Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
One thing I forgot to mention these are OSS modules not Alsa. I've never had alsa working on this laptop... supermount... doesn't like this laptops cd/dvd drive. But on 4 other desktops with cd's that get use after install I've not had a lick of problems. James On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 06:36, Praedor Tempus wrote: > On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > >I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff > > before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun > > intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger "suspend" > > partition. I lost sound during one of the installs myself for some odd > > reason. Another had sound but in MCC sound card had no info. Now I > > keep these two lines from modules.conf handy. > > > > alias sound-slot-0 maestro > > above snd-es1968 snd-pcm-oss > > > > Now Mine is a compaq not an IBM but it does have the same sound > > card. I'd also recommend going to IBM's site as they have some pretty > > extensive docs on Linux on the ThinkPad. > [...] > > Thanks for the info but... > > I just went back to a custom 2.4.18-6mdk kernel and sound works again just > fine. Since the hardware is oldish and never changes, there is obviously a > problem in the kernel and drivers (2.4.19). I also have a fully functional > supermount again and a functioning parallel port Zip drive (2.4.19 couldn't > operate it either). > > Trying to build the 2.4.19 kernel with the proper sound drivers built into the > kernel instead of produced as modules failed miserably. The kernel refuses > to build when I try it. I've gone back to a recompiled 2.4.18 kernel with > the same drivers built as modules and all is well. > > I would say that 2.4.19 is the problem, not my hardware (which is invariant). -- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There should be no problems at all ESPECIALLY if you build your own 2.4.18 kernel. You will still have the 2.4.19 kernel there is you goof up 2.4.18 so you can try again. As it is you can select from a set of kernels for install during installation anyway. What you will get is a fully working supermount, fully working sound, and none of the other problems that came with the new "improved" 2.4.19 kernel. You will occassional run into a new "stable" kernel that's royally dorked up in several ways (2.4.19 is the latest), so it is nice to be able to go back to a perfectly fine working kernel like 2.4.18, in this case. I've had to do this periodically in the past, primarily due to supermount problems. I will not run a kernel that wont give me supermount. It is indispensible for a number of things, not the least is its complete convenience - besides, Linus has made it known that he likes it and ultimately intends to make it part of the kernel rather than have it forever as an extraneous patch. praedor On Friday 15 November 2002 11:59 am, Franki wrote: > Are there any other probs that come about loading a 2.4.18 kernel in > mdk9.0?? > > if there isn't, I might try compiling one myself.. I miss supermount..:-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:praedor@;lapdog.ravenhome.net]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus > Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 10:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound > > On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > >I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff > > before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun > > intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger "suspend" [...] - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91WHF1i/6R1B/Yh0RAjuxAJ9jeSkou27yY/VcIyUO1OGpd5fMLQCeKQDc lpwH+3igXuRHbhSF5PVh+ec= =/C++ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
Are there any other probs that come about loading a 2.4.18 kernel in mdk9.0?? if there isn't, I might try compiling one myself.. I miss supermount..:-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:praedor@;lapdog.ravenhome.net]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: >I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff > before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun > intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger "suspend" > partition. I lost sound during one of the installs myself for some odd > reason. Another had sound but in MCC sound card had no info. Now I > keep these two lines from modules.conf handy. > > alias sound-slot-0 maestro > above snd-es1968 snd-pcm-oss > > Now Mine is a compaq not an IBM but it does have the same sound > card. I'd also recommend going to IBM's site as they have some pretty > extensive docs on Linux on the ThinkPad. [...] Thanks for the info but... I just went back to a custom 2.4.18-6mdk kernel and sound works again just fine. Since the hardware is oldish and never changes, there is obviously a problem in the kernel and drivers (2.4.19). I also have a fully functional supermount again and a functioning parallel port Zip drive (2.4.19 couldn't operate it either). Trying to build the 2.4.19 kernel with the proper sound drivers built into the kernel instead of produced as modules failed miserably. The kernel refuses to build when I try it. I've gone back to a recompiled 2.4.18 kernel with the same drivers built as modules and all is well. I would say that 2.4.19 is the problem, not my hardware (which is invariant). -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - Friedrich Nietzsche. