Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-25 Thread lorne
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 08:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 2:45 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:53, Anne Wilson wrote:
 I am using Gnome as my desktop.
 The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager
 super user mode..It did not ask me for my root password,
  
   snip
  
   James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root
   password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users?
   Could that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask
   him that's my problem.
  
   Anne
 
  Anne,
  File Manager Super User Mode doesn't ask and DOESN'T put you into
  su mode in Gnome, though it does both in KDE, at least on my 9.1
  installation. Dunno why. It's not a question of having logged in as
  root. I've made a note of this in one of the TWiki entries
  somewhere.
 
  DougB

 That's incredible!  There isn't much point in it, in that case.  I
 wonder if he would be prepared to stick to kde until he has things up
 and running and explore other dms later.  I'll suggest it to him.

hahah yup. I have another one for you. Make a super duper encrypted file 
system with a minimum of 16 characters. So when it is booted or mounted it 
requires a password. (naturally) Now,  open the control center and go into 
mount points and mount the d#@ thing. No password! I was pretty much blown 
away by that, but I guess they figure if you are root, you should be able to 
mount anything. Kind of defeats the whole purpose in my mind. :)

 Anne


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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-25 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:01 pm, many eyes noted that Anne Wilson wrote:
 A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to get
 himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for now.

 I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions
 problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?

 Anne

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 Subject: arrrgghhh
 Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm
 From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am using Gnome as my desktop.
 The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user
 mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find nothing
  in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose however open my
  home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while longer hours I think.
  Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries about divorce lol.

 ---
Anne,
This might be off the mark, never having used gnome, but I wonder what error 
messages Philip gets? In /tmp there will be some files that work gnome just 
as they work KDE. They should belong to user, and you can either chmod them 
or you can chown them. Having had trouble like this in Slackware that didn't 
allow me to log into the desktop and X as user. but roots were owned 
correctly. I discovered the best was was to chown them and they stayed 
chowned. The permissions were changed on each login with chmod, and had to be 
either rechmod or deleted, every time. That was Slackware though.

Mandrake might get it right if deleted as root and then enter as user so that 
they can be rewritten. They may stick after reboot also?

HTH
Charlie.
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[expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to get 
himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for now.

I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions 
problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?

Anne

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Subject: arrrgghhh
Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm
From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am using Gnome as my desktop.
The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user
mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find nothing
 in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose however open my
 home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while longer hours I think.
 Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries about divorce lol.

---

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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 01:01, Anne Wilson wrote:
 A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to get 
 himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for now.
 
 I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions 
 problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?
 
 Anne
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 
 Subject: arrrgghhh
 Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm
 From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am using Gnome as my desktop.
 The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user
 mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find nothing
  in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose however open my
  home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while longer hours I think.
  Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries about divorce lol.
 
 ---

gtkam (if that's what he's asking about) is chmod 755 root.root on my
box.  Perhaps it needs to be chmod'd to 755?  However I don't know what
the it is that he doesn't own.

James



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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 9:59 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 01:01, Anne Wilson wrote:
  A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to
  get himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for
  now.
 
  I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions
  problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?
 
  Anne
 
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  Subject: arrrgghhh
  Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm
  From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I am using Gnome as my desktop.
  The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super
  user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find
  nothing in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose
  however open my home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while
  longer hours I think. Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries
  about divorce lol.
 
  ---

 gtkam (if that's what he's asking about) is chmod 755 root.root on
 my box.  Perhaps it needs to be chmod'd to 755?  However I don't
 know what the it is that he doesn't own.

 James

James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root 
password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users?  Could 
that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask him that's 
my problem.

Anne
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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Anne Wilson schrieb am Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:53:42 +0100:

 James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root 
 password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users?  Could 
 that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask him that's 
 my problem.

That was the first thing that came to my mind when I read the mail. Or
that he had logged in as root. Some people do that out of convenience
and don't think that it may cause such problems (or may not).

wobo

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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Miark
Anne,

Here are some questions that come to mind:

* Who did he log in as? root or a user? 
* Did he set a root password during install?
* The program refers to gtcam or Gnome?
* Is he sure gtcam is installed?
* What directory was he looking in?
* What file manager was he using?
* What view was he using in the file manager? Icons? Details?

Miark


On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:01:12 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to get 
 himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for now.
 
 I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions 
 problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?
 
 Anne
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 I am using Gnome as my desktop.
 The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user
 mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find nothing
  in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose however open my
  home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while longer hours I think.
  Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries about divorce lol.

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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 1:25 pm, Miark wrote:
 Anne,

 Here are some questions that come to mind:

 * Who did he log in as? root or a user?
 * Did he set a root password during install?
 * The program refers to gtcam or Gnome?
 * Is he sure gtcam is installed?
 * What directory was he looking in?
 * What file manager was he using?
 * What view was he using in the file manager? Icons? Details?

Thanks, Miark.  A good start.  I have a gut feeling that the problem 
is in the login - possibly no user set up.  I'll question that one.  
As for the camera problem, we have little to go on, so I'll tackle 
that as a separate list of questions.

He said he was using gnome as his dm, so he may be using a fm that I'm 
unfamiliar with.  I'll see what I can get out of him.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Anne
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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:53, Anne Wilson wrote:

  
   I am using Gnome as my desktop.
   The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super
   user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, 

 snip
 
 James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root 
 password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users?  Could 
 that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask him that's 
 my problem.
 
 Anne

Anne,
File Manager Super User Mode doesn't ask and DOESN'T put you into su
mode in Gnome, though it does both in KDE, at least on my 9.1
installation. Dunno why. It's not a question of having logged in as
root. I've made a note of this in one of the TWiki entries somewhere.

DougB


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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 2:45 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:53, Anne Wilson wrote:
I am using Gnome as my desktop.
The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager
super user mode..It did not ask me for my root password,
 
  snip
 
  James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root
  password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users? 
  Could that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask
  him that's my problem.
 
  Anne

 Anne,
 File Manager Super User Mode doesn't ask and DOESN'T put you into
 su mode in Gnome, though it does both in KDE, at least on my 9.1
 installation. Dunno why. It's not a question of having logged in as
 root. I've made a note of this in one of the TWiki entries
 somewhere.

 DougB

That's incredible!  There isn't much point in it, in that case.  I 
wonder if he would be prepared to stick to kde until he has things up 
and running and explore other dms later.  I'll suggest it to him.

Anne
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Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh

2003-09-24 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 04:53, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 9:59 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 01:01, Anne Wilson wrote:
   A newbie has contacted me for help.  So far he has not managed to
   get himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for
   now.
  
   I'm puzzled about his current problem.  Obviously a permissions
   problem, but I don't know what questions to ask.  Help, anyone?
  
   Anne

if he's running at security level 1 then that would explain it right
there.

James

  
   --  Forwarded Message  --
  
   Subject: arrrgghhh
   Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm
   From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   I am using Gnome as my desktop.
   The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super
   user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find
   nothing in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose
   however open my home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while
   longer hours I think. Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries
   about divorce lol.
  
   ---
 
  gtkam (if that's what he's asking about) is chmod 755 root.root on
  my box.  Perhaps it needs to be chmod'd to 755?  However I don't
  know what the it is that he doesn't own.
 
  James
 
 James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root 
 password.  Would this happen if he hadn't created any users?  Could 
 that be the real problem?  It's trying to know what to ask him that's 
 my problem.
 
 Anne


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