> Universidad Nacional de Asunciÿn
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> tel.: (595-21)585550
> fax.: (595-21)585619

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[expert] CUPS remote printing

2001-11-21 Thread Guillermo J. González Rodas

Hello,

   I want to know if somebody had printing remotely using CUPS. I've
tried the "lp -d printer@host file" but I've got the message "server-
error-service-unavailable".

   I look at the documentation but I didn't find how can I make de
printing service available.

   What could be wrong in this situation?

   I have installed MDK 8.0 with the distribution original kernel.




Guillermo González Rodas
Centro Nacional de Computación
Universidad Nacional de Asunción

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FWD:FWD:[Cooker] Re:[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread kk1

Why is that message going to cooker when I send it to expert?
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Subject: FWD:[Cooker] Re:[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:07:49 -0500

>went on the wrong list...
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>From: "kk1"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Cooker] Re:[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:24:01 -0500
>
>>From: "Sevatio"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:35:46 GMT
>>
>>>At this point, I just need to know one thing:
>>>
>>>Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If 
>>>so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application 
>>>did you use to setup your remote & local printers?
>>>
>>
>>Configure it with the web interface:
>>
>>#netscape http://localhost:631/
>>
>>
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FWD:[Cooker] Re:[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread kk1

went on the wrong list...
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Subject: [Cooker] Re:[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:24:01 -0500

>From: "Sevatio"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:35:46 GMT
>
>>At this point, I just need to know one thing:
>>
>>Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If 
>>so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application 
>>did you use to setup your remote & local printers?
>>
>
>Configure it with the web interface:
>
>#netscape http://localhost:631/
>
>
>=-=
>kk1
>
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Re: [expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread J. C. Woods

civileme wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday 14 August 2001 19:35, Sevatio wrote:
> > Okay, I'm willing to put more time into this seemingly hopeless cause of
> > getting Cups to work for remote printing.  This involves four machines
> > running LM8.0.  So far, I've tried Cups versions 1.1.6, 1.1.7-1.1, &
> > 1.1.9-5.  I can get local printing to work and I can get remote printers
> > to show up on Kups.  But print jobs just can't get through to the remote
> > printers.
> >
> > At this point, I just need to know one thing:
> >
> > Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If
> > so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application
> > did you use to setup your remote & local printers?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Sevatio
> 
> Only two things could be blocking you from what you describe.
> 
> I. the servers are configured not to allow the clients to access them
> 2. the servers are not notifying the clients of their hostnames in the broadcasts on
> port 631.
> 
> You obviously do not have a firewall blocking port 631 or then your printers would 
>not work
> locally.
> 
> We print remotely here at mandrakesoft all the time with ALL of those cups versions 
>and daemons.
> 
> One printer, a HP4050, is attached to server shadow and called printer6.  Since 
>shadow likes
> to sleep a lot, I defined a queue on my machine which connects to that printer and 
>calls it
> printer679, and another fellow made a queue which calls it printer6x.  Any user can 
>print to
> any one of those three printers and have it come out on that LaserJet on the 
>Engineering floor.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> lpadmin, kups, qtcups were all used to setup the queues.  xpp is used as the target 
>for the print
> command.

I sent in post earlier on this topic, and did not see your response.
Maybe you just missed it or you deemed it totally askew in its
orientation. Yes, I, too, have a cups server providing print services to
all my Linux workstation (windoze too but that a samba issue) 

"What you need to know is not what mandrakesoft or I have running but
what you must do to get your stuff running. So I will re-post earlier
posting in the hopes that it helps you. As I said earlier, it is a
beginning to the trouble-shooting you need to do. Do not give up the
fight and let that machine whip you

Okay, there are some things to check out. Did you edit your
/etc/cups/client.conf, /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, and your
/etc/cups/printers.conf files. Put a vi on those files, or any editor
app you like, and you will see they need some setup, mostly the name of
the server running the cups service. If you need to see what the
printers.conf should look like, just let me know.

This is usually the best place to start the troubleshooting"

drjung

and drjung again...