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: >I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff > before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun > intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger "suspend" > partition. I lost sound during one of the installs myself for some odd > reason. Another had sound but in MCC sound card had no info. Now I > keep these two lines from modules.conf handy. > > alias sound-slot-0 maestro > above snd-es1968 snd-pcm-oss > > Now Mine is a compaq not an IBM but it does have the same sound > card. I'd also recommend going to IBM's site as they have some pretty > extensive docs on Linux on the ThinkPad. [...] Thanks for the info but... I just went back to a custom 2.4.18-6mdk kernel and sound works again just fine. Since the hardware is oldish and never changes, there is obviously a problem in the kernel and drivers (2.4.19). I also have a fully functional supermount again and a functioning parallel port Zip drive (2.4.19 couldn't operate it either). Trying to build the 2.4.19 kernel with the proper sound drivers built into the kernel instead of produced as modules failed miserably. The kernel refuses to build when I try it. I've gone back to a recompiled 2.4.18 kernel with the same drivers built as modules and all is well. I would say that 2.4.19 is the problem, not my hardware (which is invariant). -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - Friedrich Nietzsche. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
Pradeor, I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger "suspend" partition. I lost sound during one of the installs myself for some odd reason. Another had sound but in MCC sound card had no info. Now I keep these two lines from modules.conf handy. alias sound-slot-0 maestro above snd-es1968 snd-pcm-oss Now Mine is a compaq not an IBM but it does have the same sound card. I'd also recommend going to IBM's site as they have some pretty extensive docs on Linux on the ThinkPad. James PS ... to anyone who uses pre DDR ram on their laptop or desktop. check out the prices on RAM . I found a high of $112.00 US for ram on this puppy (Compaq M700) and was able to buy it for $50.00 Pre DDR ram is at rock bottom again so it's a good time to max out. On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 10:10, Praedor Tempus wrote: > I have an IBM Thinkpad with an ESS Solo1 sound "card". It has worked fine > with most previous Mandrake kernels up to 2.4.18. I recently built and > installed the Mandrake 2.4.19 kernel (with the correct sound settings > selected in xconfig) and find it has totally croaked my sound. > > There is no /dev/dsp, no sound-slot-0, no sound-card-0, nothing. If I try to > run DrakConf and then run the harddrake to resetup the sound card, it fails > because it cannot find sound-slot-0. I have done a system search and > naturally this module doesn't exist. > > I have always used Alsa sound on my thinkpad and it has worked. Now that alsa > has been blended into the kernel, it no longer works. What does it take to > get sound working? > > There are no sound modules getting loaded at all during bootup. "Running > lspci -v" produces this for my soundcard > : > 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive > (rev 02) > Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI]: Unknown device 1002 > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5 > I/O ports at 7800 [size=64] > I/O ports at 7850 [size=16] > I/O ports at 7870 [size=16] > I/O ports at 7890 [size=4] > I/O ports at 78a4 [size=4] > Capabilities: > > Yup, there it is. It's just that Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 doesn't see it. > > What arcane trick is now necessary to get sound working again? > > praedor > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
On Thursday 14 November 2002 01:33 pm, Miark wrote: > I have the same problem with the ESS sound in my CTX laptop. It worked fine > in previous versions of Mandrake, but it's dead in 9.0. In the past I've > used sndconfig to get it working. In 9.0 sndconfig just hangs. > > What happens when you try sndconfig? I tried building the 2.4.19 mandrake kernel with the appropriate sound drivers compiled into the kernel - it fails. 2.4.19 is broken in a number of ways. If you want sound, I suggest you do what I am doing - go back to a proper kernel, a functional kernel - and go back to 2.4.18. Supermount worked properly, sound worked properly, etc. None of the garbage that one must tolerate with the 2.4.19 kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