 
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Re: [expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread Sevatio



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 8/14/01, 11:48:01 PM, civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding Re: [expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?:


> On Tuesday 14 August 2001 19:35, Sevatio wrote:
> > Okay, I'm willing to put more time into this seemingly hopeless cause of
> > getting Cups to work for remote printing.  This involves four machines
> > running LM8.0.  So far, I've tried Cups versions 1.1.6, 1.1.7-1.1, &
> > 1.1.9-5.  I can get local printing to work and I can get remote printers
> > to show up on Kups.  But print jobs just can't get through to the remote
> > printers.
> >
> > At this point, I just need to know one thing:
> >
> > Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If
> > so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application
> > did you use to setup your remote & local printers?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Sevatio

> Only two things could be blocking you from what you describe.

> I. the servers are configured not to allow the clients to access them
> 2. the servers are not notifying the clients of their hostnames in the 
broadcasts on
> port 631.

> You obviously do not have a firewall blocking port 631 or then your 
printers would not work
> locally.

> We print remotely here at mandrakesoft all the time with ALL of those 
cups versions and daemons.

> One printer, a HP4050, is attached to server shadow and called printer6.  
Since shadow likes
> to sleep a lot, I defined a queue on my machine which connects to that 
printer and calls it
> printer679, and another fellow made a queue which calls it printer6x.  
Any user can print to
> any one of those three printers and have it come out on that LaserJet on 
the Engineering floor.

> Civileme

> lpadmin, kups, qtcups were all used to setup the queues.  xpp is used as 
the target for the print
> command.

Thanks for taking the time to let me know that this is possible.

1.) How are "you" configuring the servers to allow client access?  Are 
you editing the config files or are you using Kupsdconf?

2.) You said that it's possible that "the servers are not notifying the 
clients of their hostnames in the broadcasts on port 631".  -- Is this 
referred to as "polling" another server?

Thanks,
Sevatio



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Re: [expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread civileme

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 19:35, Sevatio wrote:
> Okay, I'm willing to put more time into this seemingly hopeless cause of
> getting Cups to work for remote printing.  This involves four machines
> running LM8.0.  So far, I've tried Cups versions 1.1.6, 1.1.7-1.1, &
> 1.1.9-5.  I can get local printing to work and I can get remote printers
> to show up on Kups.  But print jobs just can't get through to the remote
> printers.
>
> At this point, I just need to know one thing:
>
> Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If
> so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application
> did you use to setup your remote & local printers?
>
> TIA,
> Sevatio

Only two things could be blocking you from what you describe.

I. the servers are configured not to allow the clients to access them
2. the servers are not notifying the clients of their hostnames in the broadcasts on
port 631.

You obviously do not have a firewall blocking port 631 or then your printers would not 
work
locally.

We print remotely here at mandrakesoft all the time with ALL of those cups versions 
and daemons.

One printer, a HP4050, is attached to server shadow and called printer6.  Since shadow 
likes
to sleep a lot, I defined a queue on my machine which connects to that printer and 
calls it
printer679, and another fellow made a queue which calls it printer6x.  Any user can 
print to 
any one of those three printers and have it come out on that LaserJet on the 
Engineering floor.

Civileme

lpadmin, kups, qtcups were all used to setup the queues.  xpp is used as the target 
for the print
command.




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[expert] Cups Remote Printing - Does It Even Work?

2001-08-14 Thread Sevatio

Okay, I'm willing to put more time into this seemingly hopeless cause of 
getting Cups to work for remote printing.  This involves four machines 
running LM8.0.  So far, I've tried Cups versions 1.1.6, 1.1.7-1.1, & 
1.1.9-5.  I can get local printing to work and I can get remote printers 
to show up on Kups.  But print jobs just can't get through to the remote 
printers.  

At this point, I just need to know one thing:

Have any of you been able to get Cups to print on remote printers?  If 
so, what version Cupsd are you using?  Also, what particular application 
did you use to setup your remote & local printers?

TIA,
Sevatio



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