Hey, guess what! I tried it again, and this time sndconfig worked! In 8.2, sndconfig worked instantaneously. In 9.0 it takes a long time. I guess what I did before was kill sndconfig before it had a chance to finish. This time I just left it, and when I came back 15 minutes later, it found the ESS card. Sucks that it took so long, but at least it works. Miark On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:28:00 -0500 Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 14 November 2002 01:33 pm, Miark wrote: > > I have the same problem with the ESS sound in my CTX laptop. It worked fine > > in previous versions of Mandrake, but it's dead in 9.0. In the past I've > > used sndconfig to get it working. In 9.0 sndconfig just hangs. > > > > What happens when you try sndconfig? > > I'm currently rebuilding the frickin kernel again, this time with the frickin > drivers (alsa and the solo 1 driver) built into the frickin kernel - no > modules - so I cannot test it yet. After the build and reboot, I'll give > sounddrake another shot and when it fails, I'll try sndconfig and let you > know that my system locks up. > > praedor > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
On Thursday 14 November 2002 01:33 pm, Miark wrote: > I have the same problem with the ESS sound in my CTX laptop. It worked fine > in previous versions of Mandrake, but it's dead in 9.0. In the past I've > used sndconfig to get it working. In 9.0 sndconfig just hangs. > > What happens when you try sndconfig? I'm currently rebuilding the frickin kernel again, this time with the frickin drivers (alsa and the solo 1 driver) built into the frickin kernel - no modules - so I cannot test it yet. After the build and reboot, I'll give sounddrake another shot and when it fails, I'll try sndconfig and let you know that my system locks up. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
I have the same problem with the ESS sound in my CTX laptop. It worked fine in previous versions of Mandrake, but it's dead in 9.0. In the past I've used sndconfig to get it working. In 9.0 sndconfig just hangs. What happens when you try sndconfig? Miark On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:10:53 -0500 Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an IBM Thinkpad with an ESS Solo1 sound "card". It has worked fine > with most previous Mandrake kernels up to 2.4.18. I recently built and > installed the Mandrake 2.4.19 kernel (with the correct sound settings > selected in xconfig) and find it has totally croaked my sound. > > There is no /dev/dsp, no sound-slot-0, no sound-card-0, nothing. If I try to > run DrakConf and then run the harddrake to resetup the sound card, it fails > because it cannot find sound-slot-0. I have done a system search and > naturally this module doesn't exist. > > I have always used Alsa sound on my thinkpad and it has worked. Now that alsa > has been blended into the kernel, it no longer works. What does it take to > get sound working? > > There are no sound modules getting loaded at all during bootup. "Running > lspci -v" produces this for my soundcard > : > 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive > (rev 02) > Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI]: Unknown device 1002 > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5 > I/O ports at 7800 [size=64] > I/O ports at 7850 [size=16] > I/O ports at 7870 [size=16] > I/O ports at 7890 [size=4] > I/O ports at 78a4 [size=4] > Capabilities: > > Yup, there it is. It's just that Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 doesn't see it. > > What arcane trick is now necessary to get sound working again? > > praedor > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound
I have an IBM Thinkpad with an ESS Solo1 sound "card". It has worked fine with most previous Mandrake kernels up to 2.4.18. I recently built and installed the Mandrake 2.4.19 kernel (with the correct sound settings selected in xconfig) and find it has totally croaked my sound. There is no /dev/dsp, no sound-slot-0, no sound-card-0, nothing. If I try to run DrakConf and then run the harddrake to resetup the sound card, it fails because it cannot find sound-slot-0. I have done a system search and naturally this module doesn't exist. I have always used Alsa sound on my thinkpad and it has worked. Now that alsa has been blended into the kernel, it no longer works. What does it take to get sound working? There are no sound modules getting loaded at all during bootup. "Running lspci -v" produces this for my soundcard : 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 02) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI]: Unknown device 1002 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 7800 [size=64] I/O ports at 7850 [size=16] I/O ports at 7870 [size=16] I/O ports at 7890 [size=4] I/O ports at 78a4 [size=4] Capabilities: Yup, there it is. It's just that Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 doesn't see it. What arcane trick is now necessary to get sound working again? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
